I'll come out of my hide once again and add my $0.02 on the issue:
Catfoot is indeed the long-snouted, bearded sidekick of Pete in several Paul Murry Mickey stories. As for the cat villain
in Rescue Rangers, I always thought his name was just Fat Cat. I've never seen him called Catfoot in the cartoons anyway.
Don't know about possible RR comics.
[{(Monte)}]
http://montecristo.tsx.org
-----------------------------
<Everyone is a hypocrite.>
Author
Topic: 199901
(170 messages)
T.Jokela
On Catfoot
Message 61 -
1999-01-09 at 15:11:40
Stefan Diös
Disney comics Digest V99 #4
Message 62 -
1999-01-09 at 15:13:32
Don Rosa informed us:
>In the German printing of my "Cowboy Captain of the Cutty Sark", I am now
>told that the name "Cutty Sark" *will* be used for the Cutty Sark, and a
>footnote will be employed to explain the apparently strange sounding name to
>the younger readers.
This is splendiferous news not only for Don and for the German editors, but
most of all for the German readers... all the range of'em, from comics
experts and other sophisticated adults to the youngest first-time readers.
Given last year's discussion about footnotes, let it be known that I
sincerely applaud the decision to use one here. There should be few
occasions when footnotes really are needed in a story, but I can hardly
think of a better example than this one.
Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden
>In the German printing of my "Cowboy Captain of the Cutty Sark", I am now
>told that the name "Cutty Sark" *will* be used for the Cutty Sark, and a
>footnote will be employed to explain the apparently strange sounding name to
>the younger readers.
This is splendiferous news not only for Don and for the German editors, but
most of all for the German readers... all the range of'em, from comics
experts and other sophisticated adults to the youngest first-time readers.
Given last year's discussion about footnotes, let it be known that I
sincerely applaud the decision to use one here. There should be few
occasions when footnotes really are needed in a story, but I can hardly
think of a better example than this one.
Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden
Luca Boschi
Mea culpa? Hmmm...
Message 63 -
1999-01-09 at 15:43:25
Hi, all, again!
I tell you something about the famous time-machine and "Maestri
Disney", since the article about which Archontis Pantsios wrote has
been credited to me (and so it is, but...)...
Here's what's stated in page 6 of IMD #6, in the
Archontis' translation: "The story cycle dedicated to the famous
time-machine begins with the adventure 'Topolino e l' enigma di Mu',
TL #1238-39...
Well, what says Francois is right. That...
> Zapotec's first appearance is in "Topolino e l'enigma di
> Mu". And Marco clearly said that Marlin's first appearance (and only
> Marlin's) was in the first "Time Machine Series".
> "The Enigma of Mu" is about an old civilisation and features Zapotec,
> but is only a "pre-time-machine story".
The problem is that (as usual) I write a lot of lines, which are
"compressed" later by Disney, during the editing process. Something is
changed, something is added (for example the sentence "lo vediamo a
destra, in un elegante inchino"), and so on. If the guy who makes this
"editing" doesn't know the story or or not understand the concepts I
want to express... the mistakes and the misunderstandings go directly
on print. I think there is NO issue of MD without almost one problem
of this kind. The first thing I do when I read the new issue, is to
look for such things (and I assume Alberto does the same): how many
changementes or mistakes we should carry on?
Also this time the concept I wrote in the beginning, during the phase
of editing, has been changed. A lot of mistakes pop out in this way,
and both me and Alberto has no possibility to control what is gonna be
printed. We discover stuff only when the magazines are hitting the
newsstands.
In that short "review" of Zapotec I meant that: YES, he is a MDV
creation; his first story has been "The Enigma of Mu" (1979). But the
time-machine saga begins later... And Marco explained how and when.
That's all...
Bye!
Luca
I tell you something about the famous time-machine and "Maestri
Disney", since the article about which Archontis Pantsios wrote has
been credited to me (and so it is, but...)...
Here's what's stated in page 6 of IMD #6, in the
Archontis' translation: "The story cycle dedicated to the famous
time-machine begins with the adventure 'Topolino e l' enigma di Mu',
TL #1238-39...
Well, what says Francois is right. That...
> Zapotec's first appearance is in "Topolino e l'enigma di
> Mu". And Marco clearly said that Marlin's first appearance (and only
> Marlin's) was in the first "Time Machine Series".
> "The Enigma of Mu" is about an old civilisation and features Zapotec,
> but is only a "pre-time-machine story".
The problem is that (as usual) I write a lot of lines, which are
"compressed" later by Disney, during the editing process. Something is
changed, something is added (for example the sentence "lo vediamo a
destra, in un elegante inchino"), and so on. If the guy who makes this
"editing" doesn't know the story or or not understand the concepts I
want to express... the mistakes and the misunderstandings go directly
on print. I think there is NO issue of MD without almost one problem
of this kind. The first thing I do when I read the new issue, is to
look for such things (and I assume Alberto does the same): how many
changementes or mistakes we should carry on?
Also this time the concept I wrote in the beginning, during the phase
of editing, has been changed. A lot of mistakes pop out in this way,
and both me and Alberto has no possibility to control what is gonna be
printed. We discover stuff only when the magazines are hitting the
newsstands.
In that short "review" of Zapotec I meant that: YES, he is a MDV
creation; his first story has been "The Enigma of Mu" (1979). But the
time-machine saga begins later... And Marco explained how and when.
That's all...
Bye!
Luca
Tryg Helseth
Disney comics Digest V99 #6
Message 64 -
1999-01-09 at 15:43:31
HALSTEN:
Thanks for forwarding on this list plus the additional suggestions. There
are no doubt a number of other characters that could be on this list--I
thought of Mickey's Nephews, Morty and Ferdy, and Bucky Bug (now I am
showing my age <g>).
I was surprised to see Mickey at number 12, though, and I'd guess he is
isn't all that popular in Norway. Was this poll restricted to comic book
characters? If not, I am sure the same poll conducted in the US would have
been topped off by characters from recent Disney films.
And another thing--how did our poor Miss Quackfaster end up on the bottom
of the list? After all, she does participate on this list. :)
Tryg
"More hay Trigger?" "Not thanks, Roy, I am stuffed!"
Thanks for forwarding on this list plus the additional suggestions. There
are no doubt a number of other characters that could be on this list--I
thought of Mickey's Nephews, Morty and Ferdy, and Bucky Bug (now I am
showing my age <g>).
I was surprised to see Mickey at number 12, though, and I'd guess he is
isn't all that popular in Norway. Was this poll restricted to comic book
characters? If not, I am sure the same poll conducted in the US would have
been topped off by characters from recent Disney films.
And another thing--how did our poor Miss Quackfaster end up on the bottom
of the list? After all, she does participate on this list. :)
Tryg
"More hay Trigger?" "Not thanks, Roy, I am stuffed!"
Kriton Kyrimis
Catfoot
Message 65 -
1999-01-09 at 15:45:00
On the Subject of Catfoot, Luca Boschi wrote:
>
> About Carfoot, Francois Willot wrote:
> > He is the fat cat (a villain) in "Chip'n'Dale Rescue Rangers".
>
> And Harry Fluks wrote the same answer I should have said:
>
> > The partner of (Peg Leg/Black/Bad) Pete in many Murry and Tello
> stories.
> > Also known as Scuttle (and that's the name we chose in our Disney comics
> > Database)...
>
> Francois wrote again:
> > maybe there are two
> > different characters with the same name...
>
> And the answer is YES: there are two characters by the same name.
Am I the only one who remembers that the Rescue Rangers character was called
Fat Cat and not Catfoot?
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"If they should break through, run as if something very nasty were after you,
because something very nasty will be after you."
-----
>
> About Carfoot, Francois Willot wrote:
> > He is the fat cat (a villain) in "Chip'n'Dale Rescue Rangers".
>
> And Harry Fluks wrote the same answer I should have said:
>
> > The partner of (Peg Leg/Black/Bad) Pete in many Murry and Tello
> stories.
> > Also known as Scuttle (and that's the name we chose in our Disney comics
> > Database)...
>
> Francois wrote again:
> > maybe there are two
> > different characters with the same name...
>
> And the answer is YES: there are two characters by the same name.
Am I the only one who remembers that the Rescue Rangers character was called
Fat Cat and not Catfoot?
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"If they should break through, run as if something very nasty were after you,
because something very nasty will be after you."
-----
François Willot
Picsou
Message 66 -
1999-01-09 at 18:59:17
I've forgotten to say that "Picsou" will reprint every ten-pager of
Barks featuring Gladstone, more or less in chronological order, with the
exception of the stories that were published recently in other issue of
"Picsou". It consists of 29 stories.
It's a completely different subject, but there's something I've always
wondered about. Is:
W OS 300-03 20 PM CBu?DD [desc:The fire brigade]
| de: 59-21+,TGD 149
| nl: WB.81
dated November, 1950, and drawn by Paul Murry, the first non-Barks story
featuring Scrooge? There is a Riley Thompson story with Scrooge that
appeared one month after that in WDC:
W WDC 123-04 8 RTh ? GD [app:US,Lucifer]
[desc:US tries
| to catch GD's mice]
| dk: AA51-06,AA70-05*
| nl: 62-15
| se: 51-07,70-05
We do not know what story was made first, nor what are the real
publication dates... Any other idea?
Francois
Barks featuring Gladstone, more or less in chronological order, with the
exception of the stories that were published recently in other issue of
"Picsou". It consists of 29 stories.
It's a completely different subject, but there's something I've always
wondered about. Is:
W OS 300-03 20 PM CBu?DD [desc:The fire brigade]
| de: 59-21+,TGD 149
| nl: WB.81
dated November, 1950, and drawn by Paul Murry, the first non-Barks story
featuring Scrooge? There is a Riley Thompson story with Scrooge that
appeared one month after that in WDC:
W WDC 123-04 8 RTh ? GD [app:US,Lucifer]
[desc:US tries
| to catch GD's mice]
| dk: AA51-06,AA70-05*
| nl: 62-15
| se: 51-07,70-05
We do not know what story was made first, nor what are the real
publication dates... Any other idea?
Francois
Gerstein, David DK - ECN
Disney comics Digest V99 #6
Message 67 -
1999-01-09 at 19:00:04
FRANCOIS said:
>The name of Little Hiawatha's sister is Little Minnehaha (if I'm not
>wrong about the spelling). In France Michel Motti is still drawing and
>writing stories for "Winnie the Pooh" featuring Hiawatha and his sister
>(named "Petite Fleur" here). In the US, the "Minnehaha" stories ended (?)
>long ago in WDCS. The Danish Hiawatha stories are almost unknown in France.
and LUCA added:
>Later, he adds a list of characters that include:
>(...)
>> * Little Hiawatha
>> * Little Hiawatha's sister (what's her name in English?)
>
>Little Minnehaha (in the early stories); later Suflower.
Sorry to be a total grouch, guys, but I'm afraid we're talking about
two different characters here.
Little Minnehaha is Hiawatha's *girlfriend*. Her names come from the
name of the original girlfriend in the Longfellow poem. She's the same
height as Hiawatha, and when she first appears in the Sunday strips of the
early 1940s, the mere sight of her reduces Hiawatha to a stumbling, lovesick
klutz. Originally she had very "feminine" eyes that (I guess) were supposed
to make her look attractive. Oh, and she's also learning to be a hunter and
warrior herself, in the 1944 WDC&S stories.
Later (in the 1950s), Hiawatha's *sister*, Sunflower, appears in the
comics. She's younger than Minnehaha, shorter than both Hiawatha and
Minnehaha, and wears a much bigger feather on her head. She has a much more
innocent face (in spite of the fact that she's often a really obnoxious
pest!). And Hiawatha... uh, is not romantically attracted to Sunflower!
I think translators have confused Minnehaha and Sunflower in the
past, but they're really very different. At least once they've both been in
the same story.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
>The name of Little Hiawatha's sister is Little Minnehaha (if I'm not
>wrong about the spelling). In France Michel Motti is still drawing and
>writing stories for "Winnie the Pooh" featuring Hiawatha and his sister
>(named "Petite Fleur" here). In the US, the "Minnehaha" stories ended (?)
>long ago in WDCS. The Danish Hiawatha stories are almost unknown in France.
and LUCA added:
>Later, he adds a list of characters that include:
>(...)
>> * Little Hiawatha
>> * Little Hiawatha's sister (what's her name in English?)
>
>Little Minnehaha (in the early stories); later Suflower.
Sorry to be a total grouch, guys, but I'm afraid we're talking about
two different characters here.
Little Minnehaha is Hiawatha's *girlfriend*. Her names come from the
name of the original girlfriend in the Longfellow poem. She's the same
height as Hiawatha, and when she first appears in the Sunday strips of the
early 1940s, the mere sight of her reduces Hiawatha to a stumbling, lovesick
klutz. Originally she had very "feminine" eyes that (I guess) were supposed
to make her look attractive. Oh, and she's also learning to be a hunter and
warrior herself, in the 1944 WDC&S stories.
Later (in the 1950s), Hiawatha's *sister*, Sunflower, appears in the
comics. She's younger than Minnehaha, shorter than both Hiawatha and
Minnehaha, and wears a much bigger feather on her head. She has a much more
innocent face (in spite of the fact that she's often a really obnoxious
pest!). And Hiawatha... uh, is not romantically attracted to Sunflower!
I think translators have confused Minnehaha and Sunflower in the
past, but they're really very different. At least once they've both been in
the same story.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Tarjei Kidd Olsen
Norwegian comics-history
Message 68 -
1999-01-09 at 20:35:02
Hi,
ok ok I know this is a bit off-topic, but: I have a pretty important
writing assignment (s=E6remne!) which I've had months to do and which I h=
ave
to deliver next week, so I thought maybe I should get writing ;p
It's about Norwegian comics history and I was wondering if anyone could
direct me to any good online sites where I can find information about thi=
s?
I need to know things such as influences (i.e. foreign comics influence,
domestic influences, etc), dates, names of artists, etc.
Thank's a LOT for any help!
I've found lots about American and European stuff, but specifically
Norwegian was a little harder...
Tarjei Kidd Olsen
----------
(Email removed)
website: http://home.sol.no/kidd/
work: http://panacea.norgesnett.no
----------
ok ok I know this is a bit off-topic, but: I have a pretty important
writing assignment (s=E6remne!) which I've had months to do and which I h=
ave
to deliver next week, so I thought maybe I should get writing ;p
It's about Norwegian comics history and I was wondering if anyone could
direct me to any good online sites where I can find information about thi=
s?
I need to know things such as influences (i.e. foreign comics influence,
domestic influences, etc), dates, names of artists, etc.
Thank's a LOT for any help!
I've found lots about American and European stuff, but specifically
Norwegian was a little harder...
Tarjei Kidd Olsen
----------
(Email removed)
website: http://home.sol.no/kidd/
work: http://panacea.norgesnett.no
----------
Francesco Spreafico
Mea culpa
Message 69 -
1999-01-09 at 23:06:49
ARCHONTIS:
>>I'm confused...other than the 4 above mentioned stories (all appearing >in
the mid->>80s), according to "I MAESTRI DISNEY" #6 dedicated to >Massimo De
Vita, the >>cycle of time-machine stories begins in 1979!
FRANCOIS:
>It's right that Zapotec's first appearance is in "Topolino e l'enigma di
>Mu". And Marco clearly said that Marlin's first appearance (and only
>Marlin's) was in the first "Time Machine Series".
>I don't have my copy to check here, but I don't think that Mickey
>actually *travels* in time in "The Enigm of Mu". Zapotec, BTW, appears
>late in the stories. (I'm certain that someone will correct me if I
>misremember).
>"The Enigml of Mu" is about an old civilisation and features Zapotec,
>but is only a "pre-time-machine story".
You don't misrimember :)
The Enigm of Mu is Zapotec's first appereance, but it doesn't have anything
to do with time travel... it's a normal adventure.
And so are "Anatema del Faraone" (Zapotec's second.... not De Vita) and
"Citta`
di Psathura" (third, and a very good De Vita)
What's written in that MD is a clear mistake, but in the same issue, in
Alberto's article for "La pietra della saggezza" is clearly stated that the
time machine series began with Marlin, created *after* Zapotec :-)
And certainly Marco will make it all even clearer next Tuesday :-))
Francesco
>>I'm confused...other than the 4 above mentioned stories (all appearing >in
the mid->>80s), according to "I MAESTRI DISNEY" #6 dedicated to >Massimo De
Vita, the >>cycle of time-machine stories begins in 1979!
FRANCOIS:
>It's right that Zapotec's first appearance is in "Topolino e l'enigma di
>Mu". And Marco clearly said that Marlin's first appearance (and only
>Marlin's) was in the first "Time Machine Series".
>I don't have my copy to check here, but I don't think that Mickey
>actually *travels* in time in "The Enigm of Mu". Zapotec, BTW, appears
>late in the stories. (I'm certain that someone will correct me if I
>misremember).
>"The Enigml of Mu" is about an old civilisation and features Zapotec,
>but is only a "pre-time-machine story".
You don't misrimember :)
The Enigm of Mu is Zapotec's first appereance, but it doesn't have anything
to do with time travel... it's a normal adventure.
And so are "Anatema del Faraone" (Zapotec's second.... not De Vita) and
"Citta`
di Psathura" (third, and a very good De Vita)
What's written in that MD is a clear mistake, but in the same issue, in
Alberto's article for "La pietra della saggezza" is clearly stated that the
time machine series began with Marlin, created *after* Zapotec :-)
And certainly Marco will make it all even clearer next Tuesday :-))
Francesco
Luca Boschi
First non-Barks Picsou, from Luca Boschi
Message 70 -
1999-01-10 at 02:19:29
Hi, Francois!
>(...) there's something I've always
> wondered about. Is:
>=20
> W OS 300-03 20 PM CBu?DD [desc:The fire brigade]
> | de: 59-21+,TGD 149
> | nl: WB.81
>=20
> dated November, 1950, and drawn by Paul Murry, the first non-Barks stor=
y
> featuring Scrooge? There is a Riley Thompson story with Scrooge that
> appeared one month after that in WDC:
>=20
> W WDC 123-04 8 RTh ? GD [app:US,Lucifer]
> [desc:US tries
> | to catch GD's mice]
> | dk: AA51-06,AA70-05*
> | nl: 62-15
> | se: 51-07,70-05
You're right. I'm just "working" on this subject, for the "Gli Altri=20
Paperoni", on ZP.
For who understand italian, here I drop some lines from my article=20
about this, which shall be published in the issue of march:
(...) Paperino e i ladri di bestiame =8F la prima storia in cui Paul=20
Murry disegna il =D2vero=D3 Paperon de=D5 Paperoni, un personaggio che ne=
lla=20
sua lunghissima carriera non incontrer=88 molto spesso, concentrando la=20
maggior parte della sua futura attivit=88 sul mondo di Topolino.
In realt=88 Paul Murry aveva gi=88 disegnato Paperone qualche mese prima,=
=20
con la storia conosciuta in Italia sotto il titolo di Paperino=20
pompiere [The fire brigade], uscita negli Stati Uniti sul comic book=20
=D2Four Color Comics=D3 n.300 del novembre 1950. Non si tratta di una=20
faccenda di poco conto, poich=8E in quella occasione, per la prima volta=20
dopo Carl Barks, altri autori all'opera sui fumetti Disney (Murry e il=20
suo anonimo sceneggiatore) si occupano dell=D5anziano zio di Paperino.=20
Tuttavia, questa arcaica avventura, concepita ad appena un paio d=D5anni=20
dalla creazione di Uncle Scrooge, mostra una serie di incongruenze=20
tali da non rendere affatto credibile quella interpretazione di=20
Paperone. Come si pu=98 agevolmente controllare, consultando l=D5ultima=20
pubblicazione della storia sul n.2 de =D2I Maestri Disney=D3, in Paperino=
=20
pompiere Paperon de=D5 Paperoni non mostra la minima traccia della sua=20
enorme ricchezza, domiciliato com=D5=8F in una malandata casetta di legno=
=20
alla periferia della citt=88. Privo di cilindro e palandrana, non=20
indossa nemmeno le sue tipiche lenti a pince-nez, bens=93 un paio di=20
occhialoni simili a quelli che Murry disegnava in quello stesso=20
periodo per Nonna Papera. Come se non bastasse, le caratteristiche=20
basette di Paperone vengono interpretate come se fossero la=20
conseguenza di una sorta di =D2calvizie=D3, che Murry mostra scopertament=
e=20
nelle vignette in cui Paperone appare di schiena. =20
Le ragioni di queste stranezze sono spiegabili, se valutiamo il fatto=20
che all=D5epoca non circolavano fra gli autori in forza alla Western=20
Printing and Li. Co. dei model sheets con Paperone, tipico personaggio=20
dei fumetti, mentre erano assai diffusi quelli con i personaggi dei=20
disegni animati, creati negli studi cinematografici della Disney.=20
Murry e i suoi colleghi, perci=98, dovevano arrangiarsi traendo spunto=20
dalle storie gi=88 pubblicate, deducendo da esse tutto quanto era=20
possibile. Facendo un po=D5 di calcoli sui tempi necessari per la=20
scrittura di una trama, la sua approvazione, il disegno, la=20
colorazione, il controllo redazionale e la pubblicazione di una=20
storia, si pu=98 ipotizzare che prima di Paperino pompiere, Paperone=20
fosse apparso in appena cinque avventure. E non =8F affatto detto che=20
Murry le conoscesse tutte, n=8E che l=D5anonimo sceneggiatore che aveva=20
scritto le trame tenesse molto in considerazione gli input di Barks.
(...)
=20
> We do not know what story was made first, nor what are the real
> publication dates...=20
Maybe they are conceived in the meantime, but I assume by two=20
different story men (the one of the Riley Thompson story with Scrooge=20
maybe the same of the later Granda story for WDC&S titled "No=20
Trespassing", with the art of Frank McSauvage). In situations like=20
these, we can consider the dates printed on the magazines...
So, Murry is the first (Nov. '50); Thompson follows (Dec. '50). Then=20
we have Murry again (Vacation Parade, Jul. '51), the fourth story is=20
drawn by Bob Moore ("Southern Hospitality", FC 379/ Apr. '52). The=20
Fifth is the Tony Strobl's partecipation at "Duck Album" (FC 450);=20
since he's learning to make Ducks, I think that he's not alone,=20
because some expressions are close to Al Hubbard's ones (and Hubbard=20
works at the same comic book). This one is also the first story in=20
which, after Barks, is introduced the Beagle Boys gang (only two guys:=20
176 - 847 and 176 - 840).
That's all, for now. Maybe I missed something. I have a lot of comic=20
books, but not all, so... If you have different ideas...
Bye!
Luca
>(...) there's something I've always
> wondered about. Is:
>=20
> W OS 300-03 20 PM CBu?DD [desc:The fire brigade]
> | de: 59-21+,TGD 149
> | nl: WB.81
>=20
> dated November, 1950, and drawn by Paul Murry, the first non-Barks stor=
y
> featuring Scrooge? There is a Riley Thompson story with Scrooge that
> appeared one month after that in WDC:
>=20
> W WDC 123-04 8 RTh ? GD [app:US,Lucifer]
> [desc:US tries
> | to catch GD's mice]
> | dk: AA51-06,AA70-05*
> | nl: 62-15
> | se: 51-07,70-05
You're right. I'm just "working" on this subject, for the "Gli Altri=20
Paperoni", on ZP.
For who understand italian, here I drop some lines from my article=20
about this, which shall be published in the issue of march:
(...) Paperino e i ladri di bestiame =8F la prima storia in cui Paul=20
Murry disegna il =D2vero=D3 Paperon de=D5 Paperoni, un personaggio che ne=
lla=20
sua lunghissima carriera non incontrer=88 molto spesso, concentrando la=20
maggior parte della sua futura attivit=88 sul mondo di Topolino.
In realt=88 Paul Murry aveva gi=88 disegnato Paperone qualche mese prima,=
=20
con la storia conosciuta in Italia sotto il titolo di Paperino=20
pompiere [The fire brigade], uscita negli Stati Uniti sul comic book=20
=D2Four Color Comics=D3 n.300 del novembre 1950. Non si tratta di una=20
faccenda di poco conto, poich=8E in quella occasione, per la prima volta=20
dopo Carl Barks, altri autori all'opera sui fumetti Disney (Murry e il=20
suo anonimo sceneggiatore) si occupano dell=D5anziano zio di Paperino.=20
Tuttavia, questa arcaica avventura, concepita ad appena un paio d=D5anni=20
dalla creazione di Uncle Scrooge, mostra una serie di incongruenze=20
tali da non rendere affatto credibile quella interpretazione di=20
Paperone. Come si pu=98 agevolmente controllare, consultando l=D5ultima=20
pubblicazione della storia sul n.2 de =D2I Maestri Disney=D3, in Paperino=
=20
pompiere Paperon de=D5 Paperoni non mostra la minima traccia della sua=20
enorme ricchezza, domiciliato com=D5=8F in una malandata casetta di legno=
=20
alla periferia della citt=88. Privo di cilindro e palandrana, non=20
indossa nemmeno le sue tipiche lenti a pince-nez, bens=93 un paio di=20
occhialoni simili a quelli che Murry disegnava in quello stesso=20
periodo per Nonna Papera. Come se non bastasse, le caratteristiche=20
basette di Paperone vengono interpretate come se fossero la=20
conseguenza di una sorta di =D2calvizie=D3, che Murry mostra scopertament=
e=20
nelle vignette in cui Paperone appare di schiena. =20
Le ragioni di queste stranezze sono spiegabili, se valutiamo il fatto=20
che all=D5epoca non circolavano fra gli autori in forza alla Western=20
Printing and Li. Co. dei model sheets con Paperone, tipico personaggio=20
dei fumetti, mentre erano assai diffusi quelli con i personaggi dei=20
disegni animati, creati negli studi cinematografici della Disney.=20
Murry e i suoi colleghi, perci=98, dovevano arrangiarsi traendo spunto=20
dalle storie gi=88 pubblicate, deducendo da esse tutto quanto era=20
possibile. Facendo un po=D5 di calcoli sui tempi necessari per la=20
scrittura di una trama, la sua approvazione, il disegno, la=20
colorazione, il controllo redazionale e la pubblicazione di una=20
storia, si pu=98 ipotizzare che prima di Paperino pompiere, Paperone=20
fosse apparso in appena cinque avventure. E non =8F affatto detto che=20
Murry le conoscesse tutte, n=8E che l=D5anonimo sceneggiatore che aveva=20
scritto le trame tenesse molto in considerazione gli input di Barks.
(...)
=20
> We do not know what story was made first, nor what are the real
> publication dates...=20
Maybe they are conceived in the meantime, but I assume by two=20
different story men (the one of the Riley Thompson story with Scrooge=20
maybe the same of the later Granda story for WDC&S titled "No=20
Trespassing", with the art of Frank McSauvage). In situations like=20
these, we can consider the dates printed on the magazines...
So, Murry is the first (Nov. '50); Thompson follows (Dec. '50). Then=20
we have Murry again (Vacation Parade, Jul. '51), the fourth story is=20
drawn by Bob Moore ("Southern Hospitality", FC 379/ Apr. '52). The=20
Fifth is the Tony Strobl's partecipation at "Duck Album" (FC 450);=20
since he's learning to make Ducks, I think that he's not alone,=20
because some expressions are close to Al Hubbard's ones (and Hubbard=20
works at the same comic book). This one is also the first story in=20
which, after Barks, is introduced the Beagle Boys gang (only two guys:=20
176 - 847 and 176 - 840).
That's all, for now. Maybe I missed something. I have a lot of comic=20
books, but not all, so... If you have different ideas...
Bye!
Luca
Oliver
DC-ROM image size
Message 71 -
1999-01-10 at 03:40:42
Hello
I want to begin scanning splashes for DC-ROM
So it seems the ideal image size is between
700 and 750 pixels in height, as the references
in Frank's site. (a little bit higher)
So before to do this, I want your opinion.
It's for french prints only.
It's for the references only.
It's not for the extras.
Thank you.
Oliv
I want to begin scanning splashes for DC-ROM
So it seems the ideal image size is between
700 and 750 pixels in height, as the references
in Frank's site. (a little bit higher)
So before to do this, I want your opinion.
It's for french prints only.
It's for the references only.
It's not for the extras.
Thank you.
Oliv
Oliver
DC-ROM image size
Message 72 -
1999-01-10 at 03:40:42
Hello
I want to begin scanning splashes for DC-ROM
So it seems the ideal image size is between
700 and 750 pixels in height, as the references
in Frank's site. (a little bit higher)
So before to do this, I want your opinion.
It's for french prints only.
It's for the references only.
It's not for the extras.
Thank you.
Oliv
I want to begin scanning splashes for DC-ROM
So it seems the ideal image size is between
700 and 750 pixels in height, as the references
in Frank's site. (a little bit higher)
So before to do this, I want your opinion.
It's for french prints only.
It's for the references only.
It's not for the extras.
Thank you.
Oliv
Xephyr
Coolest Disney Character
Message 73 -
1999-01-10 at 06:24:27
Halsten Aastebol(?) wrote:
> Even Flood wrote:
> >> Catfoot 9 0.22%
> >
> >So, maybe this reveals my age and senility,
> >but here goes - who in the (Disney) world is Catfoot??
> Francois Willot wrote:
> >He is the fat cat (a villain) in "Chip'n'Dale Rescue Rangers".
Actually, the name of the fat cat villain is, ironically, "Fat Cat" and
not Catfoot, at least in America.
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/fatcat.html
> Harry Fluks wrote:
> >The partner of (Peg Leg/Black/Bad) Pete in many Murry and Tello stories.
> >Also known as Scuttle (and that's the name we chose in our Disney comics
> >Database) or Lafouine (his French name).
>
> Maybe there are two characters by the same name. But in this case Harry is
> right. Catfoot is the long-nosed companion of Black Pete. I didn't know his
> English name and had to look it up. I used the Disney HooZoo list where I
> looked up on Black Pete and Mickey Mouse, but could not find him amongst
> the given confidants and rivals. This was a surprise, since he is rather
> well known. Therefore I had to look in the attached list of character names
> in different languages. Finally I found him, and the only English name
> given was Catfoot (A strange name for him indeed). Of course I should have
> used the Disney Comics Database. Scuttle sounds like a much better name.
In American Disney comics I can find no evidence that Pete's partner, the
one being called Catfoot and Scuttle, ever had a consistent English name.
However, this was discussed here before and it was my impression that the
Disney Comics Database had settled on the name Weasel (probably because it
best described his anthropoid characteristic snout), which is also why I
called him the same in the HooZoo.
Under Pete's profile it says, "...with the nebulous Weasel (a.k.a. Catfoot,
a.k.a. Swifty, etc., etc.) who usually acts as Pete's own lackey (along with
a large ambiguous dogface).
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/pete.html
And under his OWN profile (where he is labelled "Weasel, Pete's Lackey") it
says, "KNOWN ALIASES: Various: Catfoot, Scuttle, Saltspray, Swifty, Slowdraw,
Yardarm etc.)"
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/weasel.html
This is because he has had no regular English name, at least not in America.
And Per does link from his Character listing "Catfoot" to the appropriate
entry in the HooZoo list for "Weasel." I don't know if we can ever figure
out what the REAL English name of Pete's Lackey is unless some story creator
makes an effort to establish one for the English reading audience, like was
done for the French. Even Weasel's physical appearance wasn't always the
same. Sometimes he has just a few (maybe six) whiskers sprouting from his
nose, and at other times Weasel was partnered with a fat scruffy doglike
character (reminiscent of a Beagle Boy without the mask) also under the
command of Pete.
It always amazed me how in most stories which featured one or both of them
with Pete, Pete has an uncanny ability to avoid calling them by name. Even,
when Mickey talks to them directly he seems to never call them by a given
name. On the few ocassions where Pete does name them, again, it is never the
same name as in a previous story, and I can only think of one time when the
fat dog character was named, and then it was "Stinky" or something like that.
Hope that helps.
Maybe we should have a poll amongst ourselves for best, worst, supporting,
etc. characters? What do you think?
Rich Bellacera (xephyr)
> Even Flood wrote:
> >> Catfoot 9 0.22%
> >
> >So, maybe this reveals my age and senility,
> >but here goes - who in the (Disney) world is Catfoot??
> Francois Willot wrote:
> >He is the fat cat (a villain) in "Chip'n'Dale Rescue Rangers".
Actually, the name of the fat cat villain is, ironically, "Fat Cat" and
not Catfoot, at least in America.
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/fatcat.html
> Harry Fluks wrote:
> >The partner of (Peg Leg/Black/Bad) Pete in many Murry and Tello stories.
> >Also known as Scuttle (and that's the name we chose in our Disney comics
> >Database) or Lafouine (his French name).
>
> Maybe there are two characters by the same name. But in this case Harry is
> right. Catfoot is the long-nosed companion of Black Pete. I didn't know his
> English name and had to look it up. I used the Disney HooZoo list where I
> looked up on Black Pete and Mickey Mouse, but could not find him amongst
> the given confidants and rivals. This was a surprise, since he is rather
> well known. Therefore I had to look in the attached list of character names
> in different languages. Finally I found him, and the only English name
> given was Catfoot (A strange name for him indeed). Of course I should have
> used the Disney Comics Database. Scuttle sounds like a much better name.
In American Disney comics I can find no evidence that Pete's partner, the
one being called Catfoot and Scuttle, ever had a consistent English name.
However, this was discussed here before and it was my impression that the
Disney Comics Database had settled on the name Weasel (probably because it
best described his anthropoid characteristic snout), which is also why I
called him the same in the HooZoo.
Under Pete's profile it says, "...with the nebulous Weasel (a.k.a. Catfoot,
a.k.a. Swifty, etc., etc.) who usually acts as Pete's own lackey (along with
a large ambiguous dogface).
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/pete.html
And under his OWN profile (where he is labelled "Weasel, Pete's Lackey") it
says, "KNOWN ALIASES: Various: Catfoot, Scuttle, Saltspray, Swifty, Slowdraw,
Yardarm etc.)"
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/weasel.html
This is because he has had no regular English name, at least not in America.
And Per does link from his Character listing "Catfoot" to the appropriate
entry in the HooZoo list for "Weasel." I don't know if we can ever figure
out what the REAL English name of Pete's Lackey is unless some story creator
makes an effort to establish one for the English reading audience, like was
done for the French. Even Weasel's physical appearance wasn't always the
same. Sometimes he has just a few (maybe six) whiskers sprouting from his
nose, and at other times Weasel was partnered with a fat scruffy doglike
character (reminiscent of a Beagle Boy without the mask) also under the
command of Pete.
It always amazed me how in most stories which featured one or both of them
with Pete, Pete has an uncanny ability to avoid calling them by name. Even,
when Mickey talks to them directly he seems to never call them by a given
name. On the few ocassions where Pete does name them, again, it is never the
same name as in a previous story, and I can only think of one time when the
fat dog character was named, and then it was "Stinky" or something like that.
Hope that helps.
Maybe we should have a poll amongst ourselves for best, worst, supporting,
etc. characters? What do you think?
Rich Bellacera (xephyr)
HorizonHse
Disney comics Digest V99 #4
Message 74 -
1999-01-10 at 09:41:04
hi.
i must have missed something here. why was the "war of the wendigo" banned?
how could gladstone print it without disney's permission, even in the last
issue of wdc&s.
thanks.
bill
i must have missed something here. why was the "war of the wendigo" banned?
how could gladstone print it without disney's permission, even in the last
issue of wdc&s.
thanks.
bill
Søren Krarup Olesen
DC-ROM image size
Message 75 -
1999-01-10 at 13:53:29
oliver wrote:
>
> I want to begin scanning splashes for DC-ROM
> So it seems the ideal image size is between
> 700 and 750 pixels in height, as the references
> in Frank's site. (a little bit higher)
I have a comment on that. Wouldn't it be much better to choose a fixed
scan resolution (e.g. 100 dots per inch) instead of a fixed size on the
screen (700 pixels). I believe that the user of such a DC-ROM would like
to know (see) the actual *sizes* of the comics--well, perhaps not in a
one-to-one ratio, but at least the same ratio always. You know, we are
not scanning playing cards here :-)
S=F8ren
>
> I want to begin scanning splashes for DC-ROM
> So it seems the ideal image size is between
> 700 and 750 pixels in height, as the references
> in Frank's site. (a little bit higher)
I have a comment on that. Wouldn't it be much better to choose a fixed
scan resolution (e.g. 100 dots per inch) instead of a fixed size on the
screen (700 pixels). I believe that the user of such a DC-ROM would like
to know (see) the actual *sizes* of the comics--well, perhaps not in a
one-to-one ratio, but at least the same ratio always. You know, we are
not scanning playing cards here :-)
S=F8ren