Hello everybody.
I been looking at some internet auctions for used Disney comic books.
They are described with terms such as "Fine", "Very fine", "Very good",
"Near mint" etc.
Does anyone know if there exist some standard definitions of these grades?
Thanks you very much.
Niels
Author
Topic: 200404
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Niels Houlberg Hansen
Grading of 2nd hand comic books
Message 301 -
2004-04-26 at 12:13:06
Lars Jensen
Who is Douglas McDuck?
Message 302 -
2004-04-26 at 13:54:19
Daniel J. Neyer wrote:
> I've been wondering about a character who appeared a couple months
> back in Gemstone's Uncle Scrooge 327--Scrooge's cousin Douglas
> McDuck.
I'll quote myself from a previous posting
(http://stp.ling.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2002-November/020838.html):
> This character was created by Stefan Printz-PÄhlson and Vicar and
> first showed up in D 5560. According to SPP, the character's first
> name was Douglas. Douglas' second appearance (as far as we know) was
> in my story "Gall in the family" (D 99252), where I in my synopsis
> implied Douglas' and Scrooge's fathers were brothers. (And SPP has
> since decided that Douglas' full name is Douglas McDuck.) However,
> since the relationship between the fathers was only implied, there's a
> possibility Douglas' actual relationship with Scrooge will turn out to
> be different. I (or SPP) still haven't made a decision on that,
> though.
("Gall in the Family" is the Egmont title for the story that Gemstone
called "Gold Foolery".)
If I remember correctly, in D 5560 (a Scrooge story with the poetic
title "Visits Cousin") we learn that Scrooge and Douglas left Scotland
together to search for prosperity in the New World. When they arrived in
the Klondike, they at one point were traveling down a road, only to find
it splitting into two. Scrooge wanted to go in one direction, Douglas in
another. So they split, and Scrooge went on to find gold and become the
World's Richest Duck. Douglas, on the other hand, didn't fare as well...
By the way, it should be pointed out that there are apparently more than
one Douglas McDuck out there. Look at listmember Gilles Maurice's
impressive Duck Family Tree here for more on that:
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/trees/myducktree.html .
Lars
> I've been wondering about a character who appeared a couple months
> back in Gemstone's Uncle Scrooge 327--Scrooge's cousin Douglas
> McDuck.
I'll quote myself from a previous posting
(http://stp.ling.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2002-November/020838.html):
> This character was created by Stefan Printz-PÄhlson and Vicar and
> first showed up in D 5560. According to SPP, the character's first
> name was Douglas. Douglas' second appearance (as far as we know) was
> in my story "Gall in the family" (D 99252), where I in my synopsis
> implied Douglas' and Scrooge's fathers were brothers. (And SPP has
> since decided that Douglas' full name is Douglas McDuck.) However,
> since the relationship between the fathers was only implied, there's a
> possibility Douglas' actual relationship with Scrooge will turn out to
> be different. I (or SPP) still haven't made a decision on that,
> though.
("Gall in the Family" is the Egmont title for the story that Gemstone
called "Gold Foolery".)
If I remember correctly, in D 5560 (a Scrooge story with the poetic
title "Visits Cousin") we learn that Scrooge and Douglas left Scotland
together to search for prosperity in the New World. When they arrived in
the Klondike, they at one point were traveling down a road, only to find
it splitting into two. Scrooge wanted to go in one direction, Douglas in
another. So they split, and Scrooge went on to find gold and become the
World's Richest Duck. Douglas, on the other hand, didn't fare as well...
By the way, it should be pointed out that there are apparently more than
one Douglas McDuck out there. Look at listmember Gilles Maurice's
impressive Duck Family Tree here for more on that:
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/trees/myducktree.html .
Lars
Don Rosa
DCML Digest Issue 43
Message 303 -
2004-04-26 at 17:09:46
> From: "Anthony Vuono" <avuono at UDel.Edu>
> Subject: Update?
> Dear Don Rosa,
> This is my usual email asking how your latest story is
> progressing. Are
> you at the inking stage yet of "The Three Caballeros and the
> Mines of Fear?"
Ever-so-slowly. My time spent answering e-mail constantly digs into my
workday. I've been sitting here for 2 hours just this morning, trying to get
at least the short e-mail replies written. And dealing with eBay purchases
and DVD orders and everything else I wish I had a "personal assistant" to
handle!
I am part way through the final inking stage on this story. I've decided to
title it "The Magnificent Seven (Minus Four) Caballeros". The other title
was a play-on-words that would not work in any language but English, so it
would be the same as not giving the story a title at all and allowing the
translators to each make up their own titles, which I don't wish to do since
story titles are important to me.
> Also, has the issue been resolved over the cable car station at Sugar Loaf
> Mountain in Brazil?
It's been "resolved" in that I've already inked those panels, so it's too
late for further research. But apparently no photos seem to exist of the
pre-1960 cable car stations, considering how many people I've had searching
for them, even right in Rio. So I show 1950's cable cars entering 1960+
stations. But which will puzzle the readers in Rio? Not my use of the modern
stations which they see in real life. It's my use of cable cars that they
have never seen that will puzzle them. But perhaps they will take a clue
from the fact that I show Donald arriving in Rio on a 1949 Boeing
Strat-o-Cruiser turboprop airliner. Or perhaps not. Can't be helped. At
least when I visit Brazil next month I'll be able to explain the situation
in advance...
> Subject: Update?
> Dear Don Rosa,
> This is my usual email asking how your latest story is
> progressing. Are
> you at the inking stage yet of "The Three Caballeros and the
> Mines of Fear?"
Ever-so-slowly. My time spent answering e-mail constantly digs into my
workday. I've been sitting here for 2 hours just this morning, trying to get
at least the short e-mail replies written. And dealing with eBay purchases
and DVD orders and everything else I wish I had a "personal assistant" to
handle!
I am part way through the final inking stage on this story. I've decided to
title it "The Magnificent Seven (Minus Four) Caballeros". The other title
was a play-on-words that would not work in any language but English, so it
would be the same as not giving the story a title at all and allowing the
translators to each make up their own titles, which I don't wish to do since
story titles are important to me.
> Also, has the issue been resolved over the cable car station at Sugar Loaf
> Mountain in Brazil?
It's been "resolved" in that I've already inked those panels, so it's too
late for further research. But apparently no photos seem to exist of the
pre-1960 cable car stations, considering how many people I've had searching
for them, even right in Rio. So I show 1950's cable cars entering 1960+
stations. But which will puzzle the readers in Rio? Not my use of the modern
stations which they see in real life. It's my use of cable cars that they
have never seen that will puzzle them. But perhaps they will take a clue
from the fact that I show Donald arriving in Rio on a 1949 Boeing
Strat-o-Cruiser turboprop airliner. Or perhaps not. Can't be helped. At
least when I visit Brazil next month I'll be able to explain the situation
in advance...
Mads Jensen
DCML Digest, Vol 14, Issue 45
Message 304 -
2004-04-26 at 17:25:33
Hi Niels
> I been looking at some internet auctions for used Disney comic books.
> They are described with terms such as "Fine", "Very fine", "Very good",
> "Near mint" etc.
> Does anyone know if there exist some standard definitions of these grades?
These grades derive from Overstreet's price guide, and I'm pretty sure
that you'll find a definition in Komiklex in the beginning.
I don't know about others, but I know most Germans made up their own
scale, ranging from Z0 til Z-something, where Z0 is equal to Mint.
Best wishes,
Mads
--
Mads Jensen
http://www.ddfr.dk
> I been looking at some internet auctions for used Disney comic books.
> They are described with terms such as "Fine", "Very fine", "Very good",
> "Near mint" etc.
> Does anyone know if there exist some standard definitions of these grades?
These grades derive from Overstreet's price guide, and I'm pretty sure
that you'll find a definition in Komiklex in the beginning.
I don't know about others, but I know most Germans made up their own
scale, ranging from Z0 til Z-something, where Z0 is equal to Mint.
Best wishes,
Mads
--
Mads Jensen
http://www.ddfr.dk
Didier Ghez
Donald Duck exhibit in Dutch museum
Message 305 -
2004-04-26 at 19:19:55
Arthur you mentionned a Donald Duck exhibit in Dutch museum. Did they release a catalog for that exhibit ?
Best.
Didier
Best.
Didier
Kintoun
Grading of 2nd hand comic books
Message 306 -
2004-04-26 at 20:15:45
> Hello everybody.
>
> I been looking at some internet auctions for used Disney comic books.
> They are described with terms such as "Fine", "Very fine", "Very good",
> "Near mint" etc.
> Does anyone know if there exist some standard definitions of these grades?
The official "Free Comic Book Day" annual event web site has a very thorough
section devoted to these terms. You can check it at
http://www.freecomicbookday.com/new_grading.asp
The most important thing to keep in mind is how old a particular issue
happens to be. For instance, Dell Disney comic books truly in near mint
condition are virtually impossible to find so it's unrealistic to search for
them in high grade.
Kintoun
>
> I been looking at some internet auctions for used Disney comic books.
> They are described with terms such as "Fine", "Very fine", "Very good",
> "Near mint" etc.
> Does anyone know if there exist some standard definitions of these grades?
The official "Free Comic Book Day" annual event web site has a very thorough
section devoted to these terms. You can check it at
http://www.freecomicbookday.com/new_grading.asp
The most important thing to keep in mind is how old a particular issue
happens to be. For instance, Dell Disney comic books truly in near mint
condition are virtually impossible to find so it's unrealistic to search for
them in high grade.
Kintoun
Arthur De Wolf
Donald Duck exhibit in Dutch museum
Message 307 -
2004-04-26 at 23:34:34
Hi,
Didier wrote:
> Donald Duck exhibit in Dutch museum. Did they release a
> catalog for that exhibit ?
I haven't been there yet, but the website mentions the following:
===
DONALD DUCK MUSEUM MAGAZINE
A special edition of the museum magazine is to appear in honour of 'Donald
Duck 70 years young' with contributions from:
- Thom Roep, Donald Duck expert and editor-in-chief of the weekly comic
Donald Duck. He looks back to the time when the Donald Duck comic was first
introduced in the Netherlands.
- Margot Welle, curator of the Cobra Museum, describes the work of the
Finnish artist Kaj Stenvall, who in the late nineteen eighties developed a
duck figure inspired by Donald Duck that since then has appeared in all his
paintings.
- the Austrian artist Gottfried Helnwein, who grew up with the cartoon
figure Donald Duck and who used this duck in a few of his works.
- Interview with the famous Donald Duck artist Carl Barks by Gottfried
Helnwein.
A superbly presented magazine, with a great number of colour illustrations.
It is 36 pages long and is available from the museum shop. It can also be
ordered by phone: 020 5475058 (Tuesday to Sunday from 11-17).
===
Kind regards,
Arthur
Didier wrote:
> Donald Duck exhibit in Dutch museum. Did they release a
> catalog for that exhibit ?
I haven't been there yet, but the website mentions the following:
===
DONALD DUCK MUSEUM MAGAZINE
A special edition of the museum magazine is to appear in honour of 'Donald
Duck 70 years young' with contributions from:
- Thom Roep, Donald Duck expert and editor-in-chief of the weekly comic
Donald Duck. He looks back to the time when the Donald Duck comic was first
introduced in the Netherlands.
- Margot Welle, curator of the Cobra Museum, describes the work of the
Finnish artist Kaj Stenvall, who in the late nineteen eighties developed a
duck figure inspired by Donald Duck that since then has appeared in all his
paintings.
- the Austrian artist Gottfried Helnwein, who grew up with the cartoon
figure Donald Duck and who used this duck in a few of his works.
- Interview with the famous Donald Duck artist Carl Barks by Gottfried
Helnwein.
A superbly presented magazine, with a great number of colour illustrations.
It is 36 pages long and is available from the museum shop. It can also be
ordered by phone: 020 5475058 (Tuesday to Sunday from 11-17).
===
Kind regards,
Arthur
Niels Houlberg Hansen
To Mads & Kintoun (Grading of 2nd hand comic books)
Message 308 -
2004-04-27 at 14:11:58
Thank you very much for your help.
Niels
>These grades derive from Overstreet's price guide, and I'm pretty sure
>that you'll find a definition in Komiklex in the beginning.
>I don't know about others, but I know most Germans made up their own
>scale, ranging from Z0 til Z-something, where Z0 is equal to Mint.
>Best wishes,
>Mads
>The official "Free Comic Book Day" annual event web site has a very
thorough
>section devoted to these terms. You can check it at
>http://www.freecomicbookday.com/new_grading.asp
>The most important thing to keep in mind is how old a particular issue
>happens to be. For instance, Dell Disney comic books truly in near mint
>condition are virtually impossible to find so it's unrealistic to search
for
>them in high grade.
>Kintoun
Niels
>These grades derive from Overstreet's price guide, and I'm pretty sure
>that you'll find a definition in Komiklex in the beginning.
>I don't know about others, but I know most Germans made up their own
>scale, ranging from Z0 til Z-something, where Z0 is equal to Mint.
>Best wishes,
>Mads
>The official "Free Comic Book Day" annual event web site has a very
thorough
>section devoted to these terms. You can check it at
>http://www.freecomicbookday.com/new_grading.asp
>The most important thing to keep in mind is how old a particular issue
>happens to be. For instance, Dell Disney comic books truly in near mint
>condition are virtually impossible to find so it's unrealistic to search
for
>them in high grade.
>Kintoun
Rodney-selfhelpbikeco
Comic conditions
Message 309 -
2004-04-27 at 16:43:34
>Dell Disney comic books truly in near mint
>condition are virtually impossible to find so it's unrealistic to >search for
>them in high grade.
And when they do occasionally turn up, they're very expensive, often over $100 while you can find a lower grade, but still attractive copy for far less.
An example: A few weeks ago, a copy of WDCS162 appeared on ebay that I would consider NM. I believe it sold for around $150. I have a copy of that same book, probably in VG/F condition that I bought at a local shop for $3.50 a few years ago.
WDCS was selling around 3 million copies in those days, but it was being sold to kids who actually *read* the books (often before putting them back on the rack at the drugstore). Very few issues of WDCS (or DD or US for that matter) are rare if you're just looking for some, but when you get into the higher grades, they're next to impossible to find.
rodney.
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>condition are virtually impossible to find so it's unrealistic to >search for
>them in high grade.
And when they do occasionally turn up, they're very expensive, often over $100 while you can find a lower grade, but still attractive copy for far less.
An example: A few weeks ago, a copy of WDCS162 appeared on ebay that I would consider NM. I believe it sold for around $150. I have a copy of that same book, probably in VG/F condition that I bought at a local shop for $3.50 a few years ago.
WDCS was selling around 3 million copies in those days, but it was being sold to kids who actually *read* the books (often before putting them back on the rack at the drugstore). Very few issues of WDCS (or DD or US for that matter) are rare if you're just looking for some, but when you get into the higher grades, they're next to impossible to find.
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Streetnames in Dutch city Almere
Message 310 -
2004-04-27 at 17:49:03
The comic fanzine Stripschrift reports: the Dutch city Almere will have a neighborhood with street names named after comic characters and comic creators. A.o. Marten Toonder, Hans G. Kresse, and Carol Voges. (The latter two also created Disney comics, but are more famous for their other comic work.)
Dutch comic connoisseur Kees Kousemaker reports: later, there will be more streets. In the most outer parts they'll also use names of non-Dutch comic maestros. Carl Barks and Franquin will certainly be amongst them.
--Harry.
Harry Fluks -- TNO Telecom -- Delft -- Nederland
h.w.fluks at telecom.tno.nl -- http://dd50.inducks.org
"Wie ben ik? Wat doe ik hier? Waar is mijn Roddelflop?"
Dutch comic connoisseur Kees Kousemaker reports: later, there will be more streets. In the most outer parts they'll also use names of non-Dutch comic maestros. Carl Barks and Franquin will certainly be amongst them.
--Harry.
Harry Fluks -- TNO Telecom -- Delft -- Nederland
h.w.fluks at telecom.tno.nl -- http://dd50.inducks.org
"Wie ben ik? Wat doe ik hier? Waar is mijn Roddelflop?"
Carey Furlong
Stratocruisers in Don's Stories
Message 311 -
2004-04-29 at 06:08:45
Excerpted from Don Rosa's reply, where he described how he had to compromise
on his depiction of the early Rio cable cars...
> have never seen that will puzzle them. But perhaps they will take a clue
> from the fact that I show Donald arriving in Rio on a 1949 Boeing
> Strat-o-Cruiser turboprop airliner. Or perhaps not. Can't be helped. At
> least when I visit Brazil next month I'll be able to explain the situation
> in advance...
I would certainly take a clue if I saw Donald arriving in a
Stratocruiser.
I'm a fan of the Boeing Stratocruiser (just look at my email
address), and I pointed out to the mailing list a few years ago
when Don included one in another story of his, The Sign of the
Triple Distelfink. I loved his drawing of that aircraft in that
story, and I'll be looking forward to seeing another one in his
new upcoming story.
The Stratocruiser wasn't a turboprop, though. A turboprop is a
hyprid aircraft engine, a jet engine really, with a turbine-driven
propeller that produced the principal thrust, augmented by the thrust
of the jet exhaust. A well known turboprop is Lockheed's Electra
(known to the military as the Orion). The Stratocruiser was a
descendant of the B-29, and used supercharged radial engines.
Sorry for the lengthy nit-pick, Don! I can't wait to see your new
Stratocruiser!
Carey Furlong
Dana Point, California
on his depiction of the early Rio cable cars...
> have never seen that will puzzle them. But perhaps they will take a clue
> from the fact that I show Donald arriving in Rio on a 1949 Boeing
> Strat-o-Cruiser turboprop airliner. Or perhaps not. Can't be helped. At
> least when I visit Brazil next month I'll be able to explain the situation
> in advance...
I would certainly take a clue if I saw Donald arriving in a
Stratocruiser.
I'm a fan of the Boeing Stratocruiser (just look at my email
address), and I pointed out to the mailing list a few years ago
when Don included one in another story of his, The Sign of the
Triple Distelfink. I loved his drawing of that aircraft in that
story, and I'll be looking forward to seeing another one in his
new upcoming story.
The Stratocruiser wasn't a turboprop, though. A turboprop is a
hyprid aircraft engine, a jet engine really, with a turbine-driven
propeller that produced the principal thrust, augmented by the thrust
of the jet exhaust. A well known turboprop is Lockheed's Electra
(known to the military as the Orion). The Stratocruiser was a
descendant of the B-29, and used supercharged radial engines.
Sorry for the lengthy nit-pick, Don! I can't wait to see your new
Stratocruiser!
Carey Furlong
Dana Point, California
Anthony Vuono
Black Knight Glorps Again?
Message 312 -
2004-04-29 at 10:29:53
To board:
Does anybody know when Rosa's "Black Knight Glorps Again will be
published" and in what issue(s)? Thanks!
Sincerely,
Anthony
Does anybody know when Rosa's "Black Knight Glorps Again will be
published" and in what issue(s)? Thanks!
Sincerely,
Anthony
Don Rosa
DCML Digest Issue 48
Message 313 -
2004-04-29 at 15:58:31
> From: "Carey Furlong" <stratocruiser at cox.net>
> Subject: Stratocruisers in Don's Stories
> I'm a fan of the Boeing Stratocruiser (just look at my email
> address), and I pointed out to the mailing list a few years ago
> when Don included one in another story of his, The Sign of the
> Triple Distelfink. I loved his drawing of that aircraft in that
> story, and I'll be looking forward to seeing another one in his
> new upcoming story.
Well, I guess that's always the same Strat-O-Cruiser (I like to write it
that way because it's fun) as I always use. I used it first in 1972 for that
"Pertwillaby Papers" story that I later turned into "The Son of the Sun".
Since I was at the engineering college at the time, I went and got a 1949
aviation yearbook out of the school library and copied one of those planes
probably just because I liked the corny name. But I am not going back to
consult that aviation annual each time I re-use the plane, I'm just looking
at the previous time I drew it... so I am probably drifting a bit off course
(to use an aviation term) as to what it really looked like.
> The Stratocruiser wasn't a turboprop, though. A turboprop is a
> hybrid aircraft engine, a jet engine really,
No, I really didn't know what "turboprop" meant when I just used that
term -- but in that original story, when I had the Strat-O-Cruiser crash in
the Amazon Jungle, I had my know-it-all hero casually identify one of the
bits of debris as a Scintilla-ignition Pratt & Whitney R-2180 series E-12
turbine. I assume that the yearbook described the design of the
Strat-O-Cruiser for me... am I correct that time?
How would Lance Pertwillaby know a 1940's turbine by manufacturer,
brand-name and series? When I sent my heroes on hunts for ancient treasures
I didn't have a Junior Woodchuck Guidebook to send with them -- so I had a
character who just plain knew everything there was to know. On the other
hand, I made him out as a sorta twit who couldn't put all his knowledge into
any sort of practical use... maybe a touch of the Gearloose in that regard.
> Subject: Stratocruisers in Don's Stories
> I'm a fan of the Boeing Stratocruiser (just look at my email
> address), and I pointed out to the mailing list a few years ago
> when Don included one in another story of his, The Sign of the
> Triple Distelfink. I loved his drawing of that aircraft in that
> story, and I'll be looking forward to seeing another one in his
> new upcoming story.
Well, I guess that's always the same Strat-O-Cruiser (I like to write it
that way because it's fun) as I always use. I used it first in 1972 for that
"Pertwillaby Papers" story that I later turned into "The Son of the Sun".
Since I was at the engineering college at the time, I went and got a 1949
aviation yearbook out of the school library and copied one of those planes
probably just because I liked the corny name. But I am not going back to
consult that aviation annual each time I re-use the plane, I'm just looking
at the previous time I drew it... so I am probably drifting a bit off course
(to use an aviation term) as to what it really looked like.
> The Stratocruiser wasn't a turboprop, though. A turboprop is a
> hybrid aircraft engine, a jet engine really,
No, I really didn't know what "turboprop" meant when I just used that
term -- but in that original story, when I had the Strat-O-Cruiser crash in
the Amazon Jungle, I had my know-it-all hero casually identify one of the
bits of debris as a Scintilla-ignition Pratt & Whitney R-2180 series E-12
turbine. I assume that the yearbook described the design of the
Strat-O-Cruiser for me... am I correct that time?
How would Lance Pertwillaby know a 1940's turbine by manufacturer,
brand-name and series? When I sent my heroes on hunts for ancient treasures
I didn't have a Junior Woodchuck Guidebook to send with them -- so I had a
character who just plain knew everything there was to know. On the other
hand, I made him out as a sorta twit who couldn't put all his knowledge into
any sort of practical use... maybe a touch of the Gearloose in that regard.
Mnaiman1
Guardians
Message 314 -
2004-04-29 at 19:00:13
I'm still looking for an issue of PICSOU with
the GUARDIANS OF THE LOST LIBRARY story...
willing to trade and/or pay for this with Scrooge items
Will someone have mercy on this poor soul
who desparately needs this issue?
Michael
the GUARDIANS OF THE LOST LIBRARY story...
willing to trade and/or pay for this with Scrooge items
Will someone have mercy on this poor soul
who desparately needs this issue?
Michael
ZeldasTriforce
Disney Global Art Pool
Message 315 -
2004-04-29 at 23:10:41
This is more or less a question for Gary Leach:
The cover of Mickey Mouse and Friends 264 is credited to the Disney Global
Art Pool. What is that? Thanks.
Derek Smith
The cover of Mickey Mouse and Friends 264 is credited to the Disney Global
Art Pool. What is that? Thanks.
Derek Smith