Keskustelujen arkisto

Thanks for the article, Luca!

I've read it and understand it even if the accented characters were
changed by unreadable ones.

I talked about the Murry story too in a "Picsou" article one year ago,
published in the "CBD", and noticed that his personality was very
different from Barks' ideas (except for "Christmas on Bear Mountain").
He is bad tempered and shrewish in the Murry story, he even wishs that
Donald's house will burn (that's what I have in the French reprint).

> So, Murry is the first (Nov. '50); Thompson follows (Dec. '50). Then
> we have Murry again (Vacation Parade, Jul. '51), the fourth story is
> drawn by Bob Moore ("Southern Hospitality", FC 379/ Apr. '52). The
> Fifth is the Tony Strobl's partecipation at "Duck Album" (FC 450);
> since he's learning to make Ducks, I think that he's not alone,
> because some expressions are close to Al Hubbard's ones (and Hubbard
> works at the same comic book). This one is also the first story in
> which, after Barks, is introduced the Beagle Boys gang (only two guys:
> 176 - 847 and 176 - 840).

Interesting. We might as well try to find the first non-Barks
appearances of other Barks' creations, like Gyro Gearloose (by DeLara?),
Gladstone, etc.

I've found another early US appearance in:

W WDC 127-04 8 RTh ? GD [app:DD,DA,US]
[desc:new-fangled
| appliances]
| de: 52-04
| nl: 89-09

from April 1951.

Bye!

Francois

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Hi everybody!

I'm delurking for the first time in well over a year to let you know I'm
still alive, to answer a question, and to ask one myself.

BILL:
> i must have missed something here. why was the "war of the wendigo" banned?

Probably because a censor thought "Gee, I haven't censored anything
in a while, better ban a story or two so my boss will think I'm doing
a good job."

Seriously, I believe the "reason" was the Indians that all look alike.

> how could gladstone print it without disney's permission, even in the last
> issue of wdc&s.

I don't know the details of comic printing, but I doubt that printing
a story _without_ Disney's permission is that much different from
printing one _with_ permission. ;-)

I must say I'm sorry about what happened to Gladstone, althought it wasn't
exactly unexpected. Is it possible to get back issues from Gladstone or
the Bruce Hamilton Company? There are still some back issues and albums
I would really like to get.

Fredrik

>> Harry Fluks wrote:
>> >The partner of (Peg Leg/Black/Bad) Pete in many Murry and Tello stories.
>> >Also known as Scuttle (and that's the name we chose in our Disney comics
>> >Database) or Lafouine (his French name).
>>

I wrote:
>> Maybe there are two characters by the same name. But in this case Harry is
>> right. Catfoot is the long-nosed companion of Black Pete. I didn't know his
>> English name and had to look it up. I used the Disney HooZoo list where I
>> looked up on Black Pete and Mickey Mouse, but could not find him amongst
>> the given confidants and rivals. This was a surprise, since he is rather
>> well known. Therefore I had to look in the attached list of character names
>> in different languages. Finally I found him, and the only English name
>> given was Catfoot (A strange name for him indeed). Of course I should have
>> used the Disney Comics Database. Scuttle sounds like a much better name.
>

Rich Bellacera wrote:
>In American Disney comics I can find no evidence that Pete's partner, the
>one being called Catfoot and Scuttle, ever had a consistent English name.
>However, this was discussed here before and it was my impression that the
>Disney Comics Database had settled on the name Weasel (probably because it
>best described his anthropoid characteristic snout), which is also why I
>called him the same in the HooZoo.
>

Ahem..., well, eh.. I have to admit I saw the name Weasel there and
immediately ruled it out as not being the character I looked for. Without
reading further or checking what he looked like. Conclusions that are
jumped at will most often be wrong. No exception in this case. Actually the
name Weasel made me think of a character called "Viggo Vesel" in Norwegian.
Viggo Vesel is, of course, a weasel, but now I recall that this character
appears in Chip'n Dale stories (I think), not together with Black Pete.

To make the confusion absolute, I should mention that
Catfoot/Scuttle/Weasel has no regular name in Norwegian either. He is just
referred to as "Skaftetryne" which is a description of his looks. It means
something like "handlemug", mug being vulgar for face. "Skaftetryne" was
the name used in the newspaper.

Halsten

Rich:

> In American Disney comics I can find no evidence that Pete's partner, the
> one being called Catfoot and Scuttle, ever had a consistent English name.
> However, this was discussed here before and it was my impression that the
> Disney Comics Database had settled on the name Weasel

I called him Weasel at first, because of his inconsistent name. But some
time ago David explained (I think) that Scuttle is his name in the
"official" Egmont list (they use this name in their English scripts), so we
changed his name to Scuttle in the Database, too.

--Harry.

At 11:22 11.01.99 +0200, Kriton Kyrimis wrote:
>BILL:
>
>> i must have missed something here. why was the "war of the wendigo" banned?
>
>Because someone at Disney thought that showing all those identical
>pygmy indians would be offensive to native Americans, as if the story's
>message had been "all indians look alike"!!!
>
>> how could gladstone print it without disney's permission, even in the last
>> issue of wdc&s.
>
>I suppose because the worst thing that Disney could do would be to
>revoke their license!
>--
> Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
> (WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
>-----
>"The golden rule is that those with the gold make the rules."
>-----
>

Hello!

Is there something wrong with the mailing list? I have not received any
messages since the one cited above.

Halsten

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> > Is there something wrong with the mailing list? I have not received any
> > messages since the one cited above.
>
> Neither have I. Except yours, that is 8-). Let's see if we can make a digest
> out of these two messages...

I was wondering if the list was very quiet, or if there was some wrong
on the maliing list too.

Has someone seen the last Maestri Disney issue? What about that famous
article on the time-machine series? Is it very good or just extremely
interesting? :-)

Francois

FRANCOIS:

>Has someone seen the last Maestri Disney issue? What about that famous
>article on the time-machine series? Is it very good or just extremely
>interesting? :-)

It is both very good and extremely interesting :-))

Well, actually, it says what Marco had told us it would say... I don't think
that anybody cut anything out of it.

and.. you meant "latest", didn't you?? :-))) (that's a mistake I always
make... at last I've managed in spotting someone else :-)

PS. Francois, you got my stuff?

Francesco

Interesting features on issue #112 of "Zio Paperone", on sale today.

Lidia kept her promise, and printed a 25-line apology titled "Sorry,
David!" explaining how they got David Gerstain's name erroneously printed
several times as "GerNstein", while David started feeling "a pain in his
heart" for this. She promised it will NEVER happen any more!

A new section, "Gli altri Paperoni" started out, printing two nice stories
by Jack Bradbury. This chance to talk about Disney authors different from
the usual bunch of three-four is VERYYYYY nice. Congratulation, Luca! I
hope you'll also be able to talk about SCRIPTERS and not only artists.

And last (in the sense that it is being printed in the LAST pages of the
magazine!) comes a Chronology of the stories by Don Rosa! Not VERY updated
(AR 107 was printed on "ZP 110" and that's not reported...; and a note to
AR 103 says that "Gladstone is currently the American publisher of Disney
Comics"...) but a Good Thing altogether.
Ah - and a tiny tiny note in the first page says <special thanks to Harry
Fluks whose chronology, that appeared on the book "Don Rosa e il
rinascimento Disneyano", has been the starting point for this "reasoned
chronology">. So, Harry, you are getting famous among Italian readers too!
(At least among the not-so-much-far-sighted ones...) ;-)

Marco

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