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John Garvin
Comics in America are dead.
Well, ok, not dead, but certainly dying.

It's only a matter of time, you know. Comics as a method of mass entertainment started dying out in the
fifties. Not because of the comics code, but because of television. Throughout the sixties, to survive,
comics had to start appealing to narrower and narrower niches, namely, teenage boys who worshipped
superheros. The days when a "Comics and Stories" could ship 3 million copies in a single month were over
when 2.5 million little kids decided they would rather watch afternoon cartoons and Howdy Doody than read
comic books.

And this is not a tragedy. "Moving Pictures" supplanted vaudville in much the same way. "Talkies" killed
the silent film era. The video game industry (which I've worked in for the past ten years) made more
money last year than all of Hollywood's output combined (by billions of dollars). The internet is going
to make, I predict, similarly vast changes to the publishing, music, and entertainment industries. Your
kids will look at your stacks of comics in the same way I looked at my dad's stacks of pulps: it was a
quaint idea that had it's heyday, and passed.

Comics will survive, but only as a labor of love for those who create them and publish them. No one is
going to make the kinds of profits that drive corporate strategies, publishing comic books. This is bad
for fans of Disney comics because Disney is a huge corporation that is profit driven, not "love of the
artform" driven.

This is the central problem to publishing Disney comics in America. If you want to see Disney comics
published here, you have to find someone who is willing to almost work for free doing very small
print-runs to a fan base that is very small. This is a hard reality. Any talk of expanding the reader
base is doomed to failure because the masses have moved beyond comics as a means of entertainment.
Kriton Kyrimis
FRANCOIS:
> Today, a new issue of Picsou hits the stand...
> It only contains Barks and
> Branca stories and The French Master Spy by Don Rosa.

Could you mention the issue number or whatever other identifying
information is required, so that I might grab it when it appears in
Greece a few months from now? Just about the only thing I don't like
about Picsou is that it's very hard to tell its contents without
actually buying it and tearing the plastic wrap.

With Gladstone's demise (or whatever), I'll have to look elsewhere for
my Rosa fix, and as much as the KOMIX people adore Don, there are many
of his stories that they haven't published yet.

TOM_A:
> in I N D I A - no joke, thats the real !!!!
> they print their WDC and Stories
> in E N G L I S H ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

I'm afraid that this was only an educated guess, based on the fact that
the official language in India is English. However, a look at the list
of indian publications in the Disney comics worldwide pages
(http://www.dcomics.org/country.asp?CountryID=44) tells otherwise:
There are currently two Disney comics titles published in India,
"Mickey Mouse" and "Mickey Mouse Digest", and one cancelled title,
"Disney Today". Judging by the sample covers shown in the pages, none
of these titles is published in English or any language that utilizes
the roman alphabet.

Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
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"Your species doesn't, uh, do anything, you know, *awful* when you get too
happy, do you? Like, you know, blow up or something?"
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Kriton Kyrimis
FRANCOIS:
> Today, a new issue of Picsou hits the stand...
> It only contains Barks and
> Branca stories and The French Master Spy by Don Rosa.

Could you mention the issue number or whatever other identifying
information is required, so that I might grab it when it appears in
Greece a few months from now? Just about the only thing I don't like
about Picsou is that it's very hard to tell its contents without
actually buying it and tearing the plastic wrap.

With Gladstone's demise (or whatever), I'll have to look elsewhere for
my Rosa fix, and as much as the KOMIX people adore Don, there are many
of his stories that they haven't published yet.

TOM_A:
> in I N D I A - no joke, thats the real !!!!
> they print their WDC and Stories
> in E N G L I S H ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

I'm afraid that this was only an educated guess, based on the fact that
the official language in India is English. However, a look at the list
of indian publications in the Disney comics worldwide pages
(http://www.dcomics.org/country.asp?CountryID=44) tells otherwise:
There are currently two Disney comics titles published in India,
"Mickey Mouse" and "Mickey Mouse Digest", and one cancelled title,
"Disney Today". Judging by the sample covers shown in the pages, none
of these titles is published in English or any language that utilizes
the roman alphabet.

Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Your species doesn't, uh, do anything, you know, *awful* when you get too
happy, do you? Like, you know, blow up or something?"
-----
Arthur De Wolf
Hi!

KRITON KYRIMIS:
>> they print their WDC and Stories in ENGLISH !!!!
> I'm afraid that this was only an educated guess, based on
> the fact that the official language in India is English.
> However, a look at the list of indian publications in the
> Disney comics worldwide pages tells otherwise:

Err, well .. those pages are mine, but it could very well be that
those two titles I have listed there are also printed in English.
All the information in DCW (http://www.dcomics.org) is only all
the stuff that I know and/or have, so if I don't have an English
publication of an Indian Disney comic doesn't mean that they
don't exist.

> Judging by the sample covers shown in the pages, none
> of these titles is published in English or any language that
> utilizes the roman alphabet.

It could be that they have two versions of those titles.
My info on countries like that is not 100% complete. If there
are any people on the mailing list who would be willing to help
me with descriptions of titles, publishers, countries or scans
of comics from around the world, please email me.

Arthur de Wolf
(Email removed)
http://www.dcomics.org
Arthur De Wolf
Hi!

KRITON KYRIMIS:
>> they print their WDC and Stories in ENGLISH !!!!
> I'm afraid that this was only an educated guess, based on
> the fact that the official language in India is English.
> However, a look at the list of indian publications in the
> Disney comics worldwide pages tells otherwise:

Err, well .. those pages are mine, but it could very well be that
those two titles I have listed there are also printed in English.
All the information in DCW (http://www.dcomics.org) is only all
the stuff that I know and/or have, so if I don't have an English
publication of an Indian Disney comic doesn't mean that they
don't exist.

> Judging by the sample covers shown in the pages, none
> of these titles is published in English or any language that
> utilizes the roman alphabet.

It could be that they have two versions of those titles.
My info on countries like that is not 100% complete. If there
are any people on the mailing list who would be willing to help
me with descriptions of titles, publishers, countries or scans
of comics from around the world, please email me.

Arthur de Wolf
(Email removed)
http://www.dcomics.org
Santiago Garcia Baños
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I beg you pardon for not have posted this at the right time, but I've =
been having problems with my email server.

Dr. Archontis Pantsios:
>Truth to tell, I haven't seen many stories taking place in modern =
Greece.

I just can't help to mention Carl Barks' (if I'm not wrong) 'The =
Fabulous Philosopher's Stone', in which U$, Donald & HDL travel to =
several Mediterraneo countries (Italy and Greece) and other historic =
cities (Damasco, Bagdad) in search of the magic stone which was said to =
make everything become gold. In Greece, they get lost in the Maze of =
Creta.
And right now I'm remembering another Barks' story, 'The golden ...?', =
in which both U$ & Donald are kidnapped by the mean *larkies* (I don't =
know if this is the same name as in the original version), who take them =
to Greece on the Argos. I love those two stories because several Greek =
Mythology characters and tales are told about.

(I'm sure you know about that two, but I have to say it).

SKN.

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Santiago Garcia Baños
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I beg you pardon for not have posted this at the right time, but I've =
been having problems with my email server.

Dr. Archontis Pantsios:
>Truth to tell, I haven't seen many stories taking place in modern =
Greece.

I just can't help to mention Carl Barks' (if I'm not wrong) 'The =
Fabulous Philosopher's Stone', in which U$, Donald & HDL travel to =
several Mediterraneo countries (Italy and Greece) and other historic =
cities (Damasco, Bagdad) in search of the magic stone which was said to =
make everything become gold. In Greece, they get lost in the Maze of =
Creta.
And right now I'm remembering another Barks' story, 'The golden ...?', =
in which both U$ & Donald are kidnapped by the mean *larkies* (I don't =
know if this is the same name as in the original version), who take them =
to Greece on the Argos. I love those two stories because several Greek =
Mythology characters and tales are told about.

(I'm sure you know about that two, but I have to say it).

SKN.

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Dr. Archontis Pantsios
I originally sent this last Tuesday; wonder what happened to it? (Per?)

Fellow Quackeroos:

Thessaloniki has been hit with a VERY rare, severe snow-storm that has
blanketed the city with ~25 cm of snow, and turned walking into
ice-capades!--that's *A LOT* for down-town Thessaloniki! Schools have shut
down, but now that the storm has receded I dared to visit my office and send
a comics report!

KOMIX #128 hit the stands last Friday. It features:

1) A cover by Daan Jippes
2) A two-page editorial on "Barks and Censorship", part III of a report on
Comics and Censorship.
3) Barks' "MicroDucks from Outer-Space", from US #65, 1965
4) A two-page editorial on "With the Eyes of the MicroDucks"
5) "Return of the MicroDucks", D-3829, on a script by Jim Kenner, drawn by Vicar
6) "The long, long nap", WDC&S #403, drawn by Paul Murry (This is the first
of the short, 8-pagers that Murry started to draw in 1974, after the 3-part,
MM serials ended with "The Flight of the Dragon" in 1973.)
7) A one-page editorial on "In the kingdom of Medioka"
8) "The monarch of Medioka", part II, drawn by Bill Wright (an adaptation of
Osborn's and Gottfredson's original).

Finally a question to all Scarpa experts out there: KOMIX advertises a
Scarpa story for its next issue, but the Greek title ("Gone with the Wind")
doesn't ring a bell. However, here's a brief preview of the story, according
to KOMIX:

<<A "watch-tower" springs up in close distance to Scrooge's money-bin.
Brigitta, who is constantly in love with him, watches Scrooge from there
every day. A series of incredible coincidences will bring Scrooge against
Brigitta's tennant, resulting in an alliance between Scrooge and Brigitta,
in an unpredictable story by Romano Scarpa".

More details on this, anyone?

Cheers,

Archontis
Dr. Archontis Pantsios
I originally sent this last Tuesday; wonder what happened to it? (Per?)

Fellow Quackeroos:

Thessaloniki has been hit with a VERY rare, severe snow-storm that has
blanketed the city with ~25 cm of snow, and turned walking into
ice-capades!--that's *A LOT* for down-town Thessaloniki! Schools have shut
down, but now that the storm has receded I dared to visit my office and send
a comics report!

KOMIX #128 hit the stands last Friday. It features:

1) A cover by Daan Jippes
2) A two-page editorial on "Barks and Censorship", part III of a report on
Comics and Censorship.
3) Barks' "MicroDucks from Outer-Space", from US #65, 1965
4) A two-page editorial on "With the Eyes of the MicroDucks"
5) "Return of the MicroDucks", D-3829, on a script by Jim Kenner, drawn by Vicar
6) "The long, long nap", WDC&S #403, drawn by Paul Murry (This is the first
of the short, 8-pagers that Murry started to draw in 1974, after the 3-part,
MM serials ended with "The Flight of the Dragon" in 1973.)
7) A one-page editorial on "In the kingdom of Medioka"
8) "The monarch of Medioka", part II, drawn by Bill Wright (an adaptation of
Osborn's and Gottfredson's original).

Finally a question to all Scarpa experts out there: KOMIX advertises a
Scarpa story for its next issue, but the Greek title ("Gone with the Wind")
doesn't ring a bell. However, here's a brief preview of the story, according
to KOMIX:

<<A "watch-tower" springs up in close distance to Scrooge's money-bin.
Brigitta, who is constantly in love with him, watches Scrooge from there
every day. A series of incredible coincidences will bring Scrooge against
Brigitta's tennant, resulting in an alliance between Scrooge and Brigitta,
in an unpredictable story by Romano Scarpa".

More details on this, anyone?

Cheers,

Archontis
Willot Eleve Promo 98
On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Kriton Kyrimis wrote:

>
> Could you mention the issue number or whatever other identifying
> information is required, so that I might grab it when it appears in
> Greece a few months from now? Just about the only thing I don't like
> about Picsou is that it's very hard to tell its contents without
> actually buying it and tearing the plastic wrap.

It is the february issue, and its issue number is # 325. The cover is
yellow, with a Donald and Scrooge drawing taken from a panel of a
Barks story, enlarged.

Francois
Willot Eleve Promo 98
On Thu, 4 Feb 1999, Kriton Kyrimis wrote:

>
> Could you mention the issue number or whatever other identifying
> information is required, so that I might grab it when it appears in
> Greece a few months from now? Just about the only thing I don't like
> about Picsou is that it's very hard to tell its contents without
> actually buying it and tearing the plastic wrap.

It is the february issue, and its issue number is # 325. The cover is
yellow, with a Donald and Scrooge drawing taken from a panel of a
Barks story, enlarged.

Francois
Luca Sorrentino
Hi all! I'm an italian collector.

1) I have one copy each of the following comics.
Each contains first US print of a Don Rosa story.

Uncle $crooge # 220, 235
Walt Disney Comics and stories # 526, 531, 547
Mickey & Donald # 17
Donald Duck adventures # 8
Uncle $crooge adventures # 14

All printed by Gladstone in 1988/89.

I wish to know the value of this comics.
If anyone knows, please reply.

2)I own the Carl Barks Library, but for sets 5 and 9.
If anyone knows where and how I could find them, please answer.

3) Where I can found a complete updated list of Don Rosa Disney US
comics?
I am searching US comics to buy containing Don Rosa stories. If anyone
want to sell or knows where/how could I find them, please answer.

Thanks to all.

L.

--
Luca Sorrentino (Email removed) tel 070/2796333
Luca Sorrentino
Hi all! I'm an italian collector.

1) I have one copy each of the following comics.
Each contains first US print of a Don Rosa story.

Uncle $crooge # 220, 235
Walt Disney Comics and stories # 526, 531, 547
Mickey & Donald # 17
Donald Duck adventures # 8
Uncle $crooge adventures # 14

All printed by Gladstone in 1988/89.

I wish to know the value of this comics.
If anyone knows, please reply.

2)I own the Carl Barks Library, but for sets 5 and 9.
If anyone knows where and how I could find them, please answer.

3) Where I can found a complete updated list of Don Rosa Disney US
comics?
I am searching US comics to buy containing Don Rosa stories. If anyone
want to sell or knows where/how could I find them, please answer.

Thanks to all.

L.

--
Luca Sorrentino (Email removed) tel 070/2796333
Christian Peters
I have one question...
Is a good comic-painter (Don Rosa) allowed to decide for which comic-book he
paint/draw?

Man liest sich...
CHRISTIAN
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(Email removed)
ICQ:17135554
http://home.t-online.de/home/Christian-Peters/chris.htm
Christian Peters
I have one question...
Is a good comic-painter (Don Rosa) allowed to decide for which comic-book he
paint/draw?

Man liest sich...
CHRISTIAN
--------------------
(Email removed)
ICQ:17135554
http://home.t-online.de/home/Christian-Peters/chris.htm
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