Keskustelujen arkisto

SHAUN and EVERYONE:

>The works of Delbo and Akin in Marvel's
>late series about alien robots certainly doesn't come across as being
>"cartoony", and I'm actually kind of curious to see them try their hands
>at Disney material.

The people I'D like to see try their hands at the ducks are Simon Bisley,
Carlos Ezquerra, S.B. Davis, Colin MacNeil, Siku, Clint Langley and Steve
Sampson. I've only seen these artists contribute to Judge Dredd comics
(though I know some - if not all - of them do other work too), and would
find it really interesting to see the results.....Of course, it wouldn't
exactly addhere to the Disney standard, but it sure would be
interesting....Oh, and I'm sure I'll think of lots of other artists as soon
as I've sent this...

EVEN FLOOD (? (just kidding, just kidding!! ;)):

>Can you give me the adress Of GOSH Comics? I have been several times
>in London, and the only Disney comics I have ever found
>there was in Arabic! (in a litte kiosk in Queensway, for those of
>perverse quriosity)
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That's me alright ;)

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LUNA STORTA (re: PAPERINIK!)

I realize there are those on the list who disapprove of Disney characters as
costumed crimefighters, no matter what, but for those of you who don't
have such a strong bias, especially those who have access to non-USA
Disney comics which feature such types, what is your opinion? From what
I've read here concerning the "New Adventures of Super-Donald" the
nearly unanimous opinion is that these tales were not very good, despite
the quality paper, ink and artwork. How about the original Super-Donald
tales? What do you think of the costumed versions of Fethry, Goofy,
Gilbert and possibly even Pete and Mickey?

In the USA we have seen only two Mickey Mouse tales of which I am
aware "The Red Wasp Mystery" (WDC&S #317 -319) and "Plastic
Mickey" (WDC&S #608), though someone once said Mickey ate Goofy's
magic goober and gained similar abilities (what book?). I do have
several comics in my collection where everyone from Clarabelle, $crooge
to Scamp have eaten goobers from Goofy's garden, but these are all
one-shots and, fortunately, very infrequent (not at all recently since there
is no longer a Super Goof title and when a story appears it is a reprint).
The only other tales are the "Mighty Duck"/"Super Snooper" tales
recently collected in Gladstone's Walt Disney Giant # 3 (1/96). That's
pretty much it as far as I know. Much of the lore involving suped-up
Disney characters are printed outside of the USA. The one exception,
of course, is "DarkWing Duck" or Gizmoduck from "DuckTales," but
those are very rare and only appear in Disney Adventures Magazine
which is not a real popular magazine among those who want these
tales.

STEVEN ROWE (re: MOUSEWORKS):

This is extremely good new, though January 1999 is so far away!
I wonder if there are any preliminary talks concerning a NEW
Mickey Mouse comic to be simultaneously launched with the new
animated series?

For those interested in more news, I found this elsewhere on
the Net:

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Below are exceprts from E! News announcing that Mickey
is going back to work in a cartoon series. Not bad
for someone that's 69 y/o. :-)

[beging excerpts] Disney announced Tuesday that work will
begin on a new Mickey Mouse animated TV series--the first to
star the vaunted Mousketeer leader since the 1950s. MouseWorks
is set to debut in January 1999. Still undecided is exactly where
the weekly show will air: It'll be either cable's Disney Channel
or the Disney-owned ABC network--maybe both, according to
one report. Look for longtime gal-pal Minnie Mouse to costar,
as well as the Old School likes of Donald Duck, Goofy and
Pluto.

"This is more than a return to our company's root--it's the
restoration of a staple of cartoon entertainment for people
around the globe," company vice chairman Roy E. Disney
said, in a statement.

In Wednesday's Daily Variety, Disney promised that the
Mick and friends will be going back to their roots, as well. "
The characters will revert to the look they had in the '30s, '40s,
'50s," he told the paper. "We will go back to the old way of
animating. They will be all hand-drawn and hand-painted,
with the backgrounds as well."

Roy Disney is the first to concede that Mickey has become more
of a "corporate figure" rather than a "cartoon figure" in recent
years. As the company's empire expanded in the 1950s into
theme parks, TV shows, lunch boxes and a million other
assorted sundries, the Mouse began to retreat from the
'toon medium that launched his career. [end quote]

Welcome back Mickey!!
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It sounds as though they plan a type of renaissance for Mickey
as he makes his way back into the daily life of common folks.
I looked forward to the new Mickey Mouse series, but I'm not
certain if I wanted him to be "retro." Maybe if the tales are on
the par with the sense of adventure Floyd Gottfredson and others
imbued in Mickey and company during those retro times the
show will be great. And if it is, so with the new comicbooks!!

-Rich (xephyr)
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html

I now this is off-topic, but I think that Anna-Maijas idea about
sending Christmas cards are good. So if anyone wants to give their
real adress please mail me on (Email removed) Subject: X-mas.

Thomas Andersen

In my previous message I reported on Rosa's Oslo visit, which naturally
focusses on the new book, the 272 page hardcover version of "Uncle Scrooge:
His Life and Times". This book is now being published in Norway, Denmark,
Sweden, Finland, Italy, Hungary -- I guess (but do not know) that it will be
published in other countries as well. (Please report to the list about other
editions. Is the German edition simply the already existing albums "collected
together", including the additional "Kapittel Null" album? What about Austria,
Slovenia, Spain, Iceland, the Faeroe Island [where the CB Library in Color
series is being published, I understand]?)

We might and should discuss other aspects of this book on this list later. At
the moment I feel compelled to point out one non-literary aspect. This will be
a bestseller, with initial printing runs of perhaps 20,000 copies in each of
the Scandinavian countries alone. Very very few books sell that well in
Scandinavia. And each costs about 45$. Normally this would have been enough to
make the author of the book a wealthy person; as a start, figure out what
say ten percent of 45$ times 80,000 would amount to.

But this is not a normal situation; it is my understanding that due to Disney
rules (and Egmont interpretations thereof?), Rosa is getting a royalty of
precisely _zero percent_ here. Don (and other Disney artists) gets paid a
certain sum per page, once and for all, regardless of the number of times it
is reprinted and the number of languages it is being translated to, etc. I find
this unfair. And perhaps particularly so in view of the fact that Rosa uses a
lot of time and efforts to assist the various publishing houses throughout
Europe to sell these books, on which he earns nothing, without real
compensation for loss of his own working time...

Perhaps I'm sticking my neck too far out here. My writing this has not at all
been caused by any bitter complaining on Rosa's side (he seems to accept the
terms given him, loyally and patiently); perhaps there are other aspects I do
no know about; I do understand and appreciate the reasons behind Disney
regulations and licensing and so on; I know that Rosa that would never be able
to sell 100,000 books with non-Disney material; and I do respect and value the
work and efforts of publishing companies. But, based on what I understand about
the situation, I feel that book author Rosa is treated unnecessarily unfairly
and cheaply.

Nils Lid Hjort

NILS wrote:
>Rosa uses a
>lot of time and efforts to assist the various publishing houses throughout
>Europe to sell these books, on which he earns nothing, without real
>compensation for loss of his own working time...

I think Don said that (this time) he *was* paid a compensation for
the loss of his working time.

--Harry.

Christer and Njaal:
Thank you for that extra information it would
have been helpful, if I only hadn't missed my train.
Oh well, I'll try again tomorrow

Concerning the new Paperinik or Fantonald:
I had looked at those magazines at the store, but
I never bought one since they looked awful to me.
But since someone on this list said they liked
them I got issue 9 today, and I must say I'm sorry
I missed the previous ones, because I liked it a lot.

IMHO it reminded me a lot about European comics like Spirit
(or Spirou I think is the original name), in the way the
story was told. It had a nice blend of humor and action.
And I disagree a bit with those who say that Fantonald
has been turned in to a superhero. He didn't seem to have
any superpowers, just some useful gizmos as before.
And hasn't he always been sort of a "good guy" (or duck).
He may have broken a few laws, but that was just his way
of "evening the score" and getting back at what was wrong
in society.

The art (and his companions) was the only really new thing
about the character, IMHO naturally. That (the art I mean)
was what I didn't like about the "new" Paperinik.
The colors really didn't appeal to me. It would
have been more fun if these new stories had the art and
coloring they had some years ago in the "Donald Pocket",
where Paperinik had a gumchewing friend, who I can't
remember the name of. That art I really liked.

Well, since I've already posted a few times I guess it's
about time I introduced myself (So you can skip the rest
of this post):
My name: Claus Ola Margon Havik (With a little cirkel above
the a in Havik)
Age: 20 years old
Birthplace: Bergen (the nr.2 city in Norway)
Grew up in: Sarpsborg (the nr.11 city in Norway)
Live in: Rena (which only the locals would call a city)
Doing: Studying computer science

Well I've been reading comics since as long as I can
remember, well I only looked at the pictures before
I learned how to read. My older siblings used to by
a lot of comics like Donald Duck, Mickey Mouse, Spiderman
,Tintin, The Hulk and several others. And when I got older
I started to by them myself (because my siblings only bought
it once in a while, not every new issue).

In the late eighties I eventually stopped buying Disney
comics because I felt they were getting pretty bad,
(accept from hardcover books with CB stories)
instead I bought comics like Punisher and The Phantom.
But one day in 91 I had a some change left, and decided
to try a issue of the weekly Donald Duck, and I haven't
stopped buying them since. (After looking at the Rosa Index
at Harry's pages I wonder if it wasn't a Don Rosa story
in that issue). Besides from DD i also like Spirou, Tintin
and Beatle Baily (Isn't that Billy's real name).

Well, enough about me.

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>To: (Email removed)
>From: (Email removed) (Jarkko Lehtinen)
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>I just Read the Life and Time Scrooge McDuck (or something like that. My
English isn't so good). There are one thing i don't get. Some his story said
that Scrooge is coming to Duckburg in 1947. But in the last part of his
book, hi said then Donald meet Scrooge. So what the truth.
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>ps. Sorry my very bad english
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