This is my first posting to this mailing list, and so far I've been very
impressed. The question I had was about characters. I'm basically interested
in Disney short subjects; I manage a website dedicated to them. However, I've
been told by Rich Bellacera that some of the minor characters in the shorts
were carried over into the comics; characters like Giddy Goat and Percy Pig. I
was wondering if anyone else knoew of any other of the minor characters that
got their start in the shorts but went on to a better life in the comics.
Yours,
Patrick Malone
(Email removed)
http://www.disneyshorts.org
Author
Topic: 199902
(198 messages)
Eutychus55
Disney Comics Characters
Message 166 -
1999-02-23 at 03:21:40
Gpantzer
Rosa in Boston
Message 167 -
1999-02-23 at 06:49:25
On Sunday (2/21/99), Don Rosa was a guest at a comic book show held
in Boston. Maybe because of dire predictions that it could be the last
chance to see Don in this country, a "large" number of ML members in
the New England area showed up. A number of non-ML fans came as well.
Don said it was possibly the largest gathering of ML people he has ever
seen (in the USA).
Bound by our common interest and admiration of Don's work, I felt at
ease with everyone and it was as if we all had known each other for a
long time. There were many large and small group discussions as we
asked Don questions and listened to his stories and opinions. As usual,
he gave 110% to the fans, refusing to even take a small break for some
lunch. Someone made a comment about the "groupies" hanging around
Don and we took it as a compliment.
One repeated subject was the dwindling number of fans/buyers of the
duck titles in this country. This was a mixed blessing for us at the show.
While this must be one factor in the demise of Gladstone, it allowed us
total access to Don for hours. When Don is mobbed in other countries,
I assume that the fans are herded by him in a "keep the line moving"
manner (I meant to ask Don about this). At least they will continue to
have future stories available so I envy them. Well, if this was my last
visit with Keno Don Rosa, it was a fantastic day and a story-(comic)book
ending for all us fans who made it there.
in Boston. Maybe because of dire predictions that it could be the last
chance to see Don in this country, a "large" number of ML members in
the New England area showed up. A number of non-ML fans came as well.
Don said it was possibly the largest gathering of ML people he has ever
seen (in the USA).
Bound by our common interest and admiration of Don's work, I felt at
ease with everyone and it was as if we all had known each other for a
long time. There were many large and small group discussions as we
asked Don questions and listened to his stories and opinions. As usual,
he gave 110% to the fans, refusing to even take a small break for some
lunch. Someone made a comment about the "groupies" hanging around
Don and we took it as a compliment.
One repeated subject was the dwindling number of fans/buyers of the
duck titles in this country. This was a mixed blessing for us at the show.
While this must be one factor in the demise of Gladstone, it allowed us
total access to Don for hours. When Don is mobbed in other countries,
I assume that the fans are herded by him in a "keep the line moving"
manner (I meant to ask Don about this). At least they will continue to
have future stories available so I envy them. Well, if this was my last
visit with Keno Don Rosa, it was a fantastic day and a story-(comic)book
ending for all us fans who made it there.
Ivarc
Danish - Onkel Joakim?
Message 168 -
1999-02-23 at 09:58:34
Hello Fellow Quackers.
After Loong time lurking a comment might be in order.
TO Stefan DIOS
<My question is: Did Uncle Scrooge always have
<the name "Onkel Joakim / Joakim von And"; and in what issues were his
<earliest two or three appearances? I'm not only looking for Barks storie=
s,
I Checked my Anders And collection, which is not complete - but I have th=
e
faximile reprints from 49-51
In Denmark AA didnt start printing until march 1949, so I guess the
scandinavian market was out of sync.
Uncle Scrooge has allways been named "Onkel Joakim" or "Joakim Von And"
(Scrooge Mc Duck)
His first appearence was
AA49-06d W WDC 98-02 10 CB DD (- p=E5 r=E6vejagt)
And then again in
AA51-08c W WDC 124-02 10 CB CB DD Rdk:Pengesorger
[app:HDL,US]
and
AA51-09c W WDC 126-02 10 CB CB DD Rdk:Skillinger fra skyern=
e
[app:HDL,US,GL]
His first solo appearence (With his own name on the title )was:
[1954] SOLO 8c W OS 386-02 32 CB CB US Den snedige Onkel
Joakim
During the mid fifties he was a rare guest with many one pagers and often
drawn by others like:
AA56-03f W PP 6-03 10 TS VLo US
(I think TS=3D Tony Strobl)
It was not until 1957 we got US first Carl Barks app in:
AA57-26g W OS 178-02 10 CB CB DD Rdk:Jul paa Bjoernebjerge=
t
[part:1]
(xmas on bear mountain)
So Stefan I hope this info is what you are looking for - otherwise dont
hesitate to ask.
What do you need the information for ? - Are you doing something for the
Danish duck 50 aniversary ?
;-) Ivar Cavanagh, Denmark
After Loong time lurking a comment might be in order.
TO Stefan DIOS
<My question is: Did Uncle Scrooge always have
<the name "Onkel Joakim / Joakim von And"; and in what issues were his
<earliest two or three appearances? I'm not only looking for Barks storie=
s,
I Checked my Anders And collection, which is not complete - but I have th=
e
faximile reprints from 49-51
In Denmark AA didnt start printing until march 1949, so I guess the
scandinavian market was out of sync.
Uncle Scrooge has allways been named "Onkel Joakim" or "Joakim Von And"
(Scrooge Mc Duck)
His first appearence was
AA49-06d W WDC 98-02 10 CB DD (- p=E5 r=E6vejagt)
And then again in
AA51-08c W WDC 124-02 10 CB CB DD Rdk:Pengesorger
[app:HDL,US]
and
AA51-09c W WDC 126-02 10 CB CB DD Rdk:Skillinger fra skyern=
e
[app:HDL,US,GL]
His first solo appearence (With his own name on the title )was:
[1954] SOLO 8c W OS 386-02 32 CB CB US Den snedige Onkel
Joakim
During the mid fifties he was a rare guest with many one pagers and often
drawn by others like:
AA56-03f W PP 6-03 10 TS VLo US
(I think TS=3D Tony Strobl)
It was not until 1957 we got US first Carl Barks app in:
AA57-26g W OS 178-02 10 CB CB DD Rdk:Jul paa Bjoernebjerge=
t
[part:1]
(xmas on bear mountain)
So Stefan I hope this info is what you are looking for - otherwise dont
hesitate to ask.
What do you need the information for ? - Are you doing something for the
Danish duck 50 aniversary ?
;-) Ivar Cavanagh, Denmark
Botto Armando
Python in A Little Something Special
Message 169 -
1999-02-23 at 18:04:23
ME> How did other translators deal with the passage in question? (Art thou
there, Stefan?)
STEFAN> My honest answer is that I don't have a clue to what you're talking
about. [snip] My first guess would be that I tried to translated it more or
less literally, unless I thought it somehow didn't fit into the context
... which confirms my original idea: in the English version, the Python
reference doesn't stick out as a sore thumb (as it does in the Italian
translation), otherwise Stefan *would* have thought it didn't fit in the
context... However, the passage I'm referring to is located in page 7 of the
story, when Magica appears in front of the Beagle Boys: a rough
back-translation from Italian to English might be the following:
BB: "It's that witch from Italy!"
MDS: "I'm a *sorceress*, you ignorant!"
BB: "You are a *witch*! Not only do you weigh as a duck! You *are* a duck!"
Strange... Now that I look at it in my pseudo-English, it doesn't sound as
awkward as it is in Italian, after all... ;-))
Well, could anybody provide some help about the matter?
PAOLO CASTAGNO (RE: I Maestri Disney)
>you guys at Disney Italia, why don't you make a monthy publication of it?
14 months to wait for each Scarpa issue is a little bit too much time to
wait!
VERY well said, Paolo!
Ciao,
Armando
there, Stefan?)
STEFAN> My honest answer is that I don't have a clue to what you're talking
about. [snip] My first guess would be that I tried to translated it more or
less literally, unless I thought it somehow didn't fit into the context
... which confirms my original idea: in the English version, the Python
reference doesn't stick out as a sore thumb (as it does in the Italian
translation), otherwise Stefan *would* have thought it didn't fit in the
context... However, the passage I'm referring to is located in page 7 of the
story, when Magica appears in front of the Beagle Boys: a rough
back-translation from Italian to English might be the following:
BB: "It's that witch from Italy!"
MDS: "I'm a *sorceress*, you ignorant!"
BB: "You are a *witch*! Not only do you weigh as a duck! You *are* a duck!"
Strange... Now that I look at it in my pseudo-English, it doesn't sound as
awkward as it is in Italian, after all... ;-))
Well, could anybody provide some help about the matter?
PAOLO CASTAGNO (RE: I Maestri Disney)
>you guys at Disney Italia, why don't you make a monthy publication of it?
14 months to wait for each Scarpa issue is a little bit too much time to
wait!
VERY well said, Paolo!
Ciao,
Armando
Osias 2099
subscribe
Message 170 -
1999-02-23 at 18:51:57
Hello, is there anyone here?
--
Osias, de Libera Cielo, Latveria.
--
Osias, de Libera Cielo, Latveria.
Michael Naiman
Carl's BD
Message 171 -
1999-02-23 at 22:27:49
Less than 30 days until I mail Carl's birthday greetings!
I'm sure he'll enjoy hearing from everyone !!
Send me your e-mails or cards.......
Thanks
Michael
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I'm sure he'll enjoy hearing from everyone !!
Send me your e-mails or cards.......
Thanks
Michael
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Eta Beta
Scarpa page LAST BALABOO updated
Message 172 -
1999-02-24 at 01:33:10
Hello everybody -
Just dropped by to tell you about the long awaited
(by me, that is... ;-) update of my web page dedicated
to Romano Scarpa, "The Last Balaboo" , at
http://members.xoom.com/eega/scarpa/balaboo.html
check it out, and drop me a line if you like :-)
Cheers
Eta Beta
Just dropped by to tell you about the long awaited
(by me, that is... ;-) update of my web page dedicated
to Romano Scarpa, "The Last Balaboo" , at
http://members.xoom.com/eega/scarpa/balaboo.html
check it out, and drop me a line if you like :-)
Cheers
Eta Beta
Teme (www.Conk.Com/world/teme)
AA index?
Message 173 -
1999-02-24 at 03:26:34
Hi all,
I was wondering does anyone know of a index that contains finnish Aku
Ankka (or at least those AA's with Rosa in them)?
sorry for contributing only to the 'questions' department
Teme
I was wondering does anyone know of a index that contains finnish Aku
Ankka (or at least those AA's with Rosa in them)?
sorry for contributing only to the 'questions' department
Teme
Paolo Belardinelli
About PK again
Message 174 -
1999-02-24 at 15:21:49
Francesco Spreafico wrote:
>I have really gotta say that there are very few things drawn *worse* than
>PKNA's issue 0... I *hate* Lavoradori's art, I consider it one of the
lowest
>points in Disney comics (nothing personal :-)... thanks God they had
>Sciarrone on number 0/2 and that was really great.
I don't think Lavoradori's PKNA issue #O is so bad. IMHO this is a kind of
post-classic art, it has some elements of baroque style: pathos and
emphasis, realized in strange and motion-stop frame. All of theese traits
are easy to see if you look at PKOne reprint of #0 issue .
This is an original drawing size book of PKNA #0, 0/2 and 0/3 in a limited
series, with no coloring.You can see a very interesting mix of dark and
light tone, used in the ink and in the pencil line too. He probably used a
soft pencil.
All the post classic and baroque artists have more problems in finding a
deep reason than in realizing their ideas with skilful hands.
In #0/2 Sciarrone used a more traditional draw style and framing.
Francesco, do you mean that you are a strong lover of classic line only?
I just noted a kind of antiquarian and conservative mind in this list! ;-)
But I really hate thoose plots. I dream about this new Disney style with
the old characters (Gyro, Scrooge, The 313 car and so on).
The italian creators were probably too lazy in thinking that a new project
should move anyway in an entire new world, an easy to fit scene after all.
It's easier to make a new duck world than redrawing, adapting it, the old
one when it had italian parents like Scarpa and Cavazzano.
Cheers
Paolo B.
I agree with Castagno, what a great name!
You can call me Il Bela too,
my family nickname, and my e-mail name.
(Email removed)
>I have really gotta say that there are very few things drawn *worse* than
>PKNA's issue 0... I *hate* Lavoradori's art, I consider it one of the
lowest
>points in Disney comics (nothing personal :-)... thanks God they had
>Sciarrone on number 0/2 and that was really great.
I don't think Lavoradori's PKNA issue #O is so bad. IMHO this is a kind of
post-classic art, it has some elements of baroque style: pathos and
emphasis, realized in strange and motion-stop frame. All of theese traits
are easy to see if you look at PKOne reprint of #0 issue .
This is an original drawing size book of PKNA #0, 0/2 and 0/3 in a limited
series, with no coloring.You can see a very interesting mix of dark and
light tone, used in the ink and in the pencil line too. He probably used a
soft pencil.
All the post classic and baroque artists have more problems in finding a
deep reason than in realizing their ideas with skilful hands.
In #0/2 Sciarrone used a more traditional draw style and framing.
Francesco, do you mean that you are a strong lover of classic line only?
I just noted a kind of antiquarian and conservative mind in this list! ;-)
But I really hate thoose plots. I dream about this new Disney style with
the old characters (Gyro, Scrooge, The 313 car and so on).
The italian creators were probably too lazy in thinking that a new project
should move anyway in an entire new world, an easy to fit scene after all.
It's easier to make a new duck world than redrawing, adapting it, the old
one when it had italian parents like Scarpa and Cavazzano.
Cheers
Paolo B.
I agree with Castagno, what a great name!
You can call me Il Bela too,
my family nickname, and my e-mail name.
(Email removed)
Francesco Spreafico
about PK again
Message 175 -
1999-02-24 at 19:16:02
Il Bela :-) wrote:
>I don't think Lavoradori's PKNA issue #O is so bad. IMHO this is a kind of
>post-classic art, it has some elements of baroque style: pathos and
>emphasis, realized in strange and motion-stop frame. All of theese traits
>are easy to see if you look at PKOne reprint of #0 issue .
>This is an original drawing size book of PKNA #0, 0/2 and 0/3 in a limited
>series, with no coloring.You can see a very interesting mix of dark and
>light tone, used in the ink and in the pencil line too. He probably used a
>soft pencil.
>All the post classic and baroque artists have more problems in finding a
>deep reason than in realizing their ideas with skilful hands.
>In #0/2 Sciarrone used a more traditional draw style and framing.
>Francesco, do you mean that you are a strong lover of classic line only?
YES DEFINITELY! :-) I don't want these guys to come and try their
post-classic (or what you call it :-) stuff to *my* characters and spoil'em
like that.. as I said before here and elsewhere, Lavoradori's Donald IS NOT
Donald... you can call *it* whatever you wanna call it, but NOT Donald....
it's' just a crooked little... thing...
>I just noted a kind of antiquarian and conservative mind in this list! ;-)
Might be, but I think it's just a kind of love we've got for *our*
characters.
If Picasso had made Disney comics, they would have sucked anyway, no matter
how great Picasso might have been
Sciarrone in 0/2 did a *wonderful* job, especially on Lyla whom he actually
created. And that is what we might call *Disney-style* even though I have to
admit I don't like that term... let's all it "Gottfredson/Barks/Scarpa
style...
And so usually does Silvia Ziche.
I'm not saying everybody's style's gotta be identical to the old ones... at
all. Just look at Don Rosa's Art. It's *new*, it's different from all
classics but his Donald IS Donald... I don't know exactly why... probably
because he loves *his* characters... while I have strong doubts about whose
characters most young Italian "artists" love...
Francesco
>I don't think Lavoradori's PKNA issue #O is so bad. IMHO this is a kind of
>post-classic art, it has some elements of baroque style: pathos and
>emphasis, realized in strange and motion-stop frame. All of theese traits
>are easy to see if you look at PKOne reprint of #0 issue .
>This is an original drawing size book of PKNA #0, 0/2 and 0/3 in a limited
>series, with no coloring.You can see a very interesting mix of dark and
>light tone, used in the ink and in the pencil line too. He probably used a
>soft pencil.
>All the post classic and baroque artists have more problems in finding a
>deep reason than in realizing their ideas with skilful hands.
>In #0/2 Sciarrone used a more traditional draw style and framing.
>Francesco, do you mean that you are a strong lover of classic line only?
YES DEFINITELY! :-) I don't want these guys to come and try their
post-classic (or what you call it :-) stuff to *my* characters and spoil'em
like that.. as I said before here and elsewhere, Lavoradori's Donald IS NOT
Donald... you can call *it* whatever you wanna call it, but NOT Donald....
it's' just a crooked little... thing...
>I just noted a kind of antiquarian and conservative mind in this list! ;-)
Might be, but I think it's just a kind of love we've got for *our*
characters.
If Picasso had made Disney comics, they would have sucked anyway, no matter
how great Picasso might have been
Sciarrone in 0/2 did a *wonderful* job, especially on Lyla whom he actually
created. And that is what we might call *Disney-style* even though I have to
admit I don't like that term... let's all it "Gottfredson/Barks/Scarpa
style...
And so usually does Silvia Ziche.
I'm not saying everybody's style's gotta be identical to the old ones... at
all. Just look at Don Rosa's Art. It's *new*, it's different from all
classics but his Donald IS Donald... I don't know exactly why... probably
because he loves *his* characters... while I have strong doubts about whose
characters most young Italian "artists" love...
Francesco
Tom Peaco
Boston Convention Pictures
Message 176 -
1999-02-25 at 02:00:43
This is my first posting to this mail list although I've been lurking for
half a year now. I was one of the lucky ones to attend the Boston
convention and meet Don Rosa. I took a few pictures which I've posted on
the web in case anyone is interested in them. They'll be there for about a
month and can be found at:
http://www.exploremaine.com/~tpeaco/1d990221.JPG
http://www.exploremaine.com/~tpeaco/2d990221.JPG
http://www.exploremaine.com/~tpeaco/3d990221.JPG
http://www.exploremaine.com/~tpeaco/gp990221.JPG
The first three are of Don Rosa working on his drawings while the last one
is a group picture of most of us loyal duck fans (or groupies as Gary
Pantzer mentioned).
In the group photo, from left to right, are Gary Pantzer, Kelly Tedford
(leaning forward), Tom Peaco (in back), Bob Kass (leaning forward), Don
Rosa (seated), unknown person #1, Frank DiCapua, Cecilia Cappaiello,
unknown person #2, and unknown person #3. Two of the unknown people are
Kevin Hall and Robert Miller but, unfortunately,I can't put their names to
their pictures. Not pictured is Don Choi.
tom
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half a year now. I was one of the lucky ones to attend the Boston
convention and meet Don Rosa. I took a few pictures which I've posted on
the web in case anyone is interested in them. They'll be there for about a
month and can be found at:
http://www.exploremaine.com/~tpeaco/1d990221.JPG
http://www.exploremaine.com/~tpeaco/2d990221.JPG
http://www.exploremaine.com/~tpeaco/3d990221.JPG
http://www.exploremaine.com/~tpeaco/gp990221.JPG
The first three are of Don Rosa working on his drawings while the last one
is a group picture of most of us loyal duck fans (or groupies as Gary
Pantzer mentioned).
In the group photo, from left to right, are Gary Pantzer, Kelly Tedford
(leaning forward), Tom Peaco (in back), Bob Kass (leaning forward), Don
Rosa (seated), unknown person #1, Frank DiCapua, Cecilia Cappaiello,
unknown person #2, and unknown person #3. Two of the unknown people are
Kevin Hall and Robert Miller but, unfortunately,I can't put their names to
their pictures. Not pictured is Don Choi.
tom
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End of Disney comics Digest V99 Issue #37
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Michael Naiman
Boston convention
Message 177 -
1999-02-25 at 02:18:44
Thanks to Tom for taking the photos--however...was this a comic book
convention or an opthamology convention??
See this picture http://www.exploremaine.com/~tpeaco/gp990221.JPG)
Or maybe another thought might be:
Does reading Duck books make a person go blind?
Michael
convention or an opthamology convention??
See this picture http://www.exploremaine.com/~tpeaco/gp990221.JPG)
Or maybe another thought might be:
Does reading Duck books make a person go blind?
Michael
Dominik Altevogt
AA index
Message 178 -
1999-02-25 at 09:35:38
>Tenme wrote:
>Hi all,
>
>I was wondering does anyone know of a index that contains finnish Aku
>Ankka (or at least those AA's with Rosa in them)?
You can find a finnish index of Don's work in the Don Rosa Comcindex. You
can download the newest version at http://www.duckhunt.de (Go to the Don
Rosa Comicindex section). By the way version 4.0 was just released.
Dominik Altevogt
>Hi all,
>
>I was wondering does anyone know of a index that contains finnish Aku
>Ankka (or at least those AA's with Rosa in them)?
You can find a finnish index of Don's work in the Don Rosa Comcindex. You
can download the newest version at http://www.duckhunt.de (Go to the Don
Rosa Comicindex section). By the way version 4.0 was just released.
Dominik Altevogt
Cristian Lucas
Disney comics Digest V99 #37
Message 179 -
1999-02-25 at 10:05:47
It's truly amazing, how detailed and ready-for-press the Don Rosa
sketches look... Unlike other artists, who produce a crude bunch of
hacked-together lines and call that a drawing, leaving the fan with that
feeling like "there you go, that's all you're gonna get for free". Don
is the only artist that I know, whose drawings at a fan convention
actually look like those seen published in the media.
========================================================
"I ask for so little... and boy do I get it." -- Dilbert
sketches look... Unlike other artists, who produce a crude bunch of
hacked-together lines and call that a drawing, leaving the fan with that
feeling like "there you go, that's all you're gonna get for free". Don
is the only artist that I know, whose drawings at a fan convention
actually look like those seen published in the media.
========================================================
"I ask for so little... and boy do I get it." -- Dilbert
Jan Follak
A Question concerning "Cutty Sark"
Message 180 -
1999-02-25 at 17:27:17
A question to Don Rosa:
I've just bought the new issue of the German "Micky Maus" that contains the
second and last part of your "Cowboy Captain of the Cutty Sark". I really
enjoyed reading it, especially the running gag about taking a photograph.
I'd like to know if there's some hint in a Barks story that gave you the
idea to write the story, as it was the case with the stories from the
regular "Life of Scrooge"-series. (I hope you haven't already discussed
this on the mailing list. At least I couldn't find the answer in the
digests I checked.)
Best wishes,
Jan
I've just bought the new issue of the German "Micky Maus" that contains the
second and last part of your "Cowboy Captain of the Cutty Sark". I really
enjoyed reading it, especially the running gag about taking a photograph.
I'd like to know if there's some hint in a Barks story that gave you the
idea to write the story, as it was the case with the stories from the
regular "Life of Scrooge"-series. (I hope you haven't already discussed
this on the mailing list. At least I couldn't find the answer in the
digests I checked.)
Best wishes,
Jan