Alipo wanted to know if Disney contributed to Walt Disney's comics and
Stories. The answer is "no". He did briefly write the Mickey Mouse
newspaper strip.
Gary informs us that Gladstone doesn't know the difference between Kay Wright
and Jack Manning artwork. Hmm. I of course, knew it wasn't by Evanier by
the style ((and the fact that 15 years ago, Mark gave me a list of all the
stories he wrote, as did Disney writer Don Christensen)).
Oh, the Disney Index on-line also has problems with Kay Wright and Pete
Alvardo. So, it's not just pros getting it wrong.
Author
Topic: 199608
(341 messages)
SRoweCanoe
Disney comics Digest V96 #183
Message 301 -
1996-08-28 at 04:39:05
Jacob Sparre Andersen
Danish Question
Message 302 -
1996-08-28 at 10:16:16
Dwight:
> Donald says: "Et lille skridt for en and,
> et kaempeskridt for en kommende koncernchef!"
> (Literally: "A small step for a duck, a giant
> step for a future managing director of the
> company!")
[...]
> Anyway, my question is -- would a Danish reader
> recognize the source of Anders/Donald's quotation?
Of cause! (well, maybe not the youngest kids)
Cheers,
Jacob
PS: And I wasn't even born then.
PPS: Danish translations plays a lot on "and" and "mand" ("duck" and "man").
--
Jacob Sparre Andersen http://www.nbi.dk/~sparre/
Center for Chaos and Turbulence Studies Phone: (+45) 39 65 53 51
The Niels Bohr Institute (+45) 35 32 53 05
--
Have you played with your LEGO today?
> Donald says: "Et lille skridt for en and,
> et kaempeskridt for en kommende koncernchef!"
> (Literally: "A small step for a duck, a giant
> step for a future managing director of the
> company!")
[...]
> Anyway, my question is -- would a Danish reader
> recognize the source of Anders/Donald's quotation?
Of cause! (well, maybe not the youngest kids)
Cheers,
Jacob
PS: And I wasn't even born then.
PPS: Danish translations plays a lot on "and" and "mand" ("duck" and "man").
--
Jacob Sparre Andersen http://www.nbi.dk/~sparre/
Center for Chaos and Turbulence Studies Phone: (+45) 39 65 53 51
The Niels Bohr Institute (+45) 35 32 53 05
--
Have you played with your LEGO today?
Nils Lid Hjort
Is Walt Disney alive?
Message 303 -
1996-08-28 at 14:08:09
Alipio d'Oliveira Coelho asks about Walt Disney:
2. Where was he buried? At LA? Near Disneyland?
I have heard once that he was "frozen down" at the
time of his death (or non-death, as the case may be),
like the three scientists in "2001: A Space Oddyssey" --
so that he (theoretically & futuristically and possible
sci-fi-ally speaking) might be woken up as soon as
(a) a cure is invented to treat his fatal (or non-fatal,
as the case might be...) disease,
(b) a procedure is invented to raise frozen people
from their frozen "lives".
Well, is any of this true?
Nils Lid Hjort
2. Where was he buried? At LA? Near Disneyland?
I have heard once that he was "frozen down" at the
time of his death (or non-death, as the case may be),
like the three scientists in "2001: A Space Oddyssey" --
so that he (theoretically & futuristically and possible
sci-fi-ally speaking) might be woken up as soon as
(a) a cure is invented to treat his fatal (or non-fatal,
as the case might be...) disease,
(b) a procedure is invented to raise frozen people
from their frozen "lives".
Well, is any of this true?
Nils Lid Hjort
Cord Wiljes
German Karp/Taliaferro Albums
Message 304 -
1996-08-28 at 14:14:08
JAN:
You asked, if the four books which have been published in the German
DD HC reprint series of stories by Bob Karp and Al Taliaferro contain
the strips from the first four years (07/02-38 to 31/12-41).
Actually the books only contain the Sunday pages, which were newly
colored (I believe) especially for this series. Each Vol. is ca. 64 p.
and costs 19.80 DM (around $ 14.00).
The contents are:
#1: 18. Dec. 39 - 20. Oct. 40
#2: 27 Oct 40 - 14. Sep. 41
#3: 16. Sep. 1934 - 16 Dec 1934 (the adaption of the Silly
Symphonie with DD's first appearance)
30. Aug. 36 - 21. Feb. 37
#4: 28. Feb. 37 - 5. Dec. 37 (with first appearance of HDL)
The series will be continued.
Best,
Cord
You asked, if the four books which have been published in the German
DD HC reprint series of stories by Bob Karp and Al Taliaferro contain
the strips from the first four years (07/02-38 to 31/12-41).
Actually the books only contain the Sunday pages, which were newly
colored (I believe) especially for this series. Each Vol. is ca. 64 p.
and costs 19.80 DM (around $ 14.00).
The contents are:
#1: 18. Dec. 39 - 20. Oct. 40
#2: 27 Oct 40 - 14. Sep. 41
#3: 16. Sep. 1934 - 16 Dec 1934 (the adaption of the Silly
Symphonie with DD's first appearance)
30. Aug. 36 - 21. Feb. 37
#4: 28. Feb. 37 - 5. Dec. 37 (with first appearance of HDL)
The series will be continued.
Best,
Cord
Per Starback
Is Walt Disney alive?
Message 305 -
1996-08-28 at 15:03:12
No, nothing of that is true. See
<URL:http://www.best.com/~snopes/disney/waltdisn/frozen.htm>
for more information.
<URL:http://www.best.com/~snopes/disney/waltdisn/frozen.htm>
for more information.
Trygve Vatle
Disney comics Digest V96 #182
Message 306 -
1996-08-28 at 18:16:48
JAN
The Norwegian publisher have published Karp/Taliaferro strips up until
1950. That makes it 13 books altogheter. And i must say that they are
a pride in every bookshelves.
Try contacting Hjemmets Serieforlag in Norway, I don't have the adress
right now, they should possible manage help you.
Trygve
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #184
******************************************
The Norwegian publisher have published Karp/Taliaferro strips up until
1950. That makes it 13 books altogheter. And i must say that they are
a pride in every bookshelves.
Try contacting Hjemmets Serieforlag in Norway, I don't have the adress
right now, they should possible manage help you.
Trygve
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #184
******************************************
Gary Leach
Disney comics Digest V96 #184
Message 307 -
1996-08-28 at 21:38:10
DAVE:
John thinks he might do a CROSSTALK about this credit business. I, by the
way, do all the CBG ads. And I'm working on animations for the web site!
SROWECANOE:
>Gary informs us that Gladstone doesn't know the difference between Kay Wrig=
ht
>and Jack Manning artwork.
Am I the Gary you're referring to? If so, you're crediting me with a remark
I never made.
ALL:
I, too, wonder about messages in languages other than english on this
mailing list. Due to my own limitations, messages in english (and american,
for you wags out there) are the only ones I'm able to read. Actually, I
might be able to dope one out that's in russian=8A
Gary
John thinks he might do a CROSSTALK about this credit business. I, by the
way, do all the CBG ads. And I'm working on animations for the web site!
SROWECANOE:
>Gary informs us that Gladstone doesn't know the difference between Kay Wrig=
ht
>and Jack Manning artwork.
Am I the Gary you're referring to? If so, you're crediting me with a remark
I never made.
ALL:
I, too, wonder about messages in languages other than english on this
mailing list. Due to my own limitations, messages in english (and american,
for you wags out there) are the only ones I'm able to read. Actually, I
might be able to dope one out that's in russian=8A
Gary
Mike Pohjola
Disney comics Digest V96 #184
Message 308 -
1996-08-28 at 23:01:23
ALL:
Sorry, if I offended somebody about my two cents worth about
Van Horns work. I simply can't understand it being liked, but that,
of course, is just my humble opinion and not meant to offend anyone.
But could somebody tell me what it is that you think is so great
about his work?
DON:
Yes, Magica looks very demonic now. Especially the panels where
she's casting a spell the shadows and the lightning make her really
frighting.
HYGODIAZ ja MAURO:
Morjes, kaverit. Täällä listalla me yleensä käytämme enemmän
englantia kuin muita kieliä (kuten espanjaa - tai suomea). Tämä ihan
siitä syystä, että emme voine olettaa, että kaikki muut osaavat toisten
äidinkieliä (ette varmaan tajua tästä enempää kuin minäkään teidän
jutuistanne) joten jos ei enkku suju, voitte varmaan perustaa oman
listanne jossa samat asiat käydään hispanjoliksi läpi.
HYGODIAZ and MAURO:
Hi, guys. In this list we prefer using English rather than other
languages (such as Spanish - or Finnish). This is because we can hardly
expect that everybody can speak the first language of everybody else (you
probably didn't understand any more from the above text than I did of your's)
and if your skill in English is too poor for you to understand the things
said here, you may always form a list of your own where you discuss things
in Spanish.
(I could do this in Swedish and German also, but I'll spare you this time...)
HYGODIAZ y MAURO:
Saludos, amigos. Inglis, si! Hispaniol, no!
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Sorry, if I offended somebody about my two cents worth about
Van Horns work. I simply can't understand it being liked, but that,
of course, is just my humble opinion and not meant to offend anyone.
But could somebody tell me what it is that you think is so great
about his work?
DON:
Yes, Magica looks very demonic now. Especially the panels where
she's casting a spell the shadows and the lightning make her really
frighting.
HYGODIAZ ja MAURO:
Morjes, kaverit. Täällä listalla me yleensä käytämme enemmän
englantia kuin muita kieliä (kuten espanjaa - tai suomea). Tämä ihan
siitä syystä, että emme voine olettaa, että kaikki muut osaavat toisten
äidinkieliä (ette varmaan tajua tästä enempää kuin minäkään teidän
jutuistanne) joten jos ei enkku suju, voitte varmaan perustaa oman
listanne jossa samat asiat käydään hispanjoliksi läpi.
HYGODIAZ and MAURO:
Hi, guys. In this list we prefer using English rather than other
languages (such as Spanish - or Finnish). This is because we can hardly
expect that everybody can speak the first language of everybody else (you
probably didn't understand any more from the above text than I did of your's)
and if your skill in English is too poor for you to understand the things
said here, you may always form a list of your own where you discuss things
in Spanish.
(I could do this in Swedish and German also, but I'll spare you this time...)
HYGODIAZ y MAURO:
Saludos, amigos. Inglis, si! Hispaniol, no!
--
Mike - The Finnish Trekkie
Gerard Van Der Wolf
Adding Publications
Message 309 -
1996-08-28 at 23:47:52
Hello Again,
>>> To Arthur
Sorry, stupid typo.
>>> To All
How about getting the enormous job of adding the publication to the
database? I know it's hell of a job to find out, but if we all can
contribute to it, it may be a very nice piece of work and information.
Looks to me that specialy the professionals (creators and publishers) might
benefit from this. And it is also interesting to see where and what has been
published from your favorit Disney artist.
Greetings,
Gerard van der Wolf - Hilversum, the Netherlands
E-Mail: (Email removed)
>>> To Arthur
Sorry, stupid typo.
>>> To All
How about getting the enormous job of adding the publication to the
database? I know it's hell of a job to find out, but if we all can
contribute to it, it may be a very nice piece of work and information.
Looks to me that specialy the professionals (creators and publishers) might
benefit from this. And it is also interesting to see where and what has been
published from your favorit Disney artist.
Greetings,
Gerard van der Wolf - Hilversum, the Netherlands
E-Mail: (Email removed)
Hugodiaz
Hola John!!!!
Message 310 -
1996-08-29 at 01:41:02
Muchas gracias por tu carta!, me alegra que quieras aprender espa+/-ol y
que seas miembro de la lista de Disney.
Mi nombre es Hugo Alberto Diaz, soy de Argentina, tu de donde eres?...
Sobre tus preguntas: me encantaria ayudarte en tus clases de espa+/-ol,
puedes preguntarme cualquier duda que tengas y con mucho gusto las
respondere.
Sabes?, los caracteres F2 o ++$5 y otras "manchas" que aparecieron en mi
carta, se hicieron en el servidor de Disney, porque no reconoce las
letras "+/-" ni los acentos.
Bueno, John, cuentame algo mas de ti: Donde vives???, Te gusta el idioma
espa+/-ol???, Tienes algun hobbie o deporte???
Yo vivo en Cordoba, in Argentina.
Espero tu respuesta, pronto.
Bye!
--HUGO.
PD: Creo que hay un problema con tu direccion, es...
(Email removed) ????
que seas miembro de la lista de Disney.
Mi nombre es Hugo Alberto Diaz, soy de Argentina, tu de donde eres?...
Sobre tus preguntas: me encantaria ayudarte en tus clases de espa+/-ol,
puedes preguntarme cualquier duda que tengas y con mucho gusto las
respondere.
Sabes?, los caracteres F2 o ++$5 y otras "manchas" que aparecieron en mi
carta, se hicieron en el servidor de Disney, porque no reconoce las
letras "+/-" ni los acentos.
Bueno, John, cuentame algo mas de ti: Donde vives???, Te gusta el idioma
espa+/-ol???, Tienes algun hobbie o deporte???
Yo vivo en Cordoba, in Argentina.
Espero tu respuesta, pronto.
Bye!
--HUGO.
PD: Creo que hay un problema con tu direccion, es...
(Email removed) ????
Hugodiaz
To All!!!!
Message 311 -
1996-08-29 at 02:04:48
Quiero decirles que me agrada hablar con ustedes, y agradecer a mi amigo
John que me escribio de USA, el es admirador de Disney, igual que yo.
Por eso quiero saber si es posible que te vuelvas a comunicar conmigo y
me des tu direccion nuevamente.
Chau, Disneymaniacos!!!
--HUGO.
John que me escribio de USA, el es admirador de Disney, igual que yo.
Por eso quiero saber si es posible que te vuelvas a comunicar conmigo y
me des tu direccion nuevamente.
Chau, Disneymaniacos!!!
--HUGO.
Gerstein
Plenty!
Message 312 -
1996-08-29 at 03:16:38
RoC:
"...the difference in approach between someone who learned his
craft as an animator, which Gottfredson never did (either), and the comic
book artist."
Actually, Gottfredson did start life at the Disney Studio as an
animator, but only did it for a few months. He animated the lion in 1930's
"Cannibal Capers", and later talked about that in _Mickey Mouse in Color_.
The Paul Murry stories are absolutely loaded with detail around
1956-57, and then become some of the simplest art in comics (not bad, just
lacking any real detail). What happened there?
ALIPIO:
As for his passing, Walt Disney had himself cremated. His remains
lie at Forest Lawn Cemetery in Glendale. He _wasn't_ frozen, just to
debunk the old myth (William Poundstone's book _Big Secrets_ explains the
origins of that myth in more detail).
RICH:
The Scarpa story where Pete's prosthetic leg is demolished in a
swordfight (without any attention being drawn to it by the characters) is
"The Mystery of Tapiocus VI". Great story.
Mickey's gloves come off a few times. A few early Sunday pages
show him removing them for baths and showers, and 1946's "The World of
Tomorrow" includes the same, if I remember right (in a scene with Mickey
being forcibly bathed by a machine). 1947's animated cartoon "Mickey's
Delayed Date" presents a similar situation, although 1948's cartoon "Mickey
and the Seal" has MM leave his gloves *on* while bathing!
I wrote a story in 1994 with Mickey making dinner for a rich
investor Uncle Mortimer was trying to impress, and I had MM take his gloves
off to knead some dough for a pie. I don't have the art back on the story,
so I have yet to find out whether the artist went along with that.
If it were up to me, I'd have MM sleep without his gloves, too.
JONATHAN:
"The Old Castle's Secret" has always been one of my all-time
favorite duck stories, too. Sure, the skeleton with the sword is pretty
scary, but Barks can always soften things with his inimitable humor. "Some
FEARLESS clansman these guys turn out to be!"
The scariest Disney comic story I've ever read is 1931's "Mickey
Mouse and the Gypsies." The queen of a mountain clan and her vicious
henchman have kidnapped Minnie to extort money from Uncle Mortimer, but
Uncle Mortimer's unreachable. When Mickey, Clarabelle, and Horace are
unable to get the money, the crook and her clan draw cards for the ace of
spades. The delighted henchman gets it, and prepares to rub Minnie out by
putting her between two millstones and letting the stones slowly squash
her. "Now I will show you how we grind the corn," he says.
I think what gets me the most is that the heroes haven't done a
thing to the villains up to this point, but the henchman is SO dirty that
he's clearly just waiting for an excuse to "off" Minnie whether she's done
anything to him or not. ANY excuse.
As much as this story scared the wits out of me as a kid, though,
it was one of my favorites anyway (it hasn't been reprinted in recent
times, but a collector friend of my family would loan me her old Big Little
Book version). I think I LIKED how Gottfredson so skillfully told a really
scary story... and the story does have a lot of gags (so many that you
almost think Gottfredson was trying to distract kids from the scary part).
What do you think of the Egmont Beagle Boys stories, like "An
Honest Mistake" in US 220? The old ones drawn by Daniel Branca are some of
my favorite Duck-universe stories.
WORST STORY I'VE EVER READ:
"Southern Hospitality," 1952. Uncle Scrooge has retired (!) to a
Southern plantation (!!) where he's gotten himself a hick accent (!!!) and
has lost his work staff because he fed them cotton rather than keeping the
plantation's soup kitchen open (well, okay, maybe that's in character, if a
little extreme).
HARRY:
I prefer Gyro Gearloose with hair, but there's at least one Barks
Gyro story (in a Four Color one-shot) in which Gyro does an extreme take
and his hair flies right off his head, stretching his hat-elastic. I don't
believe Barks was the writer -- wouldn't surprise me if Lockman WAS. But
the fact remains that Barks didn't alter that part when he drew it, so I
guess at the bottom line, Gyro is supposed to be wearing a toupee.
On the other hand, there's just as much reason to believe that one
panel was an aberration and Gyro's hair is "officially" real . . . I
remember some Barks stories where he swims without his hat, and the hair
stays on.
I'm about as comfortable with a hairless Gyro as with a hairy
Helper, just so you know where I stand. ;-)
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
"Have a chestnut, boys! ... OW!"
(Email removed)
"...the difference in approach between someone who learned his
craft as an animator, which Gottfredson never did (either), and the comic
book artist."
Actually, Gottfredson did start life at the Disney Studio as an
animator, but only did it for a few months. He animated the lion in 1930's
"Cannibal Capers", and later talked about that in _Mickey Mouse in Color_.
The Paul Murry stories are absolutely loaded with detail around
1956-57, and then become some of the simplest art in comics (not bad, just
lacking any real detail). What happened there?
ALIPIO:
As for his passing, Walt Disney had himself cremated. His remains
lie at Forest Lawn Cemetery in Glendale. He _wasn't_ frozen, just to
debunk the old myth (William Poundstone's book _Big Secrets_ explains the
origins of that myth in more detail).
RICH:
The Scarpa story where Pete's prosthetic leg is demolished in a
swordfight (without any attention being drawn to it by the characters) is
"The Mystery of Tapiocus VI". Great story.
Mickey's gloves come off a few times. A few early Sunday pages
show him removing them for baths and showers, and 1946's "The World of
Tomorrow" includes the same, if I remember right (in a scene with Mickey
being forcibly bathed by a machine). 1947's animated cartoon "Mickey's
Delayed Date" presents a similar situation, although 1948's cartoon "Mickey
and the Seal" has MM leave his gloves *on* while bathing!
I wrote a story in 1994 with Mickey making dinner for a rich
investor Uncle Mortimer was trying to impress, and I had MM take his gloves
off to knead some dough for a pie. I don't have the art back on the story,
so I have yet to find out whether the artist went along with that.
If it were up to me, I'd have MM sleep without his gloves, too.
JONATHAN:
"The Old Castle's Secret" has always been one of my all-time
favorite duck stories, too. Sure, the skeleton with the sword is pretty
scary, but Barks can always soften things with his inimitable humor. "Some
FEARLESS clansman these guys turn out to be!"
The scariest Disney comic story I've ever read is 1931's "Mickey
Mouse and the Gypsies." The queen of a mountain clan and her vicious
henchman have kidnapped Minnie to extort money from Uncle Mortimer, but
Uncle Mortimer's unreachable. When Mickey, Clarabelle, and Horace are
unable to get the money, the crook and her clan draw cards for the ace of
spades. The delighted henchman gets it, and prepares to rub Minnie out by
putting her between two millstones and letting the stones slowly squash
her. "Now I will show you how we grind the corn," he says.
I think what gets me the most is that the heroes haven't done a
thing to the villains up to this point, but the henchman is SO dirty that
he's clearly just waiting for an excuse to "off" Minnie whether she's done
anything to him or not. ANY excuse.
As much as this story scared the wits out of me as a kid, though,
it was one of my favorites anyway (it hasn't been reprinted in recent
times, but a collector friend of my family would loan me her old Big Little
Book version). I think I LIKED how Gottfredson so skillfully told a really
scary story... and the story does have a lot of gags (so many that you
almost think Gottfredson was trying to distract kids from the scary part).
What do you think of the Egmont Beagle Boys stories, like "An
Honest Mistake" in US 220? The old ones drawn by Daniel Branca are some of
my favorite Duck-universe stories.
WORST STORY I'VE EVER READ:
"Southern Hospitality," 1952. Uncle Scrooge has retired (!) to a
Southern plantation (!!) where he's gotten himself a hick accent (!!!) and
has lost his work staff because he fed them cotton rather than keeping the
plantation's soup kitchen open (well, okay, maybe that's in character, if a
little extreme).
HARRY:
I prefer Gyro Gearloose with hair, but there's at least one Barks
Gyro story (in a Four Color one-shot) in which Gyro does an extreme take
and his hair flies right off his head, stretching his hat-elastic. I don't
believe Barks was the writer -- wouldn't surprise me if Lockman WAS. But
the fact remains that Barks didn't alter that part when he drew it, so I
guess at the bottom line, Gyro is supposed to be wearing a toupee.
On the other hand, there's just as much reason to believe that one
panel was an aberration and Gyro's hair is "officially" real . . . I
remember some Barks stories where he swims without his hat, and the hair
stays on.
I'm about as comfortable with a hairless Gyro as with a hairy
Helper, just so you know where I stand. ;-)
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
"Have a chestnut, boys! ... OW!"
(Email removed)
SRoweCanoe
Walt Disney RIP
Message 313 -
1996-08-29 at 03:56:06
Walt Disney was burried in Forest Lawn cemetary in the Court of Freedom
area. It is in a private garden next to the Freedom Mausoleum. The garden
is to the far left of the mausoleum's front wall. It is the Disney family
plot.
Apparently guards at Forest Lawn are restricted and can not mention
Disney's remains being there. (So says the book: Big Secrets by William
Poundstone, 1983 Quill Books).
Steven Rowe
area. It is in a private garden next to the Freedom Mausoleum. The garden
is to the far left of the mausoleum's front wall. It is the Disney family
plot.
Apparently guards at Forest Lawn are restricted and can not mention
Disney's remains being there. (So says the book: Big Secrets by William
Poundstone, 1983 Quill Books).
Steven Rowe
Dave Rawson
Deserved attribution
Message 314 -
1996-08-29 at 04:44:51
Rich Morrissey:
RM> do we really need to have credits for letterers, any more than prose
RM> books have credits for typesetters?
A comic letterer contributes much more to the storytelling of a comic.
They deserve attribution. It certainly takes up a very tiny space in
return for everything they bring to the process.
--
riverrun past Eve's and Adam's from swerve of shore to bend of bay
http://users.aol.com/dcrawson/home.htm
RM> do we really need to have credits for letterers, any more than prose
RM> books have credits for typesetters?
A comic letterer contributes much more to the storytelling of a comic.
They deserve attribution. It certainly takes up a very tiny space in
return for everything they bring to the process.
--
riverrun past Eve's and Adam's from swerve of shore to bend of bay
http://users.aol.com/dcrawson/home.htm
Kathy Fitzpatrick
Chip 'n' Dale's Rescue Rangers Comics
Message 315 -
1996-08-29 at 04:46:02
>Would anyone happen to know how many comics were published before the comic
>quit? (If new ones are still being made, please tell me).
Rescue Ranger stories still appear in Disney Adventures but I do not think
there is a separate Rescue Ranger comic still coming out. Occasionally I
think there are mini series.
-Kathy
>quit? (If new ones are still being made, please tell me).
Rescue Ranger stories still appear in Disney Adventures but I do not think
there is a separate Rescue Ranger comic still coming out. Occasionally I
think there are mini series.
-Kathy