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Katie Sullivan
Hi! My goodness, I haven't posted here in like FOREVER! College has eaten up a lot of
my time, my grandmother has been very sick, and I finally got myself a job! (I'm a
webpage design assistant at a local online service. It's just a part-time position in
between my studies.)
Anyway, I just wanted to say hello, and toss in a few thoughts:

> >>>Would it be hard to
> get the rights from Disney to do something like that?
>
> Rosa: I think the appropriate expression is "ROFL", though there might be a vastly
> stronger one that I'm unfamiliar with.

I don't know about *vastly* stronger, but there's ROTFLMAO...Rolling on the Floor
Laughing my [nasty word for a body part/alternative word for donkey] off. :-)

> Do I recall someone on here once seeking the words to that tune that $crooge
> says Goldie was singing when he first saw her in the Blackjack Ballroom? If
> someone ever found those words, could they send them to me? I can use 'em,
> maybe...

I could tell you, but Mattias beat me to it. :-) I'm the expert in all things Goldie,
remember. I wonder just why you would need the words, but I'll be patient... *big
grin*

And hopefully all of you won't have to be patient waiting for my next message!

Best wishes!

Quackerely,

Katie Sullivan, a.k.a. Miss Quackfaster, a.k.a. goldie1898
:-)
http://fly.to/duckburg
Fluks, H.W.
Joe Torcivia wrote:

> << Other than UNCLE SCROOGE #40, what other Disney or Gold
> Key issues utilized
> the square word balloons and/or colored borders? >>
>
> Sure, almost all of the 1962 thru early '63 Gold Keys did.
> DD # 85, MM # 86,
> lots of Warner Bros. and Hanna-Barbera titles.

I'm currently indexing the Dutch reprints of these kinds of stories, and it
seems to me that certain stories (but not all) in the WDC&S comic were also
in that layout. Is that true?

--Harry.

Harry Fluks, Leidschendam, The Netherlands
http://www.wxs.nl/~fluks4
http://members.xoom.com/bolderbast

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Don Rosa
From: "Ole Reichstein Nielsen"
>>>I could put it on my web page, and I would strongly advise anyone against
trying to sue me: no profit in that, guys! :-)

You are not referring to people who would sue you for monetary purposes.
They would sue you to *set an example*. How that would effect you
personally, financially or emotionally, would matter not a bit to them.

From: Merlin Haas
>>>>Question for Don Rosa:
Do you get to keep a copy of your English dialogue scripts or does
Disney make you send that in with the art too?

Well, they could hardly prevent me from keeping a copy for myself.
Nonetheless, try to remember (though I can imagine it's confusing) that we
who do these Disney comics have no contact or relationship to the Disney
Corporation... we work for the licensed publishers (Gladstone, Egmont, etc.)
who are the people who create the comics, start to finish. However,
according to the contract that was forced on people who worked for those
short-lived *Disney* Disney Comics of the early 90s, among many other
unbelievable clauses, it actually DID say that the artists could not keep
copies (yes, *copies*!) of their work and the writers could not keep copies
of their scripts. All such material belonged to the Disney Corporation.
Surely this contract died with that comics line. (?)

>>>What exactly are you allowed to keep?

You're referring to physical objects that I do not sell to someone? I keep
it all, of course, regardless of who might think they own it by a wave of
Tinkerbell's wand.
Merlin Haas
I took the time to check WDC&S and found a) that my memory isn't
as good as I thought and b) the matter of square balloons and color
borders is more complicated than it seems.

First Gold Key issue is 264 (9/62), and is normal, as are 265 & 266.
267 (12/62) has normal Barks DD story, but rest of the stories have
square balloons with *no* borders (just like someone whited out the
panel borders on the original art.) There is a one page Uncle Scrooge
strip by Strobl with color borders.
268 - Barks is normal. Rest have square balloons with regular borders.
269 - Some stories have balloons that look to be altered from square
style. Regular borders.
270 - Square balloons on Murry MM story only.
271 - Square balloons on everything but Barks.
272 - Square balloons on Strobl Ludwig Von Drake story only. "Rounded
corners" on balloons in Murry MM story.
273 - Square balloons on MM story by ? (not Murry)
274 - Square balloons on Strobl Ludwig Von Drake story only. "Rounded
corners" on balloons in Murry MM story.
275 - Square balloons on Spiegle Zorro story only. "Rounded corners" on
balloons in Murry MM & Lil Bad Wolf stories.
276 - No square balloons. Rounded corner balloons continue on Murry
MM serial until 279 (12/63)
280 - everything back to normal (1/64)

All Barks stories in WDC&S are "normal." Apparently the Uncle Scrooge 40
story is the only Barks one with the color borders. There is only one
page with color borders in WDC&S.

best -- Merlin Haas (who will eventually check the rest of the Gold Key
Disney books and report back unless someone else does it first.)
Merlin Haas
Considering the current state of USA Disney comics, it is amazing to
look at the Statement of Ownership in Walt Disney Comics and Stories 280
(Jan/64--35 years ago) and find that the average circulation in the
preceding 12 months was 446,770, and of that figure *157,000* were
mailed to subscribers.
The "Good Old Days"....

best -- Merlin Haas (I had subs to WDC&S, Mickey Mouse, and Uncle
Scrooge when I was a kid back then)
Dirk Djuga
Hi Christian,

I thought I'ld greet you via the mailing list. Though I'm sure that
enough people will respond to tell you that the "Don Rosa" here is
indeed the Ron Dosa who creates the duck comics published by Ehapa :)
=20
I am German too. I mostly only lurk here, because I am both no collector
and not so much interested in the current production...

My Disney comics world begins and ends with Floyd Gottfredson, Carl
Barks and Romano Scarpa.
To give you an example: In the 80s I chopped up my collection of
"Lustige Taschenb=FCcher" and "Donald Duck", keeping only the "good
stories" and throwing away the crappy remainders (including the
abominable "Vorgeschichte"). The good stories I bound into books of my
own. At that time I did not have means to find out who created the
stories (of course I knew about Carl Barks and Floyd Gottfredson but
those were not in these books) Later I found out that *each and every*
story I had kept was by Scarpa, with the exception of two stories that
were indeed by Floyd Gottfredson...=20

But I love to follow the list because some of the joy other people here
have with current disney comics rubs off :)

Meanwhile you will have noticed that there are many Europeans here - if
you followed the recent discussions you could see that we are much
better off with disney comics than US fans :o/

BTW: What are your favourite stories in the disney comics that are
currently published in Germany? (Maybe it rubs off some more :))=20

And welcome to the list!
--=20
Dirk Djuga mailto:(Email removed)
http://www.djuga.net
Cebarat
BOTTO ARMANDO wrote:
<<I noticed an interesting detail in the English version of "DD and the
Gorilla": Donald is reading a newspaper whose front page carries some
unusual headlines (in very small characters)... "Baby kills mother and
shoots Pa", "Hophead (?) elected police chief", "No more gas, says
O.P.A.(?)". I'm sure this has already been noticed and probably also
discussed on the Mailing List, but I'd like to have some opinions about the
matter, especially in the light of the "politically-correctness" issue that
recently emerged in Italy, too.>>

The last headline has nothing at all to do with "political correctness"; it's
a wartime (WWII) reference to the Office of Price Administration (OPA), the
temporary federal agency charged with controlling prices and running the
rationing system. Among the materials rationed by OPA was gasoline. (BTW,
there is another reference to OPA in a Barks story; look at the formulae
floating above Donald's head in "The Mad Chemist"!)

As for the others, I believe that "hophead" was a 40's slang term for someone
who uses marijuana (an ancestor of "pothead")... and whether or not one takes
the "baby shooting" gag seriously enough to want to ban it out of "PC" is
strictly up to one's own feelings about violence, I suppose.

Chris Barat
(Email removed)
SRoweCanoe
In a message dated 1/28/99 10:06:11 AM EST, (Email removed)
writes:

> and an apparent whistling version (I haven't heard it) by John Yorrke was on
> the charts for three weeks starting July 8, 1893

Not that anyone particarly care, but it's John Yorke Atlee. This information
was taken from the book, "Pop Memories". This chart informationws from the
publication "Phonogram". After the Ball was apparently the #3 hit of the
1890s. The toher top songs of that decade are: My Old NewHampshire Home, On
the Banks of the Wabash, The Laughing Song, The Band Played On, Daisy Bell,
The Sidewalks of New York, Sweet Rosie O'Grady, The Stars and Stripes Forever,
O Promise Me.

the big recording stars? George J. Gaskin, George Washington Johnson, Dan
Quinn and John Phillip Sousa's Band.

Stevem Rowe
Mattias Hallin
At 17.46 1999-01-28, (Email removed) wrote:
>As for the others, I believe that "hophead" was a 40's slang term for someone
>who uses marijuana (an ancestor of "pothead")...

Nope. Or, if the pun may be excused: no dope! A hophead, according to Mezz
Mezzrow, was (is?) an opiumsmoker, someone who, in contemporary parlance,
was "kicking the gong around". As an intersting aside, there are two jazz
tunes from the early thirties named (you guessed it!) "Hophead" and
"Kicking The Gong Around", respectively.

/Mattias

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Christian Peters
It`wonderful,that Don Rosa is on that List!
I love your comics very much.But in Germany there are not so many comics by
you.
(I love "Onkel Dagobert-sein Leben,seine Milliarden"-it was in the Micky
Maus-Magazin in 12 chapters.)
Why don`t you draw(?) comics for the "Lustiges Taschenbuch"(that`s the name
in German).
I love your stil to draw comics-i think it must be in the "Lustiges
Taschenbuch".
You`re my favourite comic-drawer(that isn`t the right word....).(I like Carl
Barks,Flemming Andersen and Massimo de Vita too)

Man liest sich...
CHRISTIAN
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Arthur De Wolf
Hi!

CHRISTIAN PETERS:
> It`wonderful,that Don Rosa is on that List!
> I love your comics very much.But in Germany there are
> not so many comics by you.

Are you kidding? I don't think there are any other countries
where there are more comics with Rosa's stories than in Germany.
You should consider yourself lucky to have the Onkel Dagobert
album series there.

> Why don`t you draw(?) comics for the "Lustiges Taschenbuch"
> (that`s the name in German). I love your stil to draw comics-i
> think it must be in the "Lustiges Taschenbuch".

Many countries have pocket-books like the German "Lustiges
Tashenbuch", but those comicbooks only have Italian stories
in them, with 3 rows on one page. Don't you agree that it's nicer
that his stories are printed in the big albums in stead of in
the small pocket books?

Arthur de Wolf
http://www.dcomics.org
Michael Naiman
Is there an Index to the British publication MICKEY & FRIENDS?

THANX!

Michael

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Henning Reichstein Nielsen
"OLE REICHSTEIN NIELSEN":
>I could put it on my web page, and I would strongly advise anyone against
>trying to sue me: no profit in that, guys! :-)

DON ROSA:
>You are not referring to people who would sue you for monetary purposes.
>They would sue you to *set an example*. How that would effect you
>personally, financially or emotionally, would matter not a bit to them.

Yes, of course you're right. And I can't believe someone used *my* name for
such a dangerous statement. Just as a security precaution, I'll be using my
dad's for a while hereafter. ;-)

Still, I find it silly that someone would argue that a script for a published
comic is worth anything to anyone who hasn't already bought the pictures
for it. By buying one edition does one not have the right to enjoy the story
in whatever language one prefers? But maybe it only works the other way
around, so Disney automatically owns any story, regardless of language
or whatever, as soon as it contains copyrighted characters?

Has anyone ever tried to publish a story with Disney characters without
images ("distinctive likeness")?

>unbelievable clauses, it actually DID say that the artists could not keep
>copies (yes, *copies*!) of their work and the writers could not keep copies
>of their scripts. All such material belonged to the Disney Corporation.
>Surely this contract died with that comics line. (?)

So you don't have those Disney Comics in your vault containing "copies"
of your stories? ;-) Sounds like your civil rights were infringed here.

>Subject: Re: Square balloons and color borders in WDC&S

I can add that my Danish edition of Gold Key Christmas Parade #1 from
1962 has square balloons too. At the time Egmont was also breaking in
a few new artists, and Nils Rydahl did all his art like this for several years
thereafter. Somebody must have forgotten to tell him it was out-of-style.

MICHAEL NAIMAN:
>Is there an Index to the British publication MICKEY & FRIENDS?

To date only a few random issues have found their way into our database.
They are almost identical to the other Egmont weeklies of the time (1993-94).

Ol... er, "Henning" Reichstein Nielsen
Mike Devery
Hi all,

I've just come back to the list after a long absence due to travelling
(lucky me?!).
Anyway, I just got the latest (last?!!!) issue of Gladstone's Uncle
Scrooge (#318), and read the rather shocking news that it may be the last
issue, unless a new publisher if found. OH MY GOD!
I emailed Gladstone, and got a reply saying there was no news to report
yet. D'oh!

And to cap it all off, all of Wolfman's web pages with details of Disney
comics around the world seem to have gone (hopefully to a new address, but
I can't find them...)

It seems the Duck world as I know it is coming to an end! Hopefully I'll
find some good news via this list......

Mike.

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Mike Devery
Melbourne, Australia.
http://www.netspace.net.au/~mdevery
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Donald D. Markstein
DON ROSA --
I wrote several scripts for Disney Comics. Tho I
was flabbergasted at some of the terms of the contract
(not content with worldwide rights, they claimed all
rights in the Universe), I don't recall anything in it
about not keeping a copy of my own script. Seems like I
would've, too, because I (naturally) DID keep copies of
my scripts, and such a blatant and willful violation of
the contract would probably have stuck in my memory.

Quack, Don
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