Archontis:
Interesting way of reasoning. Using that, I can prove that my PC is human.
Or anything else, for that matter, as long as:
> a) it does not walk like a duck;
> b) it does not talk like a duck;
> c) it does not look like a duck.
QED. 8-)
> Archontis L. Pantsios, Ph.D.
> Visiting Associate Professor of Economics
> Binghamton University
> Binghamton, New York
> USA
> tel: (607)777-4726
Drs. H. W. (Harry) Fluks
Scientific advisor, Services development, System design
Royal KPN NV, KPN Research
Leidschendam, Zuid-Holland
The Netherlands
tel: (070)3325074
Author
Topic: 200002
(230 messages)
Fluks, H.W.
Donald Duck: Is he a ...Duck?
Message 106 -
2000-02-09 at 17:32:42
Sonia_dyer
Reply to Wallroth about American Scrooge comics
Message 107 -
2000-02-10 at 01:13:29
Hi Jacob -
Gladstone stopped publishing Uncle Scrooge comics in December '98, but
still sells back issues. See their web page at:
http://brucehamilton.com/gladstone/
regards,
Sonia
Gladstone stopped publishing Uncle Scrooge comics in December '98, but
still sells back issues. See their web page at:
http://brucehamilton.com/gladstone/
regards,
Sonia
Andrew Harris
Super Picsou Geant
Message 108 -
2000-02-10 at 12:31:52
A few years ago in the local book exchange, I found this rather large digest
of Disney Comics - nearly 200 pages - called Super Picsou Geant. So from my
meagre skills of investigation I skillfully (or not) deduced that Picsou
means Scrooge. The number on the spine is 37, and was published in 1990.
Are these the French Disney comics? I can't even read the thing - I just
got it because it's a novelty.
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of Disney Comics - nearly 200 pages - called Super Picsou Geant. So from my
meagre skills of investigation I skillfully (or not) deduced that Picsou
means Scrooge. The number on the spine is 37, and was published in 1990.
Are these the French Disney comics? I can't even read the thing - I just
got it because it's a novelty.
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Gerstein, David DK - ECN
Weekly no. 6
Message 109 -
2000-02-10 at 13:24:17
Hi AC!
If I can elaborate on your reviews so other countries know which
stories you're referring to...
>It starts out with a nice vicar-story.
Vicar sure did some cool art, but he's not the only man with the
plan! "Of Ice And Men" (D 99077) was in fact *written* by Lars Jensen (plot)
and Chris Spencer (script).
>The Mickey-story is by Petrucha and Rodriques and looks very nice. it's
>about farm animals and a "sky stone".
"With A Duck-Duck Here" (D 99039) is actually a bit of a take on
George Orwell, too. _Animal Farm_ is really one of the great works of
literature IMHO.
> There's Little Wolf story. And
>the title says that... in the 80'es it was always BB wolf who was the
>hero of those stories, but it's good that they changed that, cause he
>can't really be a hero, can he?
Big Bad may still be the hero- uh, "title character" now and then.
But you know, in fact the long-standing tradition here at Egmont has
always been to call the stories "Li'l Bad Wolf," and it's the *publishers*
who sometimes retitle a certain story BBW instead.
>There's a Manrique soccer-story
Donald in "A League Of His Own" (D 98218).
>Talking about Net, the second story with the Computer club is the last
>long story of the issue.
HDL in "CLINT" (D 99103).
>I think that the stories were supposed to have
>the main title Computer Club, but the weekly's editors goofed and
>titled the first story that. Now they call the series I(nformation)
>T(echnology)-Duckburg.
In English, this club is called The I-Team, which is as you see
derived from the same concept (as well as being a heroically bad pun on an
old TV adventure series... :-)
In case anyone's interested, Huey, Dewey, and Louie's neighborhood
chums in the club, by the way, are Benny (bird-faced boy), P. C. (cat-faced
girl) and Mack (the bigger boy).
If you liked this story, BTW, there will be another in the series
next month.
David Gerstein
<dge at ecn.egmont.com>
If I can elaborate on your reviews so other countries know which
stories you're referring to...
>It starts out with a nice vicar-story.
Vicar sure did some cool art, but he's not the only man with the
plan! "Of Ice And Men" (D 99077) was in fact *written* by Lars Jensen (plot)
and Chris Spencer (script).
>The Mickey-story is by Petrucha and Rodriques and looks very nice. it's
>about farm animals and a "sky stone".
"With A Duck-Duck Here" (D 99039) is actually a bit of a take on
George Orwell, too. _Animal Farm_ is really one of the great works of
literature IMHO.
> There's Little Wolf story. And
>the title says that... in the 80'es it was always BB wolf who was the
>hero of those stories, but it's good that they changed that, cause he
>can't really be a hero, can he?
Big Bad may still be the hero- uh, "title character" now and then.
But you know, in fact the long-standing tradition here at Egmont has
always been to call the stories "Li'l Bad Wolf," and it's the *publishers*
who sometimes retitle a certain story BBW instead.
>There's a Manrique soccer-story
Donald in "A League Of His Own" (D 98218).
>Talking about Net, the second story with the Computer club is the last
>long story of the issue.
HDL in "CLINT" (D 99103).
>I think that the stories were supposed to have
>the main title Computer Club, but the weekly's editors goofed and
>titled the first story that. Now they call the series I(nformation)
>T(echnology)-Duckburg.
In English, this club is called The I-Team, which is as you see
derived from the same concept (as well as being a heroically bad pun on an
old TV adventure series... :-)
In case anyone's interested, Huey, Dewey, and Louie's neighborhood
chums in the club, by the way, are Benny (bird-faced boy), P. C. (cat-faced
girl) and Mack (the bigger boy).
If you liked this story, BTW, there will be another in the series
next month.
David Gerstein
<dge at ecn.egmont.com>
Kriton Kyrimis
DCML digest, Vol 1 #78
Message 110 -
2000-02-10 at 13:52:05
ANDERS CHRISTIAN:
> Did they really make gerard as fat and round as Obelix is?
Yes! Have a look at http://www.asterix.tm.fr/lefilm/img/photo12.jpg
> "I'm not found, I'm just well
> upholstered" (as he says in a danish cartoon)
I suspect you mean "fat", not "found". In any case, in the Greek version
he says "I'm not fat; I have a low chest"!
HARRY and ARMANDO:
Thanks for the files you that you sent me. I have forwarded Don's
posting to Komix, letting them know that they have the dubious honor
of being probably the only European publication to use the "censored"
American version of the script for "The Tripple Distelfink".
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"When you travel around as much as *I* do, it's almost inevitable that you'll
run into yourself at some point!"
-----
> Did they really make gerard as fat and round as Obelix is?
Yes! Have a look at http://www.asterix.tm.fr/lefilm/img/photo12.jpg
> "I'm not found, I'm just well
> upholstered" (as he says in a danish cartoon)
I suspect you mean "fat", not "found". In any case, in the Greek version
he says "I'm not fat; I have a low chest"!
HARRY and ARMANDO:
Thanks for the files you that you sent me. I have forwarded Don's
posting to Komix, letting them know that they have the dubious honor
of being probably the only European publication to use the "censored"
American version of the script for "The Tripple Distelfink".
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"When you travel around as much as *I* do, it's almost inevitable that you'll
run into yourself at some point!"
-----
Fluks, H.W.
David - weekly no. 6
Message 111 -
2000-02-10 at 14:08:02
David:
> > There's Little Wolf story. And
> >the title says that... in the 80'es it was always BB wolf
> Big Bad may still be the hero- uh, "title character"
> now and then.
> But you know, in fact the long-standing tradition here
> at Egmont has
> always been to call the stories "Li'l Bad Wolf," and it's the
> *publishers*
> who sometimes retitle a certain story BBW instead.
In Holland, they changed from LBW stories to BBW somewhere in the mid-80s.
They now consistently use BBW as title character only. My guess is that they
don't want to keep explaining why LBW is called a BAD wolf, when he isn't.
--Harry.
> > There's Little Wolf story. And
> >the title says that... in the 80'es it was always BB wolf
> Big Bad may still be the hero- uh, "title character"
> now and then.
> But you know, in fact the long-standing tradition here
> at Egmont has
> always been to call the stories "Li'l Bad Wolf," and it's the
> *publishers*
> who sometimes retitle a certain story BBW instead.
In Holland, they changed from LBW stories to BBW somewhere in the mid-80s.
They now consistently use BBW as title character only. My guess is that they
don't want to keep explaining why LBW is called a BAD wolf, when he isn't.
--Harry.
Stahl, Joachim GE - EV
Anders Christian: Barks, Mangas
Message 112 -
2000-02-10 at 16:31:59
To Anders Christian:
>>Last year among the most popular stories were Don Rosa's "The
Treasure of the Ten Avatars" and "Escape from Forbidden Valley"< As if
there's no history in those... Ten Avatars! ;-)<
Right you are, so let's be more precise: It's not the stories with
any history-elements that are unpopular, but the historical Lo$-stories.
>Ha! Really shows how different readers are, huh? I for one think
they're disgusting. and some other Barks-fans has told me that too... Why is
it that barks has to be reworked into Manga, children books like they did in
DK 1987 or into Ducktales. Aren't they perfect as they are?<
That's the whole point: Our young and our old readers ARE different.
The young ones love the new Manga-stories, whereas we received a lot of
critic from our older readers. IMO the Barks stories ARE perfect as they
are, and I don't like their Manga-rework so much either. But that doesn't
count. I'm not working for the German Weekly to please myself, but to do the
best for the majority of our readers.
>BTW The super-action-comics seems to be the only Barks-comics in
you MM, that is sad to me. But I guess the german public doesn't like Barks
in MM? Only in albums then.<
Oh, no! There still are regular Barks stories in our MM (f. e.
"Watchman over Silk" in MM 02/00, "The Brave Stationmaster" in MM 04/00),
and they are generally still very popular. The only reason to published only
Barks-Mangas was that the many available non-Barks-Mangas were altered
Weekly-stories that had been published only two or three years ago, whereas
the original Barks-stories hadn't been published in the Weekly for at least
eight years.
Joachim
>>Last year among the most popular stories were Don Rosa's "The
Treasure of the Ten Avatars" and "Escape from Forbidden Valley"< As if
there's no history in those... Ten Avatars! ;-)<
Right you are, so let's be more precise: It's not the stories with
any history-elements that are unpopular, but the historical Lo$-stories.
>Ha! Really shows how different readers are, huh? I for one think
they're disgusting. and some other Barks-fans has told me that too... Why is
it that barks has to be reworked into Manga, children books like they did in
DK 1987 or into Ducktales. Aren't they perfect as they are?<
That's the whole point: Our young and our old readers ARE different.
The young ones love the new Manga-stories, whereas we received a lot of
critic from our older readers. IMO the Barks stories ARE perfect as they
are, and I don't like their Manga-rework so much either. But that doesn't
count. I'm not working for the German Weekly to please myself, but to do the
best for the majority of our readers.
>BTW The super-action-comics seems to be the only Barks-comics in
you MM, that is sad to me. But I guess the german public doesn't like Barks
in MM? Only in albums then.<
Oh, no! There still are regular Barks stories in our MM (f. e.
"Watchman over Silk" in MM 02/00, "The Brave Stationmaster" in MM 04/00),
and they are generally still very popular. The only reason to published only
Barks-Mangas was that the many available non-Barks-Mangas were altered
Weekly-stories that had been published only two or three years ago, whereas
the original Barks-stories hadn't been published in the Weekly for at least
eight years.
Joachim
Arie Fachrisal
Donald Duck: Is he a ...Duck? OT
Message 113 -
2000-02-10 at 16:52:31
> From: Archontis Pantsios <apantsi at binghamton.edu>
> Total net result? Donald Duck is 1/3 + 1/3 + (1/3)(1/3) =
> 7/9 human and only 2/9 Duck! :-)))))) QED
Mutated duckling??? :-D
Best,
Arie Fachrisal
> Total net result? Donald Duck is 1/3 + 1/3 + (1/3)(1/3) =
> 7/9 human and only 2/9 Duck! :-)))))) QED
Mutated duckling??? :-D
Best,
Arie Fachrisal
Abdulmonem Abbas
Duck vs Man
Message 114 -
2000-02-10 at 17:33:58
Arie Fachrisal wrote:
>DD and the ducks' characters are all to be meant as
>characters equal to men and not real men
i agree with you copletely,and just to give a closer look, i will ask
how would a duck have a car?? or how would a mouse have a dog??
actually i have a book in which this problem was discussed,and the
writer said that walt disney create a character shaped as aduck but he
cut all relations between that duck and the duck world in general, also
i remember a sroty in which DD was sinking in a lake and shouting " help
me i can't swim".
>DD and the ducks' characters are all to be meant as
>characters equal to men and not real men
i agree with you copletely,and just to give a closer look, i will ask
how would a duck have a car?? or how would a mouse have a dog??
actually i have a book in which this problem was discussed,and the
writer said that walt disney create a character shaped as aduck but he
cut all relations between that duck and the duck world in general, also
i remember a sroty in which DD was sinking in a lake and shouting " help
me i can't swim".
Santiago Garcia Banhos
Donald Duck: Is he a ...Duck?
Message 115 -
2000-02-10 at 20:22:23
Keeping on joking: What's DONALD?
Maybe he he's glad, maybe he's sad, maybe he's a little duck!
:-)
Santiago.
Maybe he he's glad, maybe he's sad, maybe he's a little duck!
:-)
Santiago.
Archontis Pantsios
Donald Duck a ...computer?
Message 116 -
2000-02-10 at 22:34:40
HARY:
>Interesting way of reasoning. Using that, I can prove that my PC is human.
>Or anything else, for that matter, as long as:
>
>> a) it does not walk like a duck;
>> b) it does not talk like a duck;
>> c) it does not look like a duck.
Sure, only problem is that Donald Duck could be either a Duck or a human
(or both in some proportion, given our discussion). In my pseudo-analysis,
the two events are not mutually exclusive (part human, part Duck), but they
surely are *EXHAUSTIVE*!!! Your computer (or anything else for that matter)
are not elements of my relevant sample space. :-) QED :-)
Cheers,
Archontis
Archontis L. Pantsios, Ph.D.
Visiting Associate Professor of Economics
Binghamton University
Binghamton, New York
USA
tel: (607)777-4726
>Interesting way of reasoning. Using that, I can prove that my PC is human.
>Or anything else, for that matter, as long as:
>
>> a) it does not walk like a duck;
>> b) it does not talk like a duck;
>> c) it does not look like a duck.
Sure, only problem is that Donald Duck could be either a Duck or a human
(or both in some proportion, given our discussion). In my pseudo-analysis,
the two events are not mutually exclusive (part human, part Duck), but they
surely are *EXHAUSTIVE*!!! Your computer (or anything else for that matter)
are not elements of my relevant sample space. :-) QED :-)
Cheers,
Archontis
Archontis L. Pantsios, Ph.D.
Visiting Associate Professor of Economics
Binghamton University
Binghamton, New York
USA
tel: (607)777-4726
Frank Stajano
Journal de Mickey
Message 117 -
2000-02-10 at 23:02:15
Someone I don't know sent me the following query in private mail. Sounds a
bit like an investor, and I don't care much for that race (so ignore the
bit about value). On the other hand he might just like the comics (there's
always hope), so if anyone has any info on the comic itself please reply to
the list since that's always interesting anyway.
>Hi Frank, I have obtained a French comic entitled Le Journal De Mickey
>1934. First issue No 1. "L' Hebdomadaire Des Jeunes".
>If you cold give me any information and approximate value, It would be
>greatly appreciated. It has 4 pages with a colour cover and back.
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
bit like an investor, and I don't care much for that race (so ignore the
bit about value). On the other hand he might just like the comics (there's
always hope), so if anyone has any info on the comic itself please reply to
the list since that's always interesting anyway.
>Hi Frank, I have obtained a French comic entitled Le Journal De Mickey
>1934. First issue No 1. "L' Hebdomadaire Des Jeunes".
>If you cold give me any information and approximate value, It would be
>greatly appreciated. It has 4 pages with a colour cover and back.
Frank (http://i.am/filologo.disneyano/) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
Francois Willot
Journal de Mickey
Message 118 -
2000-02-11 at 00:16:10
Frank Stajano a ?crit:
>
> Someone I don't know sent me the following query in private mail. Sounds a
> bit like an investor, and I don't care much for that race (so ignore the
> bit about value). On the other hand he might just like the comics (there's
> always hope), so if anyone has any info on the comic itself please reply to
> the list since that's always interesting anyway.
>
> >Hi Frank, I have obtained a French comic entitled Le Journal De Mickey
> >1934. First issue No 1. "L' Hebdomadaire Des Jeunes".
> >If you cold give me any information and approximate value, It would be
> >greatly appreciated. It has 4 pages with a colour cover and back.
This issue happens to be listed in the Disney Comics Database:
JMAG 1 [date:1934-10-21] [inx:FWi]
JMAG 1aZS 34-03-11 0h3 TOs AT -- La famille vole-au-vent
[desc:Birds of a Feather] [enddate:1934-06-17] [trans:L?on S?e?]
[layout;3c] [Strip du 34-03-11] [part:1]
JMAG 1bZM 34-03-11 0h4 TOs FG TTh MM Mickey [xapp:MM]
[enddate:1934-04-29] [layout;4c] [part:1]
(That is, it only contains a Mickey and a Silly Symphony Sunday pages
from 1934, by Al Taliaferro and Gottfredson. There are also various non
Disney American strips not listed here, and editorials).
Francois (http://www2.ec-lille.fr/~willot/coa/cgi-bin/search.uk.htm)
>
> Someone I don't know sent me the following query in private mail. Sounds a
> bit like an investor, and I don't care much for that race (so ignore the
> bit about value). On the other hand he might just like the comics (there's
> always hope), so if anyone has any info on the comic itself please reply to
> the list since that's always interesting anyway.
>
> >Hi Frank, I have obtained a French comic entitled Le Journal De Mickey
> >1934. First issue No 1. "L' Hebdomadaire Des Jeunes".
> >If you cold give me any information and approximate value, It would be
> >greatly appreciated. It has 4 pages with a colour cover and back.
This issue happens to be listed in the Disney Comics Database:
JMAG 1 [date:1934-10-21] [inx:FWi]
JMAG 1aZS 34-03-11 0h3 TOs AT -- La famille vole-au-vent
[desc:Birds of a Feather] [enddate:1934-06-17] [trans:L?on S?e?]
[layout;3c] [Strip du 34-03-11] [part:1]
JMAG 1bZM 34-03-11 0h4 TOs FG TTh MM Mickey [xapp:MM]
[enddate:1934-04-29] [layout;4c] [part:1]
(That is, it only contains a Mickey and a Silly Symphony Sunday pages
from 1934, by Al Taliaferro and Gottfredson. There are also various non
Disney American strips not listed here, and editorials).
Francois (http://www2.ec-lille.fr/~willot/coa/cgi-bin/search.uk.htm)
Oliv
Andrew Harris : Super Picsou Géant
Message 119 -
2000-02-11 at 00:24:20
>Are these the French Disney comics? I can't even read the thing - I just
>got it because it's a novelty.
Yes, this is one of the French comics.
Oliv
>got it because it's a novelty.
Yes, this is one of the French comics.
Oliv
Ridout
Obelix
Message 120 -
2000-02-11 at 01:28:41
>I guess you haven't seen last year's "Asterix and >Obelix vs. Caesar",
>then. Gerard Depardieu looked exactly like >Obelix. (OK, he didn't have
>a bulb-like nose, but believe me, you'd never >notice.)
Nope, I had no idea. However I'm guessing it was probably a French movie
which would explain why. It is very difficult to find English versions of
Asterix movies around here and I haven't even managed to see the animated
ones yet (I've only found them on ebay, and I've binged on comic books and
the like there so much that I'm pretty much out of cash now). I'd *really*
like to see that though!
I guess dropping out of French class was a bad idea :-(
ok, now I'll try to stop getting so off topic...
rebecca
>then. Gerard Depardieu looked exactly like >Obelix. (OK, he didn't have
>a bulb-like nose, but believe me, you'd never >notice.)
Nope, I had no idea. However I'm guessing it was probably a French movie
which would explain why. It is very difficult to find English versions of
Asterix movies around here and I haven't even managed to see the animated
ones yet (I've only found them on ebay, and I've binged on comic books and
the like there so much that I'm pretty much out of cash now). I'd *really*
like to see that though!
I guess dropping out of French class was a bad idea :-(
ok, now I'll try to stop getting so off topic...
rebecca