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Arthur:

>I visited my comic-shop again yesterday, after six months, and to
>my great disappointment there were no new Disney comics for me. :-(
>While the guy there had told me that I would still get them because
>they had a different distributor than Diamond.

Would you, by any chance, be able to find out who this "different
distributor" is?

Tarjei:

Did you get your catalog yet?

Sven:

>Does this mean, that I (here in Germany) can still get my Disney comics
>via a direct subscription from Gladstone?

It means exactly that.

Gaute:

>I thought this was old news...Greger Nassen shows how in "Terror of the
>river" >someone (perhaps the art director knows who) has widened the tiers
>to absorb the >void at the bottom...

This is old news, going back to the second album Gladstone ever published.
"Terror..." was presented in its original form in our original Carl Barks
Library, which was designed for collectors, but that second color album was
intended for a general audience. By the time we reprinted it in the CBL in
Color album series, we were back to aiming for the collector market, so we
returned to the original.

>Also in the D & M 25 reprint of "This is your life DD", Nassen points
>out that in the eyes of the ducks are drawn a white sector, the Barks
>characteristics, and not the usual Strobl "hypnotic" eyes. Why, art
>director?

The little white slivers in the pupils - are regarded by certain Disney
experts as *the way* to indicate just what a character is looking at. And
these experts will insist that if they slivers aren't present, they should
be added.

>BTW, in Norway a company was sued by an artist because they made an
>addition to a logo he had made. The artist claimed they violated the
>original art. I should think the same applies here...

The artist believes his rights have been violated. Since he's taken the
matter to court, the company for which he did the logo clearly believes it
was within its rights to make the contested addition. This is knows as a
legal dispute. If it is unresolved, it establishes nothing that can apply
to anything.

>I'm not sure if you are more comfertable with the word tampering by now?

I'm not comfortable with it. I never have been. It's very negative, and
implies a certain malicious intent, which has never been a motivation in
any alterations we've ever made.

>Perhaps "refine" or "enhance" or words you would have chosen.

No, I'd choose those terms over "butcher."

>Anyway you put it; I was disapointed to learn this sad fact about "the
>fans that publish comics".

You're statement is incomplete. What sad fact are you referring to?

JARKKO:

>

>I just Read the Life and Time Scrooge McDuck (or something like that.
My

>English isn't so good). There are one thing i don't get. Some his story
said

>that Scrooge is coming to Duckburg in 1947. But in the last part of
his

>book, hi said then Donald meet Scrooge. So what the truth.

Maybe the following extract from my Don Rosa/Scrooge timeline can help
you (i.e all the

dates are from Don Rosa stories):

__________________________________________

1902 - Scrooges father Fergus McDuck dies. Scrooge returns to Castle
McDuck planning to stay there. Scrooge buys his first red coat.
<bold>Scrooge and his sisters Hortense and Matilda journey to Duckburg,
Calisota in America.</bold> Scrooge has saved up his first billion in
cash.

1904 - Scrooge sells recordings of "The Baggage Coach Ahead" at the 1904
world's fair.

1908 - Scrooge buys Goldpolis and Boomcity railroad shares for 50 dollars
in Nevada. Copperhead McViper and his brothers try to steal them, but
fail. [ SOURCE: "Mystery of the Ghost Town Railroad" by Carl Barks ]

1909 - Scrooge returns briefly to Duckburg. He is now the 74th richest
person in the world. Scrooge meets his secretary Emily Quackfaster for
the first time. Scrooge and his two sisters travel to Africa. Does his
first and last dishonest deed there. Tribe chief puts Voodoo curse on
Scrooge in the form of Bombie the Zombie. Scrooges sisters return to
Duckburg.

1910 - Scrooge buys his hat for 2 dollars in St.Petersburg and gets his
cane free with it. Clinton Coot dies.

1912 - Scrooge dives for treasure in the Caribbean on the Spanish
Maine.

1920 - Donald Duck is born. Daisy Duck is born. Della Duck is born.
Scrooge trades coconuts in Pago Pago.

1929 - Collapse of the stock exchange in Duckburg.

1933 - Scrooge sells vacuum cleaners in the Dust Bowl.

1938 - May: Mysterious Aunt Fanny sends Gus Goose on visit to Donald
Duck.

1940 - Huey, Dewey and Louie are born.

1947 - <bold>Donald meets his Uncle Scrooge for the second time in his
life, Huey, Dewey and Louie meet him for the first time.</bold> The
"current"(that is, the version of the Beagle Boys Don Rosa uses in his
non-retrospective stories(i.e. Most of the time the stories that don't
deal with Scrooges past)) Beagle Boys and Scrooge meet for the first
time.

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Nils Lid Hjort:
>
>Rosa also had a session with fans, signing books, making drawings,
>and so on, at the "Tegneseriegalleriet", Jan P. Krogh's comic book
>shop/museum/gallery at Langes gate. This session was a little bit too short for
>comfort, being pressed for time by other engagements; the local Hjemmet/Egmont
>organisers are really making the most out of their star and indirect
>breadwinner these days, in terms of "maximum public visibility", and on this
>scale a simple fan group meeting doesn't count as much as the media. Krogh
>didn't know the necessary details of this until quite late last week, which
>meant that it was too late to make this well known at all, for example [the
>maillist knew, though]. In light of this and the difficult time of the day,
>from 1 to 2, the fan group was surprisingly big; they were eager, and Don
>treated them generously and patiently (as on previous occasions). I think some
>maillist readers were present.

Just a little add to this. As far as I got to know, me, Mads Iversen, Gaute
Kongsnes and Nj?l Guldbrandsen were the mailinglistmembers who were there.
And because of the rather small group of about 30 people who had come to get
Dons signature, he also got time for drawings. But as always things last
longer than planned, so he signed and drew for about 1,5 hour. After that he
had a tour around in the comics-museum and finally some of the employees and
some of us fans had a private meeting with him for an hour. It was really
nice and as said before he is truly faithful to his fans. It was really nice
also to meet his wife which also had to sign things and join in pictures.
<Logout>
~Christer

Yesterday I wrote:
<<<
But first: All Swedes, please note the following: on the Disney pages'
"Upcoming Events" one finds the following note:
<<Nov 27 (Thursday)
Don Rosa will not be in Stockholm, Sweden to sign the new
Life of Scrooge book as previously announced! >>
This surprised Don, who insists that yes, he _is_ coming to Stockholm Wednesday
evening, and "is available" Thursday (and Friday morning?)!
>>>

after which Per Starback added:
<<That was cancelled, according to information that came yesterday to
and then from Stefan Dios.>>

Stefan (Don's regular translator for the Swedish editions, right?) and Per
are right. I do not know what went wrong with the plans of mice and men and
ducks, and not what went wrong with the lines of communications between the
Swedes, the Oslo staff taking care of Don here, and Don himself. But apparently
many other people knew about the Cancellation of Sweden a long time before
either Oslo editor Svein Erik Soeland or indeed Main Person Don Rosa knew
about it. Is something rotten in the state of Sweden, perhaps?

My impression from talking to Soeland is that matters had been arranged at the
last minute, and that now also a TV appointment had been made, but that
these efforts had been too half-hearted and too late. So the Rosas will be
flying home earlier than planned. Rosa will be disappointed about not meeting
many of his friends and readers (he told me he looked forward to this, even if
it should turn out that other "more official meetings" had been cancelled), and
he is probably disappointed with the rather unprofessional handling of the
planning and organisation of his intended visit.

Nils Lid Hjort

A story by Sander Gulien (the second in France!) has been published here
one week ago! I was not very impressed by the first one, but I must
admit that the second looks especially good. It's so much Jippes-like!
I'm just wondering if his style has evolved to something really
original?

Harry talked about a Block & Fernandez story published in Holland. I
know only one other example of a Gladstone (2nd run) story published
outside the US: the Van Horn story "The Hauntland Treasure", AR 216,
printed in Picsou 298. Are there other stories (coded AR 2xx) that were
published in the Egmont countries?

I asked the editors at Disney-France why they don't publish those new
Gladstone stories (Super Picsou would be the perfect place!): they
replied that there are not enough of them, and that they don't want to
bother them to buy only two or three stories! Except when it is a *good*
*Van* *Horn* Donald Duck story, of course...

Francois

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End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #258
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On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 21:58:28 +0100, you wrote:

>From: Rich Bellacera <(Email removed)>
>Subject: PAPERINIK & MOUSEWORKS
>
>LUNA STORTA (re: PAPERINIK!)
>
From what I've read here concerning the "New Adventures of
>Super-Donald" the nearly unanimous opinion is that these
>tales were not very good, despite the quality paper, ink
>and artwork.

Let me add my DKK 0.02 to this.

In the beginning of the year I saw this new PKNA book. So I bought it.
I read it. And now I can't wait to get my hand on the next issue - it
must be #10 or so. To put it even shorter: I'm a PKNA fan. Unlike most
others, I think the stories are top-quality, and some even had me
thinking about the big global issues in the world today. (F.ex. #4). I
like the detailed drawings - when reading, I often go back a few pages
to catch another little detail which is important to the story.

The old PK was fighting crime in Duckburg, PKNA is fighting for good
old mother Earth. For me, that is *the* difference between PK and
PKNA. But then again, I also have a soft spot for mother Earth.
(Mertha?)

Furthermore, it good to see that the creators of PKNA has managed to
keep the original Donald intact. I mean, you know that that guy on the
top of that big building is PKNA, but he's still *our* Donald.

> How about the original Super-Donald
>tales? What do you think of the costumed versions of Fethry, Goofy,
>Gilbert and possibly even Pete and Mickey?

I like Super Goof. I also like the one time Daisy was a superhero, but
if she were to continue her career as a such, I would probably hate
it. Unless she teamed up with PKNA! ;)

For the record, I once read DC, no Marvel - ever.

/Signoff Motiffo

To reply, write to: (Email removed)

STEFAN DIOS commented, on the failure of the Swedes to bring Don Rosa
to Stockholm:
<<To me, this decision is quite remarkable, given all the efforts made to
actually squeeze in a date for this trip in Don's busy European schedule.>>
We non-Americans should also note that the intended visit dates, which the
Rosas had gone out of their way to agree to, included Thanksgiving Day. To
miss this day in America is like not being in Norway on the 17th of May...

HARRY FLUKS, like me, discussed the Italian edition of the Life and Times
hardcover book. Could you also briefly describe the _Dutch_ edition for us?

CHRISTER HANSSEN added to my own words, describing Don's visit to Krogh's
comic book shop:
<<Just a little add to this. As far as I got to know, me, Mads Iversen, Gaute
Kongsnes and Nj=E5l Guldbrandsen were the mailinglistmembers who were there.>>
And one more!
Incidentally, I stumbled across the following web-placed article of interest,
about Krogh's store, and even with Rosa's favourable comments:
http://norway.origo.no/embla/literature/comics.html .
Link collectors and comic book web page administrators out there should add
this on to their lists.

GARY at Gladstone asked me to be a tad more realistic:
<<These factors can vary in their impact, but they can't be made to go away.
What a creator really gets out of a royalty agreement can be quite
unpleasantly shocking when the particulars aren't adequately examined.>>
Of course, agreed; I _have_ seen publishing contracts, from both sides of
the table, so to speak, and I know several publishers and am well and
respectfully aware of their tasks. My mental exercise, "ten percent of 40 usd
times 80,000", was merely meant to take in the scale of things, but my wording
might have been too suggestive. My principal point was and is concern about
the surprising aspect of this great (in many senses of the word) book project
that its sole author has a right to _zero percent_ royalty.

Nils Lid Hjort

PS: And K.A. Olsen wrote, reviewing and analysing the many controversies on
the maillist:
<<(The only regular list contributor who seems unable to get into trouble
is professor Hjort. Why, mr Hjort? Defend yourself!)>>
Oops: wrong maillist!