>From: "Stefan Persson" <reimersholme at hotmail.com>
>Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 11:14:00 CET
>
>>From: pierrebi at crosswinds.net
>>Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2000 12:51:53
>
>>Are These written in italian, or should these be translated?
>
>Do the writers speek Italian? If not, the stories are most surely written in
>some other language. I think most of the writers don't speek Italian.
Scarpa was, is and will be one of the best, may the best one, after Barks,
Disney writer. He speek italian, because he is italian. I like the nice
italian names he used for some character: Paperetta Ye Ye, l'avvocato
Cavillo Busillis, Atomino Bip Bip.
Filo Sganga (Jubal Cock) is a "copy" of one of the best italian actor in
'50-'60 Italian commedy movies: Alberto Sordi
My question was:
Of course Scarpa writes in italian, but his stories will not be published
in Italy. Maybe he quarreled with Disney Italia, so that i will not give
them the original italian version of his new stories, and Disney Italia
will have to translate them from an other language. I like Italy, Europe an
World, but i would like to read the Scarpa's stories in italian.
Sorry for may bad english!
Pietro Reynaud Bersanino
========================
A person with a passion expresse it in every little act of his.
Therefore he who is possessed by nonviolence will express it in the family
circle, in his dealing with neighbours, in his business, in pubblic meetings,
and in his dealings with opponents.
(M. K. Gandhi)
Author
Topic: 200002
(230 messages)
Pierrebi
Italian and Scarpa
Message 16 -
2000-02-02 at 13:29:08
Anders Christian Sivebaek
Harry, Theresa, Scarpa, Teme (70)
Message 17 -
2000-02-02 at 14:45:42
HARRY
> The page about the "golden snow of the Sampo" is a total mystery to
me.
> Probably a reference to the Kalevala that only insiders would
recognise?
Sorry to say so, but to me it seemed obvious. The snow of Sampo is what
made the finns be so poetic. Am I wrong? If the expression has an
origin in the Kalevala i too would like to know.
Isn't Donald Duck Extra 36 pages? if they leave out the ads it can fit
in, even with that 34th page if they like to.
> ("Ha, ha, and ha!")
That's one of the best quotes.
Theresa Wiegert
> What!!!?? Are they out of their minds???
Seems so. To say no to those stories, which are some of the best by
Don, and which Don likes to do best, is mighty crazy..
> I wonder what the ratio "grown up"-readers to kid-readers is...
I think they say that half of the readers are more than 18. But not
only grown-ups likes Don's Lo$-stories. Small kids likes books with
many details, and Don's stories has many details... I wonder who ...
Picsou is a nice mag yes, like Komix is.
> At least they didn't censor the Lo$ stories with guns like egmont
did.
Egmont didn't censor the guns in Lo$ chapter ? and ?. Disney made
Gladstone tell Rosa to retouch them...
> oh well, back to my french verbs...
Bon chance:-) !
SCARPA:
Are you guys sure that the Scarpa story isn't coming as an extra to
issue 6 in scandinavia? It sure looks like a Scarpa story and tghe
tittle is something with Donald Mc Duck...
TEME:
I wonder if Don would still be one of the candidates to the presidental
election, that you mentioned by accident?
Is the book available in stores again or what?
> The page about the "golden snow of the Sampo" is a total mystery to
me.
> Probably a reference to the Kalevala that only insiders would
recognise?
Sorry to say so, but to me it seemed obvious. The snow of Sampo is what
made the finns be so poetic. Am I wrong? If the expression has an
origin in the Kalevala i too would like to know.
Isn't Donald Duck Extra 36 pages? if they leave out the ads it can fit
in, even with that 34th page if they like to.
> ("Ha, ha, and ha!")
That's one of the best quotes.
Theresa Wiegert
> What!!!?? Are they out of their minds???
Seems so. To say no to those stories, which are some of the best by
Don, and which Don likes to do best, is mighty crazy..
> I wonder what the ratio "grown up"-readers to kid-readers is...
I think they say that half of the readers are more than 18. But not
only grown-ups likes Don's Lo$-stories. Small kids likes books with
many details, and Don's stories has many details... I wonder who ...
Picsou is a nice mag yes, like Komix is.
> At least they didn't censor the Lo$ stories with guns like egmont
did.
Egmont didn't censor the guns in Lo$ chapter ? and ?. Disney made
Gladstone tell Rosa to retouch them...
> oh well, back to my french verbs...
Bon chance:-) !
SCARPA:
Are you guys sure that the Scarpa story isn't coming as an extra to
issue 6 in scandinavia? It sure looks like a Scarpa story and tghe
tittle is something with Donald Mc Duck...
TEME:
I wonder if Don would still be one of the candidates to the presidental
election, that you mentioned by accident?
Is the book available in stores again or what?
Don Rosa
Digest #70
Message 18 -
2000-02-02 at 16:33:21
From: Marco Barlotti
Subject: eBay
>the main point about eBay is that the winning bidder does *not* pay the
>amount of his bid, but he simply pays one increment over the
second-highest
>bidder's bid, probably $1 or $2.50 at these levels. See?)
>>>Huh? Could you explain this a little, please?
Maybe I left out a key word that made the above confusing. I should have
said "probably $1 or $2.50 *more*". Possibly you thought I meant the top
bidder would get the item for $1 or $2.50 *total*.
But it's very simple. The best thing about bidding on eBay is that the top
bidder only pays one pre-set incremental amount over the second-highest
bidder's bid. In low bids it's only half-a-buck. When you get up to several
hundred bucks, it might be $5 or so. If the second-highest bidder has bid
$200, the top bidder will get the item for $205 even if he actually placed
a bid of a million bucks. See? Well, I don't know how to say it any
plainer.
From: "Anders Christian Sivebaek"
> After that (*months* from now), I'll begin doing a new "Lo$" story
> for PICSOU (since Egmont says they don't want those anymore).
>>>This I don't understand... They don't want the stories? why? They are
said to say that the readers don't like the stories? I don't understand
that, as i thought they were among the most popular stories by you.
It puzzles me, too, especially after the stories were deemed so popular
that they published a best-selling hardback collection of them in numerous
countries. But they have their methods for determining these reader
preferences and they are the boss.
I get a lot of fanmail by post or computer, a daily flow, and every single
message I get starts out by saying that the "Lo$" are their favorite
stories. No, I don't mean most of the letters say that... I mean
absolutley, literally *100%* of the letters say that. Every single one. And
aside from that, those are the stories that I like doing the most, and I
need to concentrate on the parts of this job that I like to keep from
getting too frustrated by the general Disney system that I work under.
Egmont has told me (and I don't guess there's any reason that this is a
"secret" since it's definitely what they say) that the readers do not like
my "Lo$" stories or my other complex history-based treasure hunts and
adventures, and that they will only accept action and slapstick stories
from me. On the other hand, publishers like France and Finland and Greece
and Italy all tell me that the stories that their readers most enjoy are
clearly my "Lo$" and those historical adventures. And I need to keep doing
those kinds of stories since I would get very bored with only doing
action/slapstick stuff *all* the time. There's not much of a challenge to
that kinda stuff. But the solution is simple. I will work part-time for
Egmont and part-time for people like PICSOU and others.
From: "Fluks, H.W."
Subject: Kalevala, once more
>>>And that brings me to a general criticism about the story:
In this story, as in some other recent Rosa stories, Donald is a real dope.
Normally, I never presume to "argue" with anyone who criticizes my work. I
have learned that there's no possible way to please everyone, and it's
pointless to try. But when criticism doesn't seem to make sense, I need to
inquire. Where is Donald acting like a "dope"? I was afraid I had $crooge
acting far too mindlessly greedy through the whole story and never doing
anything useful, and I even had the Nephews contributing nothing to the
story but being underfoot after they read a few lines out of their
Guidebook. I actually have Donald criticizing U$ for his greed all the way
through and have DD do *all* the meaningful acts in the whole story,
placing DD on a much higher moral plain. It's Donald who has the warmth of
Inner Spirit to melt the Mystic Ice when U$ can't. It's Donald whose
selfless heroics enables him to find the Magic Harp making everything
possible. And, fer the luvva Mike, it's Donald Duck who saves Finland (and
implied in my original script, the rest of the planet) from a rampaging
evil sorceress and her monster. I don't know how I can depict Donald better
than that -- sorry! Sure, he is a reluctant hero, and his actions are
sometimes clumsy -- this is "humor". If I don't do it that way, I end up
with a "drama".
>>>And Scrooge is too harsh on him. This doesn't fit in my personal view of
the
character.
Oh, *that* won't change in my stories. DD and U$ will always bicker! U$
will always treat DD like dirt because he envies him. And DD will always
call U$ a greedy bastard because he thinks U$ is more successful than him,
which he isn't.
>>>BTW, I liked the part that Donald "swims like a duck".
This is why I respond to your comments. I'm wondering if the German text
made Donald out to be this "dope" you mention, because there was nothing in
my script about him "swimming like a duck". My script made a reference to
the fact that the Kalevala legend stated that only a "blue duck" could
retreive the lost harp, and Donald is called on to perform this other
important function. But it had nothing to do with him doing any swimming,
"like a duck" or otherwise.
>>>it's strange that some things
aren't explained. For instance, why does Magica arrive in that big
wooden(?)
bird construction.
??? This is all clearly explained in the preceding pages! Either you're
telling me the Germans skipped all that, or some pages were stuck together
in your edition. Or... did you say you could read German? Maybe that's the
problem? (I'm not being sarcastic -- your message wasn't clear as to
whether you could read German well or not.)
>>>Talking about that bird construction: on the splash panel on page 20,
the
drawing of Magica looks quite impossible: Magica's body is *before* the
pole, but her right wing is behind the ship? I don't see where that wing
could be attached to Magica's body...
Ah, that's easilly explained -- "artistic license". That panel duplicates a
famous Finnish painting, as do several others. In the original painting,
the bird-witch is in that exact position, only the wing is up high out of
the action. I didn't have room to get the wing up above $crooge and it
would have covered him. So I had to tuck the wooden feathers back further
than they could hang. I could have done more fore-shortening perspective,
but that would have made the wing harder to see and it was an important
element.
>>>The page about the "golden snow of the Sampo" is a total mystery to me.
Probably a reference to the Kalevala that only insiders would recognise?
My script explained all that was happening on that page. No secret
knowledge required.
Better you should make a criticism that I understand, like tell me my art
is bad or filled with "needless and irritating detail" -- then I could
agree and stop being confused.
From: Theresa Wiegert
Subject: Egmont and Lo$
>>>At least they didn't censor the Lo$ stories with guns like egmont did.
No, no, that wasn't Egmont. You're thinking of what Disney did to
Gladstone's edition.
From: "Jack IP"
Subject: U$ in North America
>>>Ever since U$ is no longer available in North America, I was wondering
if
anyone has any news about anyone willing to pick up the title. I badly
need
my fix of U$ and the fact that Don is still pumping them out (good thing)
and I can't get them (bad thing) depresses me greatly.
You and others need to brace yourself for the possibility/probability that
there may never again be Disney comics in the English language. At least I
have no optimism on the matter, seeing the level of current NONactivity in
the process and knowing the attitudes of the licensing corporation. And if
that depresses you, think how it makes ME feel! Never again will I see one
of my own stories in a language I can read, despite all the work I put into
them! And there's nuthin' I can do about it. (I told you there are *lots*
of frustrating aspects of this job that I need to overcome... doing "Lo$"
stories is one way to enjoy it more... then not being able to *read* that
same "Lo$" story makes it even more frustrating... never-ending cycle...)
Subject: eBay
>the main point about eBay is that the winning bidder does *not* pay the
>amount of his bid, but he simply pays one increment over the
second-highest
>bidder's bid, probably $1 or $2.50 at these levels. See?)
>>>Huh? Could you explain this a little, please?
Maybe I left out a key word that made the above confusing. I should have
said "probably $1 or $2.50 *more*". Possibly you thought I meant the top
bidder would get the item for $1 or $2.50 *total*.
But it's very simple. The best thing about bidding on eBay is that the top
bidder only pays one pre-set incremental amount over the second-highest
bidder's bid. In low bids it's only half-a-buck. When you get up to several
hundred bucks, it might be $5 or so. If the second-highest bidder has bid
$200, the top bidder will get the item for $205 even if he actually placed
a bid of a million bucks. See? Well, I don't know how to say it any
plainer.
From: "Anders Christian Sivebaek"
> After that (*months* from now), I'll begin doing a new "Lo$" story
> for PICSOU (since Egmont says they don't want those anymore).
>>>This I don't understand... They don't want the stories? why? They are
said to say that the readers don't like the stories? I don't understand
that, as i thought they were among the most popular stories by you.
It puzzles me, too, especially after the stories were deemed so popular
that they published a best-selling hardback collection of them in numerous
countries. But they have their methods for determining these reader
preferences and they are the boss.
I get a lot of fanmail by post or computer, a daily flow, and every single
message I get starts out by saying that the "Lo$" are their favorite
stories. No, I don't mean most of the letters say that... I mean
absolutley, literally *100%* of the letters say that. Every single one. And
aside from that, those are the stories that I like doing the most, and I
need to concentrate on the parts of this job that I like to keep from
getting too frustrated by the general Disney system that I work under.
Egmont has told me (and I don't guess there's any reason that this is a
"secret" since it's definitely what they say) that the readers do not like
my "Lo$" stories or my other complex history-based treasure hunts and
adventures, and that they will only accept action and slapstick stories
from me. On the other hand, publishers like France and Finland and Greece
and Italy all tell me that the stories that their readers most enjoy are
clearly my "Lo$" and those historical adventures. And I need to keep doing
those kinds of stories since I would get very bored with only doing
action/slapstick stuff *all* the time. There's not much of a challenge to
that kinda stuff. But the solution is simple. I will work part-time for
Egmont and part-time for people like PICSOU and others.
From: "Fluks, H.W."
Subject: Kalevala, once more
>>>And that brings me to a general criticism about the story:
In this story, as in some other recent Rosa stories, Donald is a real dope.
Normally, I never presume to "argue" with anyone who criticizes my work. I
have learned that there's no possible way to please everyone, and it's
pointless to try. But when criticism doesn't seem to make sense, I need to
inquire. Where is Donald acting like a "dope"? I was afraid I had $crooge
acting far too mindlessly greedy through the whole story and never doing
anything useful, and I even had the Nephews contributing nothing to the
story but being underfoot after they read a few lines out of their
Guidebook. I actually have Donald criticizing U$ for his greed all the way
through and have DD do *all* the meaningful acts in the whole story,
placing DD on a much higher moral plain. It's Donald who has the warmth of
Inner Spirit to melt the Mystic Ice when U$ can't. It's Donald whose
selfless heroics enables him to find the Magic Harp making everything
possible. And, fer the luvva Mike, it's Donald Duck who saves Finland (and
implied in my original script, the rest of the planet) from a rampaging
evil sorceress and her monster. I don't know how I can depict Donald better
than that -- sorry! Sure, he is a reluctant hero, and his actions are
sometimes clumsy -- this is "humor". If I don't do it that way, I end up
with a "drama".
>>>And Scrooge is too harsh on him. This doesn't fit in my personal view of
the
character.
Oh, *that* won't change in my stories. DD and U$ will always bicker! U$
will always treat DD like dirt because he envies him. And DD will always
call U$ a greedy bastard because he thinks U$ is more successful than him,
which he isn't.
>>>BTW, I liked the part that Donald "swims like a duck".
This is why I respond to your comments. I'm wondering if the German text
made Donald out to be this "dope" you mention, because there was nothing in
my script about him "swimming like a duck". My script made a reference to
the fact that the Kalevala legend stated that only a "blue duck" could
retreive the lost harp, and Donald is called on to perform this other
important function. But it had nothing to do with him doing any swimming,
"like a duck" or otherwise.
>>>it's strange that some things
aren't explained. For instance, why does Magica arrive in that big
wooden(?)
bird construction.
??? This is all clearly explained in the preceding pages! Either you're
telling me the Germans skipped all that, or some pages were stuck together
in your edition. Or... did you say you could read German? Maybe that's the
problem? (I'm not being sarcastic -- your message wasn't clear as to
whether you could read German well or not.)
>>>Talking about that bird construction: on the splash panel on page 20,
the
drawing of Magica looks quite impossible: Magica's body is *before* the
pole, but her right wing is behind the ship? I don't see where that wing
could be attached to Magica's body...
Ah, that's easilly explained -- "artistic license". That panel duplicates a
famous Finnish painting, as do several others. In the original painting,
the bird-witch is in that exact position, only the wing is up high out of
the action. I didn't have room to get the wing up above $crooge and it
would have covered him. So I had to tuck the wooden feathers back further
than they could hang. I could have done more fore-shortening perspective,
but that would have made the wing harder to see and it was an important
element.
>>>The page about the "golden snow of the Sampo" is a total mystery to me.
Probably a reference to the Kalevala that only insiders would recognise?
My script explained all that was happening on that page. No secret
knowledge required.
Better you should make a criticism that I understand, like tell me my art
is bad or filled with "needless and irritating detail" -- then I could
agree and stop being confused.
From: Theresa Wiegert
Subject: Egmont and Lo$
>>>At least they didn't censor the Lo$ stories with guns like egmont did.
No, no, that wasn't Egmont. You're thinking of what Disney did to
Gladstone's edition.
From: "Jack IP"
Subject: U$ in North America
>>>Ever since U$ is no longer available in North America, I was wondering
if
anyone has any news about anyone willing to pick up the title. I badly
need
my fix of U$ and the fact that Don is still pumping them out (good thing)
and I can't get them (bad thing) depresses me greatly.
You and others need to brace yourself for the possibility/probability that
there may never again be Disney comics in the English language. At least I
have no optimism on the matter, seeing the level of current NONactivity in
the process and knowing the attitudes of the licensing corporation. And if
that depresses you, think how it makes ME feel! Never again will I see one
of my own stories in a language I can read, despite all the work I put into
them! And there's nuthin' I can do about it. (I told you there are *lots*
of frustrating aspects of this job that I need to overcome... doing "Lo$"
stories is one way to enjoy it more... then not being able to *read* that
same "Lo$" story makes it even more frustrating... never-ending cycle...)
Fluks, H.W.
Anders: Harry, Scarpa
Message 19 -
2000-02-02 at 17:06:51
Anders:
> Isn't [Dutch] Donald Duck Extra 36 pages?
It's 32 interior pages and 4 cover pages. The cover pages don't contain
comic stories.
> Are you guys sure that the Scarpa story isn't coming as an extra to
> issue 6 in scandinavia? It sure looks like a Scarpa story and tghe
> tittle is something with Donald Mc Duck...
That must be Marco Rota. Scarpa did a *mouse* story, remember? 8-)
--Harry.
> Isn't [Dutch] Donald Duck Extra 36 pages?
It's 32 interior pages and 4 cover pages. The cover pages don't contain
comic stories.
> Are you guys sure that the Scarpa story isn't coming as an extra to
> issue 6 in scandinavia? It sure looks like a Scarpa story and tghe
> tittle is something with Donald Mc Duck...
That must be Marco Rota. Scarpa did a *mouse* story, remember? 8-)
--Harry.
Per-Erik Malmström
Anders: Harry, Scarpa
Message 20 -
2000-02-02 at 17:41:33
HARRY:
> > Are you guys sure that the Scarpa story isn't coming as an extra to
> > issue 6 in scandinavia? It sure looks like a Scarpa story and tghe
> > tittle is something with Donald Mc Duck...
>
> That must be Marco Rota. Scarpa did a *mouse* story, remember? 8-)
Quack!? Are we talkin' year 2000 here?
Anders, are you referring to the preview in no.5? There's only one drawing
of Scrooge there, and it's definitely done by Vicar! As I said before,
don't hold your breath if you're waiting for stories by Rota.
Btw, Don Rosa: there's at least one fan who likes your slapsticks a lot
more than the adventures... With one exception: Lo$!
/PE
> > Are you guys sure that the Scarpa story isn't coming as an extra to
> > issue 6 in scandinavia? It sure looks like a Scarpa story and tghe
> > tittle is something with Donald Mc Duck...
>
> That must be Marco Rota. Scarpa did a *mouse* story, remember? 8-)
Quack!? Are we talkin' year 2000 here?
Anders, are you referring to the preview in no.5? There's only one drawing
of Scrooge there, and it's definitely done by Vicar! As I said before,
don't hold your breath if you're waiting for stories by Rota.
Btw, Don Rosa: there's at least one fan who likes your slapsticks a lot
more than the adventures... With one exception: Lo$!
/PE
Fluks, H.W.
Don: Kalevala
Message 21 -
2000-02-02 at 17:50:24
> From: Don Rosa [mailto:donrosa at iglou.com]
> Subject: Re: Digest #70
> the main point about eBay is that the winning bidder does
> *not* pay the amount of his bid, but he simply pays
> one increment over the second-highest
> bidder's bid
I wonder why they introduced such a system. Looks quite unfair to me: if you
want something and make sure noone else bids anymore, just bid a billion
dollars (and pay only $205).
> I get a lot of fanmail by post or computer, a daily flow, and
> every single
> message I get starts out by saying that the "Lo$" are their favorite
> stories.
Maybe *I* should write a letter to you, then? 8-)
*My* favourite Rosa stories are "His Majesty, McDuck", "Return to Xanadu",
"On a Silver Platter", and "A Matter of Some Gravity". Lo$ comes at place 6
or 7, or so.
H> In this story, as in some other recent Rosa stories, Donald
H> is a real dope.
> Where is Donald acting like a "dope"?
Well, maybe it's more that Scrooge *treats* him like a dope. Donald gets
lots of physical challenges in the story... (I don't have the story right
here, so I can't tell page numbers or so).
H> And Scrooge is too harsh on him. This doesn't fit in my
H> personal view of the character.
> Oh, *that* won't change in my stories. DD and U$ will always
> bicker!
I see.
H> BTW, I liked the part that Donald "swims like a duck".
> My script made a reference to
> the fact that the Kalevala legend stated that only a "blue duck" could
> retreive the lost harp, and Donald is called on to perform this other
> important function.
The "blue duck" stuff was in the German version too. But when the newphews
(I think) say that Donald applies to that, they don't say that Donald *is* a
duck, but that Donald "swims like a duck". I thought this was a typical
Rosaism, since you regard the Ducks as real people (though drawn in
unfamiliar shapes). So you would never refer to Donald as being "a duck"
(except when it's funny).
Apparently, the German translation was more "Rosaic" than the original...
(In *this case, at least).
H> it's strange that some things
H> aren't explained. For instance, why does Magica arrive in that big
H> wooden(?) bird construction.
> ??? This is all clearly explained in the preceding pages!
Then I must have missed it when reading the archaic-German Kalevala poetry.
I must admit that I skipped quite a lot of that.
> Or... did you say you could read German?
I think I can read modern German quite well. But it's the archaisms that I
(as a non-German) have problems with.
H> The page about the "golden snow of the Sampo" is a total
H> mystery to me.
H> Probably a reference to the Kalevala that only insiders would
H> recognise?
> My script explained all that was happening on that page. No secret
> knowledge required.
I don't get the *point* of that page. What's that about golden snow? Maybe
it *is* the translation? (I'll read that page again.)
> Better you should make a criticism that I understand, like
> tell me my art
> is bad or filled with "needless and irritating detail" --
> then I could agree and stop being confused.
No point in telling you things that you already agree with! 8-)
--Harry.
> Subject: Re: Digest #70
> the main point about eBay is that the winning bidder does
> *not* pay the amount of his bid, but he simply pays
> one increment over the second-highest
> bidder's bid
I wonder why they introduced such a system. Looks quite unfair to me: if you
want something and make sure noone else bids anymore, just bid a billion
dollars (and pay only $205).
> I get a lot of fanmail by post or computer, a daily flow, and
> every single
> message I get starts out by saying that the "Lo$" are their favorite
> stories.
Maybe *I* should write a letter to you, then? 8-)
*My* favourite Rosa stories are "His Majesty, McDuck", "Return to Xanadu",
"On a Silver Platter", and "A Matter of Some Gravity". Lo$ comes at place 6
or 7, or so.
H> In this story, as in some other recent Rosa stories, Donald
H> is a real dope.
> Where is Donald acting like a "dope"?
Well, maybe it's more that Scrooge *treats* him like a dope. Donald gets
lots of physical challenges in the story... (I don't have the story right
here, so I can't tell page numbers or so).
H> And Scrooge is too harsh on him. This doesn't fit in my
H> personal view of the character.
> Oh, *that* won't change in my stories. DD and U$ will always
> bicker!
I see.
H> BTW, I liked the part that Donald "swims like a duck".
> My script made a reference to
> the fact that the Kalevala legend stated that only a "blue duck" could
> retreive the lost harp, and Donald is called on to perform this other
> important function.
The "blue duck" stuff was in the German version too. But when the newphews
(I think) say that Donald applies to that, they don't say that Donald *is* a
duck, but that Donald "swims like a duck". I thought this was a typical
Rosaism, since you regard the Ducks as real people (though drawn in
unfamiliar shapes). So you would never refer to Donald as being "a duck"
(except when it's funny).
Apparently, the German translation was more "Rosaic" than the original...
(In *this case, at least).
H> it's strange that some things
H> aren't explained. For instance, why does Magica arrive in that big
H> wooden(?) bird construction.
> ??? This is all clearly explained in the preceding pages!
Then I must have missed it when reading the archaic-German Kalevala poetry.
I must admit that I skipped quite a lot of that.
> Or... did you say you could read German?
I think I can read modern German quite well. But it's the archaisms that I
(as a non-German) have problems with.
H> The page about the "golden snow of the Sampo" is a total
H> mystery to me.
H> Probably a reference to the Kalevala that only insiders would
H> recognise?
> My script explained all that was happening on that page. No secret
> knowledge required.
I don't get the *point* of that page. What's that about golden snow? Maybe
it *is* the translation? (I'll read that page again.)
> Better you should make a criticism that I understand, like
> tell me my art
> is bad or filled with "needless and irritating detail" --
> then I could agree and stop being confused.
No point in telling you things that you already agree with! 8-)
--Harry.
Stefan Persson
Italian and Scarpa
Message 22 -
2000-02-02 at 18:39:54
>From: pierrebi at crosswinds.net
>Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 13:29:08
>Of course Scarpa writes in italian, but his stories will not be published
>in Italy. Maybe he quarreled with Disney Italia, so that i will not give
>them the original italian version of his new stories, and Disney Italia
>will have to translate them from an other language. I like Italy, Europe an
>World, but i would like to read the Scarpa's stories in italian.
But I don't think that Gerstein, who wrote the Egmont story, speak Italian,
which would mean that this story is written in an other language, i.e.
English.
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>Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2000 13:29:08
>Of course Scarpa writes in italian, but his stories will not be published
>in Italy. Maybe he quarreled with Disney Italia, so that i will not give
>them the original italian version of his new stories, and Disney Italia
>will have to translate them from an other language. I like Italy, Europe an
>World, but i would like to read the Scarpa's stories in italian.
But I don't think that Gerstein, who wrote the Egmont story, speak Italian,
which would mean that this story is written in an other language, i.e.
English.
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Don Rosa
Digest #70
Message 23 -
2000-02-02 at 18:40:01
It occurs to me, since you're asking me about Egmont's not wanting any
future "Lo$" stories, I should make sure I explain what they say
completely -- they say that the original 12 episodes of the series were
okay, but that there is no reason to continue it, and that it's the
subsequent episodes that the readers don't like. Again, this is totally
opposite of the mail *I* receive, but I am not privvy to how they make
these decisions, so I assume they know their bizniz and I do what I'm told.
If Byron has made a wrong decision yet, I haven't noticed it.
future "Lo$" stories, I should make sure I explain what they say
completely -- they say that the original 12 episodes of the series were
okay, but that there is no reason to continue it, and that it's the
subsequent episodes that the readers don't like. Again, this is totally
opposite of the mail *I* receive, but I am not privvy to how they make
these decisions, so I assume they know their bizniz and I do what I'm told.
If Byron has made a wrong decision yet, I haven't noticed it.
Rodney W Bowcock Jr.
Yahoo auctions and Don Rosa
Message 24 -
2000-02-03 at 01:58:35
speaking of auctions.......does anyone know why when you look up "Don
Rosa" on yahoo auctions you get a bunch of stuff for the deceased rap
star 2-Pac? I can't figure it out, and it's irritating me to no end.
~~~Rodney.
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star 2-Pac? I can't figure it out, and it's irritating me to no end.
~~~Rodney.
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Rob Klein
Biographies needed for Creators File
Message 25 -
2000-02-03 at 03:03:53
Hello, DCML members! This is a plea to anyone who can help us make our
Creators File much more professional looking, and provide interested
parties with more information on Disney Comics artists and writers.
Currently, most of the Creators have no biography. Some have only a
birthdate or year, or country of birth - with no career info. We can see
all or most of their story credits, but no career data to provide context.
Even famous artists whom we all know (such as Daan Jippes) have woefully
little in their bios.
I know many fans have many fanzines or access to or knowledge of already
printed biographies of many Disney creators. Perhaps several of us can
scrape up some time to e-mail copies of those bios to Per Starback. Anyone
who can gather info from various sources to create new bios for
lesser-known creators would be greatly appreciated. I've done what I can,
in providing one for myself, and Jan Gulbransson. I have only Dutch
fanzines from late 60's through early 1980's, and could provide old data on
some Dutch artists - but can't do the best job on 60's-'84 Dutch artists
(such as Ben Verhagen, Eddy van Schuylenburg, Jules Coenen, Mark deJonge,
Daan Jippes, Jan Kruse, Michel Nadorp, Wilbert Plijnaar, etc.) - especially
for their recent periods (e.g. Daan Jippes US studio animation and
merchandising work and others non-Disney or post-Disney work). I have a
full collection of Carl Barks & Co., but I don't feel confident enough to
translate to English to make fully accurate bios. I don't have any US
fanzines or any others.
Anyone who can help please send any bios or related data to the list
administrator:
mailman - owner at stp.ling.uu.se or to Per Starback's own e-mail address.
Thanks - Rob Klein
Creators File much more professional looking, and provide interested
parties with more information on Disney Comics artists and writers.
Currently, most of the Creators have no biography. Some have only a
birthdate or year, or country of birth - with no career info. We can see
all or most of their story credits, but no career data to provide context.
Even famous artists whom we all know (such as Daan Jippes) have woefully
little in their bios.
I know many fans have many fanzines or access to or knowledge of already
printed biographies of many Disney creators. Perhaps several of us can
scrape up some time to e-mail copies of those bios to Per Starback. Anyone
who can gather info from various sources to create new bios for
lesser-known creators would be greatly appreciated. I've done what I can,
in providing one for myself, and Jan Gulbransson. I have only Dutch
fanzines from late 60's through early 1980's, and could provide old data on
some Dutch artists - but can't do the best job on 60's-'84 Dutch artists
(such as Ben Verhagen, Eddy van Schuylenburg, Jules Coenen, Mark deJonge,
Daan Jippes, Jan Kruse, Michel Nadorp, Wilbert Plijnaar, etc.) - especially
for their recent periods (e.g. Daan Jippes US studio animation and
merchandising work and others non-Disney or post-Disney work). I have a
full collection of Carl Barks & Co., but I don't feel confident enough to
translate to English to make fully accurate bios. I don't have any US
fanzines or any others.
Anyone who can help please send any bios or related data to the list
administrator:
mailman - owner at stp.ling.uu.se or to Per Starback's own e-mail address.
Thanks - Rob Klein
Ridout
Ebay
Message 26 -
2000-02-03 at 05:01:35
MARCO:
What Don was trying to explain is how ebay is so much more convienent than a
regular auction. Say for example, that you find a comic book up for auction
that you have desperately wanted for many years. The comic is currently at a
price of only $8.00 and has 2 days to go until the end of the auction. Well,
you want this comic so bad that you would be willing to pay up to $50.00 for
it. You can bid the amount of $50, and it will not necessarily mean that
that is the price you will have to pay. If the previous high bidder had only
bid $8.00, the new bid price will only go to $8.50 and not all the way up to
$50. If the previous bidder checks back and puts in a new bid of say,
$25.00, then the new bid price will become $25.50 with you remaining the
high bidder. It continues like this until the end of the auction and the
final price is always just a specified amount above the second highest
bidder's price (usually 50 cents, $1.00, etc.) rather than the highest
bidder's top price. This system is very convienent because it allows a
person to bid only once and not have to constantly check the auction to
prevent paying too high of a price for the item. Ok, that was probably a
much wordier explantion than necessary, but I'm afraid I'm not terribly good
at explaining things.
rebecca
What Don was trying to explain is how ebay is so much more convienent than a
regular auction. Say for example, that you find a comic book up for auction
that you have desperately wanted for many years. The comic is currently at a
price of only $8.00 and has 2 days to go until the end of the auction. Well,
you want this comic so bad that you would be willing to pay up to $50.00 for
it. You can bid the amount of $50, and it will not necessarily mean that
that is the price you will have to pay. If the previous high bidder had only
bid $8.00, the new bid price will only go to $8.50 and not all the way up to
$50. If the previous bidder checks back and puts in a new bid of say,
$25.00, then the new bid price will become $25.50 with you remaining the
high bidder. It continues like this until the end of the auction and the
final price is always just a specified amount above the second highest
bidder's price (usually 50 cents, $1.00, etc.) rather than the highest
bidder's top price. This system is very convienent because it allows a
person to bid only once and not have to constantly check the auction to
prevent paying too high of a price for the item. Ok, that was probably a
much wordier explantion than necessary, but I'm afraid I'm not terribly good
at explaining things.
rebecca
Michael Naiman
Carl's Birthday
Message 27 -
2000-02-03 at 06:26:52
Dear ML readers,
As surly as February rolls around every year, March follows and it is
time to celebrate Carl Barks' birthday again!
I will be collecting cards, letters, and emails and sending them along
to Carl.
Knowing how long overseas mail takes to reach the States, I thought that
I'd give everyone enough notice in advance.
Especially for you last minute procrastinators (and you know who you
are!!!!)
My goal this year is to have 100 different messages from around the
world.
I know that Carl will appreciate the correspondence.
Please send mail to:
Michael Naiman
PO Box 151029
San Diego, CA
92175-1029
USA
As surly as February rolls around every year, March follows and it is
time to celebrate Carl Barks' birthday again!
I will be collecting cards, letters, and emails and sending them along
to Carl.
Knowing how long overseas mail takes to reach the States, I thought that
I'd give everyone enough notice in advance.
Especially for you last minute procrastinators (and you know who you
are!!!!)
My goal this year is to have 100 different messages from around the
world.
I know that Carl will appreciate the correspondence.
Please send mail to:
Michael Naiman
PO Box 151029
San Diego, CA
92175-1029
USA
Anders Christian Sivebaek
Anders: Harry, Scarpa
Message 28 -
2000-02-03 at 09:29:05
> > Isn't [Dutch] Donald Duck Extra 36 pages?
> It's 32 interior pages and 4 cover pages. The cover pages don't
contain
> comic stories.
Okay. I didn't know that.
> > Are you guys sure that the Scarpa story isn't coming as an extra to
> > issue 6 in scandinavia? It sure looks like a Scarpa story and tghe
> > tittle is something with Donald Mc Duck...
> That must be Marco Rota.
Sure doesn't look like that, but it will be an old Scarpa then so they
can present him or soemthing. I shouldn't wonder if danish
weekly-readers don't know him
> Scarpa did a *mouse* story, remember? 8-)
I forgot that :-)
> It's 32 interior pages and 4 cover pages. The cover pages don't
contain
> comic stories.
Okay. I didn't know that.
> > Are you guys sure that the Scarpa story isn't coming as an extra to
> > issue 6 in scandinavia? It sure looks like a Scarpa story and tghe
> > tittle is something with Donald Mc Duck...
> That must be Marco Rota.
Sure doesn't look like that, but it will be an old Scarpa then so they
can present him or soemthing. I shouldn't wonder if danish
weekly-readers don't know him
> Scarpa did a *mouse* story, remember? 8-)
I forgot that :-)
Gerstein, David DK - ECN
Anders: Harry, Scarpa
Message 29 -
2000-02-03 at 13:18:23
Hey A. C.!
>> > Are you guys sure that the Scarpa story isn't coming as an extra to
>> > issue 6 in scandinavia? It sure looks like a Scarpa story and tghe
>> > tittle is something with Donald Mc Duck...
>> That must be Marco Rota.
>Sure doesn't look like that, but it will be an old Scarpa then so they
>can present him or soemthing. I shouldn't wonder if danish
>weekly-readers don't know him
>
>> Scarpa did a *mouse* story, remember? 8-)
> I forgot that :-)
Allow me to clear up a mystery, my friend!
Weekly #6 indeed has an extra in Scandinavia which *is* by Scarpa,
and the story is
I AO55006-A: "Il carnevale di Paperin Paperone" (Anders Von Ands festlige
dage)
It's an early Scarpa story (from 1955) that Egmont hasn't published
before. And the stars are Uncle Scrooge and Donald.
*Then*, in Weekly #7 comes the new Scarpa story:
D 99156: "History Re-Petes Itself"
...which is a Mickey story, natch.
As for Marco Rota, the Egmont weekly will have some new stories from
him in a couple of months - just not right now, that's all.
David
<dge at ecn.egmont.com>
>> > Are you guys sure that the Scarpa story isn't coming as an extra to
>> > issue 6 in scandinavia? It sure looks like a Scarpa story and tghe
>> > tittle is something with Donald Mc Duck...
>> That must be Marco Rota.
>Sure doesn't look like that, but it will be an old Scarpa then so they
>can present him or soemthing. I shouldn't wonder if danish
>weekly-readers don't know him
>
>> Scarpa did a *mouse* story, remember? 8-)
> I forgot that :-)
Allow me to clear up a mystery, my friend!
Weekly #6 indeed has an extra in Scandinavia which *is* by Scarpa,
and the story is
I AO55006-A: "Il carnevale di Paperin Paperone" (Anders Von Ands festlige
dage)
It's an early Scarpa story (from 1955) that Egmont hasn't published
before. And the stars are Uncle Scrooge and Donald.
*Then*, in Weekly #7 comes the new Scarpa story:
D 99156: "History Re-Petes Itself"
...which is a Mickey story, natch.
As for Marco Rota, the Egmont weekly will have some new stories from
him in a couple of months - just not right now, that's all.
David
<dge at ecn.egmont.com>
Kriton Kyrimis
DCML digest, Vol 1 #71 - 14 msgs
Message 30 -
2000-02-03 at 14:49:01
PIETRO:
> Scarpa was, is and will be one of the best, may the best one, after Barks,
> Disney writer.
As a Rosa fan, I can't help but agree with this statement. Scarpa is, indeed,
my third favorite Disney Artist. ;-)
DON:
> Never again will I see one of my own stories in a language I can read
I suppose you could always learn Danish or French...
--
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
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"Isn't that sort of thing against Newton's Third Law?"
"Yes, but I have to admit that I do violate a few laws now and then."
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> Scarpa was, is and will be one of the best, may the best one, after Barks,
> Disney writer.
As a Rosa fan, I can't help but agree with this statement. Scarpa is, indeed,
my third favorite Disney Artist. ;-)
DON:
> Never again will I see one of my own stories in a language I can read
I suppose you could always learn Danish or French...
--
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
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"Isn't that sort of thing against Newton's Third Law?"
"Yes, but I have to admit that I do violate a few laws now and then."
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