MARKOFF:
Why don't I do 2-part stories at 12 pages per part, instead of 3 8-page
chapters? I agree that 2-parters of the same length would be better... these
8-page chapters are difficult to get moving before it's time to start ending
them. But I am not given a choice in these matters. It's 3-parts at 8 pages
each, or I don't get to do long stories, period. They don't even let anyone
else do more than 2-parters at 7 pages each, as a matter of policy. It has
something to do with how the verious Egmont publishers are set up to handle
different sorts of stories in their weeklies -- that's not my department, I
just do what they tell me to do.
And why don't I send in xeroxes of the art? How could anyone not be able to
tell the difference between a xerox and original art??? (I wish!!!)
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #165
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Author
Topic: 199608
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Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V96 #164
Message 61 -
1996-08-06 at 10:13:00
Frank Stajano
Latin stories
Message 62 -
1996-08-06 at 11:35:18
> > Harald mentioned comic books in Latin; they were published in
> > 1984 by European Language Institute in Recanati, Italy. The titles are
> > "Michael Musculus et 'Lapis Sapientiae'" ("MM and the Philosophers Stone")
> > and "Donaldus Anas atque nox Saraceni" ("DD and the Night of the Saracen").
>
> The latter is my Marco Rota. I have no idea which story the first is,
> though it's probably Italian, too (right, Nils?)
The ELI did about 10 of these. They were published in hardbound comic
books, like the French Aste'rix. It's now practically impossible to
find them all. They were mostly translations of stories that had been
published in the little-known mini-series "Topolino piu`" (same
format, hardbound etc). The Latin translations were very carefully
done. The booklets came with a separate "cheat sheet" containing the
most difficult bits (or unusual words, not likely to be found in
dictionaries) and their translations.
Michael Musculus et lapis sapientiae (which I once gave to a friend,
and don't have) was drawn by Massimo De Vita. Don't know who the
author of the story was.
Donaldus Anas atque nox Saraceni (beautiful) is Rota/Rota.
Scrugulus in re vere mirabili (not bad) was drawn by Cavazzano in his
techno period (techno? see
http://www.cam-orl.co.uk/~fms/disney/cavazzano). I'm not sure who
wrote the script: perhaps Rudy Salvagnini?
Scrugulus et radius contra procellam was drawn by Guido Scala.
As I said there were perhaps 10 in all. I don't have them all and, as
I'm writing from memory, I can't remember what the others were. I
should be able to find at least one of them at home, and if so I'll
post a list of all the titles.
Frank (Filologo Disneyano) http://www.cam-orl.co.uk/~fms
> > 1984 by European Language Institute in Recanati, Italy. The titles are
> > "Michael Musculus et 'Lapis Sapientiae'" ("MM and the Philosophers Stone")
> > and "Donaldus Anas atque nox Saraceni" ("DD and the Night of the Saracen").
>
> The latter is my Marco Rota. I have no idea which story the first is,
> though it's probably Italian, too (right, Nils?)
The ELI did about 10 of these. They were published in hardbound comic
books, like the French Aste'rix. It's now practically impossible to
find them all. They were mostly translations of stories that had been
published in the little-known mini-series "Topolino piu`" (same
format, hardbound etc). The Latin translations were very carefully
done. The booklets came with a separate "cheat sheet" containing the
most difficult bits (or unusual words, not likely to be found in
dictionaries) and their translations.
Michael Musculus et lapis sapientiae (which I once gave to a friend,
and don't have) was drawn by Massimo De Vita. Don't know who the
author of the story was.
Donaldus Anas atque nox Saraceni (beautiful) is Rota/Rota.
Scrugulus in re vere mirabili (not bad) was drawn by Cavazzano in his
techno period (techno? see
http://www.cam-orl.co.uk/~fms/disney/cavazzano). I'm not sure who
wrote the script: perhaps Rudy Salvagnini?
Scrugulus et radius contra procellam was drawn by Guido Scala.
As I said there were perhaps 10 in all. I don't have them all and, as
I'm writing from memory, I can't remember what the others were. I
should be able to find at least one of them at home, and if so I'll
post a list of all the titles.
Frank (Filologo Disneyano) http://www.cam-orl.co.uk/~fms
Danny Coenen
Mail for Joachim and stuff...
Message 63 -
1996-08-06 at 15:18:46
JOACHIM:
Now, that`s great that there`s two of us on this
list now. Two times five is 10, another proof for
the natural superiority of the decimal system :-)
Anyways, I concidered writing an article for the DD
(Der Donaldist) about this list and other interesting
stuff about Stella Anatium (the planet that the Ducks
live on according to most Donaldists), but I decided=20
not to. We`d probably get too many discussions that=20
would seem really weird or even sick for the others
on here. And I am still a little bit unhappy about the=20
fact that nobody, except a hand full of members knew=20
about the meeting with Carl Barks. Anyway, I haven`t=20
been very active in the D.O.N.A.L.D. yet, actually
I haven`t paid for this year`s membership until today,
since I was gone so long. I didn`t get any Mif=FCMi
(News for Members, NefoMe) since January, and I didn`t
get DD 96 yet. Do you know if it is out already?
What translations are concerned: I did lots of them
for Don already, and if he wants me to, I`ll try my=20
hardest to translate the stuff out of Der Donaldist
that concerns him. (Tell me, if you want me to, Don.)
Anyway, I am very happy about the fact that other artists
seem to be more accepted. Of course Carl Barks is the only
"real" reporter of what really happened in Duckburgh, but
as long as other artists do a good job and don`t mess=20
things up too much, I tolerate them, and I actually like=20
many of the D-coded stories by other artists. I really don`t
care too much for Italian comics any more, altough I have 118
Lustige Taschenb=FCcher, that I mainly bought years ago. I=20
think they change the Duck`s personalities too much, they
are not as mature and well-drawn. But that is just my=20
opinion, I am still jealous of those people who actually can
draw these Ducks accurately.
It would be great to send me a xerox of that Tempo onepager.
I`d appreciate that very much.=20
DON:
Last year in Cologne you signed my German Don Rosa albums
that I had at the time (Vol. 1 through 5). Now, the last
part of the LoS (Vol. 6) is still missing your signature.
Would you be so kind and sign it for me if I mailed it to
you, or will I have to wait until you come to a place
nearby in Germany again?=20
How much fan mail do you get per day?
Have you ever given any thoughts about what the last story
you are going to do will be? I hope that`ll be far in the
future, but I was just wondering...
Now, that Joachim told me that you are getting the Der=20
Donaldist, how did you like the Duckburgh map in #95?
I thought it was extremely well done.
ALL:
Here they are, the official goals of the D.O.N.A.L.D.,=20
but first of all I need to explain some things. Almost
always we take the translations by Dr. Erika Fuchs as
accurate. When Dr. Fuchs started to translate comics,=20
they were known to be a bad influence on children, and
more or less all the bad things in the world were the
comics fault... So she used very great language to=20
give the comic books a better image. Especially=20
Donald often recites classics like Goethe and Schiller.
and the language is full of alliterations and many
other intersting constructions, that give the stories
a slightly different sound from everyday language. But
some mottos and words invented by Dr. Fuchs are a part
of the standard German language today, although most
people don`t know that it was the Disney translations
that introduced these things. We use her language in
our Donaldistic life wherever we can, but it is=20
impossible to translate the way it was written, so
it loses something.
So, I guess I`ll wait for some feedback before I=20
translate. So if you care, tell me!
Danny Coenen
-"Donaldistic wishes to you all!"
Danny Coenen =09
Kopernikusstr. 18 Tel. :=20
(049)2461/56129 =20
D-52428 Juelich =20
Germany EU e-mail :=20
(Email removed) =09
Now, that`s great that there`s two of us on this
list now. Two times five is 10, another proof for
the natural superiority of the decimal system :-)
Anyways, I concidered writing an article for the DD
(Der Donaldist) about this list and other interesting
stuff about Stella Anatium (the planet that the Ducks
live on according to most Donaldists), but I decided=20
not to. We`d probably get too many discussions that=20
would seem really weird or even sick for the others
on here. And I am still a little bit unhappy about the=20
fact that nobody, except a hand full of members knew=20
about the meeting with Carl Barks. Anyway, I haven`t=20
been very active in the D.O.N.A.L.D. yet, actually
I haven`t paid for this year`s membership until today,
since I was gone so long. I didn`t get any Mif=FCMi
(News for Members, NefoMe) since January, and I didn`t
get DD 96 yet. Do you know if it is out already?
What translations are concerned: I did lots of them
for Don already, and if he wants me to, I`ll try my=20
hardest to translate the stuff out of Der Donaldist
that concerns him. (Tell me, if you want me to, Don.)
Anyway, I am very happy about the fact that other artists
seem to be more accepted. Of course Carl Barks is the only
"real" reporter of what really happened in Duckburgh, but
as long as other artists do a good job and don`t mess=20
things up too much, I tolerate them, and I actually like=20
many of the D-coded stories by other artists. I really don`t
care too much for Italian comics any more, altough I have 118
Lustige Taschenb=FCcher, that I mainly bought years ago. I=20
think they change the Duck`s personalities too much, they
are not as mature and well-drawn. But that is just my=20
opinion, I am still jealous of those people who actually can
draw these Ducks accurately.
It would be great to send me a xerox of that Tempo onepager.
I`d appreciate that very much.=20
DON:
Last year in Cologne you signed my German Don Rosa albums
that I had at the time (Vol. 1 through 5). Now, the last
part of the LoS (Vol. 6) is still missing your signature.
Would you be so kind and sign it for me if I mailed it to
you, or will I have to wait until you come to a place
nearby in Germany again?=20
How much fan mail do you get per day?
Have you ever given any thoughts about what the last story
you are going to do will be? I hope that`ll be far in the
future, but I was just wondering...
Now, that Joachim told me that you are getting the Der=20
Donaldist, how did you like the Duckburgh map in #95?
I thought it was extremely well done.
ALL:
Here they are, the official goals of the D.O.N.A.L.D.,=20
but first of all I need to explain some things. Almost
always we take the translations by Dr. Erika Fuchs as
accurate. When Dr. Fuchs started to translate comics,=20
they were known to be a bad influence on children, and
more or less all the bad things in the world were the
comics fault... So she used very great language to=20
give the comic books a better image. Especially=20
Donald often recites classics like Goethe and Schiller.
and the language is full of alliterations and many
other intersting constructions, that give the stories
a slightly different sound from everyday language. But
some mottos and words invented by Dr. Fuchs are a part
of the standard German language today, although most
people don`t know that it was the Disney translations
that introduced these things. We use her language in
our Donaldistic life wherever we can, but it is=20
impossible to translate the way it was written, so
it loses something.
So, I guess I`ll wait for some feedback before I=20
translate. So if you care, tell me!
Danny Coenen
-"Donaldistic wishes to you all!"
Danny Coenen =09
Kopernikusstr. 18 Tel. :=20
(049)2461/56129 =20
D-52428 Juelich =20
Germany EU e-mail :=20
(Email removed) =09
Markoff
Rosa stories
Message 64 -
1996-08-06 at 17:08:40
DON:
What is Egmont going to do next? Have it so chapters can only be one page
apiece (or, to , boot, one PANEL apiece?)? And I thought that NEWSPAPER
comics had to put up with limits! How can you stand working for these cranks?
What is Egmont going to do next? Have it so chapters can only be one page
apiece (or, to , boot, one PANEL apiece?)? And I thought that NEWSPAPER
comics had to put up with limits! How can you stand working for these cranks?
Markoff
WDC&S 607
Message 65 -
1996-08-07 at 00:25:51
>* WDC&S #607 "Now monthly!"
> "Number 401" by WVH (Donald 10-pager)
> "Stranded in Time" by Don Rosa (part 1/3)
> "The Phantom Blot" by Floyd Gottfredson (final installment)
> "Maple Sugar Time" Daan Jippes redraws Barks' JW story
> Cover is a wrap-around "Cave of Ali Babe" painting by Carl Barks
It looks like Gladstone's WDC&S (which should be a "showcase" title) is
falling back into the old rut of being "just another Duck book but with a
little bit of MM." Sigh...
> "Number 401" by WVH (Donald 10-pager)
> "Stranded in Time" by Don Rosa (part 1/3)
> "The Phantom Blot" by Floyd Gottfredson (final installment)
> "Maple Sugar Time" Daan Jippes redraws Barks' JW story
> Cover is a wrap-around "Cave of Ali Babe" painting by Carl Barks
It looks like Gladstone's WDC&S (which should be a "showcase" title) is
falling back into the old rut of being "just another Duck book but with a
little bit of MM." Sigh...
Markoff
Treasure Chest
Message 66 -
1996-08-07 at 00:55:57
Recently, Per Starback put on his website info about the 1980's German UNCLE
SCROOGE'S TREASURE CHEST stories. It mentions that they have been printed in
the UK. (Actually, it just says "in English," but I found a letter in UNCLE
SCROOGE 277 mentioning British issues published by London Editions that fit
the description, even though that letter doesn't say "Treasure Chest.".)
I've been trying to trade a Gladstone comic with list member Frank Stajano,
who lives in UK, and while discussing exchange, he said he's never found a
British Disney comic with those in it, just short Egmont stories. Perhaps
those issues are no longer published in the UK?
DAVID GERSTEIN:
I think you mentioned the "Treasure Chest"'s in a letter in US 255. Can you
fill us in?
--Jonathan Markoff
SCROOGE'S TREASURE CHEST stories. It mentions that they have been printed in
the UK. (Actually, it just says "in English," but I found a letter in UNCLE
SCROOGE 277 mentioning British issues published by London Editions that fit
the description, even though that letter doesn't say "Treasure Chest.".)
I've been trying to trade a Gladstone comic with list member Frank Stajano,
who lives in UK, and while discussing exchange, he said he's never found a
British Disney comic with those in it, just short Egmont stories. Perhaps
those issues are no longer published in the UK?
DAVID GERSTEIN:
I think you mentioned the "Treasure Chest"'s in a letter in US 255. Can you
fill us in?
--Jonathan Markoff
RMorris306
Recent Disney Digests
Message 67 -
1996-08-07 at 02:30:16
Hi, Group!
Still busy with the puppies, so this will have to be a brief posting. I
suspect the disdain of many American children and teenagers toward the Disney
comics long predates WIZARD...dating back at least to the 1950's, when
cartoons and their characters, hitherto (as in much of Europe to this day)
additions to movie programs, were relegated to the children's hours on TV.
Various comics publishers have successfully marketed their material as
suitable for those who've "outgrown" other comics, notably EC in the '50's
and Marvel in the '60's. (This approach rarely worked for me, and to this
day, though I appreciate the abilities of Stan Lee and espeically Jack Kirby,
I never warmed to Marvel as so many of my contemporaries did. Aside from the
Disney characters, my favorite comic book characters remain those Golden Age
legends, Superman and Batman...though the flip side is that the "Eighties"
approaches to those characters of writers like the highly overrated John
Byrne, who made names working on very different Marvel characters, don't do
much for me.)
Speaking of WIZARD, Pat O'Neill's approach to the Grandey "Duck Party"
vote reminds me of Kenneth Starr's in the Whitewater affair. (Do I need to
explain the reference to the European members, or is our politics, as I've
heard, covered in great detail over there as yours isn't? I confess I haven't
the slightest idea even who the leaders of Denmark are) What may be a decent
case is ruined by a weak personal agenda, and reliance on very dubious
sources...
Coincidentally, I was cleaning my house today and found my earliest
comic books (my mother really DIDN'T throw them away!) including my very
first, WALT DISNEY'S COMICS & STORIES #222. I still remembered the stories
after so many years, especially Donald's ("The Master Mover," as Gladstone
called it on reprinting) and Mickey's ("The Monster of Sawtooth Mountain").
Of course, I know now that Fallberg and Murry did the Mouse story (Gladstone
reprinted that one, too), and anyone who doesn't know Barks wouldn't be on
this Digest, but I still wonder who did Scamp, and Chip 'n' Dale. Would
anyone here know? (Also some other nice stuff like a late THREE
MOUSEKETEERS--no relation to Annette and Darlene!--by DC's late, great
Sheldon Mayer.)
Even though Marvel's supposedly giving up its share of the Disney
rights, it seems to have the contract for the next couple of years. Despite
its origins as a cartoon (well, Dodie Smith's novel before that), 101
DALMATIANS may be the first Marvel adaptation of a LIVE Disney movie in I
don't know how long (though they've had a few individual Disney contracts
like ZORRO over the last couple of decades), and the first NEW live Disney
movie adapted to comic books (though Gladstone ran some old ones like THE
ABSENT-MINDED PROFESSOR) since HERBIE GOES TO MONTE CARLO. Hope someone will
do more...why can't Gladstone do comic books about Aladdin or the Gargoyles
if Marvel won't?
Rich Morrissey
Still busy with the puppies, so this will have to be a brief posting. I
suspect the disdain of many American children and teenagers toward the Disney
comics long predates WIZARD...dating back at least to the 1950's, when
cartoons and their characters, hitherto (as in much of Europe to this day)
additions to movie programs, were relegated to the children's hours on TV.
Various comics publishers have successfully marketed their material as
suitable for those who've "outgrown" other comics, notably EC in the '50's
and Marvel in the '60's. (This approach rarely worked for me, and to this
day, though I appreciate the abilities of Stan Lee and espeically Jack Kirby,
I never warmed to Marvel as so many of my contemporaries did. Aside from the
Disney characters, my favorite comic book characters remain those Golden Age
legends, Superman and Batman...though the flip side is that the "Eighties"
approaches to those characters of writers like the highly overrated John
Byrne, who made names working on very different Marvel characters, don't do
much for me.)
Speaking of WIZARD, Pat O'Neill's approach to the Grandey "Duck Party"
vote reminds me of Kenneth Starr's in the Whitewater affair. (Do I need to
explain the reference to the European members, or is our politics, as I've
heard, covered in great detail over there as yours isn't? I confess I haven't
the slightest idea even who the leaders of Denmark are) What may be a decent
case is ruined by a weak personal agenda, and reliance on very dubious
sources...
Coincidentally, I was cleaning my house today and found my earliest
comic books (my mother really DIDN'T throw them away!) including my very
first, WALT DISNEY'S COMICS & STORIES #222. I still remembered the stories
after so many years, especially Donald's ("The Master Mover," as Gladstone
called it on reprinting) and Mickey's ("The Monster of Sawtooth Mountain").
Of course, I know now that Fallberg and Murry did the Mouse story (Gladstone
reprinted that one, too), and anyone who doesn't know Barks wouldn't be on
this Digest, but I still wonder who did Scamp, and Chip 'n' Dale. Would
anyone here know? (Also some other nice stuff like a late THREE
MOUSEKETEERS--no relation to Annette and Darlene!--by DC's late, great
Sheldon Mayer.)
Even though Marvel's supposedly giving up its share of the Disney
rights, it seems to have the contract for the next couple of years. Despite
its origins as a cartoon (well, Dodie Smith's novel before that), 101
DALMATIANS may be the first Marvel adaptation of a LIVE Disney movie in I
don't know how long (though they've had a few individual Disney contracts
like ZORRO over the last couple of decades), and the first NEW live Disney
movie adapted to comic books (though Gladstone ran some old ones like THE
ABSENT-MINDED PROFESSOR) since HERBIE GOES TO MONTE CARLO. Hope someone will
do more...why can't Gladstone do comic books about Aladdin or the Gargoyles
if Marvel won't?
Rich Morrissey
Frank Stajano
Latin comics
Message 68 -
1996-08-07 at 13:14:35
DISNEY LINGUA LATINA
Of the following, I only have I, III and V, but I have seen II and the
cover of IV. Inside volume V the following text can be found. Stuff in
parentheses (written by / drawn by) has of course been added by yours
truly.
-------
Collectio "DISNEY LINGUA LATINA" complectitur X volumina, quorum iam
edita sunt:
I. DONALDUS ANAS ATQUE NOX SARACENI (Marco Rota / Marco Rota)
II. MICHAEL MUSCULUS ET LAPIS SAPIENTIAE (? / Massimo De Vita)
III. DONALDUS ANAS ET ACTIONES FIDUCIAE (? / ?)
IV. SCRUGULUS ET RADIUS CONTRA PROCELLAM (? / Guido Scala)
V. SCRUGULUS IN RE VERE MIRABILI (Rudy Salvagnini / Giorgio
Cavazzano)
-------
I don't know if they ever managed to print the remaining 5 volumes,
though I know there were more than this, because I'm sure that for
example Scarpa's "Topolino e la regina d'Africa" (Mickey Mouse and the
African queen), again from "Topolino Piu`", was translated into Latin.
The Topolino Piu` series had at least 10 books:
Zio Paperone in un caso davvero imprevedibile (= V)
Topolino e il circo aereo
Zio Paperone e il raggio anticiclone (= IV)
Topolino e la Regina d'Africa
Papermosca e i Lanzichenotti
Topolino e il pizzaiolo scomparso
Paperino e l'operazione F (= III)
Topolino e la "pietra di saggezza" (= II)
Paperino e la notte del saraceno (= I)
Paperino e il pianeta Esalion
The "Nox Saraceni" story was (is) really atmospheric and
fascinating. Rota is at his best, and the large format allows
him to craft his art even more finely than usual.
The Scarpa story, likewise, is a little gem and is also the first
story where Zenobia (an African queen that Goofy falls in love with,
and that Scarpa will use again a few more times) makes her appearance.
I must say that I always felt a bit cheated when special stories
appeared in one-off publications instead of the mainstream ones like
the weekly Topolino: given as an axiom that you can't buy EVERYTHING
that comes out, by the time you realize that there was something
special in that odd edition, it's already out of print; and because it
wasn't a mainstream one, it's not a comic that children will have
bought as a matter of course, so it will have had a comparatively low
circulation and will be hard to find in second hand comics shops. And,
given all that, I feel particularly cheated when the story is part of
an internal continuity, like the one from Scarpa! So now, although
I've been faithfully buying all the issues (say), I still have stories
that refer to something I can't read! (Don't worry, I *do* have
"Topolino e la regina d'Africa", as it happens -- it's just that for
several years I was p***ed of by not being able to read it!)
--
Frank (filologo disneyano) http://www.cam-orl.co.uk/~fms
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #166
******************************************
Of the following, I only have I, III and V, but I have seen II and the
cover of IV. Inside volume V the following text can be found. Stuff in
parentheses (written by / drawn by) has of course been added by yours
truly.
-------
Collectio "DISNEY LINGUA LATINA" complectitur X volumina, quorum iam
edita sunt:
I. DONALDUS ANAS ATQUE NOX SARACENI (Marco Rota / Marco Rota)
II. MICHAEL MUSCULUS ET LAPIS SAPIENTIAE (? / Massimo De Vita)
III. DONALDUS ANAS ET ACTIONES FIDUCIAE (? / ?)
IV. SCRUGULUS ET RADIUS CONTRA PROCELLAM (? / Guido Scala)
V. SCRUGULUS IN RE VERE MIRABILI (Rudy Salvagnini / Giorgio
Cavazzano)
-------
I don't know if they ever managed to print the remaining 5 volumes,
though I know there were more than this, because I'm sure that for
example Scarpa's "Topolino e la regina d'Africa" (Mickey Mouse and the
African queen), again from "Topolino Piu`", was translated into Latin.
The Topolino Piu` series had at least 10 books:
Zio Paperone in un caso davvero imprevedibile (= V)
Topolino e il circo aereo
Zio Paperone e il raggio anticiclone (= IV)
Topolino e la Regina d'Africa
Papermosca e i Lanzichenotti
Topolino e il pizzaiolo scomparso
Paperino e l'operazione F (= III)
Topolino e la "pietra di saggezza" (= II)
Paperino e la notte del saraceno (= I)
Paperino e il pianeta Esalion
The "Nox Saraceni" story was (is) really atmospheric and
fascinating. Rota is at his best, and the large format allows
him to craft his art even more finely than usual.
The Scarpa story, likewise, is a little gem and is also the first
story where Zenobia (an African queen that Goofy falls in love with,
and that Scarpa will use again a few more times) makes her appearance.
I must say that I always felt a bit cheated when special stories
appeared in one-off publications instead of the mainstream ones like
the weekly Topolino: given as an axiom that you can't buy EVERYTHING
that comes out, by the time you realize that there was something
special in that odd edition, it's already out of print; and because it
wasn't a mainstream one, it's not a comic that children will have
bought as a matter of course, so it will have had a comparatively low
circulation and will be hard to find in second hand comics shops. And,
given all that, I feel particularly cheated when the story is part of
an internal continuity, like the one from Scarpa! So now, although
I've been faithfully buying all the issues (say), I still have stories
that refer to something I can't read! (Don't worry, I *do* have
"Topolino e la regina d'Africa", as it happens -- it's just that for
several years I was p***ed of by not being able to read it!)
--
Frank (filologo disneyano) http://www.cam-orl.co.uk/~fms
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #166
******************************************
Joachim Butz
Digest #164 - The Incredible Shrinking Tightwad
Message 69 -
1996-08-07 at 15:05:03
The Incredible Shrinking Tightwad in Danish:
If it is published as the - longer - one part version, perhaps someone could
send me a copy of this issue?
Or
DON:
is The Incredible Shrinking Tightwad scheduled by Gladstone in the near future?
If it is published as the - longer - one part version, perhaps someone could
send me a copy of this issue?
Or
DON:
is The Incredible Shrinking Tightwad scheduled by Gladstone in the near future?
Harry Fluks
WDC 222
Message 70 -
1996-08-07 at 19:27:37
RICH:
> WALT DISNEY'S COMICS & STORIES #222.
> [...] I still wonder who did Scamp, and Chip 'n' Dale.
Scamp was drawn by Al Hubbard. The C'n'D story was by Jack
Bradbury. I don't know who wrote either of these stories.
Hubbard did almost all the Scamp stories in the Western comics,
at least in the Dell period. And a lot of C'n'D stories of that time
were by Bradbury. To me, their versions of the characters are *the*
versions.
--Harry.
(And the leader of Holland is... uhm... Copenhagen? 8-)
> WALT DISNEY'S COMICS & STORIES #222.
> [...] I still wonder who did Scamp, and Chip 'n' Dale.
Scamp was drawn by Al Hubbard. The C'n'D story was by Jack
Bradbury. I don't know who wrote either of these stories.
Hubbard did almost all the Scamp stories in the Western comics,
at least in the Dell period. And a lot of C'n'D stories of that time
were by Bradbury. To me, their versions of the characters are *the*
versions.
--Harry.
(And the leader of Holland is... uhm... Copenhagen? 8-)
Harry Fluks
Disco Ducks
Message 71 -
1996-08-07 at 19:49:30
I wrote:
> By the way, this is one of the stories by Milton/Jippes
> that Gladstone didn't print in their first run (though the
> story was available then: it's from 1979).
Dwight:
> What's more, as I found out when I translated it for Gladstone
> a while back, an English script already existed for it. Freddy
> Milton even sent me a copy of that English script
This is probably the "original" script, the one that was sent by mail
several times from Daan Jippes (in Holland) to Freddy Milton (in
Denmark) and vice versa. Daan doesn't know Danish, and Freddy
not enough Dutch, so English was the language they used.
> I have no idea why Gladstone #I didn't print the story. Perhaps
> they intended to, but Disney yanked the license before they
> could get around to it?
That seems improbable, since they "ran out" of Jippes/Milton
stories long before Gladstone's 1st run ended. They even asked
Jippes to make new stories, because they were so successful.
And there are even two more 10-pagers that have not been used
by Gladstone. But at least one of them should be reprinted soon.
--Harry.
(Not a member of the winning Dutch Volleyball team...)
> By the way, this is one of the stories by Milton/Jippes
> that Gladstone didn't print in their first run (though the
> story was available then: it's from 1979).
Dwight:
> What's more, as I found out when I translated it for Gladstone
> a while back, an English script already existed for it. Freddy
> Milton even sent me a copy of that English script
This is probably the "original" script, the one that was sent by mail
several times from Daan Jippes (in Holland) to Freddy Milton (in
Denmark) and vice versa. Daan doesn't know Danish, and Freddy
not enough Dutch, so English was the language they used.
> I have no idea why Gladstone #I didn't print the story. Perhaps
> they intended to, but Disney yanked the license before they
> could get around to it?
That seems improbable, since they "ran out" of Jippes/Milton
stories long before Gladstone's 1st run ended. They even asked
Jippes to make new stories, because they were so successful.
And there are even two more 10-pagers that have not been used
by Gladstone. But at least one of them should be reprinted soon.
--Harry.
(Not a member of the winning Dutch Volleyball team...)
Dave Rawson
Cavazzano, et al
Message 72 -
1996-08-07 at 23:11:14
Many, many thanks to Frank for the delightful resource on Cavazzano and
his brother artists at:
http://www.cam-orl.co.uk/~fms/disney/cavazzano
And to all you others, as well, who fill this mailing list with such
useful and entertaining information and insights.
--
http://users.aol.com./dcrawson/home.htm
his brother artists at:
http://www.cam-orl.co.uk/~fms/disney/cavazzano
And to all you others, as well, who fill this mailing list with such
useful and entertaining information and insights.
--
http://users.aol.com./dcrawson/home.htm
Gerstein
The Aracuan Bird... again
Message 73 -
1996-08-07 at 23:29:22
MIKE:
The Aracuan Bird ("Papadiya") is indeed the character I saw in the
Brazilian stories I referred to. The problem in my analysis came when I
mistakenly referred to him as a red bird -- he's actually a pink bird in
the film, just with a red mop of hair/feathers on top of his head.
I believe all Papadiya wears is a shirt in the film (as opposed to
Panchito, who wears a hat too).
Some time ago someone mentioned a Dick Moores story in which Donald
was a can-opener salesman and the Aracuan Bird appeared with him. I have
never seen this particular story, but it's the only time I've ever heard of
the Aracuan appearing in an American Duck story.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
(Email removed)
The Aracuan Bird ("Papadiya") is indeed the character I saw in the
Brazilian stories I referred to. The problem in my analysis came when I
mistakenly referred to him as a red bird -- he's actually a pink bird in
the film, just with a red mop of hair/feathers on top of his head.
I believe all Papadiya wears is a shirt in the film (as opposed to
Panchito, who wears a hat too).
Some time ago someone mentioned a Dick Moores story in which Donald
was a can-opener salesman and the Aracuan Bird appeared with him. I have
never seen this particular story, but it's the only time I've ever heard of
the Aracuan appearing in an American Duck story.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
(Email removed)
Michael Naiman
Universal Solvent
Message 74 -
1996-08-07 at 23:32:36
Chapter #2 of Universal Solvent is out this week in the US; it's pretty
amazing how this story moves right along even though most of the "action"
(so far) takes place on the platform.
amazing how this story moves right along even though most of the "action"
(so far) takes place on the platform.
Gerstein
Micro-Ducks sequel(s)
Message 75 -
1996-08-07 at 23:34:21
RICH:
Yes... Gladstone decided not to print a Micro-Ducks sequel that
didn't include HDL, back around 1989. The fact that the current sequel
("Return of the Micro-Ducks," WDG 7) includes them suggests that there may
be more than one Egmont Micro-Ducks story.
Which brings me to the fact that I think I may have seen another
one, published in Germany in the mid-1980s (as opposed to the one reprinted
in WDG 7, which seems to date from the 1970s). I think it may have been by
Daniel Branca. Maybe this is the story Gladstone chose not to print in
1989? Or maybe I'm wrong, and the Germans actually printed the 1970s story
in the 1980s.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
(Email removed)
Yes... Gladstone decided not to print a Micro-Ducks sequel that
didn't include HDL, back around 1989. The fact that the current sequel
("Return of the Micro-Ducks," WDG 7) includes them suggests that there may
be more than one Egmont Micro-Ducks story.
Which brings me to the fact that I think I may have seen another
one, published in Germany in the mid-1980s (as opposed to the one reprinted
in WDG 7, which seems to date from the 1970s). I think it may have been by
Daniel Branca. Maybe this is the story Gladstone chose not to print in
1989? Or maybe I'm wrong, and the Germans actually printed the 1970s story
in the 1980s.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
(Email removed)