Donald remembered his judo on page 20, panel 8 of the
Mermaid Queen, a 1967 Scrooge story. People were
wondering where he previously knew judo. Just last week
"The Waltz King" was the answer to another quiz by Daniel
van E, a 1947 story. In that very story Donald runs "Cyril,
Ludwig, and Theodore" off from the bus stop, thinking one
of them is waiting for Daisy. He's apparently using "Jiu Jitsu"
(page 6, panel 3), and can throw down all these opponents,
and the largest is about 5 times his size. As far as I know,
"judo" and "jiu jitsu" are just 2 names for the same style of fighting.
So I suggest Donald in the Mermaid Queen remembered
judo from this Waltz King story 20 years earlier.
-----Larry.
Author
Topic: 200404
(317 messages)
Larry Giver
Donald remembers his judo
Message 256 -
2004-04-14 at 04:58:07
Gary Leach
Back to a Poor Old Man
Message 257 -
2004-04-14 at 05:18:16
Daniel J. Neyer:
> I'd much prefer to see long-unseen Barks work than Only a Poor Old Man
> or Back to the Klondike for the twentieth time. Gemstone seems to be
> following the same procedure with Barks that Gladstone (second run)
> did with Gottfredson: only running stuff that's already been printed
> in albums. Is there some cost-cutting move behind this?
Gladstone, in fact, put practically every Barks story there is in
albums. We only fell short with most of the "Donald Duck Family"
material (as presented in the original CBL Set VI). Because of this,
most of Barks' stories are readily and inexpensively available for
Gemstone's use. The stories used to date by Gemstone have been purely
editorial choices.
Gary
> I'd much prefer to see long-unseen Barks work than Only a Poor Old Man
> or Back to the Klondike for the twentieth time. Gemstone seems to be
> following the same procedure with Barks that Gladstone (second run)
> did with Gottfredson: only running stuff that's already been printed
> in albums. Is there some cost-cutting move behind this?
Gladstone, in fact, put practically every Barks story there is in
albums. We only fell short with most of the "Donald Duck Family"
material (as presented in the original CBL Set VI). Because of this,
most of Barks' stories are readily and inexpensively available for
Gemstone's use. The stories used to date by Gemstone have been purely
editorial choices.
Gary
Sgarciab
Donald & judo
Message 258 -
2004-04-14 at 10:16:45
Dani?l:
>>I've never thought twice about this scene
of Donald remembering his judo. What do others think about it?
In the "costume ball dance contest" story, Donald gets mad about one
ten-feet tall guy at the bus stop who is supposed to be waiting for Daisy
and drops him down by means of judo (at least, in my translated copy).
Santiago.
>>I've never thought twice about this scene
of Donald remembering his judo. What do others think about it?
In the "costume ball dance contest" story, Donald gets mad about one
ten-feet tall guy at the bus stop who is supposed to be waiting for Daisy
and drops him down by means of judo (at least, in my translated copy).
Santiago.
Don Rosa
DCML Digest Issue 34
Message 259 -
2004-04-14 at 16:22:45
> From: Katie Sullivan <vazali at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Of Ducks and Dentists, and a note about Forgetting things
> I caught onto the gag in "Forget It!" right away, and laughed
> myself silly numerous times throughout the story.
> My dad had a little harder time getting into it, and here's
> why... Magica's explanation reads in English: "When a
> victim is under its spell, once he hears his name spoken, his
> memory will be wiped clean of the knowledge related to the next
> word he hears!"
> Dad got caught up on the "the NEXT WORD" part, since the first
> time the spell is used, that would mean Scrooge would forget
> about the word "Just."
That is a good point... and it occurs to me that I would have considered
that when writing my dialogue and I would *not* have written it that way. So
I just went and looked at my original script (too bad I can't load an image
onto the ML to show the original storyboard-script). I recall thinking that
I could not have Magica say "...his memory will be wiped clean of the
general idea described by the next noun in the subsequent phrase as an
object of a preposition or a hanging indefinite participle in the sense of
the specific function and-slash-or definition of etc., etc."... I would
filled up the entire panel with text, and there would still be somebody who
would accuse me of being too unclear or holding hostages or something else.
Anyway, the dialogue in my original script is "... his memory will be wiped
clean of the next thing he hears"... "thing" being an indefinite reference,
not at all as specific (and actually incorrect) as is "word", and allowing
the reader to catch on to what the "thing" concept is when the Ducks'
blanking memories soon demonstrate it.
> Subject: Re: Of Ducks and Dentists, and a note about Forgetting things
> I caught onto the gag in "Forget It!" right away, and laughed
> myself silly numerous times throughout the story.
> My dad had a little harder time getting into it, and here's
> why... Magica's explanation reads in English: "When a
> victim is under its spell, once he hears his name spoken, his
> memory will be wiped clean of the knowledge related to the next
> word he hears!"
> Dad got caught up on the "the NEXT WORD" part, since the first
> time the spell is used, that would mean Scrooge would forget
> about the word "Just."
That is a good point... and it occurs to me that I would have considered
that when writing my dialogue and I would *not* have written it that way. So
I just went and looked at my original script (too bad I can't load an image
onto the ML to show the original storyboard-script). I recall thinking that
I could not have Magica say "...his memory will be wiped clean of the
general idea described by the next noun in the subsequent phrase as an
object of a preposition or a hanging indefinite participle in the sense of
the specific function and-slash-or definition of etc., etc."... I would
filled up the entire panel with text, and there would still be somebody who
would accuse me of being too unclear or holding hostages or something else.
Anyway, the dialogue in my original script is "... his memory will be wiped
clean of the next thing he hears"... "thing" being an indefinite reference,
not at all as specific (and actually incorrect) as is "word", and allowing
the reader to catch on to what the "thing" concept is when the Ducks'
blanking memories soon demonstrate it.
M.J. Prior
A Letter from Home [spoiler]
Message 260 -
2004-04-14 at 18:34:40
Don Rosa wrote: (04-01-04)
> On the other hand, I could blame Matilda since *she* is
> the one imagining the scene. Actually, I more or less
> purposely forced her to make another error
> in that same panel... the Stone could not have been in
> Solomon's basement. It would have been an item that the
> Templars obtained elsewhere. But I needed to mention all > the pertinence treasures right at that moment, so I
> had her erroneously place the Stone in Sol's cellar.
And neither could the Grail have been in Solomon's
basement, since the Grail is supposed to be Jesus'
drinking cup from last Thursday's supper (am I confusing
things?) or the cup in which Jesus' blood was poured after
he'd been crucified. Oh, well.
> On the other hand, I could blame Matilda since *she* is
> the one imagining the scene. Actually, I more or less
> purposely forced her to make another error
> in that same panel... the Stone could not have been in
> Solomon's basement. It would have been an item that the
> Templars obtained elsewhere. But I needed to mention all > the pertinence treasures right at that moment, so I
> had her erroneously place the Stone in Sol's cellar.
And neither could the Grail have been in Solomon's
basement, since the Grail is supposed to be Jesus'
drinking cup from last Thursday's supper (am I confusing
things?) or the cup in which Jesus' blood was poured after
he'd been crucified. Oh, well.
Olaf Solstrand
A Letter from Home [spoiler]
Message 261 -
2004-04-14 at 19:10:03
P? Wed, 14 Apr 2004 17:34:40 +0200, skrev M.J. Prior
<M.J.Prior at student.rug.nl>:
> And neither could the Grail have been in Solomon's basement, since the
> Grail is supposed to be Jesus' drinking cup from last Thursday's supper
> (am I confusing things?) or the cup in which Jesus' blood was poured
> after he'd been crucified. Oh, well.
Uhm, but wasn't the Grail one of the things the Templar knights ADDED to
the treasury?
<M.J.Prior at student.rug.nl>:
> And neither could the Grail have been in Solomon's basement, since the
> Grail is supposed to be Jesus' drinking cup from last Thursday's supper
> (am I confusing things?) or the cup in which Jesus' blood was poured
> after he'd been crucified. Oh, well.
Uhm, but wasn't the Grail one of the things the Templar knights ADDED to
the treasury?
Dyer, Sonia
Hiring Howling people
Message 262 -
2004-04-14 at 21:06:52
Daniel van E wrote:
>Could the hiring of howling people be a reference to real life? For
>example, the time of the Bible's Old Testimony, where people were
>hired to cry when someone died?
>
>In my dictioniary I only see a female reference ("klaagvrouw").
>It's translated as "hired mourner, mute".
This was a common practice, even as far back as ancient Egypt, where the
larger and more grief-stricken the crowd following a person to be
buried, meant how much more important and respected they were, and how
much they would be missed. In practice, there were often "professional
mourners", usually women, who walked behind the real family members, and
would be keening. Keening is an old English word that means loud
wailing and crying and carrying on due to profound grief. I guess there
weren't a lot of job options for women in the old days.
>Could the hiring of howling people be a reference to real life? For
>example, the time of the Bible's Old Testimony, where people were
>hired to cry when someone died?
>
>In my dictioniary I only see a female reference ("klaagvrouw").
>It's translated as "hired mourner, mute".
This was a common practice, even as far back as ancient Egypt, where the
larger and more grief-stricken the crowd following a person to be
buried, meant how much more important and respected they were, and how
much they would be missed. In practice, there were often "professional
mourners", usually women, who walked behind the real family members, and
would be keening. Keening is an old English word that means loud
wailing and crying and carrying on due to profound grief. I guess there
weren't a lot of job options for women in the old days.
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Barks Quiz - pop and sandwiches
Message 263 -
2004-04-15 at 11:10:17
In private, someone guessed:
>> "This is quite a mystery! Let's sit down with some pop and sandwiches
>> and figure it out!"
>> (Which Barks story?) :-)
>> hint #1: "Keep an eye on the window!"
>> hint #2: something has happened with the food
> Is this the easter story with the witch?
Easter story with a witch? By Barks?
Which one would that be?
--- Dani?l
"This is quite a mystery! Let's sit down with some pop and sandwiches
and figure it out!"
(Which Barks story?) :-)
hint #1: "Keep an eye on the window!"
hint #2: something has happened with the food
hint #3: "Wish that guy would hurry!"
>> "This is quite a mystery! Let's sit down with some pop and sandwiches
>> and figure it out!"
>> (Which Barks story?) :-)
>> hint #1: "Keep an eye on the window!"
>> hint #2: something has happened with the food
> Is this the easter story with the witch?
Easter story with a witch? By Barks?
Which one would that be?
--- Dani?l
"This is quite a mystery! Let's sit down with some pop and sandwiches
and figure it out!"
(Which Barks story?) :-)
hint #1: "Keep an eye on the window!"
hint #2: something has happened with the food
hint #3: "Wish that guy would hurry!"
Dan Shane
FORGET IT! Original script segment...
Message 264 -
2004-04-15 at 14:03:10
DON WROTE:
> I just went and looked at my original script (too bad I can't load an
> image
> onto the ML to show the original storyboard-script). I recall thinking
> that
> I could not have Magica say "...his memory will be wiped clean of the
> general idea described by the next noun in the subsequent phrase as an
> object of a preposition or a hanging indefinite participle in the sense of
> the specific function and-slash-or definition of etc., etc."...
AND I REPLY:
So how about if I do it for you?
The script segment can be seen at:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/a/danshane/ForgetScript1.jpg
> I just went and looked at my original script (too bad I can't load an
> image
> onto the ML to show the original storyboard-script). I recall thinking
> that
> I could not have Magica say "...his memory will be wiped clean of the
> general idea described by the next noun in the subsequent phrase as an
> object of a preposition or a hanging indefinite participle in the sense of
> the specific function and-slash-or definition of etc., etc."...
AND I REPLY:
So how about if I do it for you?
The script segment can be seen at:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/a/danshane/ForgetScript1.jpg
Daniel J. Neyer
Pop and Sandwiches quote
Message 265 -
2004-04-15 at 17:56:20
I think this one is from the Trade Rat story in an early issue of WDC&S.
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Hi-Tech Havoc (Jippes story)
Message 266 -
2004-04-16 at 19:12:38
I got a message from Laurens Buijs (l.j.buijs at umail.leidenuniv.nl). He reports that the story "Hi-Tech Havoc" was written by his father, Thijs Buijs (and not by Daan Jippes, as we previously thought).
He is interested in getting copies of that particular story from all countries where it was printed.
According to Inducks (http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/story.php/0/H+78dd01b), the story was printed in Germany, Denmark, Finland, Italy, Norway, Sweden, and the US.
Any help is welcome!
--Harry.
Harry Fluks -- TNO Telecom -- Delft -- Nederland
h.w.fluks at telecom.tno.nl -- http://dd50.inducks.org
"Wie ben ik? Wat doe ik hier? Waar is mijn Roddelflop?"
He is interested in getting copies of that particular story from all countries where it was printed.
According to Inducks (http://coa.inducks.org/coa/c1/story.php/0/H+78dd01b), the story was printed in Germany, Denmark, Finland, Italy, Norway, Sweden, and the US.
Any help is welcome!
--Harry.
Harry Fluks -- TNO Telecom -- Delft -- Nederland
h.w.fluks at telecom.tno.nl -- http://dd50.inducks.org
"Wie ben ik? Wat doe ik hier? Waar is mijn Roddelflop?"
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Trading Barks or Taliaferro (Pop and Sandwiches quote)
Message 267 -
2004-04-18 at 14:56:23
DANIEL NEYER, 15-04-2004:
["This is quite a mystery! Let's sit down with some pop and sandwiches
and figure it out!"]
> I think this one is from the Trade Rat story in an early issue of
> WDC&S.
Correct!
As far as I know, the trade rat story [WDC 52] is the only published
1940s Barks story of which some original art has survived.
Original art of page 4 survived because a very eager Donald Duck strip
reader wrote to Dell Publishing in 1940s and asked for any original
Donald Duck strip. The point was that he had read newspaper strips,
which were drawn by Al Taliaferro. Later these two half pages were sold
and resold as Taliaferro's art, until someone noticed the real artist.
On the bottom half-page there is one correction. Barks has at first
drawn stitches on the live rat and corrected them on the toy rat (in
panel 4.6).
Source: Matti Eronen book "Surviving Comic Book Art" (page 18). Eronen
mentions page 5 instead of page 4. As the stitches information doesn't
match with panel 5.6, while the art of page 4 is shown as illustration
(but identified as page 5), Eronen must have meant page 4 as survivor.
BTW. Somewhere in The Carl Barks Library in Color, there a reproduction
of a b/w 1940s photo, which shows Barks with an original half page of
'The Old Castle's Secret' (OS 189).
--- Dani?l
"For goodness, sake! Who's that guy - the PIED PIPER?"
(Which Barks story?) :-)
["This is quite a mystery! Let's sit down with some pop and sandwiches
and figure it out!"]
> I think this one is from the Trade Rat story in an early issue of
> WDC&S.
Correct!
As far as I know, the trade rat story [WDC 52] is the only published
1940s Barks story of which some original art has survived.
Original art of page 4 survived because a very eager Donald Duck strip
reader wrote to Dell Publishing in 1940s and asked for any original
Donald Duck strip. The point was that he had read newspaper strips,
which were drawn by Al Taliaferro. Later these two half pages were sold
and resold as Taliaferro's art, until someone noticed the real artist.
On the bottom half-page there is one correction. Barks has at first
drawn stitches on the live rat and corrected them on the toy rat (in
panel 4.6).
Source: Matti Eronen book "Surviving Comic Book Art" (page 18). Eronen
mentions page 5 instead of page 4. As the stitches information doesn't
match with panel 5.6, while the art of page 4 is shown as illustration
(but identified as page 5), Eronen must have meant page 4 as survivor.
BTW. Somewhere in The Carl Barks Library in Color, there a reproduction
of a b/w 1940s photo, which shows Barks with an original half page of
'The Old Castle's Secret' (OS 189).
--- Dani?l
"For goodness, sake! Who's that guy - the PIED PIPER?"
(Which Barks story?) :-)
Olaf Solstrand
Quizzzzz
Message 268 -
2004-04-18 at 15:39:10
> "For goodness, sake! Who's that guy - the PIED PIPER?"
>
> (Which Barks story?) :-)
I guess the obvious guess would be "The Pied Piper of Duckburg" (which in
my ears qualifies as both a Barks story and a Rosa story), but... Nah,
that's WAY too obvious...
A wild guess (bring on the grapefruit): The Phantom of Notre Duck-story.
>
> (Which Barks story?) :-)
I guess the obvious guess would be "The Pied Piper of Duckburg" (which in
my ears qualifies as both a Barks story and a Rosa story), but... Nah,
that's WAY too obvious...
A wild guess (bring on the grapefruit): The Phantom of Notre Duck-story.
Francesco Spreafico
Pages of the Paperolimpiadi
Message 269 -
2004-04-18 at 16:38:37
Olaf Solstrand wrote:
> I still don't have a scanner, but I've put a nicely large (179kb) photo of
> this page online now.
>
> http://www.andebyonline.com/paperolimpiadi/the_missing_page_95.jpg
>
> I also put a brief translation of the words online:
>
> http://www.andebyonline.com/paperolimpiadi/the_missing_page_95.txt
Since I'd love to make a webpage on my site about this missing page, is
there someone who could make a good scan of it? It doesn't need to be
Finnish, any version will do
The page certainly is on German Lustiges Taschenbuch 130, since I own it
(but my scanner isn't working) and according to the inducks it should also
be in Norwegian Donald Pocket 89 and Danish Jumbobog 91.
And, Olaf, can I use your translation?
Thanks
Francesco
http://www.dimensionedelta.net/scarpa/
> I still don't have a scanner, but I've put a nicely large (179kb) photo of
> this page online now.
>
> http://www.andebyonline.com/paperolimpiadi/the_missing_page_95.jpg
>
> I also put a brief translation of the words online:
>
> http://www.andebyonline.com/paperolimpiadi/the_missing_page_95.txt
Since I'd love to make a webpage on my site about this missing page, is
there someone who could make a good scan of it? It doesn't need to be
Finnish, any version will do
The page certainly is on German Lustiges Taschenbuch 130, since I own it
(but my scanner isn't working) and according to the inducks it should also
be in Norwegian Donald Pocket 89 and Danish Jumbobog 91.
And, Olaf, can I use your translation?
Thanks
Francesco
http://www.dimensionedelta.net/scarpa/
Olaf Solstrand
Pages of the Paperolimpiadi
Message 270 -
2004-04-18 at 17:01:23
P? Sun, 18 Apr 2004 15:38:37 +0200, skrev Francesco Spreafico
<frspreaf at tin.it>:
> And, Olaf, can I use your translation?
Of course.
<frspreaf at tin.it>:
> And, Olaf, can I use your translation?
Of course.