Hi, Francesco Spreafico!
You say:
> "Paperino e il cane
> Dollarosus" (I TL 285-A) and "Paperino e il corno dell'abbondanza" (I TL
> 302-A and I TL 303-B)
>
> The strange thing is that the former is written by Cimino and has his usual
> plot... the same identical plot he's been using for almost forty years now
Do you men that the wo stories have identical plot, or that Cimino
wrote again a plote "stolen" froma one of 'em forty years later?
(Indeed, is quite normal to arrange old plots).
Bye!
Luca
Author
Topic: 199902
(198 messages)
Luca Boschi
I Maestri Disney
Message 136 -
1999-02-19 at 01:02:01
Marco Barlotti
"From egg to duck" on "Paperino Mese"
Message 137 -
1999-02-19 at 01:18:39
FRA SPREA:
>>> > Just one thing.... "Happy birthday Paperino" [...]
>>> > it's not been reprinted since
>>> > 1984!
>>
>>It's not true. There have been two more reprints from that time. One
>>in 1994, on a special "Paperino Mese"
>
>Wow! I had no idea! Can anybody tell me the issue number of that Paperino
>Mese?
Of course! It's issue number 168 (June 1994). A must, since it contains
also Don Rosa's "The duck who never was", and "Paolino Paperino e il
mistero di Marte" and...
Marco
(who has an extra copy and might even CONSIDER swapping it if...)
>>> > Just one thing.... "Happy birthday Paperino" [...]
>>> > it's not been reprinted since
>>> > 1984!
>>
>>It's not true. There have been two more reprints from that time. One
>>in 1994, on a special "Paperino Mese"
>
>Wow! I had no idea! Can anybody tell me the issue number of that Paperino
>Mese?
Of course! It's issue number 168 (June 1994). A must, since it contains
also Don Rosa's "The duck who never was", and "Paolino Paperino e il
mistero di Marte" and...
Marco
(who has an extra copy and might even CONSIDER swapping it if...)
Francesco Spreafico
"From egg to duck" on "Paperino Mese"
Message 138 -
1999-02-19 at 01:31:47
MARCO:
>Of course! It's issue number 168 (June 1994). A must, since it contains
>also Don Rosa's "The duck who never was", and "Paolino Paperino e il
>mistero di Marte" and...
Oh no!! It already was in the "buy-list" and I don't seem to find it
anywhere :(
>(who has an extra copy and might even CONSIDER swapping it if...)
If? :-)
Francesco
>Of course! It's issue number 168 (June 1994). A must, since it contains
>also Don Rosa's "The duck who never was", and "Paolino Paperino e il
>mistero di Marte" and...
Oh no!! It already was in the "buy-list" and I don't seem to find it
anywhere :(
>(who has an extra copy and might even CONSIDER swapping it if...)
If? :-)
Francesco
Luca Boschi
Luc(c)a, again
Message 139 -
1999-02-19 at 04:03:35
Hi, Marco and all:
> Bruno Concina is going to talk about his new book "how to script Disney
> stories"
NOT ONLY Disney stories! All kind of comics stories. With Alfredo
Castelli, Tito Faraci, Silvia Ziche, Francois Corteggiani, Giorgio
Cavazzano, Giovan Battista Carpi, Angelo Palmas...
And Leonardo Gori, Alberto Becattini, Andrea Sani, I hope Massimo
Marconi... But I'll let know what's going on as soon as possible.
And the main theme is a forum on censorship (Comics code, "politically
correct" and so on).
> Also the meeting on the 50 years of TL seems
> promising (when is it scheduled?)
Some of the person I mentioned are scheduled for this meeting. Maybe
it shall take place on Sat. afternon, as usual this kind og things!
Bye!
Luca
>
> Marco
> Bruno Concina is going to talk about his new book "how to script Disney
> stories"
NOT ONLY Disney stories! All kind of comics stories. With Alfredo
Castelli, Tito Faraci, Silvia Ziche, Francois Corteggiani, Giorgio
Cavazzano, Giovan Battista Carpi, Angelo Palmas...
And Leonardo Gori, Alberto Becattini, Andrea Sani, I hope Massimo
Marconi... But I'll let know what's going on as soon as possible.
And the main theme is a forum on censorship (Comics code, "politically
correct" and so on).
> Also the meeting on the 50 years of TL seems
> promising (when is it scheduled?)
Some of the person I mentioned are scheduled for this meeting. Maybe
it shall take place on Sat. afternon, as usual this kind og things!
Bye!
Luca
>
> Marco
Francesco Spreafico
I Maestri Disney
Message 140 -
1999-02-19 at 15:48:35
LUCA:
>Do you men that the wo stories have identical plot, or that Cimino
>wrote again a plote "stolen" froma one of 'em forty years later?
>
>(Indeed, is quite normal to arrange old plots).
What I meant is that "Il cane dollarosus" quite fits in the "usual Cimino's
plot"
(Even though, it being one of the first ones, it's still out of the exact
scheme)
You know what I'm talking about.... Cimino's stories are recognizable at
sight....
Generally somebody finds a map or something like that, Donald doesn't wanna
leave, Scrooge gets him to leave him anyway and they usually use some
strange mean of transport to reach the place... place that usually has a
funny name with funny natives (actually so funny that it is strange Disney
doesn't censor them :-)
Add the splash panel that represents a scene that is in the middle of the
story and not at the beginning... and, especially recently, add Battista
serving tea all through the story, and you have a Cimino's plot :-)
Of course not all Cimino's stories are like that (I'm thinking about the
wonderful Reginella or the Tales around the bonfire)... but 90% are. Latest
example on this week's Topolino, art by Chierchini.
But I like those stories... some people don't... they say that it's
outrageous that he's been getting paid for the same plot for all these
years... but since I like the plot I don't agree with them :-) And actually
the *scripts* are always different and funny.
Francesco
>Do you men that the wo stories have identical plot, or that Cimino
>wrote again a plote "stolen" froma one of 'em forty years later?
>
>(Indeed, is quite normal to arrange old plots).
What I meant is that "Il cane dollarosus" quite fits in the "usual Cimino's
plot"
(Even though, it being one of the first ones, it's still out of the exact
scheme)
You know what I'm talking about.... Cimino's stories are recognizable at
sight....
Generally somebody finds a map or something like that, Donald doesn't wanna
leave, Scrooge gets him to leave him anyway and they usually use some
strange mean of transport to reach the place... place that usually has a
funny name with funny natives (actually so funny that it is strange Disney
doesn't censor them :-)
Add the splash panel that represents a scene that is in the middle of the
story and not at the beginning... and, especially recently, add Battista
serving tea all through the story, and you have a Cimino's plot :-)
Of course not all Cimino's stories are like that (I'm thinking about the
wonderful Reginella or the Tales around the bonfire)... but 90% are. Latest
example on this week's Topolino, art by Chierchini.
But I like those stories... some people don't... they say that it's
outrageous that he's been getting paid for the same plot for all these
years... but since I like the plot I don't agree with them :-) And actually
the *scripts* are always different and funny.
Francesco
Stefan Diös
Disney comics Digest V99 #32
Message 141 -
1999-02-19 at 18:35:09
HARRY:
>There's no big difference. But the Dutch and Swedish texts look more similar
>to each other than to the English version!
That might be explained by the newly discovered fact that Dutch is half
Swedish, while Swedish is half Dutch!
>I was triggered by the Swedish word for "loodst" (lotsar or something). This
>is literally the same word (the Swedish got it from the Dutch!),
Yes, we did, some 300 years ago, if the Germans didn't pass it on. I'll give
you that... but in exchange, you got all the knackebrod! Never forget that!
while the
>English uses a different word.
Which is "pilot", we might add. Mark Twain style, not Charles Lindbergh style.
>(Volvo, Saab, Ericsson, Abba, and Ikea don't count.)
Now, what's wrong with ABBA? Their kaviar is excellent on knackebrod! (No,
you wouldn't understand, even if I explained.)
>("Ik praat ueberhaupt maar 1 woord Duits."
Please don't... I can read you alright, but when you fine folks start to
speak your gibberish, my sensitive ear wants to be elsewhere...
Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden
"Hejsan! Jag talar också ärans och hjältarnas språk!" /K. Anka
>There's no big difference. But the Dutch and Swedish texts look more similar
>to each other than to the English version!
That might be explained by the newly discovered fact that Dutch is half
Swedish, while Swedish is half Dutch!
>I was triggered by the Swedish word for "loodst" (lotsar or something). This
>is literally the same word (the Swedish got it from the Dutch!),
Yes, we did, some 300 years ago, if the Germans didn't pass it on. I'll give
you that... but in exchange, you got all the knackebrod! Never forget that!
while the
>English uses a different word.
Which is "pilot", we might add. Mark Twain style, not Charles Lindbergh style.
>(Volvo, Saab, Ericsson, Abba, and Ikea don't count.)
Now, what's wrong with ABBA? Their kaviar is excellent on knackebrod! (No,
you wouldn't understand, even if I explained.)
>("Ik praat ueberhaupt maar 1 woord Duits."
Please don't... I can read you alright, but when you fine folks start to
speak your gibberish, my sensitive ear wants to be elsewhere...
Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden
"Hejsan! Jag talar också ärans och hjältarnas språk!" /K. Anka
Asger Brix Jensen
Disney Comics Trading Post
Message 142 -
1999-02-20 at 13:39:04
Hi all of you, my phffine phffellow phffans
(oh, guess Daffy isn't Disney!)
A little note to announce, that The D.U.C.K.hunt has created a Disney Comics
Trading Post, where people from all over the world can place adds telling
they want this or can offer that etc. etc.
The URL is:
http://www.image.dk/~dysse74/comicswap.htm
-Or you can find it linked from D.U.C.K.hunt ( http://www.duckhunt.de )!
Now for a little explanation of how to use the trading post:
It's divided into two parts. Part 1 being a list of people who offer bying
specific comics in their own country and then trading/selling them to
interested people. E.g. me; I'm listed as a suplyer of Danish comics
containing Rosa stories. Part 2 is a messageboard, intended for the people
who are looking for specific comics, or people who have these comics they
really don't wanna keep (you get the idea!) Now don't take this explanation
all that seriously; It doesn't matter all that much if the *rules* are
broken a couple of times.
-And everything is explained on the trading post :-)
Asger Brix Jensen
Denmark
(oh, guess Daffy isn't Disney!)
A little note to announce, that The D.U.C.K.hunt has created a Disney Comics
Trading Post, where people from all over the world can place adds telling
they want this or can offer that etc. etc.
The URL is:
http://www.image.dk/~dysse74/comicswap.htm
-Or you can find it linked from D.U.C.K.hunt ( http://www.duckhunt.de )!
Now for a little explanation of how to use the trading post:
It's divided into two parts. Part 1 being a list of people who offer bying
specific comics in their own country and then trading/selling them to
interested people. E.g. me; I'm listed as a suplyer of Danish comics
containing Rosa stories. Part 2 is a messageboard, intended for the people
who are looking for specific comics, or people who have these comics they
really don't wanna keep (you get the idea!) Now don't take this explanation
all that seriously; It doesn't matter all that much if the *rules* are
broken a couple of times.
-And everything is explained on the trading post :-)
Asger Brix Jensen
Denmark
Paolo Belardinelli
About PK (Fantonald, Patomàs, Phantomias...)
Message 143 -
1999-02-20 at 14:39:58
Hi everybody,=20
my name is Paolo and I was looking at his list (very nice, really!) sin=
ce
november, but I didn't see anything about PK new adventure (Paperinik,
Fantonald, Patom=E0s, Phantomias an so on).
Actually this in not my favourite comic book, expecially regarding plot=
s
and situations, but I ought to note a very interesting drawing too!
I recently got a big format reprint of the first three italian issues i=
n
black/withe printing.=20
So I was confirmed in my first opinion when I saw out in the news-stand=
s.
It seemed to be a revolution in Disney comics! It was the only Disney
Comics books trying to do something new, instead of celebrating and eas=
y
reprinting of old stories.=20
Later it was stuffed by a lot of odd steretypes: a terrific incoming al=
ien
invasion played like a medieval tourney, with one-on-one battles (why t=
hey
never attack all together? they probably are more loyal than earthly
armies?). A boring sequel of time paradoxes. There is a kind a of
reactionary thinking behind it. Why the time police should be right
conserveing every part of our past history? =20
All of theese, inmho are weak elements of american heroes old comic boo=
ks.
I mean that the italian Diabolik character ( you can see it at
http://www.diabolik.it/ ) the first Paperinik model during the 60ties, =
was
(and nowadays could be too) a more actual and interesting pattern.
And finally, is really Don Rosa the only Maestro Disney on the list? Is
there someone lurking of the italian creators of PK?=20
We all know that the new PK should be connected to the net! ;-)
Whath do you think about?
I apologize myself if this matter was discussed before november. =20
Paolo Belardinelli
Pontassieve, Italia
(Email removed)
my name is Paolo and I was looking at his list (very nice, really!) sin=
ce
november, but I didn't see anything about PK new adventure (Paperinik,
Fantonald, Patom=E0s, Phantomias an so on).
Actually this in not my favourite comic book, expecially regarding plot=
s
and situations, but I ought to note a very interesting drawing too!
I recently got a big format reprint of the first three italian issues i=
n
black/withe printing.=20
So I was confirmed in my first opinion when I saw out in the news-stand=
s.
It seemed to be a revolution in Disney comics! It was the only Disney
Comics books trying to do something new, instead of celebrating and eas=
y
reprinting of old stories.=20
Later it was stuffed by a lot of odd steretypes: a terrific incoming al=
ien
invasion played like a medieval tourney, with one-on-one battles (why t=
hey
never attack all together? they probably are more loyal than earthly
armies?). A boring sequel of time paradoxes. There is a kind a of
reactionary thinking behind it. Why the time police should be right
conserveing every part of our past history? =20
All of theese, inmho are weak elements of american heroes old comic boo=
ks.
I mean that the italian Diabolik character ( you can see it at
http://www.diabolik.it/ ) the first Paperinik model during the 60ties, =
was
(and nowadays could be too) a more actual and interesting pattern.
And finally, is really Don Rosa the only Maestro Disney on the list? Is
there someone lurking of the italian creators of PK?=20
We all know that the new PK should be connected to the net! ;-)
Whath do you think about?
I apologize myself if this matter was discussed before november. =20
Paolo Belardinelli
Pontassieve, Italia
(Email removed)
Anders Chr. Sivebaek
Monday
Message 144 -
1999-02-20 at 14:41:11
Here's, finally, my report on my trip to the capital of Denmark, Copenhagen
(that town really stinks...smog, polution and so on, I mean)
I have bought a scanner and had to get it up running, so if there's
anything I can help with, just tell...
Well on monday we drove for 4 hours and then we where in Copenhagen...
On the way I got a free paper (I found a coupon in some sports-magazine)
Well, when we got our room in the youth hostel on Amager, we drove to the
city again and parked and then we went to the first comic shop..
On the way we met some kind of a fan... at least he made a program on TV,
using the same princip as the Flippits... some danes might have guessed
that it was Anders Lund Madsen, and his hair was, ermmm well among other
colors, green...
The first store, Pegasus where the owner has just published a book about
comics in DK from 1847 to 1997, was closed... well he was supposed to be
open, but he later told me it was becuase he had to fetch his daughter from
school.
Then we went to the best store: Pharao's Cigars (as the name says they sell
Tintin-albums too)... They have very much! almost every gladstone album was
to be found there, so I bought 3 I had put on my list... There was a box
with comics for 50 cents, I bought ten.. then we browsed through their
danish disney comics... Oh my gosh, my list only had 3 comics left of those
when we were finished...
Then I asked about american disneys... that was sad, only one box left, and
I only found one comic I wanted to have, then I also bought a gold key...
juck!
There was so many commercials, and then for TV-programs... (another
shop-owner, Bo at Pegasus told me that they at a time had 16 pages with ads
and 20 with comics...)
I bought two comics that were special, one from '55 and one from '63,
special because
they contain Barks... (well they mostly did back then...)
because I thought they weren't going to open the shop at Pegasus that day,
I bought that comic-index (no. 4) in the Pharao-shop
Then we went to a shop, by some said to be the best in copenhagen... they
are right, but not in the disney-area... (well I have been there before,
where I bought two gladstone, and saw the BL in b/w...), they guy I know
there had two old disney's for me.. but I already bought the other at
Pharao... well he didn't mind...
He showed me the abouth 10 albums they had left of danish Disney... well...
no
Then we went to Pegasus, where I had ordered two comics, which he had for
me.
Then I bought two others with barks in them two... I showed him my list,
but he had to spend an hour looking for that... we made a deal that we
would come back on wednesday...
Well, that was only one day. As you can hear Copenhagen is a nice town
after all, on this point at least. I hope this doesn't make you american
friend's depressed...
I can tell you that the disney-guy at Pharao wasn't sure yet what would
happen...and they hadn't gotten the last shipping ... (maybe you could tell
me what barks-story, if any, was in the last wdc?)
Your man in DK (well one of them... :-))
Anders Christian Sivebaek
(Email removed);
(Email removed)
(that town really stinks...smog, polution and so on, I mean)
I have bought a scanner and had to get it up running, so if there's
anything I can help with, just tell...
Well on monday we drove for 4 hours and then we where in Copenhagen...
On the way I got a free paper (I found a coupon in some sports-magazine)
Well, when we got our room in the youth hostel on Amager, we drove to the
city again and parked and then we went to the first comic shop..
On the way we met some kind of a fan... at least he made a program on TV,
using the same princip as the Flippits... some danes might have guessed
that it was Anders Lund Madsen, and his hair was, ermmm well among other
colors, green...
The first store, Pegasus where the owner has just published a book about
comics in DK from 1847 to 1997, was closed... well he was supposed to be
open, but he later told me it was becuase he had to fetch his daughter from
school.
Then we went to the best store: Pharao's Cigars (as the name says they sell
Tintin-albums too)... They have very much! almost every gladstone album was
to be found there, so I bought 3 I had put on my list... There was a box
with comics for 50 cents, I bought ten.. then we browsed through their
danish disney comics... Oh my gosh, my list only had 3 comics left of those
when we were finished...
Then I asked about american disneys... that was sad, only one box left, and
I only found one comic I wanted to have, then I also bought a gold key...
juck!
There was so many commercials, and then for TV-programs... (another
shop-owner, Bo at Pegasus told me that they at a time had 16 pages with ads
and 20 with comics...)
I bought two comics that were special, one from '55 and one from '63,
special because
they contain Barks... (well they mostly did back then...)
because I thought they weren't going to open the shop at Pegasus that day,
I bought that comic-index (no. 4) in the Pharao-shop
Then we went to a shop, by some said to be the best in copenhagen... they
are right, but not in the disney-area... (well I have been there before,
where I bought two gladstone, and saw the BL in b/w...), they guy I know
there had two old disney's for me.. but I already bought the other at
Pharao... well he didn't mind...
He showed me the abouth 10 albums they had left of danish Disney... well...
no
Then we went to Pegasus, where I had ordered two comics, which he had for
me.
Then I bought two others with barks in them two... I showed him my list,
but he had to spend an hour looking for that... we made a deal that we
would come back on wednesday...
Well, that was only one day. As you can hear Copenhagen is a nice town
after all, on this point at least. I hope this doesn't make you american
friend's depressed...
I can tell you that the disney-guy at Pharao wasn't sure yet what would
happen...and they hadn't gotten the last shipping ... (maybe you could tell
me what barks-story, if any, was in the last wdc?)
Your man in DK (well one of them... :-))
Anders Christian Sivebaek
(Email removed);
(Email removed)
Asger Brix Jensen
Disney Comics Trading Post
Message 145 -
1999-02-20 at 15:11:32
Hi all of you, my phffine phffellow phffans
(oh, guess Daffy isn't Disney!)
A little note to announce, that The D.U.C.K.hunt has created a Disney Comics
Trading Post, where people from all over the world can place adds telling
they want this or can offer that etc. etc.
The URL is:
http://www.image.dk/~dysse74/comicswap.htm
-Or you can find it linked from D.U.C.K.hunt ( http://www.duckhunt.de )!
Now for a little explanation of how to use the trading post:
It's divided into two parts. Part 1 being a list of people who offer bying
specific comics in their own country and then trading/selling them to
interested people. E.g. me; I'm listed as a suplyer of Danish comics
containing Rosa stories. Part 2 is a messageboard, intended for the people
who are looking for specific comics, or people who have these comics they
really don't wanna keep (you get the idea!) Now don't take this explanation
all that seriously; It doesn't matter all that much if the *rules* are
broken a couple of times.
-And everything is explained on the trading post :-)
Asger Brix Jensen
Denmark
(oh, guess Daffy isn't Disney!)
A little note to announce, that The D.U.C.K.hunt has created a Disney Comics
Trading Post, where people from all over the world can place adds telling
they want this or can offer that etc. etc.
The URL is:
http://www.image.dk/~dysse74/comicswap.htm
-Or you can find it linked from D.U.C.K.hunt ( http://www.duckhunt.de )!
Now for a little explanation of how to use the trading post:
It's divided into two parts. Part 1 being a list of people who offer bying
specific comics in their own country and then trading/selling them to
interested people. E.g. me; I'm listed as a suplyer of Danish comics
containing Rosa stories. Part 2 is a messageboard, intended for the people
who are looking for specific comics, or people who have these comics they
really don't wanna keep (you get the idea!) Now don't take this explanation
all that seriously; It doesn't matter all that much if the *rules* are
broken a couple of times.
-And everything is explained on the trading post :-)
Asger Brix Jensen
Denmark
Anders Chr. Sivebaek
Tuesday
Message 146 -
1999-02-20 at 15:45:14
This isn't so long...
But we did visit one place this day, even though I hadn't got my list
anymore (Bo borrowede it, remember?) It was a place called Pinnau antik.
This man had some albums form the series of best stories with Donald...
well I told him to put two aside for me, we made a deal, that if I didn't
come back on thursday he would put them back on the shelf.
He also had some old Donald's from the 50'es... but as said, I hadn't got
my list, and I was later told that he is seen as one of the most expensive
seller in the city...
A man bought a Tintin album for about 80 $, that surprised my mom a bit!
As we were going Pinnau showed us the ver oldest Donald-comic in dk, a long
thing from danish family-magazine 1946... he wanted 14,000 danish kroner
for that... 2,200 $ that is!
In the evening we were supposed to have seen a danish comedy in the theater
(Erasmus Montanus), but because of illnes among the actors it wasn't up...
then we saw another piece..
One of the days I browsed through the comics at the youth hostel...
borrowed two of them, because my copies of those two have no cover... then
I wrote down what was on those covers... well it seemed those comics were
actually meant not only to be borrowed by the kids... at least one of them
had got the contain ripped out of it...
(that's we call vulgar donaldism)
On the youth hostel we also met a family, where the father had been quite
inbterested in the series by one artist... Barks of course. And he told
also that his father once bought one of the illustrated classics for him, a
famous series here in DK, he got the adress for Pharao, cause maybe he
would be able to find no 6 (Orwell's fight of the globes(translation all
right?), but when i looked the next day, one of the guys told that it was
the most seldom seen in that row...
That was tuesday
Anders Christian Sivebaek
(Email removed);
(Email removed)
But we did visit one place this day, even though I hadn't got my list
anymore (Bo borrowede it, remember?) It was a place called Pinnau antik.
This man had some albums form the series of best stories with Donald...
well I told him to put two aside for me, we made a deal, that if I didn't
come back on thursday he would put them back on the shelf.
He also had some old Donald's from the 50'es... but as said, I hadn't got
my list, and I was later told that he is seen as one of the most expensive
seller in the city...
A man bought a Tintin album for about 80 $, that surprised my mom a bit!
As we were going Pinnau showed us the ver oldest Donald-comic in dk, a long
thing from danish family-magazine 1946... he wanted 14,000 danish kroner
for that... 2,200 $ that is!
In the evening we were supposed to have seen a danish comedy in the theater
(Erasmus Montanus), but because of illnes among the actors it wasn't up...
then we saw another piece..
One of the days I browsed through the comics at the youth hostel...
borrowed two of them, because my copies of those two have no cover... then
I wrote down what was on those covers... well it seemed those comics were
actually meant not only to be borrowed by the kids... at least one of them
had got the contain ripped out of it...
(that's we call vulgar donaldism)
On the youth hostel we also met a family, where the father had been quite
inbterested in the series by one artist... Barks of course. And he told
also that his father once bought one of the illustrated classics for him, a
famous series here in DK, he got the adress for Pharao, cause maybe he
would be able to find no 6 (Orwell's fight of the globes(translation all
right?), but when i looked the next day, one of the guys told that it was
the most seldom seen in that row...
That was tuesday
Anders Christian Sivebaek
(Email removed);
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Anders Chr. Sivebaek
Wednesday
Message 147 -
1999-02-20 at 15:45:26
We went firstly to vist Pharao where I bought LICU 33, containing 4 comics,
(chuckwagon derby was the one I wanted mostly).
I aslo bought some old ones, Barks' cover family portraits was on one of
them...
another was one from 1952, 170 kr... (I don't know todays exchange-pay) 20
maybe
I bought one issue of the fanzine Barks & Co., 25 issues has come till
now...
Then we visitted Pegasus... closed! we went to the planetarium ( aplce to
whatch movies about space, on omnimax-film... you can see something almost
all around you... go there if you should happen to be in Copenhagen! Well
we went to the toilet, drank a cup of chocolate and phoend Bo, who was home
now...
Then we went there...! He hadn't found anything from the list... but I
looked in the 50cents boxes... and found some comics, among others AA81-25
which also contained Barks, and it was a collection of 3 (they must have
striked that year...)
I also bought two old comics, one 250 kr (35?-from 1951) and another from
53 in bad condition and therefore 60 kr.. (10 $) He had a tape recorded by
Danish TV in 1994 where Barks visitted, and I bought that too, very nice
interview!
Bo had an old original drawing which he had heired from a friend who
died... Bo told us that not many of Barks' original drawings are left...
because Western burned them in
the basement... I hope they were warm!
In the evening we drove to aunt Emma, who lives in Herlev
Her son collected Disney-comics in the 60'es, he only wanted those from
50'es, so he could actually recognize some of the panels in those I had
bought...
But Emma thew them out some time ago, I think it was when she moved to the
house where she lives now, or just during a great throw-out seesion, she
said why are we keeping this junk... later the kids found out and they
thought it was sad...
To be continued!
Anders Christian Sivebaek
(Email removed);
(Email removed)
(chuckwagon derby was the one I wanted mostly).
I aslo bought some old ones, Barks' cover family portraits was on one of
them...
another was one from 1952, 170 kr... (I don't know todays exchange-pay) 20
maybe
I bought one issue of the fanzine Barks & Co., 25 issues has come till
now...
Then we visitted Pegasus... closed! we went to the planetarium ( aplce to
whatch movies about space, on omnimax-film... you can see something almost
all around you... go there if you should happen to be in Copenhagen! Well
we went to the toilet, drank a cup of chocolate and phoend Bo, who was home
now...
Then we went there...! He hadn't found anything from the list... but I
looked in the 50cents boxes... and found some comics, among others AA81-25
which also contained Barks, and it was a collection of 3 (they must have
striked that year...)
I also bought two old comics, one 250 kr (35?-from 1951) and another from
53 in bad condition and therefore 60 kr.. (10 $) He had a tape recorded by
Danish TV in 1994 where Barks visitted, and I bought that too, very nice
interview!
Bo had an old original drawing which he had heired from a friend who
died... Bo told us that not many of Barks' original drawings are left...
because Western burned them in
the basement... I hope they were warm!
In the evening we drove to aunt Emma, who lives in Herlev
Her son collected Disney-comics in the 60'es, he only wanted those from
50'es, so he could actually recognize some of the panels in those I had
bought...
But Emma thew them out some time ago, I think it was when she moved to the
house where she lives now, or just during a great throw-out seesion, she
said why are we keeping this junk... later the kids found out and they
thought it was sad...
To be continued!
Anders Christian Sivebaek
(Email removed);
(Email removed)
Anders Chr. Sivebaek
Thursday
Message 148 -
1999-02-20 at 15:45:34
last chapter:
as I had found those stories from the albums other places we just drove
directly to an art museum in southseeland (the comic-shop on Amager opened
late)
There we saw some art by Andy Warhole, AND a book just called no. 3, but I
emidiatly recognized the contents... some old Disney's from the 60'es they
were all holed through... and they call that art? I cut have kicked that
glass...
A much better experience was the comic museum in denmark (Goerlev).
It is about comics in DK, and that includes american comics too, of
course...
the owner showed us around and told us to not only look at the comics but
also all the things that followed them. He meant merchandise as money pigs
formed as Tintin and Haddock, Rasmus Klump-things (Klump is a bear drawn by
two danes... he has been very popular with the kids for many years... I
myself read all the books about him..)
and movie-posters from eg. Asterix-movies...
Then there was a little exhibition about Egmont, which publish according to
him in 27 countries... In the glassmontre one could see many old
donald-comics, among others a solo from 1954 with the golden helmet, and 4
pages that followed the weekly in 1960, a story that cost 400 kr today...
There where issues one could read in too, and that was not only the
disney's but all of them, (wild west eg.), but I read disney and found many
albums with Donald that i hadn't seen for some time. some classics and a
collect-book with reprints of every issue from no. 1 1949 to no 4 from
1951.
There was a collection of stamps too. third world countries publish such
stamps, it's a great push up to their BNP I think...
Then there was a lot of posters that egmont send to the sellers, eg. from
1991 where the weekly got 44 pages in stead of 36, and when there was two
comics in one week, and the extras (Don's His majesty McDuck among others)
And there was a copy of the family tree, with all the stickers on... the
text told that there was 13 chapters... (in the weekly that was, the man
tried to convince me... btw this man was Anders Hjorth-Soerensen who won
the Ping-price in 1996 (Storm P?))
but that isn't true... at least if it should be there a 15 now (the 12
known, 3b, 6b and hearts of yukon)
He had a shop too... but it was mostly other comics than disney... only a
stack of new ones... I found one Superman and one Uncle Scrooge-pocket book
(on the walls was some dsb-posters with ads for Donald-issues and
pocket-book (DSB is the danish railways)
In the ticket shop I looked at some Barks & Co., of which I bought two (no.
2 and 9)
All in all I spend 2,400 kr. on this trip... that's about 400 $... but I
love all the things I bought... and now I read in the paper that some guy
in Aarhus sells 430 weeklies for 1000 kr... hmmmm
Yours comic-freak...
Anders Christian Sivebaek
(Email removed);
(Email removed)
as I had found those stories from the albums other places we just drove
directly to an art museum in southseeland (the comic-shop on Amager opened
late)
There we saw some art by Andy Warhole, AND a book just called no. 3, but I
emidiatly recognized the contents... some old Disney's from the 60'es they
were all holed through... and they call that art? I cut have kicked that
glass...
A much better experience was the comic museum in denmark (Goerlev).
It is about comics in DK, and that includes american comics too, of
course...
the owner showed us around and told us to not only look at the comics but
also all the things that followed them. He meant merchandise as money pigs
formed as Tintin and Haddock, Rasmus Klump-things (Klump is a bear drawn by
two danes... he has been very popular with the kids for many years... I
myself read all the books about him..)
and movie-posters from eg. Asterix-movies...
Then there was a little exhibition about Egmont, which publish according to
him in 27 countries... In the glassmontre one could see many old
donald-comics, among others a solo from 1954 with the golden helmet, and 4
pages that followed the weekly in 1960, a story that cost 400 kr today...
There where issues one could read in too, and that was not only the
disney's but all of them, (wild west eg.), but I read disney and found many
albums with Donald that i hadn't seen for some time. some classics and a
collect-book with reprints of every issue from no. 1 1949 to no 4 from
1951.
There was a collection of stamps too. third world countries publish such
stamps, it's a great push up to their BNP I think...
Then there was a lot of posters that egmont send to the sellers, eg. from
1991 where the weekly got 44 pages in stead of 36, and when there was two
comics in one week, and the extras (Don's His majesty McDuck among others)
And there was a copy of the family tree, with all the stickers on... the
text told that there was 13 chapters... (in the weekly that was, the man
tried to convince me... btw this man was Anders Hjorth-Soerensen who won
the Ping-price in 1996 (Storm P?))
but that isn't true... at least if it should be there a 15 now (the 12
known, 3b, 6b and hearts of yukon)
He had a shop too... but it was mostly other comics than disney... only a
stack of new ones... I found one Superman and one Uncle Scrooge-pocket book
(on the walls was some dsb-posters with ads for Donald-issues and
pocket-book (DSB is the danish railways)
In the ticket shop I looked at some Barks & Co., of which I bought two (no.
2 and 9)
All in all I spend 2,400 kr. on this trip... that's about 400 $... but I
love all the things I bought... and now I read in the paper that some guy
in Aarhus sells 430 weeklies for 1000 kr... hmmmm
Yours comic-freak...
Anders Christian Sivebaek
(Email removed);
(Email removed)
Francesco Spreafico
about PK (Fantonald, Patomàs, Phantomias...)
Message 149 -
1999-02-20 at 19:45:04
PAOLO B. :
>Hi everybody,
Welcome :-)
>my name is Paolo and I was looking at his list (very nice, really!) si=
nce
>november, but I didn't see anything about PK new adventure (Paperinik,
>Fantonald, Patom=E0s, Phantomias an so on).
I guess we talked a bit about it... when Joakim "censored" the Swedish
edition :-)
But not very much actually...
>Actually this in not my favourite comic book, expecially regarding plo=
ts
>and situations, but I ought to note a very interesting drawing too!
I have really gotta say that there are very few things drawn *worse* th=
an
PKNA's issue 0... I *hate* Lavoradori's art, I consider it one of the l=
owest
points in Disney comics (nothing personal :-)... thanks God they had
Sciarrone on number 0/2 and that was really great.
>I recently got a big format reprint of the first three italian issues =
in
>black/withe printing.
The "Pkone".. I didn't buy it, but I know what you're talking about... =
looks
fine after all.
>So I was confirmed in my first opinion when I saw out in the news-stan=
ds.
>It seemed to be a revolution in Disney comics! It was the only Disney
>Comics books trying to do something new, instead of celebrating and ea=
sy
>reprinting of old stories.
But it doesn't really matter as long as the new things suck... some of =
the
PK issue are good... *very* good (I'm talking about #15 Siliva Ziche's
Motore/Azione, that is wonderful) and all of Sciarrone's numbers... but=
,
actually, all the others, even though some have very good plots (Faraci=
and
Sisti better than the others)... they really are too badly drawn to tel=
l me
something.
>And finally, is really Don Rosa the only Maestro Disney on the list? I=
s
>there someone lurking of the italian creators of PK?
>We all know that the new PK should be connected to the net! ;-)
In my opinion some lurkers from Disney are 'round here but they keep si=
lent
:-)
Francesco
>Hi everybody,
Welcome :-)
>my name is Paolo and I was looking at his list (very nice, really!) si=
nce
>november, but I didn't see anything about PK new adventure (Paperinik,
>Fantonald, Patom=E0s, Phantomias an so on).
I guess we talked a bit about it... when Joakim "censored" the Swedish
edition :-)
But not very much actually...
>Actually this in not my favourite comic book, expecially regarding plo=
ts
>and situations, but I ought to note a very interesting drawing too!
I have really gotta say that there are very few things drawn *worse* th=
an
PKNA's issue 0... I *hate* Lavoradori's art, I consider it one of the l=
owest
points in Disney comics (nothing personal :-)... thanks God they had
Sciarrone on number 0/2 and that was really great.
>I recently got a big format reprint of the first three italian issues =
in
>black/withe printing.
The "Pkone".. I didn't buy it, but I know what you're talking about... =
looks
fine after all.
>So I was confirmed in my first opinion when I saw out in the news-stan=
ds.
>It seemed to be a revolution in Disney comics! It was the only Disney
>Comics books trying to do something new, instead of celebrating and ea=
sy
>reprinting of old stories.
But it doesn't really matter as long as the new things suck... some of =
the
PK issue are good... *very* good (I'm talking about #15 Siliva Ziche's
Motore/Azione, that is wonderful) and all of Sciarrone's numbers... but=
,
actually, all the others, even though some have very good plots (Faraci=
and
Sisti better than the others)... they really are too badly drawn to tel=
l me
something.
>And finally, is really Don Rosa the only Maestro Disney on the list? I=
s
>there someone lurking of the italian creators of PK?
>We all know that the new PK should be connected to the net! ;-)
In my opinion some lurkers from Disney are 'round here but they keep si=
lent
:-)
Francesco
Michael Naiman
Dell Duck Annuals
Message 150 -
1999-02-20 at 20:28:46
FYI: I have Western File Copies of Dell Duck Annuals for sale. These are
probably the best and highest condition examples that exist. Email me for
list.
probably the best and highest condition examples that exist. Email me for
list.