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Arthur De Wolf
"Bye Harry!". Oh ... I everyone! I hadn't noticed that you were
already there! Harry just left! He has stayed with me all day and we've been
going through my collection, which was real fun. Except for the hours when
he was indexing my comics for his database! That was a little boring! But
in the remaining five minutes, we had lots of fun! ;-)

GYRO GEARLOOSE:
Did you know that someone has been using your email-account and
has sent a message to this mailing list pretending he was Scrooge McDuck?
It was around christmas! Can you tell me who the person REALLY was who sent
that message?

CRISTIAN LUCAS:
I've been trying to write to you in private email, but my messages
bounced. Could you send me your correct address? I'd like to discuss
Argentenian Disney comics!

MARCO BARLOTTI:
> By the way, I have a couple of spare copies of these. Any collector
> interested? Arthur?
Thanks a lot for the kind offer, but I think you're already doing enough
for me with those Italian Disney comics, for which I am very grateful to
you! And I already have those Arabic titles. But have you noticed that
in all the stories in those Arabic comics, they have REMOVED ALL of the HATS
of characters like Uncle Scrooge and Gyro Gearloose? That's REALLY awkward,
don't you think? It has probably something to do with a religion or
something!

Bye!

Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman (soon with mapped images! ;-)
Didier Ghez
Sad news:
Franquin passed away.
Didier
Marco Barlotti
This is a question for our friendly administrator, Per.

At the start of a new year, it would be interesting to have an update of the
situation of the Mailing List. By this I mean, as it was already done
earlier, how many subscribers there are from each country. But also, if
possible: how many of these have been subscribers for at least -say- six
months? (I have always wondered what is the percentage of those who
unsubscribe after just a few weeks).
[Just don't give a "Top Ten List" of those who ask too many boring
questions, lest I find my name in the first position...]
Thanks,
Marco
Harry Fluks
ARTHUR:
> Harry just left! He has stayed with me all day

I've had a wonderful day with you yesterday, Arthur! You really have an
impressive collection of foreign Disney comics. And I also enjoyed "The Hunchback
of the Notre-Dame" in Antwerpen. De backgrounds in the movie kept reminding
me of the Notre Duck cathedral...

MICHAEL NAIMAN:
Arthur showed me a copy of your magazine with a Gyro Gearloose cover
sketch in it, by Carl Barks. It's the "head scratching machine" cover that is
also used (inked by Van Horn) on one of Gladstone's "CBL of Gyro" albums.
I have two questions:
1. What's the background of this cover? When was it drawn?
(This cover is of interest because it's one of the things that was NOT reprinted
in the b/w Carl Barks Library. And I don't think Michael Barrier mentions it in
his bibliography.)
2. Do you have a bigger copy of the sketch (the one on the magazine was
printed very small)?

ARTHUR (and others):
> Except for the hours when he was indexing my comics for his database!

I plan to release a new version of the database (as always, through the ftp
site of Per) near the end of the month. Again, there are a lot of additions to the
previous version!

BENT PEDERSEN:
When my hard disk crashed, I lost the mail where your website address is in.
Could you send it to me again?
(Bent made a browser for the database, for MS-Windows.)

--Harry.
http://www.pi.net/~fluks4/disney.htm

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End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #3
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Cristian Lucas
Hello!

> CRISTIAN LUCAS:
> I've been trying to write to you in private email, but my messages
> bounced. Could you send me your correct address? I'd like to discuss
> Argentenian Disney comics!

Sure, my e-mail is (Email removed), please feel free to write.

> you noticed that in all the stories in those Arabic comics, they
> have REMOVED ALL of the HATS of characters like Uncle Scrooge and
> Gyro Gearloose? That's REALLY awkward, don't you think? It has
> probably something to do with a religion or something!

This is incredible! Will they erase hats too in movies, literature,
photography, just to name three branches of art?

# Cristian Lucas
# From Buenos Aires, Argentina
Don Rosa
CHRISTER:
...who is still looking for the "D.U.C.K." in the splash-panel of "Vigilante
of Pizen Bluff" sez:
>Maybe it is my eyes, but after reading this I once again looked over it and
>I can't find it. I would have thought it'd be place either on the chest or
>in the book. There are something on the top of the right page in the book
>that maybe can be the D.U.C.K., but it looks more like just scrible. There
>is a triangle sticker to the chest-top with nothing on it and none of the
>money has anything on them. So have I mentioned the place?

Yes, you've mentioned where it is, but not exactly. You are looking at the
Norwegian edition, right? I checked my copy to make certain, and the
"D.U.C.K." is right there, so obvious that I can't imagine why you don't see
it. I'm still not gonna tell you -- look again!

>BTW: Just right above Scrooge's peek there is something that looks like
>"Don" written on the (or as) the coins in the bin. I guess this is just
>something that looks like it, but not really is something, since you don't
>make self-references in your stories.

Weeeeelllll, I have been known to hide my name in a panel once, but I hid
several other names in the same panel (I'm thinking about a panel in
"Treasure of the Ten Avatars"). But the "Don" you think you see in "Pizen
Bluff" is in your imagination.

>Well, I'm subscribing to all Gladstone's so don't be sorry I'll see it. But
>will the "to be continued"-gag be in the one-parter?

(Referring to the panel where Pothole McDuck says that this is where he
would write "To be continued next week" in one of his dime-novels, and
that's right where the 3-part chapter ends with "to be continued next
week".) Yeah, that line will be in the uncontinued 1-part versions, but it
won't read like a gag since the story won't be continued.
Per Starback
List memberships at the turn of the year. (Actually they are from
today, January 7.)

The last time I did an overview like this (August 1996 -- see digest
volume96/186!) I counted the COM and EDU domains as belonging to the
USA, although with a caveat about there being addresses outside the
USA in them as well. This time I count them among non-geographic
domains instead.

I've listed all the subscribers to the Disney comics mailing list,
both non-digest and digest subscribers. When there are identical
addresses subscribing to both forms of the list, one of them has been
excluded for the statistics.

I've listed all top domains, and subdomains with more than one address.

Note that the information comes only from the domains of the
addresses; people might be located somewhere else in the real world.

Note also that there is at least one "exploder address" on the list,
where mail is forwarded so other people can read it as well, so there
may be other readers than those here accounted for.

* Non-geographic
100 COM = Commercial (AOL 24, Netcom 9, Compuserve 6,
Hotmail 4, Telia 3, Juno 3, TPSINC 2,
Primenet 2, MSN 2, Erols 2)
33 NET = Network (Worldnet.ATT 5, PI 4, Earthlink 2)
31 EDU = Education (ECO.Uncor 3, Clark 2, Wednet 2)
4 ORG = Organization (GNOFN 2)
-------
168 Non-geographic, total

* Europe
31 NO = Norway (UIO 6, Misjonshs 3, SN 3, UNIT 3, Online 2)
29 FI = Finland (HUT 5, JYU 3, Helsinki 2,
Trantek 2, UTU 2)
21 SE = Sweden (UU 4, Swipnet 3, Algonet 2)
18 DE = Germany (SNAFU 2, T-Online 2)
16 IT = Italy (VOL 3, UNIPI 2)
12 DK = Denmark (PIP.DKnet 4, POST4.TELE 2)
3 GR = Greece
3 NL = Netherlands
3 UK = UK (AC 2)
2 AT = Austria (AC 2)
2 CH = Switzerland
2 IS = Iceland
1 BE = Belgium
1 FR = France
1 HR = Croatia
1 LU = Luxembourg
------
146 Europe, total

18 US = USA (CSI.CC.ID 3, K12.MO 2, K12.NJ 2,
Milwaukee.TEC.WI 2)
2 GOV = USA, Government
1 MIL = USA, Military
6 CA = Canada (AB 2)
-------
27 North America, total

But note that a majority of the non-geographic addresses above really
are located in the USA!

* South and Central America
7 BR = Brazil (COM 5)
3 VE = Venezuela (UNE.EDU 3)
3 AR = Argentina (COM 2)
1 PE = Peru
1 MX = Mexico
------
15 South and Central America, total

* Asia
4 SG = Singapore (Leonis.NUS 2)
3 JP = Japan (AC 2)
1 HK = Hong Kong
1 IN = India
------
9 Asia, total

* The rest
7 AU = Australia (COM 3, EDU 3)
1 ZA = South Africa
------
8 The rest of the world

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373 Grand total (345 get the digest, 32 get the individual messages)
David Gerstein
MARCO:
(Regarding Egyptian Disney comics)
>One of the two comics (issue # 1863 of <Mikey>) is "Gladstone format" and
>has one-pagers from France's "Journal de Mickey", an H-coded 2-pager and two
>longer stories from Egmont. Content: FJM 96406G (a Disney Baby one-pager);
>FJM 96005D (this one is by an Italian artist, Gian Piero Ubezio!); D 93414
>(14 pages); D 92276 (one page); H 87146 (2 pages); D 94110 (10 pages); FJM
>95349 G (one page).
You say you have an extra copy of this? Then I *must* obtain it,
because D 94110 is one of my own stories, "The Sheepish Rancher"! I'll be
in touch via private E-mail to discuss it further.

ARTHUR said this to "Gyro":
> Did you know that someone has been using your email-account and
>has sent a message to this mailing list pretending he was Scrooge McDuck?
>It was around christmas! Can you tell me who the person REALLY was who sent
>that message?
It was Magica De Spell, of course! Hee! Hee! Hee!
(Any more guesses? ;-)

HARRY:
>Arthur showed me a copy of your magazine with a Gyro Gearloose cover
>sketch in it, by Carl Barks. It's the "head scratching machine" cover that is
>also used (inked by Van Horn) on one of Gladstone's "CBL of Gyro" albums.
>I have two questions:
>1. What's the background of this cover? When was it drawn?
I'm not sure, but I've seen the same image in an Egmont-reinked
version in German comics a long time ago (early 1980s). There's one
difference; Gyro was inked with a curious smile in that version, rather
than just a thoughtful expression. Which would be closer to the original
sketch (which I've not seen)?

<(Email removed)>
Arthur De Wolf
Hi!

HARRY to MICHAEL:
> What's the background of this cover?
Well, it looked kind of WHITE! :-D

Bye!

Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
complete website: www.pi.net/~wolfman
beta website: home.concepts.nl/~bdw
Deckerd
In my stack of recent Gladstone reading, I happened to
read the Barks Gyro Gearloose story reprinted in Uncle
Scrooge Adventures #44 (originally printed in Uncle
Scrooge #14). The four-page story is notable for the
appearance of a character named "Speedy," who is short,
wears a blue cap rather like a sailor's cap, drives a
little red car with license plates that read "313," and
is about to have a race with Gladstone. As I recall the
explanation I read somewhere, Speedy was originally
Donald but had to be changed late in the game because of
some arcane post office regulation. My feeling is that
Donald is so obviously intended for that role that the
story is severely hurt by the substitution of Speedy,
and I could support somebody like Daan Jippes being
called in to redraw Donald back into the story. It
wouldn't be tampering exactly -- it would be restoring
the original intent. (I'm a little less positive about
my earlier idea of changing "Larkies" back to "Harpies"
in the Golden Fleece story. Granted that harpies was
Barks's original intent, harpies are part of Greek
mythology and what he was referring to, and the editorial
objection to harpies as an obscure synonym for prostitute was
fairly stupid, larkies have been part of that story
for so long they've become canonical in their own right.
Maybe somebody feels that way about Speedy, I dunno.)

Also in that Gyro story, Barks established a strange
wall or fence alongside Gyro's property that had been
extruded from cans like whipped cream ("foam-stone").
On the other side of the wall lives a nasty, goat-owning
neighbor.

So we turn to WDC&S #607, with the first part of Don Rosa's
King Arthur story. In the splash panel is a shot of Gyro's
workshop -- and whaddya know! There's the wall of foam-stone,
with a goat and a nasty neighbor in view! Don really did his
research! Only thing is...Barks had the foam-stone wall and
the goat-owning neighbor on the right side of Gyro's shop,
and Don put them on the left...

--Dwight Decker
LoLehmann
Hello everybody,

This is my first post on this list, so I guess I'd better introduce myself:
I'm french, 29, read Disney comics in the '70s, and left when I had to choose
between Le Journal De Mickey and another weekly and made the wrong choice.
I kept reading the monthly Picsou (Scrooge) Magazine at the dentist, and
began collecting the series again when Don Rosa started The Life And Times Of
Scrooge (thanks, Don!).

Picsou Magazine has just reached #300, and it's full of Don Rosa stuff: a
double poster, 9 original covers, and The Origin Of The Junior Woodchucks
Handbooks (Uncle Scrooge 27).

But the french publisher should have used a

S P O I L E R !

In the intro text, it explained why the original Junior Woodchucks logo had
been kept, instead of the french Castors Juniors one.

Anyway, nothing could have ruined this story:
As a book lover/TV hater, it was a particularly heartwarming, gutwrenching
story: Finding all these books and watching them turn to dust, yet always
survive in another form, while Donald was watching his stupid TV. I also
enjoyed the summarys of the "various" shows he watched!
And we finally learned why the Handbook knows eveything on everything!

Thanks again, Don!

PS: Was Clinton Coot the founder of the Junior Woodchucks? And if so, was it
already revealed in another story?

Laurent Lehmann

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End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #4
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Arthur De Wolf
Hi!

DAVID GERSTEIN:
> It was Magica De Spell, of course! Hee! Hee! Hee!
> (Any more guesses? ;-)
What I ACTUALLY wanted to know is who REALLY wrote the message! My first
guess was that Byron did it! But I don't know what Byron would do at
his work on Christmas-day and Brigitta MacBridge is in it and in Byron's
world, she has exploded or imploded or whatever! I also thought that it
was someone from Italy, because Brigitta is mentioned and she is an Italian
character, but the message was very well written, so I'd almost think that
it HAS to be someone from Great Britain or the States! So it is someone who
has a broad knowledge of internation Disney characters AND writes English
fluently! Some words sound VERY Americanish, though, so I think that it HAS
to be someone from the United States. The writer had a good sense of humor
and the only three Americans that I know who would be capable of writing
something like this are Byron, David and Don, but I don't know if Don could
change his email-address that easily, cause when he had a problem with his
computer once, someone else had to fix it for him! ;-) And Brigitta isn't
in Don's Duck-world either. And because it is likely that Byron was not at
his work on Christmas, the only candidate that's still left are YOU, David!!!
And you DO have an email-account! So where were you on the night of
December 26th? ;-)

Bye!

Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
complete website: www.pi.net/~wolfman
beta-test website: home.concepts.nl/~bdw
Matthew R. Sommer
hey everyone... time for my semi-annual delurk it looks like! Anyway,
not to many insights to share i'm afraid...! just some general comments
about things on the list and otherwise:

first, looking thru the diamond catalog that came out this month, i was
rather baffled to see the whole issue of USA devoted to the Menehune
Mystery!! ack! Didnt i just pay $8.95 to read this just a few months
ago? I suppose it hasnt been reprinted in the regular book for quite
some time, but it seemed like bad timing to me... oh well. at least no
more weird newpsrint covers...

its hard to believe, but up to #16 on the albums! wow... never imagined
a year ago that i'd be investing so much dough in disney comics :) it
all started at the chicago comicon, buying about 30 albums at half
price!! someone help me :) Now if only we could get some more
collections of YOUR work Don... maybe i could finally get to see some of
it! I think the last thing of your i saw might have been the LO$!
Phooey on Gladstone and their $7 WDCS w/ multiple parters! I know that
Don is about the only real "bankable" disney artist in the US, but it
just seems so cynical sometimes...

>And here is my question to you all: Do you think this is a good idea ?
>Don't you think this would spoil the feeling that readers have that the
>characters are part of their country ? What would you have felt as a >kid?

DIDIER- what you describe here is kind of hard for me, or maybe most
americans, to understand... being the cultural elitists that we are (he
says with tongue SORT OF in cheek), we never really had much popular
culture or entertainment imported from other countries, hence we never
faced this kind of thing... do YOU really think having the characters be
from a different country ruins things, or at least makes them less
enjoyable? I'd really be interested in hearing. I tend to think that
kids have an inherent fascination with foreign cultures, so who knows?
maybe it'd be even more exciting! :)

expanding a child's horizons is always a good thing!

um... i guess thats it for now :) thanks for the time...

-matt-
Don Rosa
DAVID:
I knew it was you who sent that Christmas message where $crooge was posting
something through Gyro's Internet account. The main give-away was the
comment about "Gurgle-Urp" soda. You're the only one I've seen use that name.

DWIGHT:
Thanks for noticing my details, this instance being the "in-jokes" in the
splash-panel of "The Once and Future Duck". Why did I have that foam-stone
wall on the wrong side of Gyro's shack? I think because I decided to put
that background detail in AFTER I had already penciled in the nephews and
the shack and so forth, and didn't feel like starting from scratch. I might
have had the panel optically-flipped when I was done, but I prefer
characters to "enter" the story from left to right.

LAURENT:
I was just reading Per's summary of the List members and was wondering why
there was only ONE member in all of France -- and you pop up in the same Digest!
Yes, I just today received my copies of PICSOU #300! Thanks for mentioning
it (since I don't originate such conversations about my own work, but am
always happy to participate!). But it was a nice issue, and the PICSOU
editor (Pascal Pierrey) did make lots of use of my stuff in that issue!
To start with, it's too bad that only Donald appears on the cover, but
that's been true of every issue of PICSOU (U$'s name in France) for several
years. They say the issue sells much better when DD is on the cover, and
their covers always show large images of Donald, rather than gag scenes or
scenes from a story... so they can't put $crooge on the cover WITH Donald.
Anyway, don't lead the folks here to think that issue featured 9 "original"
covers by me. Those were reprints of old covers. What Laurent refers to is a
sort of gallery that reprinted various covers minus all the logos and prices
and UPC symbols and so on. All nicely colored.
The only original Rosa work was the large fold-out poster of Uncle $crooge
and all the Duck/Barks characters. And on the backside was a large-size
version of my cover of Gladstone's U$#300 -- the original version with all
65 floating heads in place, not the cut-down version that Disney made
Gladstone use. And I thought that somehow even looked nicer than the new
poster on the reverse. Nice coloring on both sides.
This issue reprinted my "Guardians of the Lost Library", and, as you say,
and as other European publishers have done, the "surprise ending" of the
story is spoiled even before the story begins! In this issue the contents
page bills the story as "the origin of the Woodchuck Guidebook" (as did the
cover of the Norwegian edition, no less), but hopefully readers might forget
that blurb by the time they are deep into the story...?
When I did "Guardians" I already had formed my Duck Family Tree with Clinton
Coot in place (having done so around the time of the 1992 presidential
elections in honor of my man Bill). But I guess it was with this story that
I decided that he was the founder of the Woodchucks. No, I didn't get
Clinton Coot from Barks or anywhere else -- he was a character I needed to
create for the Tree simply to link one generation of Barks characters to the
next. Right now I am doing the 60th Anniversary HD&L story, and it will deal
with how they first joined the Jr.WCs, and I imagine I'll include more info
about the formation of that group and Clinton Coot.
Speaking of the "Guardians" story in PICSOU, as I flipped through I happened
to notice one panel where General Snozzie (the Official Hound) is THINKING
something. Putting words into an animals mind is not something I would do
normally, if ever. Somebody at Picsou changed the balloons around to give
the dog some mental dialogue. Please tell me what the dog is thinking on
page 77, panel 3.
Anyway, thanks for the comments. Why do you think there are so few French
folks in our group here?
BENGSHAGY
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