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Sandven, Halvor
Hello!

I must say that I really enjoyed the two latest issues of the norwegian
weekly, and this mostly because of the Scarpa-stories which have been
discussed several times in this list. Last week (issue 7) the story 'History
Re-Petes Itself' was published, a story with good script and beautiful
drawings. I also like the small details, like the drawings of Pete from his
Gottfredsons days. It made me wonder, these details, are they something that
the writer (Gerstein) comes up with, or is it the artist that puts these
things in the art, just for kicks?

This week's (issue 8) old Scarpa-story from 1955 (Il carnevale di Paperin
PaperoneI) was also very good. In this issue we see HDL fighting among
themselves and getting sick beacuse of eating too much chocolate. The B-boys
are smoking, and they don't even get caught at the end of the story. Such
tings are seldom seen in modern stories, and I found them quite refreshing.
I think this story is the oldest Scapa-story I have read, but looking at
'the last Balaboo' it looks like 'Ttavole di raccordo per Almanacco
Topolino' is the first mouse/duck-story he made. Is this right, and what's
this story about? Is this story reprinted anywhere?

Does anyone know if there are plans to publish more of this artist's new or
old stories i Scandianvia? I certainly hope so!

---Halvor

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Daniel Van Eijmeren
HENRI KUNNE, 22 FEBRUARY 2000:

> [Officer For a Day] True, but first, I think Strobl is living a bit *too*
> much in Barks' (and Rosa's)shadow nowadays, and second, I'd like to
> compare both versions.

I've heard that Strobl's earlier art was much better. Towards the end
of the 1950s (1958?) the paper (Strathmore?) on which the artists worked
was replaced by cheaper paper, which made drawing and erasing difficult.
In the early 1960s (around Uncle Scrooge No. 40?), also the size in which
the artists had to draw was reduced. Someone told me that some artists who
use to make made good art, turned into a very bad artists at that time.

Is there someone here who has some information on this? Are there for
example art comparisons of artists who worked for Western from, let's say,
1955 to 1965? And if so, are there remarkable changes in their art during
this period?

Greetings,

--- Daniel
http://www.acciom.se/barks/index.html
Michael Naiman
Reminder: there's still time to send your Birthday Greetings to Carl.
either via email or snail mail
Francois Willot
> This week's (issue 8) old Scarpa-story from 1955 (Il carnevale di Paperin
> PaperoneI) was also very good. In this issue we see HDL fighting among
> themselves and getting sick beacuse of eating too much chocolate. The B-boys
> are smoking, and they don't even get caught at the end of the story. Such
> tings are seldom seen in modern stories, and I found them quite refreshing.

Indeed, this story is quite "refreshing" and good; and I hope Hachette
will publish it. The "B-Boys" are supposed to be the Beagle Boys I
think, but Scarpa drew them a bit differently (like the Beagle Boys who
appear in two consecutive Barks 10-pager have a very different look than
the classical Barks Beagle Boys).

This story was reprinted in the latest issue of "Zio Paperone" together
with an interesting article by Luca Boschi on the first appearances of
Scrooge in Italian stories (after the first American but non-Barks
appearances of Scrooge).

The article features a panel of a story drawn by the mysterious Rino
Anzi, and mentions "Alberto Testa" as the writer of "Paperino e le
onorificenze".

> I think this story is the oldest Scapa-story I have read, but looking at
> 'the last Balaboo' it looks like 'Ttavole di raccordo per Almanacco
> Topolino' is the first mouse/duck-story he made. Is this right, and what's
> this story about? Is this story reprinted anywhere?

The "Tavole di Raccordo" pages are a set of comic pages drawn to connect
the end of certain stories (published in the same issue, here Almanacco
Topolino) with the beginning of the next story. It doesn't constitute a
real story by itself.

While these "glue pages" are the first Scarpa "story" published in
Almanacco Topolino, I think the real first Italian Scarpa story is a
Snow White story
(check http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?I+TL+78-A)

After this one,
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?I+TL+97-B
is his first Donald story.

Francois (http://www2.ec-lille.fr/~willot/coa/cgi-bin/search.uk.htm)
Francois Willot
> Some time ago I commented on this list I had troubles requesting info
> about subscriptions to Italian editors. Yesterday, at last, I recieved
> a posting from "The Walt Disney Company Italia" reporting me the
> editions actually available & payment ways accepted, which I quote
> here for anyone interested:
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> List of prices for a one-year subscription:
>
> Title isues/year Ordinary mail Air mail
> ================================================================
> I GRANDE CLASSICI 12 75100 84100
> I CALSSICI 12 62100 69300
> ZIO PAPERONE 12 74200 81400
> I MAESTRI DISNEY No subscriptions admitted
> (we already know the reasons why :-( )
> TOPOPLINO 52 208200 239400
> (all prices in Italian Lire)

To anyone interested in subscribing to Italian comics, I would like to
add that it is also possible to subscribe to other comics, for instance
"Mega 2000". They accept such subscriptions from france at least. Sorry
I can not give you any price right now.

> Way of payment for foreign countries:
> -International check to:
> THE WALT DISNEY COMPANY ITALIA
> Via Sandro Sandri, 1
> 20121 Milano
> -Visa credit card (send 16 digits + date of outdate)
>
> Other data of interest:
> Tel. Subscription Office: (039) 2020350 (Beware: as someone remarked,
> they maybe speak only Italian!)
> Fax: (02) 29085190

Just a note on the subscription office phone number: it took me some
time before realizing that while "039" is the international number of
Italy, 039 here really is part of the Italian phone number, so from
France you would dial 00 39 039 2020350...

Francois (http://www2.ec-lille.fr/~willot/coa/cgi-bin/search.uk.htm)
Daniel Van Eijmeren
HENRI KUNNE, 22 FEBRUARY 2000:

> [Officer For a Day] Page 2 presents us a black-and-white
> reproduction of the Gold Key comic containing the Strobl story.
> No issue number is to be seen, but it has the title of the
> story: "Donald Duck, Officer for a Day ". Guess that original
> must be paid with gold now, but does anybody know about some
> reprint? Any translation is welcome, too. Can anybody help?

At Ebay ("http://www.ebay.com"), there are many old Barks comics for sale.
Sometimes there's also original art which I've never seen before. Maybe you
will find the comic there? I've no experience with Ebay or any other online
auction myself.

Does someone here know other online auctions which sell Barks comics and
original art?

Greetings,

--- Daniel
http://www.acciom.se/barks/index.html
Henri Kunne
Botto Armando wrote:

>>> Actually, the reprint in ATM ("Albi di Topolino Mensili") 72 is very
recent(October 1999)... So, maybe that's the issue to be looking for !
>> I guess so, but how to get at it, here in the Netherlands?
>I don't have the issue myself, but I can try to find it for you in
>second-hand comics stores. I don't know how easy it will be, but I'm
>sure it won't be expensive at all (ATM cover price is less than $ 1 ;-)).
>Ciao, Armando

That's really nice, I hope I'll be able to pay you for it.... Oh, well, it's
not quite sure you're going to actually find it, so as we say here in
my country: let us not sell the skin before the bear has been shot!

Greetings,
Henri Kunne
Fernando Ventura
Today I bought a Italian Disney Comic into a library. In that edition there
is a old history that I think is american. There aren't any code, but I read
something draw by this artist before in some brazilians comics. I really
like his(or her)style and i'm very interisting in learn something about
he/she. I can't put scans off it now, because my mouse is not working, so I
can't use my scanner. If someone have this comic and know who made this
comic, or something more, please, say to me!!!
Thanks!!! Fernando Ventura fernandopventura at uol.com
Gli Albi di Topolino #62 decembre 1998-"Paperina e il primo volo", 13
pages, first published in Topolino #647 from April,21,1968.
Francesco Spreafico
From: "Fernando Ventura" <fernandopventura at uol.com.br>

> Today I bought a Italian Disney Comic into a library. In that edition
there
> is a old history that I think is american. There aren't any code, but I
read
> something draw by this artist before in some brazilians comics. I really
> like his(or her)style and i'm very interisting in learn something about
> he/she. I can't put scans off it now, because my mouse is not working, so
I
> can't use my scanner. If someone have this comic and know who made this
> comic, or something more, please, say to me!!!
> Gli Albi di Topolino #62 decembre 1998-"Paperina e il primo volo", 13
> pages, first published in Topolino #647 from April,21,1968.

S 67119, pages: 13, layout 3, writer: Dick Kinney?, art: Al Hubbard
Paperina e il primo volo

So, you're right, this artist is a GREAT artist, Al Hubbard!

If you have access to recent Italian comics there you could give a look at:

Zio Paperone #118 (July 1999) with:

S 66148 7 DKi AH Paperoga pollicoltore
S 66086 11 DKi AH 01 Paperbond in "Il caso delle perle rubate"
S 67018 8 DKi AH Paperoga "lupo" di porto

The new version of the Almanacco Topolino #4 (December 1999)

S 66095 11 DKi AH Paperoga mente deduttiva

On ZP 118 you can also find (in Italian) an interesting article written by
list-member Luca Boschi with infos about this artist (who died in 1984)

Bye

Sprea
Sonia_dyer
Does someone here know other online auctions which sell Barks comics
and original art?

Hi Daniel-
Check these out:
www.amazon.com (click on auction, then search for scrooge)
www.ubid.com (click on art)

I've seen disney duck stuff on both recently.

Sonia
Henri Kunne
Francois Willot wrote:

>> Some time ago I commented on this list I had troubles requesting info
>> about subscriptions to Italian editors. Yesterday, at last, I recieved
>> a posting from "The Walt Disney Company Italia" reporting me the
>> editions actually available & payment ways accepted, which I quote
>> here for anyone interested:
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>> List of prices for a one-year subscription:
>>
>> Title isues/year Ordinary mail Air mail
>> ================================================================
>> I GRANDE CLASSICI 12 75100 84100
>> I CALSSICI 12 62100 69300
>> ZIO PAPERONE 12 74200 81400
>> I MAESTRI DISNEY No subscriptions admitted
>> (we already know the reasons why :-( )

Did I miss something? No, I don't know! Why not?

>> TOPOPLINO 52 208200 239400
>> (all prices in Italian Lire)

I regret it being no estimate given in any other currency, dollars if need
be, but lires are, in a sense, 'unreadable' to non-Italians. How much
is all this?

>
>To anyone interested in subscribing to Italian comics, I would like to
>add that it is also possible to subscribe to other comics, for instance
>"Mega 2000". They accept such subscriptions from france at least. Sorry
>I can not give you any price right now.
>
>> Way of payment for foreign countries:
>> -International check to:

Can't it be an Eurocheck, within the EU??
Jorgenb
Hello, list

I'll be back with a few more reviews soon, probably on monday. Have
had a lot to catch up with for a while.

Arie had a question about my name, which Anders answered correctly.
For some reason the body of the letters are translated from eight-bit
character sets to seven-bit (which the protocol can handle), and then
back to eight-bit again, while headers are translated from eight-bit
to seven-bit, and _not_ back to eight-bit. This messes up the letters
which are not in the English alphabet (and the "good old" ASCII
(ISO-646) character set).

And no, I'm certainly not offended. If anyone should be, it's the people
who made those protocols many years ago, without thinking of all the
alphabets that have more letters than the English one.

Personally I'm much more offended by people who _don't_ ask questions,
and therefore just walk around assuming things, and misinforming other
people.

And, David! That was a nice one you had in last weeks weekly! It was a
great thrill to see Scarpa there. And nice work on the script too. More
of that, please :-)

J?rgen
Francois Willot
Henri Kunne a ?crit:

> >> I MAESTRI DISNEY No subscriptions admitted
> >> (we already know the reasons why :-( )
>
> Did I miss something? No, I don't know! Why not?

Because the title has been cancelled.

Francois (http://www2.ec-lille.fr/~willot/coa/index.uk.html)
Lascif
>I regret it being no estimate given in any other currency, dollars if need
>be, but lires are, in a sense, 'unreadable' to non-Italians. How much
>is all this?
1$ is approximatly 1770 Lit
You should consult more recent exchange rate
if you'd like to to know the exact value of 1$.

>Can't it be an Eurocheck, within the EU??
That'll be available in January 2002.
(It is already possible to use "euro"checks,
but it's very expensive)

bye bye
oliv

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Arie Fachrisal
Hi all, it's getting mighty quiet here. Just thought i stop by and ask some
queries to liven things up a bit:-)
About Brer Rabbit, i heard the stories was somewhat forbidden to print in US
or somerhing like that??? It's because of the folktales if i'm not wrong.
Can anyone please tell me what's it all about? And are there any new Brer
Rabbit stories? Not his fan, just delighted to see one story of Brer every
two or three issues.
And also, i am a bit confused of the Lo$ story. Perhaps anyone can lighten
me up a little? In Barks' Christmas on Bear Mountain and Lo$ 12, Scrooge is
two different personalities. In Bear Mt, Scrooge has the strength and ill
will to "test" DD but in Lo$ Scrooge meeting DD for the first time seemed so
"helpless" or "powerless"??? How can this be??? i know my Barks knowledges
are minimum but i am really confused about this one so i thought i'll ask.

Thanks in advance,
Arie Fachrisal
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