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AC
> The statement in the first line must be someway ironic, because
> Scandinavians are not normally very stupid. We're just annoyed. But
> we'll have to calm down and contact the back-issue department of
> Picsou.
Then how come the publisher there can decide anything to print based on
"they think the story will be too complicated for the readers"??? Another
example of wrongfully market research and rating perhaps. I'm sorry but i'm
still confused how the publisher there can think that a story may be too
complicated for scandinavian readers and not with the non-scandinavian ones.

> From: "Arie Fachrisal"
> re: "The 3C Ride Again"
> >>>Have read it??? Does it mean that you already script it?
DON ROSA
> Yes, now I'm drawing it.
Huh? But i thought you only do a story one at a time. Then this means you're
doing a new Lo$ *and* the 3C, am i wrong about this??? Or perhaps you have
finished the Lo$ one?

ME
> > And if I am allowed, I will probably try to do another "3C" story every
> > year or so,
> >>>"Another" 3C??? Another 3C story than the original or another 3C story
> than
> your pre-scripted 3C story?
DR
> ??? Well, both. Eh? ??? Huh?
Confused??? No, what i meant was:
Another 3C than the original, meaning you want to do a 3C story but never
done it before.
Another 3C than your pre-scripted one, meaning you want to make "another" 3C
story which means you'll end up making 2 3C stories.
It seems that i don't give quite an explanation, maybe this will still be
confusing since i was unable to say in a more correct way, sorry for my bad
english. Anyway i know you know what i was trying to say.

> story? Will it take time after or before the Lo$ saga? thanks
>
> As with the previous three extra chapters, it will fit *inside* the
"sage".
> In between/among those 12 chapters.
That was a stupid question to ask after i think for a while. I mean what
kind of a story will fit in before the Lo$ chapters, make no sense, oh
well.....:-)

ETA BETA
> But you did recognize the story I was talking about, didn't you ?
Yep:-) Currently one of my favorites.

> >>(I'm a Capra fan, too)..
> >>I don't see any silver lining in this cloud...
> Ma'af, man, but you DO need a bit of advice...
No-no-no, saya yang seharusnya minta maaf. Maafin yah? Pleaze...BTW the
reason i said something about drugs is because in Indonesian drugs have been
sold to elementary kids. Imagine that. X( What will my next generation be?
This drug business is really bothering me now. Well, i'm sure no one in this
DCML use drugs except well medicine drugs;-)

> First, I suggest you to be a bit more careful about how you address
> people, even when it's apparently clear that you're joking, somebody
> might just take it seriously...
Ups, i'm really really sorry about that^_^;; i must have "looked" like a
fool trying to be a wiseguy babbling without even knowing what i say. I am
really sorry about that. Luckily you looked like the kind of person who can
understand my "little" mischief. ^_^;;

> Second, you might need a couple of books.
Ah, yes, i might have to learn more. i really don't know about Capra cause i
never seen his movies played here, at least as far as i know. And the
"lining" thing i never heardof it before too. Mostly is "silver lightning"
in the clouds that i heard most so please forgive me for my stupidity.

> To be as clear as crystal, Don's story is a hommage to Frank Capra's
> movie.
> Lining = the covering of the inner surface of anything
i must put more efforts to my vocabularies, there's so much more i don't
know. But i really appreciate that you have broaden my horizons, thanks and
sorry of course.

> "Put it in your pipe and smoke it!"
Well, errr, this.....errr...i don't know the meaning of this one. Anyone can
tell me what's the meaning of it.
Man, i feel like a jerk. Sorry all:-) for tryin' to be a wiseguy or somethin
like that, i mean.

BTW one question i am curious about. Since this is the year 2000 now and
the comic coding usually used the last two digits only before 2000. So i
wander any example of the new coding? Couldn't be D 00120 right? That will
mean it was published 1900 cause it's not Y2K ready;-) Anyway i'm curious.
Perhaps somebody has the answer.

Best,

(Liu Bei looked back and he saw a big muscular man who said the words. Liu
asked his name and he's Zhang Fei, a local butcher and meat-seller. When the
two are chatting in a pub, a man came and with a loud voice asked for a cup
of wine to the waiter--RTK)

The new brazilian histories will be published in Europe countries.I now that France is one off them, principally the Mickey histories.I dont now to were the ducks histories will send, but i 'm reworking in a history off them, to make the design more or less like Daniel Branca do(my style is very personnal,but with a lot off Italian influences).The Carioca histories, maybe, will send to Italy, but i don't now very much about this foreing market.I just now that the first thing is a quality work.All off them will receive computers colors.
Fernando Ventura fernandopventura at uol.com.br

Hi all you lucky danes and norwegians !

> Weekly #6 indeed has an extra in Scandinavia which *is* by Scarpa,
> and the story is
> I AO55006-A: "Il carnevale di Paperin Paperone" (Anders Von Ands festlige
> dage)
> It's an early Scarpa story (from 1955) that Egmont hasn't published
> before. And the stars are Uncle Scrooge and Donald.
>
I hope I'm not out on deep water here, but ...
Is it possible that one of you out there can get me a copy of this extra
with Scarpa ? I suppose that the Scarpa in #7 will be published in
Sweden ? If not I would really want to get that too.

And I have another question

These extras that we unfortunate swedes haven't got since 1992, Does any
of them contain anything else that is a gem like #6 above that haven't
been printed in Sweden ?

I wish that I ...

And another mystery to me is the fact that why aren't the D coded
stories used when they are produced ? If you look in an average issue of
the Swedish weekly some stories are bound to be older than 1999. I mean
they make the stories themselves so they logically ought to be planned
to be printed in some issue in the near future I would think. But
they're not. Why not ?

> "You can gladly have it, if you teach my people something noble and
> square." And HDL responds "Playing chess is noble and square"

> What does it say in your countries ?
Was that the How to read DD or the original? In Danish he talks about
Lnaciers, which is a french folk dance, where you stand in quadrilles,
which is a square.

AC

This is in the weekly, I have never seen the book. I must say that I
actually prefer chess before a dance.

Ola
"I don't even know what I don't even know" Ron Mael 1977

I finally got around to reading the KOMIX version of "The Tripple
Distelfink" and, horror of horrors, I saw that they've used Gladstone's
modified script as the basis for their translation.

I'd like to send them a copy of Don's message describing and commenting
on the modifications. Is there a way to retrieve back issues of the list
from 1998? Looking at the web site, there are pointers to archives from
1992-1995 and from 1999-2000, but I couldn't find anything for 1996-1998.

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
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"And tell them the Doctor told you."
"Who?"
"Exactly!"
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KRITON
I haven't watched the Asterix-movie either. Did they really make gerard
as fat and round as Obelix is? "I'm not found, I'm just well
upholstered" (as he says in a danish cartoon)

> From: "Stahl, Joachim GE - EV" <j.stahl at ehapa.de>

> Last year among the most popular stories were Don Rosa's "The
Treasure of
> the Ten Avatars" and "Escape from Forbidden Valley";
As if there's no history in those...
Ten Avatars! ;-) and an album with that story just came out in january
too, right?

I hope you can mention the code of those other stories, I'd like to
find them.

> and most of the Manga-style stories with Barks scripts.
Ha! Really shows how different readers are, huh? I for one think
they're disgusting. and some other Barks-fans has told me that too...
Why is it that barks has to be reworked into Manga, children books like
they did in DK 1987 or into Ducktales. Aren't they perfect as they are?
Maybe they're too ldfashioned. the manga-story I saw with the rainmaker
Donald (Super-action-comic) was very changed from the original.

> >But anyway *I* think Don makes his story for the single reader, if
> one
> person notes that detail about the second-biggest frog, it saves his
> day:-) Because that detail was made for that person. so it's for a
> possible minority, not a majority<

> No doubt, there are thousands of single adult fans who love both Don
> Rosa's historical and his non-historical stories.
Glad you agree.

> But sorry, the Egmont magazines aren't made for them,
I'll read them anyway.

> But Egmont can't afford to publish stories just to please the older
readers when > these stories aren't accepted by the majority of the
young ones as well.
I understand. They can't afford. I once thought of a comic in Denmark,
maybe like the I mastri Disney in Italy, but it seems it didn't work
for long downthere.

I think children must have changed then, maybe to what I would call the
worse... When i was a kid I would have loved to read the Lo$-chapters,
I know that.
Also in the early years of the then monthlies every boy and girl in our
countries
bought it every week, the local kiosk or bookstore would have it for
them, as a kind of subscription. today, and I was smaller, the weekly
is bought so to speak by accident, sometimes just because of the extra.
and when the kids grow like 10 years old, the parent fool them into
believing that they're too old to read that kids stuff, so the readers
stop in earlier and earlier ages than before. IMO.
BTW The super-action-comics seems to be the only Barks-comics in you
MM, that is sad to me. But I guess the german public doesn't like Barks
in MM? Only in albums then.
In Denmark we luckily have a barks-story every 5th issue in average. I
don't know if the kids like that, but right now it's the almost only
way to find Barks, as we only have the goldbooks as alternative. and
they come once a year. (Plus to yearbooks, but that is reprints)

Now I'll stop complaining and be sure to buy all the new issues I can
find tomorrow. allthough I'm not always happy with publishing policys I
love that we actually have Duck comics here. I want to support the
Publisher by buying all the comics. Even Paperinik and Princesses,
where I am not at all part of the target group of those magazines.
Imagine if Disney took the license away or tried to take over like they
did in Italy (They gave it back, didn't they?). I once wrote in a
school project that it would be enough for the weekly to live through
the jubilee in march last year. I deeply regret having said that.

ARIE
To hit back on Egmont again: maybe someone doesn't think those stories
are good enough for us? Maybe that's the problem. I've seen the coin
(and actually made it possible for others to see it) and I think we do
deserve to have it published. But I am not the publisher so I'll leave
it to them.

DON - ARIE
> That was a stupid question to ask after i think for a while. I mean
what
> kind of a story will fit in before the Lo$ chapters, make no sense,
oh
> well.....:-)
Maybe it wasn't so stupid after all to ask that question. Maybe a
chapter
could fit in before, Don? The once planned chapter one had lots more
info
about the McDucks before $crooge. Byron wisely said to Don that it was
the story of $crooge and not the earlier ones. Maybe now it's time to
bring
the family up again? It could be a chapter 0/1 :-) (Like italian
Paperinik comics, but those = slash were try-out-versions if I remember
right)

ARIE:
You might have been a little over-fresh as we say in danish. and please
not any more indonesian:-) Ou je parle Francais a toi! (Or I'll talk
french to you)

> Gaute
Brio rings a bell to me saying swedish or danish the Donald-figure must
have been amde after 1934, maybe in the 40'es.

OLE

> I hope I'm not out on deep water here, but ...
Of course you're not

I will get you that extra if not Ole Roc gets it for you:-)
I think the Scarpa will be in the swedish weekly 7 as they cooperate.
if not it wont be too late to find out in the end of next week.

> These extras that we unfortunate swedes haven't got since 1992, Does
any
> of them contain anything else that is a gem like #6 above that
haven't
> been printed in Sweden ?
There have been some Rosa-extras, (Croesus, Columbus, Eldorado) some
extras with the long movie adaptions, like Toy Story. and Some
barks-classics, including the Mummy's Ring, Cold Bargain and some
others. I'd be happy to find these for you if you haven't seen the
stories.

I think it takes 6 months or so before D-coded stories come in the
weekly, and it takes time to work them into schedules and so. also
there must be stacks of stories that are found to bad for the weekly
and not published. there's lots of d-coded Minnie-stories and d-coded
one-pagers that we have never seen, that maybe greeks or germans have
seen.

> This is in the weekly, I have never seen the book.
I read the story in a gladstone album

> I must say that I actually prefer chess before a dance.
Me too:-) esepcially after having danced lanciers in 3rd grade at High
School...

> Don was only talking about doing a Lo$ *in the future*.
> Yes, *every year or so*. Meaning one in 2000, one in 2001, one in 2002, et
> cetera.
> But he's currently working on his *first* 3C story.
TFYI

> > BTW the
> > reason i said something about drugs is because in Indonesian
> > drugs have been sold to elementary kids. Imagine that. X(
> What's wrong with that? 8-)
You have got to be kidding. When i said elemntary kids i mean kids at age
7-10 years old, but i do get your point:-)

> > Liu Bei looked back and he saw a big muscular man
>
> Yeah... whatever.
Ha-ha-ha, enough pissing people in this mailing list. BTW, most of you have
heard and read about King Arthur and The Knights of The Round Table, right?
Well, IMHO Romance of The Three Kingdoms is also a great literature and also
The Sun Tzu's Art of War. Why am i telling all this? Because i thought maybe
some of the members like to read historical stuffs and like it. Well, these
two titles i gave are historical.

BTW about the duck vs man discussion, it made me remember about a TV show i
watched when i was a small kid. i nearly forgot every little details of it.
But i do remember this: Disney is having a TV show for a special event, and
there's this big hall and a stage. All the seats are taken but the two front
seats are left empty. The lights deemed a little, the focussing lights on,
and instead of focusing on the stage, the lights were focused on the
hallway??? or the front seats??? which the ones to sit there are DD and DD
(Donald Duck and Daisy Duck:-)) That was pretty amusing for me even now and
since i was a kid there and my imaginations still runnin' wild, i thought
the idea a "live" DD is a very very fantastic to be true. Well, anyway what
i thought is that DD and the ducks' characters are all to be meant as
characters equal to men and not real men. They will still retains their duck
shape and all. And if us, DCMLers want to join the duck world, we WILL HAVE
TO change shape into dogs, pigs, and other creatures with brown nose in
order to fit in the ducks' world. As i recall, Teddy in a chapter of Lo$ was
drawn by DR to be somethin' like a creature with brown nose. Well anyway
that is my opinion, i'm sure others won't agree to that. And anyone can
remember what the TV show that i was babbling about?

Thanks,
Arie Fachrisal

Henri:

> >If a fluks would be an animal, I could insist on being a
> >fluks... 8-)

> Sorry, this argument doesn't hold water, but that's not your
> mistake, it's mine.

No, it *is* my mistake. I am Dutch myself. I simply forgot that the Dutch
word for duck is eend! That's what people get when they write too much in
English... 8-)

> BTW, now I've found a much younger example, easier to
> find by my Dutch list fellows

The other two stories you mentioned were "S-coded" stories: they were made
in the USA, but only published in Europe.

> issue 52 of 1983 brings a story about Donald
> failing at a rabbit hunt.

This is a Dutch story. Probably not published anywhere else.
(I don't mean to imply anything; this is just FYI.)

--Harry.
Harry Eend, Leendschendam, Neenderland
http://home.wxs.nl/~fluks4/
http://here.is/inducks