I have discovered something I find strange.
According to all INDUCKS records of Scarpa's "Paperolimpiadi", IS TL 1705-
A, the story is 249 pages long. I have also tried adding the page counts
for the different parts of the story (I TL 1705-A, I TL 1706-B, I TL 1707-
C, I TL 1708-A, I TL 1709-C, I TL 1710-A, I TL 1711-A and I TL 1712-B) -
and I get the same number. 249 pages.
However, I have the story myself - the way it was printed in Norwegian
Donald Pocket #89. And, to make a long story short (NOT to be taken
literally in this case, where it is even longer): The Norwegian (I assume
others as well) edition of this story is _250_ pages long. I know for sure,
I have counted it ten times now.
So... Does anyone have a clue where this extra page comes from?
Olaf
Author
Topic: 200404
(317 messages)
Olaf Solstrand
Pages of the Paperolimpiadi
Message 196 -
2004-04-09 at 01:25:31
ZeldasTriforce
2004 Eisner Award Nominations
Message 197 -
2004-04-09 at 11:38:13
Hi all!
I found a list of the nominations for the 2004 Eisner awards. Naturally,
Disney comics got all of one nomination. ;p
Best Title For A Younger Audience
Astro Boy, by Osamu Tezuka (Dark Horse)
Happy Halloween, Li'l Santa, by Thierry Robin and Lewis Trondheim (NBM)
Little Lit: It Was a Dark and Silly Night, edited by art spiegelman and
Francoise Mouly (HarperCollins)
Little Vampire Does Kung Fu!, by Joann Sfar (Simon & Shuster)
Peanutbutter and Jeremy's Best Book Ever!, by James Kochalka (Alternative)
Walt Disney's Uncle Scrooge, by various (Gemstone)
And Todd Klein was nominated for best lettering. From what I can understand,
I don't see why they bother having other nominees since he apparently wins it
every year. ;)
And Floyd Gottfredson is among the many candidates that has a chance to be
chosen for the Hall of Fame this year.
I was hoping there might be more nominations than just the one, but perhaps
next year we'll see two or three nominations for Disney comics.
Derek Smith
I found a list of the nominations for the 2004 Eisner awards. Naturally,
Disney comics got all of one nomination. ;p
Best Title For A Younger Audience
Astro Boy, by Osamu Tezuka (Dark Horse)
Happy Halloween, Li'l Santa, by Thierry Robin and Lewis Trondheim (NBM)
Little Lit: It Was a Dark and Silly Night, edited by art spiegelman and
Francoise Mouly (HarperCollins)
Little Vampire Does Kung Fu!, by Joann Sfar (Simon & Shuster)
Peanutbutter and Jeremy's Best Book Ever!, by James Kochalka (Alternative)
Walt Disney's Uncle Scrooge, by various (Gemstone)
And Todd Klein was nominated for best lettering. From what I can understand,
I don't see why they bother having other nominees since he apparently wins it
every year. ;)
And Floyd Gottfredson is among the many candidates that has a chance to be
chosen for the Hall of Fame this year.
I was hoping there might be more nominations than just the one, but perhaps
next year we'll see two or three nominations for Disney comics.
Derek Smith
ZeldasTriforce
DDA Letter Column and Gemstone Comics Advertising
Message 198 -
2004-04-09 at 11:56:31
I suppose this email is more or less directed to Gary Leach since he would be
the one most likely to know the answers.
I was just wondering why DDA doesn't have a letters column of some sort. Is
it just because the pages are so small that you'd be hard pressed to print more
than one letter per page? I probably answered my own question, but I'd like
to know.
I also had another question about the advertising in Gemstone's comics. I'm
sure I'm not the only one to notice that Gemstone's(or Diamond's though I think
Gemstone is a division of that company) own advertisiments take up most or
probably all of the advertising pages in the issues. ("Howdy, folks! Do you know
about the Official Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide? If not, buy Gemstone!).
Does Gemstone/Diamond want it that way or have not many other advertisiers
wanted to put ads in the issues? I can't imagine it being the latter. I know of
comics that sell less than Disney comics and have more than a few ads in them.
I know I'm the only person in the world who derives any sort of humor from
guessing which ads will be in the next issues, but whatever gets one through the
day I suppose.
Thanks in advance. :)
Derek Smith
the one most likely to know the answers.
I was just wondering why DDA doesn't have a letters column of some sort. Is
it just because the pages are so small that you'd be hard pressed to print more
than one letter per page? I probably answered my own question, but I'd like
to know.
I also had another question about the advertising in Gemstone's comics. I'm
sure I'm not the only one to notice that Gemstone's(or Diamond's though I think
Gemstone is a division of that company) own advertisiments take up most or
probably all of the advertising pages in the issues. ("Howdy, folks! Do you know
about the Official Overstreet Comic Book Price Guide? If not, buy Gemstone!).
Does Gemstone/Diamond want it that way or have not many other advertisiers
wanted to put ads in the issues? I can't imagine it being the latter. I know of
comics that sell less than Disney comics and have more than a few ads in them.
I know I'm the only person in the world who derives any sort of humor from
guessing which ads will be in the next issues, but whatever gets one through the
day I suppose.
Thanks in advance. :)
Derek Smith
Eta Beta
Pages of the Paperolimpiadi
Message 199 -
2004-04-09 at 14:14:51
OLAF
>So... Does anyone have a clue where this extra page comes from?
You got me curious but the answer is no, not the slightest idea.
I can only confirm the inducks data, the story in its original,
serialized form is indeed 249 pages long, with page count for
every issue perfectly matching as well.
I also checked an Italian pocketbook reprint (OLI 1996), but that's
actually shortened to 245 since a 4-page sequence with Fethry and
Sgrizzo slapstick has been cut from the first part.
Now, you seem quite sure about your page count... no "hidden"
page on olympic games, or maybe an ad, between the actual story
pages... ?
If that's the case, we need to find out WHAT the additional page
is... please check your reprint parts against the inducks data,
which I'm adding here just in case...
I TL 1705-A 35
I TL 1706-B 28
I TL 1707-C 31
I TL 1708-A 34
I TL 1709-C 30
I TL 1710-A 29
I TL 1711-A 38
I TL 1712-B 24
One of your parts should obviously be one page longer...
Let me know how it works.
Cheers!
Eta Beta
>So... Does anyone have a clue where this extra page comes from?
You got me curious but the answer is no, not the slightest idea.
I can only confirm the inducks data, the story in its original,
serialized form is indeed 249 pages long, with page count for
every issue perfectly matching as well.
I also checked an Italian pocketbook reprint (OLI 1996), but that's
actually shortened to 245 since a 4-page sequence with Fethry and
Sgrizzo slapstick has been cut from the first part.
Now, you seem quite sure about your page count... no "hidden"
page on olympic games, or maybe an ad, between the actual story
pages... ?
If that's the case, we need to find out WHAT the additional page
is... please check your reprint parts against the inducks data,
which I'm adding here just in case...
I TL 1705-A 35
I TL 1706-B 28
I TL 1707-C 31
I TL 1708-A 34
I TL 1709-C 30
I TL 1710-A 29
I TL 1711-A 38
I TL 1712-B 24
One of your parts should obviously be one page longer...
Let me know how it works.
Cheers!
Eta Beta
Olaf Solstrand
Pages of the Paperolimpiadi
Message 200 -
2004-04-09 at 14:34:08
P? Fri, 9 Apr 2004 13:14:51 +0200, skrev Eta Beta <psersimmon at eega.net>:
> Now, you seem quite sure about your page count... no "hidden"
> page on olympic games, or maybe an ad, between the actual story
> pages... ?
The Donald Pocket book has no ads. As far as I can see, nothing is hidden
either.
> If that's the case, we need to find out WHAT the additional page
> is... please check your reprint parts against the inducks data,
> which I'm adding here just in case...
>
> I TL 1705-A 35
> I TL 1706-B 28
> I TL 1707-C 31
That's the one! I assumed it had to be the first or last part being one
page longer - but no! It's the middle of the story! How on earth did they
manage to make THAT part one page longer?
None of the panels seem enlarged, either... Could it be... Gawsh, this is a
bizarre theory, but could there be a secret page in this story which has
never been printed in Italy?
I will try photographing each page of this story and put it online -
hopefully someone will figure out which page is missing in Italy. I'll be
right back with more information.
--
Olaf Solstrand
> Now, you seem quite sure about your page count... no "hidden"
> page on olympic games, or maybe an ad, between the actual story
> pages... ?
The Donald Pocket book has no ads. As far as I can see, nothing is hidden
either.
> If that's the case, we need to find out WHAT the additional page
> is... please check your reprint parts against the inducks data,
> which I'm adding here just in case...
>
> I TL 1705-A 35
> I TL 1706-B 28
> I TL 1707-C 31
That's the one! I assumed it had to be the first or last part being one
page longer - but no! It's the middle of the story! How on earth did they
manage to make THAT part one page longer?
None of the panels seem enlarged, either... Could it be... Gawsh, this is a
bizarre theory, but could there be a secret page in this story which has
never been printed in Italy?
I will try photographing each page of this story and put it online -
hopefully someone will figure out which page is missing in Italy. I'll be
right back with more information.
--
Olaf Solstrand
Soeren Schridde
DCML Digest, Vol 14, Issue 21
Message 201 -
2004-04-09 at 15:19:45
Dean wrote:
> As for people on the list possibly being offended, I doubt it will
> happen with me. I am used with my family and friends to often being the
> person who is "out there" with non-mainstream ideas. So if people
> disagree with each and every point I made, that won't bother me a bit. In
> fact, if lots of people *did* agree with me, that is perhaps when I should
> be worried! :) Also, what an incredibly boring place the world would be
> if everyone agreed! I like living in a world where people have many
> different points of view. I do not get upset when someone disagrees with
> me, as there are times when I disagree with myself! :) I know that sounds
> impossible, but somewhow it does seem to happen from time to time...
which brought a question to my mind:
Having read some minor info here and there that besides the Disney
hobby, some list members have other interests/habits far flung from
mainstream (counting myself in, too)...
which came first?
- Being off mainstream, resulting in developing or keeping up a hobby
seen by many as "childish" or
- Reading Disney comics, resulting in furthering the development of
other off-mainstream interests?
To put it short: Were we whackos from the beginning who thus (among
other things) read comics, orwere we driven into other strange things
by first, initially reading comics?
OK, I know there'll probably be no black and white in this, but what
is your impression?
Soeren
(who hasn't told of his other interests like playing retro console
games and collecting bulky, heavy German slotmachines... (when he is
not walking towards his first job as a lawyer))
----------
Tel.: +49 (0)40/98760818
Fax: +49 (0)40/98761995
Mobile: +49 (0)177/6150764
Stader Str. 206, 21075 Hamburg, Germany
eMail: sschridde at web.de (2nd: sschridde at gmx.de)
> As for people on the list possibly being offended, I doubt it will
> happen with me. I am used with my family and friends to often being the
> person who is "out there" with non-mainstream ideas. So if people
> disagree with each and every point I made, that won't bother me a bit. In
> fact, if lots of people *did* agree with me, that is perhaps when I should
> be worried! :) Also, what an incredibly boring place the world would be
> if everyone agreed! I like living in a world where people have many
> different points of view. I do not get upset when someone disagrees with
> me, as there are times when I disagree with myself! :) I know that sounds
> impossible, but somewhow it does seem to happen from time to time...
which brought a question to my mind:
Having read some minor info here and there that besides the Disney
hobby, some list members have other interests/habits far flung from
mainstream (counting myself in, too)...
which came first?
- Being off mainstream, resulting in developing or keeping up a hobby
seen by many as "childish" or
- Reading Disney comics, resulting in furthering the development of
other off-mainstream interests?
To put it short: Were we whackos from the beginning who thus (among
other things) read comics, orwere we driven into other strange things
by first, initially reading comics?
OK, I know there'll probably be no black and white in this, but what
is your impression?
Soeren
(who hasn't told of his other interests like playing retro console
games and collecting bulky, heavy German slotmachines... (when he is
not walking towards his first job as a lawyer))
----------
Tel.: +49 (0)40/98760818
Fax: +49 (0)40/98761995
Mobile: +49 (0)177/6150764
Stader Str. 206, 21075 Hamburg, Germany
eMail: sschridde at web.de (2nd: sschridde at gmx.de)
Klartekst
Whackos
Message 202 -
2004-04-09 at 16:16:30
Soeren raises an extremely interesting question:
<Were we whackos from the beginning who thus (among
other things) read comics, or were we driven into other strange things
by first, initially reading comics?>
I can only answer for myself. I have always been whacko, and if it hadn't
been comics it would have been something else. One of my more bizarre
interestst is streetcar spotting. I write down the numbers and types of
electric streetcars. Luckily, I live close to Oslo who has many of them. My
wife is only mildly amused when I say "This is 116. We rode it two years
ago, remember?" As for my children, they tolerate me. But my grand children
think I'm cool.
To bring this back on topic: It seems the Duck stories are commercial
enough to attract a large number of readers. But at the same time they have
that extra ingredient that appeal to some of us whackos.
Anyone else have any thoughts on this? Did anyone out there BECOME whacko
by reading Duck comics?
Nils Smeby
<Were we whackos from the beginning who thus (among
other things) read comics, or were we driven into other strange things
by first, initially reading comics?>
I can only answer for myself. I have always been whacko, and if it hadn't
been comics it would have been something else. One of my more bizarre
interestst is streetcar spotting. I write down the numbers and types of
electric streetcars. Luckily, I live close to Oslo who has many of them. My
wife is only mildly amused when I say "This is 116. We rode it two years
ago, remember?" As for my children, they tolerate me. But my grand children
think I'm cool.
To bring this back on topic: It seems the Duck stories are commercial
enough to attract a large number of readers. But at the same time they have
that extra ingredient that appeal to some of us whackos.
Anyone else have any thoughts on this? Did anyone out there BECOME whacko
by reading Duck comics?
Nils Smeby
Rodney-selfhelpbikeco
Correction about Mermaid Queen
Message 203 -
2004-04-09 at 16:39:02
Last night, I re-read some of those late Barks Scrooge stories to see if they were as lackluster as I remember them being. Imagine my red face when I discovered that I had made a mistake in my description of Hall of the Mermaid Queen! No, I didn't find that I liked it, but I did find that the nephews didn't learn judo, it was Donald. Now....I suppose I can accept the possibility of Huey, Dewey and Louie picking up judo somewhere along the line, but Donald?! He can't do anything right, much less pick up judo (though I'd love to see a Van Horn story where he tries to). Not that a little out of character trait will ruin a story for me. What ruins it is that it's a rehash of 'Lost Beneath the Sea', which while good, was never a classic to begin with.
One story that *did* surprise me upon rereading was 'The Phantom of Notre Duck'. The story isn't all that wonderful, but it's obvious that Barks was really enjoying himself while drawing the interiors and exteriors of the cathedral. This is, I think, some of his finest later art.
rodney
(who's favorite later Barks story is 'Billion Dollar Safari')
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One story that *did* surprise me upon rereading was 'The Phantom of Notre Duck'. The story isn't all that wonderful, but it's obvious that Barks was really enjoying himself while drawing the interiors and exteriors of the cathedral. This is, I think, some of his finest later art.
rodney
(who's favorite later Barks story is 'Billion Dollar Safari')
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Eta Beta
Pages of the Paperolimpiadi
Message 204 -
2004-04-09 at 17:02:38
OLAF, and ALL interested parties...
The mystery is solved, here's a resume of a cross check Olaf and I
just did in private...
>I put it all online now. You find the 32 pages of the Norwegian version at
>http://www.andebyonline.com/paperolimpiadi/
>
>(to see all pages at once, press "The whole story".)
Some details...
>> .. and the penultimate page...
>>
>> Layout: 3x2 regular (6 panels)
>> first: FOOOOOH! (out of bamboowall)
>> last: Kim sadly returns home for dinner
>
>Penultimate? Does that mean second last?`Hm... That's what page 30 in the
>Norwegian edition looks like. I guess that means the original page 31 has
>grown into two pages...?
It's worse than that... your first hunch was, as it happens,
correct, and page 32 of the Norwegian reprint is COMPLETELY
MISSING in the Italian original, which ends at...
>Norwegian page 31:
>Layout: 3x2 regular with top and bottom row being double panels (4 panels)
>first: ship with Kim and family leaving Korea
>last: They leave the tree, Kim saying to be careful as he doesn't want to
>use ALL the blue powder
In the Italian editions a strip on the last panel's bottom says here
- End of part 3, see you next week -
So, Olaf, you've got yourself a SCOOP here... :-)
Next question is, obviously, anyone's got a nicely large scan of
that page 32 ? :-)
Cheers!
Eta Beta
The mystery is solved, here's a resume of a cross check Olaf and I
just did in private...
>I put it all online now. You find the 32 pages of the Norwegian version at
>http://www.andebyonline.com/paperolimpiadi/
>
>(to see all pages at once, press "The whole story".)
Some details...
>> .. and the penultimate page...
>>
>> Layout: 3x2 regular (6 panels)
>> first: FOOOOOH! (out of bamboowall)
>> last: Kim sadly returns home for dinner
>
>Penultimate? Does that mean second last?`Hm... That's what page 30 in the
>Norwegian edition looks like. I guess that means the original page 31 has
>grown into two pages...?
It's worse than that... your first hunch was, as it happens,
correct, and page 32 of the Norwegian reprint is COMPLETELY
MISSING in the Italian original, which ends at...
>Norwegian page 31:
>Layout: 3x2 regular with top and bottom row being double panels (4 panels)
>first: ship with Kim and family leaving Korea
>last: They leave the tree, Kim saying to be careful as he doesn't want to
>use ALL the blue powder
In the Italian editions a strip on the last panel's bottom says here
- End of part 3, see you next week -
So, Olaf, you've got yourself a SCOOP here... :-)
Next question is, obviously, anyone's got a nicely large scan of
that page 32 ? :-)
Cheers!
Eta Beta
Olaf Solstrand
Pages of the Paperolimpiadi
Message 205 -
2004-04-09 at 18:50:13
P? Fri, 9 Apr 2004 16:02:38 +0200, skrev Eta Beta <psersimmon at eega.net>:
>> Norwegian page 31:
>> Layout: 3x2 regular with top and bottom row being double panels (4
>> panels)
>> first: ship with Kim and family leaving Korea
>> last: They leave the tree, Kim saying to be careful as he doesn't want
>> to use ALL the blue powder
>
> In the Italian editions a strip on the last panel's bottom says here
>
> - End of part 3, see you next week -
>
>
> So, Olaf, you've got yourself a SCOOP here... :-)
>
>
> Next question is, obviously, anyone's got a nicely large scan of
> that page 32 ? :-)
I still don't have a scanner, but I've put a nicely large (179kb) photo of
this page online now.
http://www.andebyonline.com/paperolimpiadi/the_missing_page_95.jpg
I also put a brief translation of the words online:
http://www.andebyonline.com/paperolimpiadi/the_missing_page_95.txt
Olaf
>> Norwegian page 31:
>> Layout: 3x2 regular with top and bottom row being double panels (4
>> panels)
>> first: ship with Kim and family leaving Korea
>> last: They leave the tree, Kim saying to be careful as he doesn't want
>> to use ALL the blue powder
>
> In the Italian editions a strip on the last panel's bottom says here
>
> - End of part 3, see you next week -
>
>
> So, Olaf, you've got yourself a SCOOP here... :-)
>
>
> Next question is, obviously, anyone's got a nicely large scan of
> that page 32 ? :-)
I still don't have a scanner, but I've put a nicely large (179kb) photo of
this page online now.
http://www.andebyonline.com/paperolimpiadi/the_missing_page_95.jpg
I also put a brief translation of the words online:
http://www.andebyonline.com/paperolimpiadi/the_missing_page_95.txt
Olaf
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Donald as newpaper reporter in Lost Beneath the Sea and Dime and
Message 206 -
2004-04-10 at 19:02:27
Here's some more information about Donald as newspaper reporter in
Barks's 'Lost Beneath the Sea' and Blum/Mota's 'From Dime to Dime'
(a.k.a. 'Dime and Dime Again').
About 'Lost Beneath the Sea', Barks wrote in an April 22, more or less,
1991 letter to Don Rosa:
"I agree with you that the Number One Dime should not be treated as a
*good luck charm*. It contradicts the way Uncle Scrooge *really* made
his fortune, but woe is me! I blatantly violated that rule in at least
one story, U.S. #46, "Lost Beneath the Sea." I not only had Scrooge
calling the old dime a "boodle-bringer," I demonstrated such powers at
points in the story."
Barks tried to explain the "boodle-bringer" good luck charm concept
away in a new story synopsis, included as part of the letter.
Most of this synopsis has been converted into a story titled 'From
Dime to Dime', retitled 'Dime and Dime Again' (D D 2001-004). Written
by Geoffrey Blum, drawn by Carlos Mota. Published in Gemstone's 'Uncle
$crooge 321' and 'Uncle $crooge 322'.
Maybe this explains the connection between Donald's job as newspaper
reporter in 'Lost Beneath the Sea' and Blum's story adaptation of
Barks's dime synopsis.
BTW. A difference is that in Blum's story, Donald has a photo camera
and tries to make some photo's.
My email of 21 June 2003 contains more information on Barks's synopsis.
http://stp.ling.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2003-June/023412.html
--- Dani?l
"Take your bulb horns and go back to Bulgaria!"
hint #1: "The Love Song Of A Bulgarian Tree Toad!"
hint #2: "My word! What UNUSUAL answers!"
hint #3: "Yoo hoo! One - two - three! Testing!"
Barks's 'Lost Beneath the Sea' and Blum/Mota's 'From Dime to Dime'
(a.k.a. 'Dime and Dime Again').
About 'Lost Beneath the Sea', Barks wrote in an April 22, more or less,
1991 letter to Don Rosa:
"I agree with you that the Number One Dime should not be treated as a
*good luck charm*. It contradicts the way Uncle Scrooge *really* made
his fortune, but woe is me! I blatantly violated that rule in at least
one story, U.S. #46, "Lost Beneath the Sea." I not only had Scrooge
calling the old dime a "boodle-bringer," I demonstrated such powers at
points in the story."
Barks tried to explain the "boodle-bringer" good luck charm concept
away in a new story synopsis, included as part of the letter.
Most of this synopsis has been converted into a story titled 'From
Dime to Dime', retitled 'Dime and Dime Again' (D D 2001-004). Written
by Geoffrey Blum, drawn by Carlos Mota. Published in Gemstone's 'Uncle
$crooge 321' and 'Uncle $crooge 322'.
Maybe this explains the connection between Donald's job as newspaper
reporter in 'Lost Beneath the Sea' and Blum's story adaptation of
Barks's dime synopsis.
BTW. A difference is that in Blum's story, Donald has a photo camera
and tries to make some photo's.
My email of 21 June 2003 contains more information on Barks's synopsis.
http://stp.ling.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2003-June/023412.html
--- Dani?l
"Take your bulb horns and go back to Bulgaria!"
hint #1: "The Love Song Of A Bulgarian Tree Toad!"
hint #2: "My word! What UNUSUAL answers!"
hint #3: "Yoo hoo! One - two - three! Testing!"
Olaf Solstrand
Donald as newpaper reporter in Lost Beneath the Sea and Dime
Message 207 -
2004-04-10 at 19:56:29
P? Sat, 10 Apr 2004 18:02:27 +0200, skrev Daniel van Eijmeren
<dve at kabelfoon.nl>:
> Most of this synopsis has been converted into a story titled 'From Dime
> to Dime', retitled 'Dime and Dime Again' (D D 2001-004). Written by
> Geoffrey Blum, drawn by Carlos Mota. Published in Gemstone's 'Uncle
> $crooge 321' and 'Uncle $crooge 322'.
Additional information:
Most of this synopsis has also, years before "Dime and Dime Again", been
converted into ANOTHER story titled 'The Recluse of McDuck Manor', retitled
'The Richest Duck in the World' (D 93488). Written by Don Rosa, drawn by
Don Rosa. Published in Gladstone's 'Uncle $scrooge 296'.
--
Olaf Solstrand
<dve at kabelfoon.nl>:
> Most of this synopsis has been converted into a story titled 'From Dime
> to Dime', retitled 'Dime and Dime Again' (D D 2001-004). Written by
> Geoffrey Blum, drawn by Carlos Mota. Published in Gemstone's 'Uncle
> $crooge 321' and 'Uncle $crooge 322'.
Additional information:
Most of this synopsis has also, years before "Dime and Dime Again", been
converted into ANOTHER story titled 'The Recluse of McDuck Manor', retitled
'The Richest Duck in the World' (D 93488). Written by Don Rosa, drawn by
Don Rosa. Published in Gladstone's 'Uncle $scrooge 296'.
--
Olaf Solstrand
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Lost Beneath the Sea / good luck charms / boodle-bringers
Message 208 -
2004-04-10 at 20:25:37
As quoted in my previous email, Barks has written that he thinks that "the
Number One Dime should not be treated as a *good luck charm*. It contradicts
the way Uncle Scrooge *really* made his fortune, but woe is me!"
Barks continues by saying that he "blatantly violated that rule in at least
one story", 'Lost Beneath the Sea' (US 46): "I not only had Scrooge calling
the old dime a "boodle-bringer," I demonstrated such powers at points in the
story."
Reading through 'Lost Beneath the Sea', I think the dime's luck has more
to do with Scrooge's self-confidence than with any magical powers. I have
some detailed notes on this, but my overall conclusion was that Scrooge has
carried the dime with him for so long, that he has become *addicted* to the
dime's presence. Whenever Scrooge looses the dime, he loses his nerves, his
self-confidence. And then he panicks and leaves his business alone, with
financial disasters as a result.
This would mean that the "powers" of the dime are mostly the results of
Scrooge's self-fullfilling prophecy, sometimes catalyzed by coincidences.
(Coincidences like unexpected movements of the world's economy.)
In 'Lost Beneath the Sea', Scrooge loses his mind whenever he hears about
losing his fortune. He doesn't do anything to turn the tide.
In Barks's dime synopsis for Rosa, adaptated by Blum/Mota, Scrooge has
similar panicks. But after a while, Scrooge's state suddenly changes,
saying: "Luck! I didn't make my fortune by being lucky. I made it in
the old-fashioned way! By hard work." And so, he decides to go back to
the hills, making a new fortune *without* Old Number One. This appears
to finally debunk the dime's "boodle-bringer" powers. But as soon as
Scrooge is sure of this explanation, Barks added a final twist...
And that twist seems to build a bridge between the two concepts of the
dime as "boodle-bringer" and the dime as "a memento of the way Scrooge
got his start".
Personally, I'm pleased with that bridge. In the past, I've rarely liked
stories with Old Number One as "boodle-bringer". The main reason was that
I didn't like Scrooge's over-emphasized neurotic behaviour in most of them.
Nowadays, Barks's synopsis, or at least my interpretation of it, seems to
explain both Scrooge behaviour and his loss of fortune. And so, it gives
me a way to understand Scrooge's character in such situations. He's just
running after his own self-fullfilling prophecy, in such cases.
I'm curious what people think of these suggestions.
BTW. See my previous email for more details about Barks's synopsis and its
comic book adaptation by Blum/Mota.
--- Dani?l
"Take your bulb horns and go back to Bulgaria!"
hint #1: "The Love Song Of A Bulgarian Tree Toad!"
hint #2: "My word! What UNUSUAL answers!"
hint #3: "Yoo hoo! One - two - three! Testing!"
Number One Dime should not be treated as a *good luck charm*. It contradicts
the way Uncle Scrooge *really* made his fortune, but woe is me!"
Barks continues by saying that he "blatantly violated that rule in at least
one story", 'Lost Beneath the Sea' (US 46): "I not only had Scrooge calling
the old dime a "boodle-bringer," I demonstrated such powers at points in the
story."
Reading through 'Lost Beneath the Sea', I think the dime's luck has more
to do with Scrooge's self-confidence than with any magical powers. I have
some detailed notes on this, but my overall conclusion was that Scrooge has
carried the dime with him for so long, that he has become *addicted* to the
dime's presence. Whenever Scrooge looses the dime, he loses his nerves, his
self-confidence. And then he panicks and leaves his business alone, with
financial disasters as a result.
This would mean that the "powers" of the dime are mostly the results of
Scrooge's self-fullfilling prophecy, sometimes catalyzed by coincidences.
(Coincidences like unexpected movements of the world's economy.)
In 'Lost Beneath the Sea', Scrooge loses his mind whenever he hears about
losing his fortune. He doesn't do anything to turn the tide.
In Barks's dime synopsis for Rosa, adaptated by Blum/Mota, Scrooge has
similar panicks. But after a while, Scrooge's state suddenly changes,
saying: "Luck! I didn't make my fortune by being lucky. I made it in
the old-fashioned way! By hard work." And so, he decides to go back to
the hills, making a new fortune *without* Old Number One. This appears
to finally debunk the dime's "boodle-bringer" powers. But as soon as
Scrooge is sure of this explanation, Barks added a final twist...
And that twist seems to build a bridge between the two concepts of the
dime as "boodle-bringer" and the dime as "a memento of the way Scrooge
got his start".
Personally, I'm pleased with that bridge. In the past, I've rarely liked
stories with Old Number One as "boodle-bringer". The main reason was that
I didn't like Scrooge's over-emphasized neurotic behaviour in most of them.
Nowadays, Barks's synopsis, or at least my interpretation of it, seems to
explain both Scrooge behaviour and his loss of fortune. And so, it gives
me a way to understand Scrooge's character in such situations. He's just
running after his own self-fullfilling prophecy, in such cases.
I'm curious what people think of these suggestions.
BTW. See my previous email for more details about Barks's synopsis and its
comic book adaptation by Blum/Mota.
--- Dani?l
"Take your bulb horns and go back to Bulgaria!"
hint #1: "The Love Song Of A Bulgarian Tree Toad!"
hint #2: "My word! What UNUSUAL answers!"
hint #3: "Yoo hoo! One - two - three! Testing!"
Hans
Barks "Pip Squeeks" 1953 Daily?
Message 209 -
2004-04-11 at 00:09:25
Does anyone have more information about this:
http://images.heritagecoin.com/images/HNAI/300/811/811006029o.jpg
Thanks, Hans
http://images.heritagecoin.com/images/HNAI/300/811/811006029o.jpg
Thanks, Hans
Ramapith
"Dime and Dime Again" is not called "From Dime to Dime"
Message 210 -
2004-04-11 at 00:41:09
Hey, everyone...
As an Egmont employee, allow me to make it known that "Dime and Dime Again" is, and always has been, the real Egmont title for the story D/D 2001-004.
"From Dime to Dime" is entirely an Inducks error (probably originating when someone tried to repeat the story's punny title from memory), and we need to fix it there. The story has never really been called by that name.
I notice that some non-Inducks websites have also called the story "From Dime to Dime". If anyone reading this letter manages one of those sites, the title should be fixed there too.
I think it's important to correct this for the historical record.
David
As an Egmont employee, allow me to make it known that "Dime and Dime Again" is, and always has been, the real Egmont title for the story D/D 2001-004.
"From Dime to Dime" is entirely an Inducks error (probably originating when someone tried to repeat the story's punny title from memory), and we need to fix it there. The story has never really been called by that name.
I notice that some non-Inducks websites have also called the story "From Dime to Dime". If anyone reading this letter manages one of those sites, the title should be fixed there too.
I think it's important to correct this for the historical record.
David