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At 17.27 1999-01-25, Don Rosa wrote:
>Do I recall someone on here once seeking the words to that tune that $crooge
>says Goldie was singing when he first saw her in the Blackjack Ballroom? If
>someone ever found those words, could they send them to me? I can use 'em,
>maybe...

Well... in March 1997 I wrtoe thus:

Oh, yes: After the Ball (by Chas. K. Harris) would
*certainly* have remained popular in c. 1898 -- it
was one of the *very* biggest hits in it's time,
and is still played today; actually it's one of my
favourite waltzes!

And I certainly have the lyrics for that one, from a facsimile of the
original 1892 sheet-music, too! Here goes:

----------

AFTER THE BALL
Music and lyrics by Chas K. Harris 1892

Verse: A little maiden, climbed an old man's knee
Begged for a story -- "Do Uncle, please."
Why are you single; why live alone?
Have you no babies; have you no home?
I had a sweetheart, years, years ago;
Where she is now pet, you will soon know
List to the story, I'll tell it all,
I believed her faithless after the ball

Chorus: After the ball is over, after the break of morn
After the dancers' leaving; after the stars are gone;
Many a heart is aching, if you could read them all;
Many the hopes that have vanished after the ball

Verse: Bright lights were flashing in the grand ball-room
Softly the music, playing sweet tunes
There came my sweetheart, my love, my own --
'I wish some water, leave me alone'
When I returned dear there stood a man,
Kissing my sweetheart as lovers can
Down fell the glass pet, broken, that's all,
Just as my heart was after the ball

Chorus: After the ball is over...

Verse: Long years have passed child, I've never wed,
True to my lost love, though she is dead
She tried to tell me, tried to explain;
I would not listen, pleadings were vain,
One day a letter came from that man
He was her brother -- the letter ran
That's why I'm lonely, no home at all
I broke her heart pet, after the ball

Chorus: After the ball is over...

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All the best, as always!

/Mattias

*** Mattias Hallin ** Brussels ** Belgium ** <(Email removed)> ***
* *
* "Oh bury me thar! With my battered git-tar! *
************* A-screamin' my heart out fer yew!" *************

DEAN:

You're not being naive, believe me. Of course you want to do *something*!
It's just that rignt now my advice is...patience. All current issues
concerning the Disney comics license are in the hands of the attorneys for
the parties involved. Once these issues are dealt with to the extent that
they no longer have a material bearing on Disney's decisionmaking
processes, a person may well be named to whom appeals could be properly,
and even profitably, made. When we reach that point I say send 'em whatever
letter you're moved to write**, and don't spare the stamps!

**Naturally, you should refrain from insulting anyone's intelligence and/or
parentage. Not that I believe you would do any such thing, but I'm terribly
cavaet-conscious these days. Can't think why...

I am trying to make arrangements so I can get to Boston and
meet Don again. It would be nice to meet others from this list.

Also, am I to understand that there is nowhere else that Disney
duck comics are printed in English? What about the UK? If so,
I would try to get a mail subscription.It has been suggested that
some form of periodical (quarterly/bi/annual) be offered. I would
go for that (anything that prevents duck withdrawal...I can feel
the shakes starting already).

One other idea. The Gladstone site had several stories online.
Could not Egmont offer such a service via paid subscription and
ID/password to we net-dwellers? Think about it. Low overhead,
no distribution hassles, existing market,etc.
Gary Pantzer (Upstate NY,USA)

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Hi everybody,

Paolo:
>I love to collect old Topolino issues, but not only for the old stories
they have
<snip>
it's very interesting to learn those infos directly from the products from
these years, includet Topolino advertising and editorials!
I completely agree with you. When I buy old Topolino issues, I use to read
them thoroughly, advertising and editorials included.
However, I'd be more than satisfied even if Disney Italia decided to reprint
only the stories from the first issues... Being my collection a "short" one
(compared with your 30 meters, if I recall correctly ;-)), I still miss most
of those!
>> Maybe some Italian list members - and occasional contributors to Disney
publications ;-) - can provide their opinion on the above, or even make
Disney/Italia sensible to the issue? (It would be a good opportunity for
them to write philological notes, and for us to read them...)
>Luca, Leonardo, that's for you! ;-)
Indeed... Which also brings to my mind a question I'd like to ask Luca about
the "Tesori" book, which I bought some days ago.
The book contains both the English and the Italian version of four Barks
stories (Riddle of the Red Hat, Victory Garden, Gorilla, and Horsing around
with History), with very interesting introductory notes to each story,
mostly written by Luca (who, however, didn't write the intro to "Horsing
around" - which maybe explains why no mention at all is made of poor William
Van Horn!).
Speaking about "Riddle of the Red Hat", Luca states that Italians had to
wait nine years to see the story (first reprinted in Albo d'Oro 64/1954).
However, my sources date the Albo d'Oro #64 to 1947... is that correct?
Maybe the 1954 one was a reprint of the original Albo d'Oro?
On to a different topic... some days ago, Luca wrote
>The problem is that (as usual) I write a lot of lines, which are
"compressed" later by Disney, during the editing process.
Luca, has something similar happened to your article about the Bermuda
Triangle in IMD #13? I suspect you wrote something about the Triangle's far
past, but it got edited out... If that's correct, could you tell us what was
cut from your original version?
While we're speaking of IMD: after the forthcoming Scarpa issue (I'm looking
forward to the "Fondazione De' Paperoni" story - wonderful choice!), are
they going to start a third round of the "Magnificent Seven" (Carpi, Murry,
Bottaro, Cavazzano, Gottfredson, De Vita, Scarpa), or is some other
"Maestro" being taken into account? I assume Barks, Rosa, Rota and other
"Duck" artists (Strobl, Bradbury, Jippes, Milton, Branca...) are seen as
"Zio Paperone"'s "territory", but what about "one-shots" for people like
Asteriti, Gatto, P.L. De Vita, Gil Turner, Al Hubbard, even Bordini and
Perego (though I know most people on this List are horrified at the sole
thought...)?

ALL:
I noticed an interesting detail in the English version of "DD and the
Gorilla": Donald is reading a newspaper whose front page carries some
unusual headlines (in very small characters)... "Baby kills mother and
shoots Pa", "Hophead (?) elected police chief", "No more gas, says
O.P.A.(?)". I'm sure this has already been noticed and probably also
discussed on the Mailing List, but I'd like to have some opinions about the
matter, especially in the light of the "politically-correctness" issue that
recently emerged in Italy, too.

Ciao to all,
Armando

The last issue of Mickey-Parade feature an old Scarpa story:

- cover by Cavazzano
- MM story by Limido and Cordara
- Scarpa's "I gamberi in salmi" ("RS 1")
- I 2205 by Mottura and Cordara
- I 1970 by Lavoradori and Michelini
- I 2213 by Mulazzi and Dalla Santa (very Scarpa-like)

The last issue of Zio Paperone is also very interesting, with a
Dutch story by Sander Gulien and some illustrations of Bradbury
that I've never seen before.

Francois

Hi all,

I have been following some of the discussion about Gladstone discontinuing
publication of Disney comics. The owner of my local comic book store said
they have discontinued the comic albums as well. Is that true? Somehow I
got the impression they would continue those.

Went to Bruce Hamilton's web site to see if I could find out anything
there, but didn't see anything on the subject. It was last updated
December 28, 1998 and still had a form for new subscriptions.

So are the Comic Albums finished as well?

Tryg

Tryg Helseth <(Email removed)>
"I wish they all could be Calisota Ducks!" - The Beach Drakes

In Digest V99 # 16, MICHAEL NAIMAN writes:

<< Other than UNCLE SCROOGE #40, what other Disney or Gold Key issues utilized
the square word balloons and/or colored borders? >>

Sure, almost all of the 1962 thru early '63 Gold Keys did. DD # 85, MM # 86,
lots of Warner Bros. and Hanna-Barbera titles. I can even recall this in
"Nancy and Sluggo", though I haven't had one of those since the mid sixties.

Daffy Duck # 31 is where I first saw it, back in '62 - and, boy, did that look
odd!

Colored borders disappeared very quickly (Thankfully!), but square dialogue
balloons appeared into 1964, especially in H-B comics. During '63 Paul Murry
actually tried to "round" the square look of the balloons (recall Murry often
did his own lettering) - so they ended up neither square nor rounded - but an
odd combination of both. Check out MM # 88 for an example of this - they
kinda looked like marshmallows with words inside them!

Joe Torcivia.

ARMANDO:

>I completely agree with you. When I buy old Topolino issues, I use to read
>them thoroughly, advertising and editorials included.

Me too! Last years I found a picture of the place where now my house is...
but at that time (more than twenty years ago) it was kind of different :-)

>While we're speaking of IMD: after the forthcoming Scarpa issue (I'm
looking
>forward to the "Fondazione De' Paperoni" story - wonderful choice!), are
>they going to start a third round of the "Magnificent Seven" (Carpi, Murry,
>Bottaro, Cavazzano, Gottfredson, De Vita, Scarpa), or is some other
>"Maestro" being taken into account? I assume Barks, Rosa, Rota and other
>"Duck" artists (Strobl, Bradbury, Jippes, Milton, Branca...) are seen as
>"Zio Paperone"'s "territory", but what about "one-shots" for people like
>Asteriti, Gatto, P.L. De Vita, Gil Turner, Al Hubbard, even Bordini and
>Perego (though I know most people on this List are horrified at the sole
>thought...)?

First, I'd chop out Murry right away... I'm not saying he wasn't good, but,
actually, he hasn't got a thing to do with all the other Maestros.
And would definitely change the *order*!
How in hell could they put Scarpa for last?? I see why Lidia Cannatella says
that "he sometimes acts like the least nice Mickey" (ehm... I can't find a
better way to translate this, but the meaning was that... page 96 IMD#7 :-)
And, actually, I'd chop out Gottfredson too... he's one of the best (my
personal preferences go to Scarpa, Barks and Gottfredson), but IMD is not
his place... they have to cut things and remount the strips... then color
them for commercial reasons... and honestly, the output sucks.
The only good things left there are Luca's, Leonardo's and Alberto's
articles

But I'm complaining too much... IMD is the best comic out now and it was a
blessing for all of us!

>I noticed an interesting detail in the English version of "DD and the
>Gorilla": Donald is reading a newspaper whose front page carries some
>unusual headlines (in very small characters)... "Baby kills mother and
>shoots Pa", "Hophead (?) elected police chief", "No more gas, says
>O.P.A.(?)". I'm sure this has already been noticed and probably also
>discussed on the Mailing List, but I'd like to have some opinions about the
>matter, especially in the light of the "politically-correctness" issue that
>recently emerged in Italy, too.

I'd noticed that too, and thought that old times were better times :-)) (and
that probably who edited Tesori didn't realize what was written there :-)))

BTW... has any other Italian seen the other morning on tv our megadirector
Paolo Cavaglione guest in a show? He was there with Mastantuono who was
drawing some ducks, but I only saw the end credits... I have no idea what
they were doing there...

Francesco