MATTHEW WILLIAMS to NILS SMEBY, 06-04-2004:
> Oh! Do any of you remember the rabbit eggs story? THAT is the one
> Barks story that I find offensively bad. Donald and Scrooge doesn't
> realize that rabbits don't lay eggs until the end? Ugh!
That's the art-only 'Delivery Dilemma' (WDC 291).
The wild rabbit eggs didn't bother me at all. Maybe it's because I find
the rest of the story so exciting, with Scrooge's extravagant attempts
to keep some silly eggs safe during a travel. That's already a great
moment on its own, I think.
And Scrooge might be stupid because of not thinking twice about wild
rabbit eggs, he still keeps his fortune because the Beagles Boys were
even *more* stupid than him, by mentioning the made-up "wild rabbit"
in the contract. If they just would have mentioned "eggs", they would
have had Scrooge's fortune. I liked that!
I think both the adventurous travel and this final spin, safe the story
from being poor. But that's just a matter of taste, of course.
Though Barks's records indicate that he did not originate this story, a
full "shooting script" in his holograph survives, showing that he reworked
the original idea so much as to make it his own. (Source: The Carl Barks
Library (10C-615).
I'm curious for the differences between the shooting script and Barks's
final result. For example, I would like to know if the wild rabbit eggs
and the final twist were in the shooting script as well.
--- Dani?l
"GROAN! Gasp! Alas! Alas! Oh, woe! Alas!"
(Which Barks story?) :-)
hint #1: it's not the spring gun canon story (WDC 134)
Author
Topic: 200404
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Daniel Van Eijmeren
Rabbit eggs (still in time for Easter?)
Message 226 -
2004-04-12 at 21:34:19
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Whacko eggs / Letter to Santa
Message 227 -
2004-04-12 at 22:07:23
SOEREN SCHRIDDE, 09-04-2004:
> which came first?
> - Being off mainstream, resulting in developing or keeping up a hobby
> seen by many as "childish" or
> - Reading Disney comics, resulting in furthering the development of
> other off-mainstream interests?
For me, it would be a question about the chicken or the egg. :-)
And just to muddy the waters further:
Good comics can help a lot in learning about the world, and about what
one can expect during real life. I often compare comics with fables
(fox and the raven) and fairy tales (Little Red Riding Hood), which
often contain a hidden warning.
For example, what will happen if people decide to stray off the path
by becoming a criminal? Just check some of Donald's adventures, where
Donald becomes one.
--- Dani?l
P.S. Hasn't anyone found the little visual error in Barks's "Letter to
Santa"? (CP 1) I expected it to be common knowlegde...
hint #1: look at Santa Donald while fighting with Santa Scrooge.
hint #2: look at Donald's custome on page 21 to 24.
> which came first?
> - Being off mainstream, resulting in developing or keeping up a hobby
> seen by many as "childish" or
> - Reading Disney comics, resulting in furthering the development of
> other off-mainstream interests?
For me, it would be a question about the chicken or the egg. :-)
And just to muddy the waters further:
Good comics can help a lot in learning about the world, and about what
one can expect during real life. I often compare comics with fables
(fox and the raven) and fairy tales (Little Red Riding Hood), which
often contain a hidden warning.
For example, what will happen if people decide to stray off the path
by becoming a criminal? Just check some of Donald's adventures, where
Donald becomes one.
--- Dani?l
P.S. Hasn't anyone found the little visual error in Barks's "Letter to
Santa"? (CP 1) I expected it to be common knowlegde...
hint #1: look at Santa Donald while fighting with Santa Scrooge.
hint #2: look at Donald's custome on page 21 to 24.
Martin S. Thoresen
Barks horror stories
Message 228 -
2004-04-13 at 00:52:28
Daniel van Eijmeren wrote:
> JEAN MARC BANO to me, 12-04-2004:
>
>> may be my comments were exaggerated about The Golden Fleecin but
>> i feel that the harpies are a little bit creepy albeit the dragon
>> at the end of the story is very funny;
>
> I was curious about the definition of the word "horror", and if 'The
> Golden Fleecing' (US 12) would within that definition.
>
> I'm also thinking of stories like 'The Old Castle's Secret' (OS 189)
> and 'Voodoo Hoodoo' (OS 238). Do they fit within the definition of
> horror?
>
> Or are they "thrillers"? I've always thought that horror was about
> 10 litres of blood coming from just one person. But as I have a weak
> heart, I'm not quite an expert on either "horrors" or "thrillers". :-)
To me, 10 litres of blood define the limit when a "horror" becomes
a "splatter" and loses it's "scary-ness".
But, the definition of "horror" is a much debated one, and most people
differ in their opinions about the genre.
For instance, Agatha Christies crime-novels have often been defined
as "horror".
I can only give my own definition of "horror", and that is something that
gives me a creepy feeling, that has a definite spooky atmosphere and
builds up slowly. Think of the classic horror-writers, like Edgar Allen Poe,
and H.P. Lovecraft (allthough, for some reason, every single movie-director
seems to believe
that Lovecraft can not be filmed without the aforementioned 10 litres of
blood).
Even Arthur Conan Doyle's books about Sherlock Holmes contained genuine
scary elements that I would classify as "horror". (Among them the infamous
"Hound of the Baskervilles", re-animated in "Hound of the Whiskervilles",
also a scary Barks story.)
And back to the question at hand; yes, I Would place these Barks stories in
a "horror" kind-of genre, especially the "Golden Fleecing" story which
really
frightened me as a child.
It's a combination of Barks often creepy, "dark" drawing style (which he
toned down
in his later years) and scary, atmospheric plots I would say. Many of my
favourite
Barks stories as a child, (and to this day) were among the ones I found
"creepy".
Another particular story I remember quite vividly, was the story about the
forest-fire,
where the Ducks were out camping and the Pete-look-alike started the forest
fire
which they were trapped in. I remember that the whole situation felt more
"real" and
dangerous than any other Duck-story I'd read until then, and it was
suspensful when
they had to bury themselves in the ground to avoid being burned alive.
(Another think
I like about the story is that shows Donalds practical side, and how he acts
as the "adult"
for once in a truly life-threatning situtation.)
(I will finish off with apoligies for any spelling mistakes, but I wrote too
much, and
I'm tired, and I'm Norwegian, and I've run out excuses.....)
- Martin S. Thoresen
> JEAN MARC BANO to me, 12-04-2004:
>
>> may be my comments were exaggerated about The Golden Fleecin but
>> i feel that the harpies are a little bit creepy albeit the dragon
>> at the end of the story is very funny;
>
> I was curious about the definition of the word "horror", and if 'The
> Golden Fleecing' (US 12) would within that definition.
>
> I'm also thinking of stories like 'The Old Castle's Secret' (OS 189)
> and 'Voodoo Hoodoo' (OS 238). Do they fit within the definition of
> horror?
>
> Or are they "thrillers"? I've always thought that horror was about
> 10 litres of blood coming from just one person. But as I have a weak
> heart, I'm not quite an expert on either "horrors" or "thrillers". :-)
To me, 10 litres of blood define the limit when a "horror" becomes
a "splatter" and loses it's "scary-ness".
But, the definition of "horror" is a much debated one, and most people
differ in their opinions about the genre.
For instance, Agatha Christies crime-novels have often been defined
as "horror".
I can only give my own definition of "horror", and that is something that
gives me a creepy feeling, that has a definite spooky atmosphere and
builds up slowly. Think of the classic horror-writers, like Edgar Allen Poe,
and H.P. Lovecraft (allthough, for some reason, every single movie-director
seems to believe
that Lovecraft can not be filmed without the aforementioned 10 litres of
blood).
Even Arthur Conan Doyle's books about Sherlock Holmes contained genuine
scary elements that I would classify as "horror". (Among them the infamous
"Hound of the Baskervilles", re-animated in "Hound of the Whiskervilles",
also a scary Barks story.)
And back to the question at hand; yes, I Would place these Barks stories in
a "horror" kind-of genre, especially the "Golden Fleecing" story which
really
frightened me as a child.
It's a combination of Barks often creepy, "dark" drawing style (which he
toned down
in his later years) and scary, atmospheric plots I would say. Many of my
favourite
Barks stories as a child, (and to this day) were among the ones I found
"creepy".
Another particular story I remember quite vividly, was the story about the
forest-fire,
where the Ducks were out camping and the Pete-look-alike started the forest
fire
which they were trapped in. I remember that the whole situation felt more
"real" and
dangerous than any other Duck-story I'd read until then, and it was
suspensful when
they had to bury themselves in the ground to avoid being burned alive.
(Another think
I like about the story is that shows Donalds practical side, and how he acts
as the "adult"
for once in a truly life-threatning situtation.)
(I will finish off with apoligies for any spelling mistakes, but I wrote too
much, and
I'm tired, and I'm Norwegian, and I've run out excuses.....)
- Martin S. Thoresen
Theresa Wiegert
Barks horror stories
Message 229 -
2004-04-13 at 01:06:01
On Mon, 12 Apr 2004, Martin S. Thoresen wrote:
> I'm tired, and I'm Norwegian, and I've run out excuses.....)
^
_________|
Good excuse though...! ;)
/Theresa (swede)
(oh, and just for the sake, the horror-genre of duck-stories is my
absolute favourite!! We should make an 'official' list of stories that
would be considered part of this genre!)
> I'm tired, and I'm Norwegian, and I've run out excuses.....)
^
_________|
Good excuse though...! ;)
/Theresa (swede)
(oh, and just for the sake, the horror-genre of duck-stories is my
absolute favourite!! We should make an 'official' list of stories that
would be considered part of this genre!)
Larry Giver
Daniel's Quiz
Message 230 -
2004-04-13 at 08:25:23
"GROAN! Gasp! Alas! Alas! Oh, woe! Alas!"
(Which Barks story?) :-)
Scrooge also hired Donald to worry about the Beagle Boys in
"All at Sea (US31)". This exact quote is from Page 9, Panel 3.
--- Larry.
(Which Barks story?) :-)
Scrooge also hired Donald to worry about the Beagle Boys in
"All at Sea (US31)". This exact quote is from Page 9, Panel 3.
--- Larry.
Kriton Kyrimis
Bing! You're hypnotized!
Message 231 -
2004-04-13 at 09:59:33
WARNING: Contains spoilers for "Forget It"!
I just read the US edition of "Forget It", which for some reason read as quite
a different story from the Greek edition, which I'd read last month. A quick
comparison between the two editions showed that the difference was in Magica's
explanation, in the beginning of the story, of what her spell did. In the
Greek edition, Magica says something along the lines of the spell being
summarized by the word "Bing!" and that the victim would hear the word "Bing!"
and forget the first thing he heard after hearing his name. It would seem that
the translator didn't get the "Bing! you're hypnotized" reference, and
rearranged the dialog trying to make sense of it. The result seemed to me so
silly that I apparently tuned it out and read the story as if that explanation
had not been given. Believe it or not, this was a great improvement to the
story, as I had to figure out, along with Donald and Scrooge, what the spell
was, while the story was unfolding. And when the spell was explained again,
near the end of the story, I just had to stop and reread the story, to verify
that it was indeed so. Compared to this misunderstood version, the original
version seemed to me as a mere series of gags on a common theme. Could it be
that one could actually *improve* on a story by Don?
Kriton.
-----
"Archaeologists should be able to get away with generalizations and guesswork
without representatives of long-dead civilizations coming along and laughing
at them."
-----
I just read the US edition of "Forget It", which for some reason read as quite
a different story from the Greek edition, which I'd read last month. A quick
comparison between the two editions showed that the difference was in Magica's
explanation, in the beginning of the story, of what her spell did. In the
Greek edition, Magica says something along the lines of the spell being
summarized by the word "Bing!" and that the victim would hear the word "Bing!"
and forget the first thing he heard after hearing his name. It would seem that
the translator didn't get the "Bing! you're hypnotized" reference, and
rearranged the dialog trying to make sense of it. The result seemed to me so
silly that I apparently tuned it out and read the story as if that explanation
had not been given. Believe it or not, this was a great improvement to the
story, as I had to figure out, along with Donald and Scrooge, what the spell
was, while the story was unfolding. And when the spell was explained again,
near the end of the story, I just had to stop and reread the story, to verify
that it was indeed so. Compared to this misunderstood version, the original
version seemed to me as a mere series of gags on a common theme. Could it be
that one could actually *improve* on a story by Don?
Kriton.
-----
"Archaeologists should be able to get away with generalizations and guesswork
without representatives of long-dead civilizations coming along and laughing
at them."
-----
Gary Leach
Letters and ads...
Message 232 -
2004-04-13 at 15:00:42
Derek:
> I was just wondering why DDA doesn't have a letters column of some
> sort. Is it just because the pages are so small that you'd be hard
> pressed to print more than one letter per page? I probably answered my
> own question, but I'd like to know.
You did answer your own question, to a point. Also, as we look at DDA
(and the forthcoming one-shot MMA) as books, rather than periodicals,
we're less inclined to want to include periodical-type features such as
letter columns.
Be that as it may, DDA 6 does include a letter column. Brief, as you
might suppose, but as these books are all about Disney comics we
thought it was time to offer some reader comment on them. (Maybe past
time, but there you go.)
> I'm sure I'm not the only one to notice that Gemstone's(or Diamond's
> though I think Gemstone is a division of that company) own
> advertisiments take up most or probably all of the advertising pages
> in the issues... Does Gemstone/Diamond want it that way or have not
> many other advertisiers wanted to put ads in the issues?
Getting ads for the comics is outside the purview of the
editorial/production department, so it's difficult for me to give a
good answer to this. What I can say is that our license permits
in-house and outside advertising, and we'd very much like to have both.
However, Disney must approve all advertising, no matter the source, and
that may have something of a damping effect on outside advertisers -
but it shouldn't altogether prevent us from acquiring some.
By the way, Gemstone is not a division of Diamond - it is a separate
corporate entity established by Steve Geppi, who also established
Diamond, and owns both.
Gary
> I was just wondering why DDA doesn't have a letters column of some
> sort. Is it just because the pages are so small that you'd be hard
> pressed to print more than one letter per page? I probably answered my
> own question, but I'd like to know.
You did answer your own question, to a point. Also, as we look at DDA
(and the forthcoming one-shot MMA) as books, rather than periodicals,
we're less inclined to want to include periodical-type features such as
letter columns.
Be that as it may, DDA 6 does include a letter column. Brief, as you
might suppose, but as these books are all about Disney comics we
thought it was time to offer some reader comment on them. (Maybe past
time, but there you go.)
> I'm sure I'm not the only one to notice that Gemstone's(or Diamond's
> though I think Gemstone is a division of that company) own
> advertisiments take up most or probably all of the advertising pages
> in the issues... Does Gemstone/Diamond want it that way or have not
> many other advertisiers wanted to put ads in the issues?
Getting ads for the comics is outside the purview of the
editorial/production department, so it's difficult for me to give a
good answer to this. What I can say is that our license permits
in-house and outside advertising, and we'd very much like to have both.
However, Disney must approve all advertising, no matter the source, and
that may have something of a damping effect on outside advertisers -
but it shouldn't altogether prevent us from acquiring some.
By the way, Gemstone is not a division of Diamond - it is a separate
corporate entity established by Steve Geppi, who also established
Diamond, and owns both.
Gary
Ola Martinsson
Barks horror stories
Message 233 -
2004-04-13 at 15:21:21
For me definitely the flying dutchman. In Sweden it was published in
three issues in a row and I thought that it was oh so exciting and I
just couldn't wait to read the continuation in the next issue.
Ola in sunny Stockholm +5
three issues in a row and I thought that it was oh so exciting and I
just couldn't wait to read the continuation in the next issue.
Ola in sunny Stockholm +5
Ola Martinsson
Rabbit eggs
Message 234 -
2004-04-13 at 15:24:54
In Sweden the eggs were wild turkey eggs and the nephew reads that there
are no customs inspectors on Rippan Taro. Is that were it says that
rabbits don't lay eggs in the american original ?
Ola in blue skye Stockholm
are no customs inspectors on Rippan Taro. Is that were it says that
rabbits don't lay eggs in the american original ?
Ola in blue skye Stockholm
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Barks horror stories / Mad dentists
Message 235 -
2004-04-13 at 15:49:49
MARTIN THORESEN to me, 12-04-2004:
> To me, 10 litres of blood define the limit when a "horror" becomes
> a "splatter" and loses it's "scary-ness".
Losing it's scary-ness? Not for me.
I already faint when I see a bottle of tomatoe ketchup! :-)
So, needless to say, I rarely watch bloody movies.
> But, the definition of "horror" is a much debated one, and most
> people differ in their opinions about the genre.
> For instance, Agatha Christies crime-novels have often been defined
> as "horror".
> I can only give my own definition of "horror", and that is something
> that gives me a creepy feeling, that has a definite spooky atmosphere
> and builds up slowly.
In The Netherlands we use the (untranslated) terms "horror" and "thriller"
for movies. Are we the only ones who seem to make a distinction between
these two terms?
I think 'Dangerous Disguise' (OS 308) might be a "thriller" according to
that distinction. But I'm only guessing here!
Other examples of Barks horror stories would be 'the Terror of the River!!'
(OS 108), and 'The Firebug' (OS 108). Right?
Just an off-topic thought: Has there ever been a horror movie about a mad,
evil dentist? :-) That's just about the most horrible theme I can imagine.
Even without blood. Brrrr!!!
And to make it on-topic: Has there ever been a Disney story with such a
mad dentist theme?
> (I will finish off with apoligies for any spelling mistakes, but I
> wrote too much, and I'm tired, and I'm Norwegian, and I've run out
> excuses.....)
:-D
--- Dani?l
Barks quiz: There's a little visual error in "Letter to Santa". (CP 1)
hint #1: look at Santa Donald while fighting with Santa Scrooge.
hint #2: look at Donald's custome on page 21 to 24.
hint #3: Donald's boot
> To me, 10 litres of blood define the limit when a "horror" becomes
> a "splatter" and loses it's "scary-ness".
Losing it's scary-ness? Not for me.
I already faint when I see a bottle of tomatoe ketchup! :-)
So, needless to say, I rarely watch bloody movies.
> But, the definition of "horror" is a much debated one, and most
> people differ in their opinions about the genre.
> For instance, Agatha Christies crime-novels have often been defined
> as "horror".
> I can only give my own definition of "horror", and that is something
> that gives me a creepy feeling, that has a definite spooky atmosphere
> and builds up slowly.
In The Netherlands we use the (untranslated) terms "horror" and "thriller"
for movies. Are we the only ones who seem to make a distinction between
these two terms?
I think 'Dangerous Disguise' (OS 308) might be a "thriller" according to
that distinction. But I'm only guessing here!
Other examples of Barks horror stories would be 'the Terror of the River!!'
(OS 108), and 'The Firebug' (OS 108). Right?
Just an off-topic thought: Has there ever been a horror movie about a mad,
evil dentist? :-) That's just about the most horrible theme I can imagine.
Even without blood. Brrrr!!!
And to make it on-topic: Has there ever been a Disney story with such a
mad dentist theme?
> (I will finish off with apoligies for any spelling mistakes, but I
> wrote too much, and I'm tired, and I'm Norwegian, and I've run out
> excuses.....)
:-D
--- Dani?l
Barks quiz: There's a little visual error in "Letter to Santa". (CP 1)
hint #1: look at Santa Donald while fighting with Santa Scrooge.
hint #2: look at Donald's custome on page 21 to 24.
hint #3: Donald's boot
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Howling helpers / Bible (Daniel's Quiz)
Message 236 -
2004-04-13 at 16:10:55
LARRY GIVER, 12-04-2004:
>> "GROAN! Gasp! Alas! Alas! Oh, woe! Alas!"
>> (Which Barks story?) :-)
> Scrooge also hired Donald to worry about the Beagle Boys in "All at
> Sea (US31)". This exact quote is from Page 9, Panel 3.
Correct! The other story is the spring gun canon story (WDC 134).
Could the hiring of howling people be a reference to real life? For
example, the time of the Bible's Old Testimony, where people were
hired to cry when someone died?
In my dictioniary I only see a female reference ("klaagvrouw").
It's translated as "hired mourner, mute".
I'm curious for comments.
--- Dani?l
"This is quite a mystery! Let's sit down with some pop and sandwiches
and figure it out!"
(Which Barks story?) :-)
>> "GROAN! Gasp! Alas! Alas! Oh, woe! Alas!"
>> (Which Barks story?) :-)
> Scrooge also hired Donald to worry about the Beagle Boys in "All at
> Sea (US31)". This exact quote is from Page 9, Panel 3.
Correct! The other story is the spring gun canon story (WDC 134).
Could the hiring of howling people be a reference to real life? For
example, the time of the Bible's Old Testimony, where people were
hired to cry when someone died?
In my dictioniary I only see a female reference ("klaagvrouw").
It's translated as "hired mourner, mute".
I'm curious for comments.
--- Dani?l
"This is quite a mystery! Let's sit down with some pop and sandwiches
and figure it out!"
(Which Barks story?) :-)
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Bing! You're hypnotized!
Message 237 -
2004-04-13 at 16:36:54
KRITON KYRIMIS, 13-04-2004:
> WARNING: Contains spoilers for [Rosa's] "Forget It"!
> I just read the US edition of "Forget It", which for some reason
> read as quite a different story from the Greek edition, which I'd
> read last month. A quick comparison between the two editions showed
> that the difference was in Magica's explanation, in the beginning of
> the story, of what her spell did.
I believe there was a dialogue difference in The Netherlands, too,
sligthly changing the original spell. But I'm not sure.
> Compared to this misunderstood version, the original version seemed to
> me as a mere series of gags on a common theme. Could it be that one
> could actually *improve* on a story by Don?
Why not?
I find Rosa's "Forget It" confusing, because I find the explanation of
Magica's spell too complicated. I find the idea behind the spell very
funny and interesting, though. It's just the explanation that I find
confusing.
Something similar happened with Rosa's "Trash and Treasure". There were
so many details and things going on, that I had to turn back pages to
see if there was something I missed. That ruined the story for me.
I found stories like "A Matter of Gravity" very funny because the basic
idea was so clear and simple. Just imagine sideway-gravity, that's all
the explanation that's needed to understand the story. I miss that
clarity in "Forget It".
--- Dani?l
> WARNING: Contains spoilers for [Rosa's] "Forget It"!
> I just read the US edition of "Forget It", which for some reason
> read as quite a different story from the Greek edition, which I'd
> read last month. A quick comparison between the two editions showed
> that the difference was in Magica's explanation, in the beginning of
> the story, of what her spell did.
I believe there was a dialogue difference in The Netherlands, too,
sligthly changing the original spell. But I'm not sure.
> Compared to this misunderstood version, the original version seemed to
> me as a mere series of gags on a common theme. Could it be that one
> could actually *improve* on a story by Don?
Why not?
I find Rosa's "Forget It" confusing, because I find the explanation of
Magica's spell too complicated. I find the idea behind the spell very
funny and interesting, though. It's just the explanation that I find
confusing.
Something similar happened with Rosa's "Trash and Treasure". There were
so many details and things going on, that I had to turn back pages to
see if there was something I missed. That ruined the story for me.
I found stories like "A Matter of Gravity" very funny because the basic
idea was so clear and simple. Just imagine sideway-gravity, that's all
the explanation that's needed to understand the story. I miss that
clarity in "Forget It".
--- Dani?l
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Donald, nephews, and judo
Message 238 -
2004-04-13 at 16:40:09
RODNEY BOWCOCK, 09-04-2004:
> Imagine my red face when I discovered that I had made a mistake in
> my description of Hall of the Mermaid Queen! [US 68] No, I didn't
> find that I liked it, but I did find that the nephews didn't learn
> judo, it was Donald. Now....I suppose I can accept the possibility
> of Huey, Dewey and Louie picking up judo somewhere along the line,
> but Donald?!
In panel 20.8, Donald says: "I knew if I got SCARED enough I could
remember my JUDO!"
Donald may have learned judo when he was as old as the nephews. He
just didn't *remember* it before, as adult. :-)
> He can't do anything right, much less pick up judo (though I'd love
> to see a Van Horn story where he tries to).
In the swimming race ten-pager (WDC 71), Donald is a remarkable good
swimmer. And in the water ski race (WDC 62) ten-pager, Donald isn't
really as bad a water skier as he seems to be. And maybe there are
other Barks stories in which Donald is good in sports?
But I will promptly agree that such stories are a minority (and should
stay that way), but still... I've never thought twice about this scene
of Donald remembering his judo. What do others think about it?
BTW. I hate (most) stories about sports. So, I'd rather see Donald stay
away from sports in *any* case. :-)
> What ruins it is that it's a rehash of 'Lost Beneath the Sea',
> which while good, was never a classic to begin with.
It also contains elements of 'A Christmas for Shacktown' (OS 367).
--- Dani?l
"This is quite a mystery! Let's sit down with some pop and sandwiches
and figure it out!"
(Which Barks story?) :-)
> Imagine my red face when I discovered that I had made a mistake in
> my description of Hall of the Mermaid Queen! [US 68] No, I didn't
> find that I liked it, but I did find that the nephews didn't learn
> judo, it was Donald. Now....I suppose I can accept the possibility
> of Huey, Dewey and Louie picking up judo somewhere along the line,
> but Donald?!
In panel 20.8, Donald says: "I knew if I got SCARED enough I could
remember my JUDO!"
Donald may have learned judo when he was as old as the nephews. He
just didn't *remember* it before, as adult. :-)
> He can't do anything right, much less pick up judo (though I'd love
> to see a Van Horn story where he tries to).
In the swimming race ten-pager (WDC 71), Donald is a remarkable good
swimmer. And in the water ski race (WDC 62) ten-pager, Donald isn't
really as bad a water skier as he seems to be. And maybe there are
other Barks stories in which Donald is good in sports?
But I will promptly agree that such stories are a minority (and should
stay that way), but still... I've never thought twice about this scene
of Donald remembering his judo. What do others think about it?
BTW. I hate (most) stories about sports. So, I'd rather see Donald stay
away from sports in *any* case. :-)
> What ruins it is that it's a rehash of 'Lost Beneath the Sea',
> which while good, was never a classic to begin with.
It also contains elements of 'A Christmas for Shacktown' (OS 367).
--- Dani?l
"This is quite a mystery! Let's sit down with some pop and sandwiches
and figure it out!"
(Which Barks story?) :-)
Martin S. Thoresen
Barks horror stories / Mad dentists
Message 239 -
2004-04-13 at 16:46:43
dcml-bounces at stp.ling.uu.se wrote:
> MARTIN THORESEN to me, 12-04-2004:
>
>> To me, 10 litres of blood define the limit when a "horror" becomes
>> a "splatter" and loses it's "scary-ness".
>
> Losing it's scary-ness? Not for me.
> I already faint when I see a bottle of tomatoe ketchup! :-)
>
> So, needless to say, I rarely watch bloody movies.
I rarely watch them too, but for the above reason, anything
with that much blood and gore becomes simply disgusting or
ridiculous, and that loses the "scary" atmosphere for me.
>> But, the definition of "horror" is a much debated one, and most
>> people differ in their opinions about the genre.
>> For instance, Agatha Christies crime-novels have often been defined
>> as "horror". I can only give my own definition of "horror", and that
>> is something that gives me a creepy feeling, that has a definite
>> spooky atmosphere and builds up slowly.
>
> In The Netherlands we use the (untranslated) terms "horror" and
> "thriller" for movies. Are we the only ones who seem to make a
> distinction between these two terms?
Oh no, I also make distinctions between "horror" and "thriller",
"thriller" to me is a story that's exciting and often convoluted,
but not neccesarily with a "scary" atmosphere. Like for instance,
a who-dunnitt or bank heist story would be a "thriller" to me.
Some movies blend the genres too, "The Ninth gate" would be a good
example of a "horror/thriller" movie/book.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0142688/
A horror, or in particular, a "gothic horror", can contain elements
of the thriller, but it must also present a psychological twist, hinting
at possible unseen horror/danger. Often putting the protagonist in a
life-threatening or uncomfortable situation.
> I think 'Dangerous Disguise' (OS 308) might be a "thriller" according
> to that distinction. But I'm only guessing here!
Well, that story is more of a spy-thriller, although it does have
some scary elements (among them Bark's humans).
> Other examples of Barks horror stories would be 'the Terror of the
> River!!' (OS 108), and 'The Firebug' (OS 108). Right?
I can't place these stories at the moment. Care to give me a short resym?e?
> Just an off-topic thought: Has there ever been a horror movie about a
> mad, evil dentist? :-) That's just about the most horrible theme I
> can imagine. Even without blood. Brrrr!!!
Oh, yes. Haven't seen it myself, but remember it from a videoshelf
long time ago. Ah, yes, here it is: (The Dentist, 1996)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116075/
I'm sure there are many more.
> And to make it on-topic: Has there ever been a Disney story with such
> a mad dentist theme?
I seem to recall a Mickey-story involving a mad dentist, with Goofy
being on the receiving end, but I'm not sure.
- Martin
> MARTIN THORESEN to me, 12-04-2004:
>
>> To me, 10 litres of blood define the limit when a "horror" becomes
>> a "splatter" and loses it's "scary-ness".
>
> Losing it's scary-ness? Not for me.
> I already faint when I see a bottle of tomatoe ketchup! :-)
>
> So, needless to say, I rarely watch bloody movies.
I rarely watch them too, but for the above reason, anything
with that much blood and gore becomes simply disgusting or
ridiculous, and that loses the "scary" atmosphere for me.
>> But, the definition of "horror" is a much debated one, and most
>> people differ in their opinions about the genre.
>> For instance, Agatha Christies crime-novels have often been defined
>> as "horror". I can only give my own definition of "horror", and that
>> is something that gives me a creepy feeling, that has a definite
>> spooky atmosphere and builds up slowly.
>
> In The Netherlands we use the (untranslated) terms "horror" and
> "thriller" for movies. Are we the only ones who seem to make a
> distinction between these two terms?
Oh no, I also make distinctions between "horror" and "thriller",
"thriller" to me is a story that's exciting and often convoluted,
but not neccesarily with a "scary" atmosphere. Like for instance,
a who-dunnitt or bank heist story would be a "thriller" to me.
Some movies blend the genres too, "The Ninth gate" would be a good
example of a "horror/thriller" movie/book.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0142688/
A horror, or in particular, a "gothic horror", can contain elements
of the thriller, but it must also present a psychological twist, hinting
at possible unseen horror/danger. Often putting the protagonist in a
life-threatening or uncomfortable situation.
> I think 'Dangerous Disguise' (OS 308) might be a "thriller" according
> to that distinction. But I'm only guessing here!
Well, that story is more of a spy-thriller, although it does have
some scary elements (among them Bark's humans).
> Other examples of Barks horror stories would be 'the Terror of the
> River!!' (OS 108), and 'The Firebug' (OS 108). Right?
I can't place these stories at the moment. Care to give me a short resym?e?
> Just an off-topic thought: Has there ever been a horror movie about a
> mad, evil dentist? :-) That's just about the most horrible theme I
> can imagine. Even without blood. Brrrr!!!
Oh, yes. Haven't seen it myself, but remember it from a videoshelf
long time ago. Ah, yes, here it is: (The Dentist, 1996)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116075/
I'm sure there are many more.
> And to make it on-topic: Has there ever been a Disney story with such
> a mad dentist theme?
I seem to recall a Mickey-story involving a mad dentist, with Goofy
being on the receiving end, but I'm not sure.
- Martin
Rodney-selfhelpbikeco
Rarely reprinted Barks stories
Message 240 -
2004-04-13 at 17:05:13
I'm working on a project while I'm logging all of the Barks stories that I have, then I'm going to consult the INDUCKS to find the stories that I'm missing and the various books where I can get these stories. Since I'm more interested in getting all of Barks' stories instead of full runs of certain titles, this seems to be the better bet (and will make the collecting process fun).
I'm surprised to discover some Barks stories that haven't been reprinted (aside from the Carl Barks Libraries)in over 20 years (since the Whitman run ended) and I'm wondering why Gemstone isn't publishing these stories like, The Gold Nugget Boat and Case of the Sticky Money (to name the Scrooge tales). Would anyone else like to see these?
rodney.
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I'm surprised to discover some Barks stories that haven't been reprinted (aside from the Carl Barks Libraries)in over 20 years (since the Whitman run ended) and I'm wondering why Gemstone isn't publishing these stories like, The Gold Nugget Boat and Case of the Sticky Money (to name the Scrooge tales). Would anyone else like to see these?
rodney.
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