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Archontis,

There is indeed a D.U.C.K. in the page.

Hint: Try to focus on dear old Cornelius.

Best.

Didier

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Archontis resent a message and wrote

> I originally sent this last Tuesday; wonder what happened to it? (Per?)

A couple of messages never appeared in a digest. Sorry about that!
The other message was by Luca Boschi and is included here. Thanks to
Botto Armando who alerted me to this fact!

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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 01:08:02 +0100
From: Luca Boschi <(Email removed)>
To: Botto Armando <(Email removed)>
Cc: (Email removed)
Subject: Re: Reprints & Tesori & Maestri Disney (Luca?)

Hi, Armando and all!

> >> Maybe some Italian list members - and occasional contributors to Disney
> publications ;-) - can provide their opinion on the above, or even make
> Disney/Italia sensible to the issue?

I know thar reprints of old stories should make happier a lot of new
fans, and when I can I suggest to follow this line, as you know
(maybe). For this reason, MD has published stories (like the last ones
by Massimo De Vita), thar the same authors dislike, but that may be
more interesting for the readership.

> Indeed... Which also brings to my mind a question I'd like to ask Luca about
> the "Tesori" book, which I bought some days ago.
> The book contains both the English and the Italian version of four Barks
> stories (Riddle of the Red Hat, Victory Garden, Gorilla, and Horsing around
> with History), with very interesting introductory notes to each story,
> mostly written by Luca (who, however, didn't write the intro to "Horsing
> around" - which maybe explains why no mention at all is made of poor William
> Van Horn!).

Yes, so it is! Indeed, an article on him is planned to be written in
one of the next "Zio Paperone" issues, after the Summer, with a nice
story by him on Sccrooge.

> Speaking about "Riddle of the Red Hat", Luca states that Italians had to
> wait nine years to see the story (first reprinted in Albo d'Oro 64/1954).
> However, my sources date the Albo d'Oro #64 to 1947... is that correct?

Yes, You're right.

> Maybe the 1954 one was a reprint of the original Albo d'Oro?

Yes, it's only a reprint. It happened many times in that period.
"Tesori" is a new title for a book just printed for the first edition
of the Cartoomix Convention, in Milano. Only some mistakes has been
corrected, but some "contractions" survived. The one you write about
is not the only one. I remember for example that "Albi tascabili di
Topolino" has been confused with "Tascabilone". And there are around
40 years of dinstance between the two publications...

> Luca, has something similar happened to your article about the Bermuda
> Triangle in IMD #13? I suspect you wrote something about the Triangle's far
> past, but it got edited out... If that's correct, could you tell us what was
> cut from your original version?

Yes, but this time it doesn't concern Disney informations, so I think
that the article's final version is quite good. Indeed, also some
sentences on Eega Beeva were cut. For this reason the article ends in
a quite silly way, speking about his head's dimension. But maybe I
write too much...

> While we're speaking of IMD: after the forthcoming Scarpa issue (I'm looking
> forward to the "Fondazione De' Paperoni" story - wonderful choice!), are
> they going to start a third round of the "Magnificent Seven" (Carpi, Murry,
> Bottaro, Cavazzano, Gottfredson, De Vita, Scarpa), or is some other
> "Maestro" being taken into account?

Well, I think you can send your requests to Disney. It seems that also
this time the seven artists shall be chosen. But maybe not Murry.

> Rota

Yesterday I spoke about this with Rota for almost an hour. But nothing
has been decided yet.

> what about "one-shots" for people like
> Asteriti, Gatto, P.L. De Vita, Gil Turner, Al Hubbard, even Bordini and
> Perego (though I know most people on this List are horrified at the sole
> thought...)?

NOT ME. I'd like to do a book on THE BEST Perego. I did a project on
P. L. De Vita, and I'd be absolutely delighted to do a book on Hubbard
or Turner.

Ciao!
Luca

Somewhere in the date range of 1953-1963 I read a full length comic which
featured Mickey Mouse in Hawaii. This was in England.
Could you please help me identify which comic this was and where I might buy
a copy?

John Bennett

Hello.

My domain at http://sko.nu will expire within a few days. Eventhough I
had a nice time at Niue Island where the sun always shines and all, I am
moving home to Denmark. The new address is

http://raptus.dk

The site is in Danish, but Scandinavians should be able to understand
it, and besides, some interesting Italian stuff might be found if you
click on the "Italiensk Galler=ECa" button. If in doubt "Raptus" equals
"Ludvig" (van Drake) in Danish, but of course raptus also have some
other meanings which may not be that irrelevant after all.

S=F8ren

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From: "Dr. Archontis Pantsios" re: PICSOU pin-up:
>>>Ah, yes! And if one holds the drawing up-side-down, spotting the D.U.C.K.
would be immensely easier! That one was a toughie!

Yes, that was *my* clue to you in the ML message that was lost. I wrote
"rotate the magazine 180 degrees so the dedication will be easier to read.
Be sure to rotate around an imaginary center-point. If you rotate the pin-up
page around a vertical centerline the result will be that you will be
looking at the front cover and you will be frustrated. And silly."
But when that message was lost and after Didier narrowed the search area
down to Cornelius Coot, I figgered any further clues would make it too
simple, so I let his clue stand alone.

DON:

>Yes, Virginia, there *is* a dedication in the new PICSOU pin-up.

Huh?!..."Virginia"? As far as I know, my name is *STILL* Archontis! :-))

Cheers,

Archontis

LUCA:

>I know thar reprints of old stories should make happier a lot of new
>fans, and when I can I suggest to follow this line, as you know
>(maybe). For this reason, MD has published stories (like the last ones
>by Massimo De Vita), thar the same authors dislike, but that may be
>more interesting for the readership.

Wow! You mean to say that Massimo De Vita is not that fond of "Il Triangolo
delle Bermude" or of "Le Zanzare Za-Za", or of "Il Segreto della
'Gioconda'"? Now, I really can't say that I blame him too much as far as "Le
Zanzare Za-Za" is concerned. Given his so many great stories that appeared
in the 80s, I can't see why IMD would choose to publish "Za-Za", other than
simply to offer a glimpse at a very early, "crude" De Vita, that borrowed
heavily from Barks' style.

His "Il Triangolo" sort of falls in his "transitional" period: his Mickey
from that story reminded me a lot of the classic Scarpa, and even the plot
by A. Castelli had many Scarpian influences, e.g. a first part set in Mickey
City unfolding the mystery, and a second part set in an "exotic" (in this
case futuristic) world. At the same time, however, someone can detect a few
elements that would make De Vita's art style so distinctive in only a few years.

And finally, "Gioconda" does fall in that "mature" De Vita period of the
mid-80s, which happens to be my personal favorite.

LUCA TO FRANCESCO

>> While we're speaking of IMD: after the forthcoming Scarpa issue are
>> they going to start a third round of the "Magnificent Seven" (Carpi, Murry,
>> Bottaro, Cavazzano, Gottfredson, De Vita, Scarpa), or is some other
>> "Maestro" being taken into account?
>
>Well, I think you can send your requests to Disney. It seems that also
>this time the seven artists shall be chosen. But maybe not Murry.

"Maybe not Murry"? I hope not! Murry may not have written a single story on
his own, but I believe he's a legend in his own right. Plus, at the end of
the story index in all issues, one reads "continued in the next issue
dedicated to ___________". That makes someone expect the continuation of
this cycle for some time to come...

"Send your requests to Disney?" Is some particular person hiding behind
"Disney" where our requests may be directed?

>> Rota
>
>Yesterday I spoke about this with Rota for almost an hour. But nothing
>has been decided yet.

As much as I'd love to see an IMD issue on Rota featuring various articles
and such, I can't think of a special story to go along that ZP hasn't
printed in the last 3-4 years. There are some yet un-reprinted Rota stories
in ZP, but most (all?) of Rota's truly great works have only recently
appeared in ZP, right?

>> what about "one-shots" for people like
>> Asteriti, Gatto, P.L. De Vita, Gil Turner, Al Hubbard, even Bordini and
>> Perego (though I know most people on this List are horrified at the sole
>> thought...)?
>
>NOT ME. I'd like to do a book on THE BEST Perego. I did a project on
>P. L. De Vita, and I'd be absolutely delighted to do a book on Hubbard
>or Turner.

And I'd say AMEN to that! It's not easy to find collection of stories by
such artists these days.

Cheers,

Archontis

I've been away from the list for a few weeks, and one thing in particular
caught my notice when trying to catch up. I think there was some discussion
about how American writers might "slack off" in their efforts to write
advanced dialog, knowing their stories might not see print in their own
country (or indeed, their own language) in any foreseeable future.

Well, as the Swedish translator, I strongly advise against any such
tendencies. Even if we knew for sure that Disney comics never again would be
published in any English-speaking country (which I certainly hope, and
believe, they will), the translator's task is immensely more inspiring if
the source dialog is witty and well-written. Sure, I miss out on a hidden
reference from time to time, or fail to translate a clever word-play. But
overall, when challenged by a good script, I'm sure chances are that I do a
better job.

Specifically, Don Rosa's upcoming "Kalevala" story was discussed. I would
very much enjoy and appreciate if the proper meter was used, when
appropriate, like Barks and Rosa did in their respective Peeweegah stories.
(Based on Longfellow, of course, who in turn based it on Kalevala, I guess.)
I still remember how much fun I had translating "War of the Wendigo" some
years ago, trying to keep the Peeweegahs' dialog as close to the "Runometer"
as I could, just like in Don's original script. (I also fondly recall that
my text got through the editing process quite OK on this occasion. Only in
one spot, I believe, was a word deleted or altered, crippling the meter.)

Of course, I could do my best to put in the Runometer, perhaps according to
Don's instructions, even if his own script didn't use it. But I'd definitely
feel more encouraged if it were there to start with. (I hasten to add that I
haven't seen any part of Don's story yet, so I have no idea when and how the
meter might be used. But if it's anything like "Wendigo", I know I'll like it!)

While I'm at it, a "private" message to all the writers and scripters out
there: If at any time you feel there's something special in any of your
stories, like a literary reference, a re-used character, or something else
that a translator might need to know about; please don't hesitate to contact
me in private email ((Email removed)) when you know the story is being
scheduled in the Egmont weeklies. My ambition is to always ask the writer
when there's something I don't understand, but in practice, I'm usually too
much behind my deadlines to really have the time. (Plus, of course, I don't
have everybody's email address.)

Even if it turns out that I can't use that special name or gag in the
Swedish text for some reason or another, I always want to know as much as
possible about the writer's intention. So I appreciate anything you might
want to tell me about your stories, even unsolicited hints.

On the other hand, if it turns out I alter your dialog more than you
expected at times, I do apologize; and assure you that I try to have a
reason whenever that happens. If you don't agree with that reason, perhaps
in another language your story will come out more to your liking... and if
you don't read Swedish, maybe you'll never know the difference!

Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden