JAKOB :
>I remember having read somewhere that Birgitta *was* created by Barks. As I
>remember it he had drawn some sketches on the character for someone to make
>a story of (could that be Scarpa??). But those sketches are lost.
>Or do I confuse this with something else?
Scarpa created Brigitta in 1960, in Topolino 243.
In 1975, Scarpa met Barks and showed Brigitta to the maestro. In return,
Barks sent Scarpa a sketch depicting Brigitta using some 'money perfume' to
seduce Scrooge, and granted him the authorization to make a story of it. This
story is called in french 'Le Casque d'Or' (The Golden Helmet, litterally).
(a bit of knowledge from Mickey Parade 194 and Picsou 293)
> > There is a Taliaferro-Sunday-page collection in German.
> There's also one in Sweden. Or *was* some years ago. There were three
> albums/pockets published of the years 1938-40 (or something). Nothing too
> special though, IMO. But I'd *love* to see it in English...
365 Taliaferro's sunday pages were reprinted in France too in an oversized
(202 pages, 27 * 36 cm!) hardback. Other classic Disney comics were printed
in the same collection. Never knew where to file 'em...
DON :
I just read Don's tale of shrinking Donald & Scrooge, Beagle Boys, fleas and
prunes (Picsou 295). Ex-cel-lent ! So much for censorship and corporal
hygiene...
Laurent - Really hoping there'll be a french LO$ book. Maybe I should learn
italian?
Author
Topic: 199701
(301 messages)
LoLehmann
Brigitta, Sunday pages, Fleas and prunes
Message 166 -
1997-01-17 at 23:41:02
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V97 #14
Message 167 -
1997-01-18 at 01:17:48
HARRY:
What does the "iglou" in my Internet address mean? The "lou" part stands for
Louisville; the "ig" part stands for Iggy Popnecker, the guy who runs the
local Internet service. I'm lying. I don't know what the "ig" means. Do you
ask that question of every Internet address you see? What does the "pi" in
your address represent? 3.14159265+?
Thanks for that list of JW stories, but I have several such lists. What I
don't have is the time to dig out all those stories and read them on the OFF
chance one MIGHT mention the highest JW rank. That's the sorta thing I hope
to sometimes use you nice folks for -- I thought perhaps one of you 400
folks might just happen to know that having by sheer chance recently read
such a story and made a mental note of it. For instance, one time about
20-25 years ago I was watching an episode of "The Rifleman" on TV and
Sheriff Micah Torrence mentioned that Lucas McCain's deceased wife's maiden
name was Margaret Gibbs... so I made a mental note of it. I've never
forgotten it (though I forget MUCH more important stuff), and I would
suppose I am the only human being on the planet who could answer that
question off the toppa my head if asked. I'll go crazy if someone doesn't
ask me that someday!!!
FREDRIK:
Another thing I don't have time for is to write to all those Dick Reich's
you found. Could you or someone else here do it? I'll tell ya', since now
that story is lost, I'll make the offer that if anyone can locate Dick Reich
and he knows where that story is and I can locate it and get aholt of it,
I'll GIVE the darn thing to whoever hunted it down for me. I'd just like to
have copies of it.
JAKOB: (everyone else skip this looooong story)
That toy museum with those old KALLE ANKA & CO.s -- yeah, sounds like they
got me mixed up with two other guys. Are you sure they didn't mean to say I
create STORIES of the Disney characters? Still, I'm about 40 years away from
being "legendary". I'm sure your suggested changes would be more accurate.
Anyway, whatsa story on those KALLE ANKAs? (First of all, for you
non-Swedes, KALLE ANKA is the Donald Duck weekly of Sweden.) I'm sure I told
this tale here before, but I will again. In 1991 I made my first European
tour for Egmont to promote the comics I do for them. One place I visited was
the comic convention in Stockholm where I sat at the Egmont booth with the
KALLE ANKA publishers. I was very impressed by the armed guard they had
standing beside a ratty, beat-up copy of KALLE ANKA #1 in a display case...
and I was told that it was supposedly worth something like $15,000. Now,
even Americans are hard-pressed to pay that much for such a recent (1948)
comic, and there's no need to tell me that the copy Egmont had wasn't worth
much in its wretched shape, regardless of what people might actually pay for
a KA #1. But as a collector of vintage comics, I was interested.
So, anyway, a month or two later I was a guest at the DallasCon comic
convention (Dallas, Texas, natch), and I was flipping through a box of
miscellaneous old comics (where I can often be found) looking for plugs for
the gaps in my many sets. And suddenly there was KALLE ANKA #2-10 in
pristine-mint condition, a few stamped "file copy". I asked the guy (an old
dealer friend of mine) WHERE he had gotten these! He said he got them in
trade from a kid who was given the issues by a man he had done a babysitting
job for. The man used to live in Sweden but moved to New Mexico in the
1950s. The dealer had put them in his "junk" box knowing no one would want
them in the USA, but since they were 43 years old and in PERFECT unopened
condition, he put prices of $20 on each one. He hadn't sold any except the
#1 which was bought by a kid purely because he thought it was an oddity. I
told my friend that these were considered VERY valuable in Sweden and he
could get a pile of money for them there. This was a dealer of the "old
school", a man after my own heart who likes to sell old comics, not reap
windfall profits, and he told me, oh, so? Well, he got them cheap and even
at $20 he was making too big a profit, so he was leaving them like they were.
Anyway, I left the issues there. I didn't collect KALLE ANKA so I had no
right to buy them. But that night I got to thinking that, darn, I needed to
GET those issues and preserve them for the history of Swedish comics, or
else they'd be lost to Sweden! So the next day I went and gave my friend $20
each for the issues #2-10. This was not such a great idea since then I was
now burdened with WHAT to do with them. They needed to be in Sweden where
they belonged, and I had the choice of selling them for astronomical sums or
donating them to a museum of some sort. I HATE the very notion of
profiteering off my hobby... but I don't make so much money, nor do I get a
pension from anyone... and SOMEDAY I'll really wish I HAD the money I'm
being so "noble" to pass up today.
The best solution came on another trip to the Stockholm comic show and that
toy museum had a booth at the fair. They said I could LEND them the comics
for extended display. This was ideal -- the comics could be in Sweden where
they belong, but they'd still be MINE, and I could postpone the wrestle with
my conscience as to what to eventually do with them.
So, that's the issues you saw. This Swede who moved to New Mexico apparently
worked for Egmont-Sweden in the 40s-50s and had stolen their file copies!
And THAT was why Egmont now has that old ratty beat-up issue that they had
to buy just to have something to display at their booth.
What about the #1? I know the name of the kid who bought it and that he
lives in New Mexico. But I've tried locating him to no avail. Somewhere out
there is a kid with a KALLE ANKA #1 in perfect mint condition, and he
probably has it under his bed in the dustballs with his Wolverine and Spawn
comics. Or worse.
There. Was that tale worth the Digest space?
What does the "iglou" in my Internet address mean? The "lou" part stands for
Louisville; the "ig" part stands for Iggy Popnecker, the guy who runs the
local Internet service. I'm lying. I don't know what the "ig" means. Do you
ask that question of every Internet address you see? What does the "pi" in
your address represent? 3.14159265+?
Thanks for that list of JW stories, but I have several such lists. What I
don't have is the time to dig out all those stories and read them on the OFF
chance one MIGHT mention the highest JW rank. That's the sorta thing I hope
to sometimes use you nice folks for -- I thought perhaps one of you 400
folks might just happen to know that having by sheer chance recently read
such a story and made a mental note of it. For instance, one time about
20-25 years ago I was watching an episode of "The Rifleman" on TV and
Sheriff Micah Torrence mentioned that Lucas McCain's deceased wife's maiden
name was Margaret Gibbs... so I made a mental note of it. I've never
forgotten it (though I forget MUCH more important stuff), and I would
suppose I am the only human being on the planet who could answer that
question off the toppa my head if asked. I'll go crazy if someone doesn't
ask me that someday!!!
FREDRIK:
Another thing I don't have time for is to write to all those Dick Reich's
you found. Could you or someone else here do it? I'll tell ya', since now
that story is lost, I'll make the offer that if anyone can locate Dick Reich
and he knows where that story is and I can locate it and get aholt of it,
I'll GIVE the darn thing to whoever hunted it down for me. I'd just like to
have copies of it.
JAKOB: (everyone else skip this looooong story)
That toy museum with those old KALLE ANKA & CO.s -- yeah, sounds like they
got me mixed up with two other guys. Are you sure they didn't mean to say I
create STORIES of the Disney characters? Still, I'm about 40 years away from
being "legendary". I'm sure your suggested changes would be more accurate.
Anyway, whatsa story on those KALLE ANKAs? (First of all, for you
non-Swedes, KALLE ANKA is the Donald Duck weekly of Sweden.) I'm sure I told
this tale here before, but I will again. In 1991 I made my first European
tour for Egmont to promote the comics I do for them. One place I visited was
the comic convention in Stockholm where I sat at the Egmont booth with the
KALLE ANKA publishers. I was very impressed by the armed guard they had
standing beside a ratty, beat-up copy of KALLE ANKA #1 in a display case...
and I was told that it was supposedly worth something like $15,000. Now,
even Americans are hard-pressed to pay that much for such a recent (1948)
comic, and there's no need to tell me that the copy Egmont had wasn't worth
much in its wretched shape, regardless of what people might actually pay for
a KA #1. But as a collector of vintage comics, I was interested.
So, anyway, a month or two later I was a guest at the DallasCon comic
convention (Dallas, Texas, natch), and I was flipping through a box of
miscellaneous old comics (where I can often be found) looking for plugs for
the gaps in my many sets. And suddenly there was KALLE ANKA #2-10 in
pristine-mint condition, a few stamped "file copy". I asked the guy (an old
dealer friend of mine) WHERE he had gotten these! He said he got them in
trade from a kid who was given the issues by a man he had done a babysitting
job for. The man used to live in Sweden but moved to New Mexico in the
1950s. The dealer had put them in his "junk" box knowing no one would want
them in the USA, but since they were 43 years old and in PERFECT unopened
condition, he put prices of $20 on each one. He hadn't sold any except the
#1 which was bought by a kid purely because he thought it was an oddity. I
told my friend that these were considered VERY valuable in Sweden and he
could get a pile of money for them there. This was a dealer of the "old
school", a man after my own heart who likes to sell old comics, not reap
windfall profits, and he told me, oh, so? Well, he got them cheap and even
at $20 he was making too big a profit, so he was leaving them like they were.
Anyway, I left the issues there. I didn't collect KALLE ANKA so I had no
right to buy them. But that night I got to thinking that, darn, I needed to
GET those issues and preserve them for the history of Swedish comics, or
else they'd be lost to Sweden! So the next day I went and gave my friend $20
each for the issues #2-10. This was not such a great idea since then I was
now burdened with WHAT to do with them. They needed to be in Sweden where
they belonged, and I had the choice of selling them for astronomical sums or
donating them to a museum of some sort. I HATE the very notion of
profiteering off my hobby... but I don't make so much money, nor do I get a
pension from anyone... and SOMEDAY I'll really wish I HAD the money I'm
being so "noble" to pass up today.
The best solution came on another trip to the Stockholm comic show and that
toy museum had a booth at the fair. They said I could LEND them the comics
for extended display. This was ideal -- the comics could be in Sweden where
they belong, but they'd still be MINE, and I could postpone the wrestle with
my conscience as to what to eventually do with them.
So, that's the issues you saw. This Swede who moved to New Mexico apparently
worked for Egmont-Sweden in the 40s-50s and had stolen their file copies!
And THAT was why Egmont now has that old ratty beat-up issue that they had
to buy just to have something to display at their booth.
What about the #1? I know the name of the kid who bought it and that he
lives in New Mexico. But I've tried locating him to no avail. Somewhere out
there is a kid with a KALLE ANKA #1 in perfect mint condition, and he
probably has it under his bed in the dustballs with his Wolverine and Spawn
comics. Or worse.
There. Was that tale worth the Digest space?
Marco Barlotti
Wounded prides
Message 168 -
1997-01-18 at 01:28:41
GARY:
>My pride is wounded, Marco! [...] Now I find out I'm not even worthy of
being considered as an example!
>
HARRY:
>If it's of any comfort: you're not the only one. Pieter van Cleef wasn't
mentioned
>either, and his company is bigger than yours...
Hey, hey... I wasn't making a complete list of <important> ML members, I
just wanted to point out a couple of examples to impress Lidia... and David
came to my mind rather than Gary for Gladstone only because last month's
"Zio Paperone" quoted David, so I thought Lidia should recognize the name
easily! I haven't hurt your feelings, have I?
Your ever humblier
Marco
>My pride is wounded, Marco! [...] Now I find out I'm not even worthy of
being considered as an example!
>
HARRY:
>If it's of any comfort: you're not the only one. Pieter van Cleef wasn't
mentioned
>either, and his company is bigger than yours...
Hey, hey... I wasn't making a complete list of <important> ML members, I
just wanted to point out a couple of examples to impress Lidia... and David
came to my mind rather than Gary for Gladstone only because last month's
"Zio Paperone" quoted David, so I thought Lidia should recognize the name
easily! I haven't hurt your feelings, have I?
Your ever humblier
Marco
Marco Barlotti
Little Gum stories
Message 169 -
1997-01-18 at 01:28:43
JACOB:
>
>I don't think I would've had too much trouble with the titles...
>
All right, in the last weeks I have updated a little my data base. So this
is a list of the stories featuring Little Gum which is more complete than
the previous one in two ways: (1) there are more stories listed, not only
the ones featuring <Little Gum> IN THE TITLE but possibly ALL the relevant
ones; (2) more information (alas, in Italian) is given.
The list is in a "modified" Fossati format, as developed with Frank Stajano
a few months ago...
Title
Writer/Artist
#/comments/appearances
[reprints]
where # is the NUMBER OF PAGES, and appearances AREN'T usually listed (they
should be, since Fossati listed them... however all these stories were not
indexed by Fossati, so those data are usually missing...)
1707 - 14/8
Paperinik e l'incredibile Little Gum
Chierchini/Chierchini
60/storia dipinta, storia in due tempi, prima apparizione di Little Gum/
[Grandi Classici Disney 84]
1730 - 22/1
Little Gum e la scultura pneumatica
?/Chierchini
7/storia dipinta/QQQ, Anacleto
1739 - 26/3
Litle Gum e la 313 volante
Chierchini/Chierchini
5/storia dipinta/
1741 - 9/4
Paperino e la primula di gomma
Chierchini/Chierchini
61/storia in due tempi, storia dipinta/Little Gum
1744 - 30/4
Paperino e la zoo-moda
Chierchini/Chierchini
8/storia dipinta/Little Gum
1746 - 14/5
Paperino e l'albero particolare
Chierchini/Chierchini
10//Little Gum
1753 - 2/7
Little Gum e il porcino porcello
Chierchini/Chierchini
6/storia dipinta/
1756 - 23/7
Paperino, Little Gum e... il trofeo "laghetto felice"
Chierchini/Chierchini
7/storia dipinta/
1761 - 27/8
Zio Paperone e l'autogomma in serie
Chierchini/Chierchini
14/storia dipinta/Little Gum
1769 - 22/10
Litle Gum e la cassaforte del... pettegolezzo
Chierchini/Chierchini
7/storia dipinta/
1788 - 4/3
Little Gum e il pik nik
Chierchini/Chierchini
11/storia dipinta/
[Classici di Walt Disney 235]
1790 - 18/3
Little Gum e il mega agente
Chierchini/Chierchini
9//
1795 - 22/4
Zio Paperone e l'asteroide El Dorado
Chierchini/Chierchini
78/storia in 2 tempi - storia dipinta/Little Gum
1810 - 5/8
Paperino e l'imprevisto fortunato
Chierchini/Chierchini
23/storia dipinta/Little Gum
1819 - 7/10
Paperino e il dilemma sul tappeto volante
Chierchini/Chierchini
20//Little Gum
1836 - 3/2
Topolino e Little Gum fantasmi a bizzeffe (I)
Chierchini/Chierchini
34/storia dipinta/
1837 - 10/2
Topolino e Little Gum fantasmi a bizzeffe (II)
Chierchini/Chierchini
31//
1838 - 17/2
Topolino e Little Gum fantasmi a bizzeffe (III)
Chierchini/Chierchini
38//
1890 - 16/2
Paperino e il trofeo... pneumatico
Chist=E9/Chist=E9
16/storia dipinta - promozione "Trofeo Topolino"/Little Gum, Topolino
1891 - 23/2
Paperino e il ritorno a El Dorado (I)
Chierchini/Chierchini
31/storia dipinta - terza parte della trilogia di "El Dorado" (vedi TL 1795
e TL 1811)/Little Gum
1892 - 1/3
Paperino e il ritorno a El Dorado (II)
Chierchini/Chierchini
30/storia dipinta - terza parte della trilogia di "El Dorado" (vedi TL 1795
e TL 1811)/Little Gum
1893 - 8/3
Paperino e il ritorno a El Dorado (III)
Chierchini/Chierchini
47/storia dipinta - terza parte della trilogia di "El Dorado" (vedi TL 1795
e TL 1811)/Little Gum
1997 - 6/3
Zio Paperone e il deposito sommerso
Michelini/Chierchini
63/storia in due tempi - storia dipinta/Little Gum
I hope this message wasn't too long... I also hope this Digest doesn't turn
out to be a <Marcobar only>...
Marco
>
>I don't think I would've had too much trouble with the titles...
>
All right, in the last weeks I have updated a little my data base. So this
is a list of the stories featuring Little Gum which is more complete than
the previous one in two ways: (1) there are more stories listed, not only
the ones featuring <Little Gum> IN THE TITLE but possibly ALL the relevant
ones; (2) more information (alas, in Italian) is given.
The list is in a "modified" Fossati format, as developed with Frank Stajano
a few months ago...
Title
Writer/Artist
#/comments/appearances
[reprints]
where # is the NUMBER OF PAGES, and appearances AREN'T usually listed (they
should be, since Fossati listed them... however all these stories were not
indexed by Fossati, so those data are usually missing...)
1707 - 14/8
Paperinik e l'incredibile Little Gum
Chierchini/Chierchini
60/storia dipinta, storia in due tempi, prima apparizione di Little Gum/
[Grandi Classici Disney 84]
1730 - 22/1
Little Gum e la scultura pneumatica
?/Chierchini
7/storia dipinta/QQQ, Anacleto
1739 - 26/3
Litle Gum e la 313 volante
Chierchini/Chierchini
5/storia dipinta/
1741 - 9/4
Paperino e la primula di gomma
Chierchini/Chierchini
61/storia in due tempi, storia dipinta/Little Gum
1744 - 30/4
Paperino e la zoo-moda
Chierchini/Chierchini
8/storia dipinta/Little Gum
1746 - 14/5
Paperino e l'albero particolare
Chierchini/Chierchini
10//Little Gum
1753 - 2/7
Little Gum e il porcino porcello
Chierchini/Chierchini
6/storia dipinta/
1756 - 23/7
Paperino, Little Gum e... il trofeo "laghetto felice"
Chierchini/Chierchini
7/storia dipinta/
1761 - 27/8
Zio Paperone e l'autogomma in serie
Chierchini/Chierchini
14/storia dipinta/Little Gum
1769 - 22/10
Litle Gum e la cassaforte del... pettegolezzo
Chierchini/Chierchini
7/storia dipinta/
1788 - 4/3
Little Gum e il pik nik
Chierchini/Chierchini
11/storia dipinta/
[Classici di Walt Disney 235]
1790 - 18/3
Little Gum e il mega agente
Chierchini/Chierchini
9//
1795 - 22/4
Zio Paperone e l'asteroide El Dorado
Chierchini/Chierchini
78/storia in 2 tempi - storia dipinta/Little Gum
1810 - 5/8
Paperino e l'imprevisto fortunato
Chierchini/Chierchini
23/storia dipinta/Little Gum
1819 - 7/10
Paperino e il dilemma sul tappeto volante
Chierchini/Chierchini
20//Little Gum
1836 - 3/2
Topolino e Little Gum fantasmi a bizzeffe (I)
Chierchini/Chierchini
34/storia dipinta/
1837 - 10/2
Topolino e Little Gum fantasmi a bizzeffe (II)
Chierchini/Chierchini
31//
1838 - 17/2
Topolino e Little Gum fantasmi a bizzeffe (III)
Chierchini/Chierchini
38//
1890 - 16/2
Paperino e il trofeo... pneumatico
Chist=E9/Chist=E9
16/storia dipinta - promozione "Trofeo Topolino"/Little Gum, Topolino
1891 - 23/2
Paperino e il ritorno a El Dorado (I)
Chierchini/Chierchini
31/storia dipinta - terza parte della trilogia di "El Dorado" (vedi TL 1795
e TL 1811)/Little Gum
1892 - 1/3
Paperino e il ritorno a El Dorado (II)
Chierchini/Chierchini
30/storia dipinta - terza parte della trilogia di "El Dorado" (vedi TL 1795
e TL 1811)/Little Gum
1893 - 8/3
Paperino e il ritorno a El Dorado (III)
Chierchini/Chierchini
47/storia dipinta - terza parte della trilogia di "El Dorado" (vedi TL 1795
e TL 1811)/Little Gum
1997 - 6/3
Zio Paperone e il deposito sommerso
Michelini/Chierchini
63/storia in due tempi - storia dipinta/Little Gum
I hope this message wasn't too long... I also hope this Digest doesn't turn
out to be a <Marcobar only>...
Marco
Eric Chun
Carl Barks' Surviving Comic Book Art
Message 170 -
1997-01-18 at 04:35:04
Regarding "Carl Barks' Surviving Comic Book Art", Daniel van Eijeren
wrote:
>Can you give me a little more information? I want to know if the book
>is worth buying.
It's a paperback book, about the size and thickness of a CBL color
volume. It's written in English. Primarily, it lists which comic
book pages (that Carl Barks drew) are still in existence, and lists
where and when each page was last known to be sold. I don't think
it said who the sellers and buyers were, but may have listed the
auction name. (I didn't read it very well. Just read some parts,
and scanned over other parts.) I think there's also an index of
when each story was written.
The only complete story which is still in existence is "North of the
Yukon" (from U$ #59). (That's one of my two favorite stories!)
Evidently, the editor knew of CB's impending retirement, and saved
it as a souvenir for CB.
If you can find a comic book page for sale, it would cost over
$3000. Maybe over $5000. Finding a page for sale might be hard to
do.
Should you buy the book? You can probably get if for around $25-$35.
In this day and age of $2-$7 for new comics, $25 is pocket change for
a book like this. If you're interested in searching for original art
or when the stories were written, then it'll probably be fun to read.
Cheers!
Eric =)
wrote:
>Can you give me a little more information? I want to know if the book
>is worth buying.
It's a paperback book, about the size and thickness of a CBL color
volume. It's written in English. Primarily, it lists which comic
book pages (that Carl Barks drew) are still in existence, and lists
where and when each page was last known to be sold. I don't think
it said who the sellers and buyers were, but may have listed the
auction name. (I didn't read it very well. Just read some parts,
and scanned over other parts.) I think there's also an index of
when each story was written.
The only complete story which is still in existence is "North of the
Yukon" (from U$ #59). (That's one of my two favorite stories!)
Evidently, the editor knew of CB's impending retirement, and saved
it as a souvenir for CB.
If you can find a comic book page for sale, it would cost over
$3000. Maybe over $5000. Finding a page for sale might be hard to
do.
Should you buy the book? You can probably get if for around $25-$35.
In this day and age of $2-$7 for new comics, $25 is pocket change for
a book like this. If you're interested in searching for original art
or when the stories were written, then it'll probably be fun to read.
Cheers!
Eric =)
David Gerstein
Disney comics Digest V97 #14
Message 171 -
1997-01-18 at 07:44:54
JAKOB:
Sorry to bust your bubble, but it's always seemed to me that
"Dumbella" would be a nickname for Della, and not the other way around.
Della is a real person's name. Dumbella is a joking name, as has been
indicated (it was made more "humorous" for the cartoon version of HDL's
first appearance), but that doesn't mean it's uncanonical. If I ever
showed DD and Della together, I'd use "Dumbella" as Donald's mischievous
nickname for his sister. (I guess such a scene would be a flashback to
when Donald was a kid, because who knows what's happened to Della now? I'd
like to try to explain, but I don't want to beat Don Rosa to the punch...
;-)
Re: "TOYLAND"
This topic has reminded me of something. It is fairly peripheral,
but I recall someone here stating that the 1949 Firestone giveaway -- "New
Toys," the one after "Toyland" -- was something like the fifth time Scrooge
was a presence within the Barks universe (only referred to, though, as
Donald called up "McDuck's Toyland").
Actually, the CBLDD album version of this story reveals that
"Firestone Toyland" was originally the name of the shop. I suspect that
when Gladstone reprinted the story in MICKEY AND DONALD 1 (Xmas 1987),
Disney must have asked that the name of Firestone, a company that still
exists and certainly wasn't paying for free advertising now, be omitted,
hence the change, but that it was okay to print it as-is in an album.
Gary, do you know if I'm right about the reasoning here?
THE SCREAMING COWBOY
I recently found all the lyrics to this song -- finished from the
"incomplete" Barks version by Jymn Magon for the 1982 Disney record album,
"Pardners." From memory:
"Bury me thar with my battered guitar
Screamin' my heart out fer yew --"
*** CRASH! ***
Er, sorry. Avalanche. To start over:
"Bury me thar with my battered guitar
Screamin' my heart out fer yew --
When I pass away, please ree-member the day
I told yew I'd always be true!
I said mah love for ye-ew never would die
Even though I *may*, some day!
So when yew see mah shade,
Dear, please don't be afraid --
I'm jes' screamin' my heart out fer yew!"
How's that?
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Sorry to bust your bubble, but it's always seemed to me that
"Dumbella" would be a nickname for Della, and not the other way around.
Della is a real person's name. Dumbella is a joking name, as has been
indicated (it was made more "humorous" for the cartoon version of HDL's
first appearance), but that doesn't mean it's uncanonical. If I ever
showed DD and Della together, I'd use "Dumbella" as Donald's mischievous
nickname for his sister. (I guess such a scene would be a flashback to
when Donald was a kid, because who knows what's happened to Della now? I'd
like to try to explain, but I don't want to beat Don Rosa to the punch...
;-)
Re: "TOYLAND"
This topic has reminded me of something. It is fairly peripheral,
but I recall someone here stating that the 1949 Firestone giveaway -- "New
Toys," the one after "Toyland" -- was something like the fifth time Scrooge
was a presence within the Barks universe (only referred to, though, as
Donald called up "McDuck's Toyland").
Actually, the CBLDD album version of this story reveals that
"Firestone Toyland" was originally the name of the shop. I suspect that
when Gladstone reprinted the story in MICKEY AND DONALD 1 (Xmas 1987),
Disney must have asked that the name of Firestone, a company that still
exists and certainly wasn't paying for free advertising now, be omitted,
hence the change, but that it was okay to print it as-is in an album.
Gary, do you know if I'm right about the reasoning here?
THE SCREAMING COWBOY
I recently found all the lyrics to this song -- finished from the
"incomplete" Barks version by Jymn Magon for the 1982 Disney record album,
"Pardners." From memory:
"Bury me thar with my battered guitar
Screamin' my heart out fer yew --"
*** CRASH! ***
Er, sorry. Avalanche. To start over:
"Bury me thar with my battered guitar
Screamin' my heart out fer yew --
When I pass away, please ree-member the day
I told yew I'd always be true!
I said mah love for ye-ew never would die
Even though I *may*, some day!
So when yew see mah shade,
Dear, please don't be afraid --
I'm jes' screamin' my heart out fer yew!"
How's that?
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Arthur De Wolf
New Italian Comic
Message 172 -
1997-01-18 at 10:08:28
Hi!
> Marco, didn't Lidia Cannatella talk about this when she called you ?
> Does anybody have more details ?
Me! Me! I have more details! Below is an article from the december issue
of "CopyWrite". I'll write it all down:
"Disney Italy announces several new innovative magazines. Disney Italy
launched Disney Club magazine in November, a new quarterly composed of comic
stories from Disney's TV series with games and editorial pages linked to the
TV world. The magazine is aimed at children (mainly boys) aged eight to ten,
and has a cover prce of L4000.
This month, a new bi-monthly magazine entitled Ridi Topolino was
launched containing a collection of funny stories (70%), jokes, games
and tests. The magazine targets children aged seven to ten and has a cover
price of L4000.
Maestri Disney, a new magazine for collectors will be introduced in
January 1997. It will consist of stories drawn by the main Disney artists
in monogrammed issues which also discuss facts about the artist's life.
The magazine will be bi-monthly with a cover price of L4000.
A new one-shot, L'Oroscope di Minni 1997 will be on sale this month,
linked to the well-loved Minni magazine. The magazine will contain 48 pages
of International horoscopes, games, magaic tricks and predictions. Minni
will guide readers through the pages n her inimitably modern, feminine
graphic style."
There! Maestri Disney is most likely the new comicbook that you
were talking about!
Bye!
Arthur de Wolf
> Marco, didn't Lidia Cannatella talk about this when she called you ?
> Does anybody have more details ?
Me! Me! I have more details! Below is an article from the december issue
of "CopyWrite". I'll write it all down:
"Disney Italy announces several new innovative magazines. Disney Italy
launched Disney Club magazine in November, a new quarterly composed of comic
stories from Disney's TV series with games and editorial pages linked to the
TV world. The magazine is aimed at children (mainly boys) aged eight to ten,
and has a cover prce of L4000.
This month, a new bi-monthly magazine entitled Ridi Topolino was
launched containing a collection of funny stories (70%), jokes, games
and tests. The magazine targets children aged seven to ten and has a cover
price of L4000.
Maestri Disney, a new magazine for collectors will be introduced in
January 1997. It will consist of stories drawn by the main Disney artists
in monogrammed issues which also discuss facts about the artist's life.
The magazine will be bi-monthly with a cover price of L4000.
A new one-shot, L'Oroscope di Minni 1997 will be on sale this month,
linked to the well-loved Minni magazine. The magazine will contain 48 pages
of International horoscopes, games, magaic tricks and predictions. Minni
will guide readers through the pages n her inimitably modern, feminine
graphic style."
There! Maestri Disney is most likely the new comicbook that you
were talking about!
Bye!
Arthur de Wolf
SRoweCanoe
Disney comics Digest V97 #14
Message 173 -
1997-01-18 at 11:05:27
In a message dated 97-01-17 13:45:26 EST, Dwight Decker wrote:
<<The kids' magazine you mention...
well, the digest-sized magazine Disney Adventures, which
you can find at supermarket checkout stands, runs comic
strips. I think there's a slick-paper Disney magazine of
some sort, but I don't know if it runs comic strips or not.>>
The slick paper Disney magazine does not run comic strips.
The current issue of Disney Adventures features an 8pp Doug strip.
"Doug Is In "(from the animation show on Nick). this is not a Disney comic
(written and inked by Craig Boldman, pencils by P.List, D. codor, and
M.Freedman); a 1p Goof Troop "High There!" (written by D.Parent -from Archie
comics, pencilled by C.Allan and inked by D.Hunt); and a 12pp Mighty Ducks
"So Many Spaceships" (written by D.Murray, pencilled by C. Allan, and inked
by D,Hunt) for a total of 21pp of comics. Comics editor is Heidi MacDonald
((Email removed))
Marvel may do two more issues of Disney Comic Hits(they've been solisited
butare very late), and then Acclaim will start it's line of contemporary
Disney comics.
As Dwight pointed out, this mailing list is more focused on the classic
Disney characthers, particuarly Donald Duck and Uncle Scrooge (there are a
few of us Mickey Mouse bosters here too).
Steven Rowe
<<The kids' magazine you mention...
well, the digest-sized magazine Disney Adventures, which
you can find at supermarket checkout stands, runs comic
strips. I think there's a slick-paper Disney magazine of
some sort, but I don't know if it runs comic strips or not.>>
The slick paper Disney magazine does not run comic strips.
The current issue of Disney Adventures features an 8pp Doug strip.
"Doug Is In "(from the animation show on Nick). this is not a Disney comic
(written and inked by Craig Boldman, pencils by P.List, D. codor, and
M.Freedman); a 1p Goof Troop "High There!" (written by D.Parent -from Archie
comics, pencilled by C.Allan and inked by D.Hunt); and a 12pp Mighty Ducks
"So Many Spaceships" (written by D.Murray, pencilled by C. Allan, and inked
by D,Hunt) for a total of 21pp of comics. Comics editor is Heidi MacDonald
((Email removed))
Marvel may do two more issues of Disney Comic Hits(they've been solisited
butare very late), and then Acclaim will start it's line of contemporary
Disney comics.
As Dwight pointed out, this mailing list is more focused on the classic
Disney characthers, particuarly Donald Duck and Uncle Scrooge (there are a
few of us Mickey Mouse bosters here too).
Steven Rowe
Harry Fluks
Carl Barks' Surviving Comic Book Art
Message 174 -
1997-01-18 at 11:05:35
ERIC:
> If you're interested in searching for original art
> or when the stories were written, then it'll probably be fun to read.
The dates when Barks delivered the stories to his editor are also in Michael Barrier's
book (CB and the Art of the Comic Book). Are these the dates you are talking about?
(BTW: these dates are also copied into the Disney comics Database)
--Harry.
(Disney comics Database maintainer)
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> If you're interested in searching for original art
> or when the stories were written, then it'll probably be fun to read.
The dates when Barks delivered the stories to his editor are also in Michael Barrier's
book (CB and the Art of the Comic Book). Are these the dates you are talking about?
(BTW: these dates are also copied into the Disney comics Database)
--Harry.
(Disney comics Database maintainer)
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Harry Fluks
Iglou, pi, strindberg
Message 175 -
1997-01-18 at 11:22:58
DON:
> Do you ask that question of every Internet address you see?
As you may know by now, I'm always interested in the backgrounds of names.
(I have been wondering who or what Strindberg is, for example.) And now that
"iglou" is in a comic story, it will be there in 50 years and people will be
wondering what it means.
> What does the "pi" in your address represent?
My service provider's name is Planet Internet.
> Thanks for that list of JW stories, but I have several such lists.
I know you have several indexes, but I thought they might be in a form (i.e. paper) that's
less handy to do searches like this. I got my list from a computer selection of the
Disney comics Database.
> I thought perhaps one of you 400
> folks might just happen to know that having by sheer chance recently read
> such a story and made a mental note of it.
I know what you mean, and I have several mental notes like that, but not
for JW officers...
> I'll go crazy if someone doesn't ask me that someday!!!
In mathematics (probablilty) class, we learnt that, given this statement, you'll
never go crazy... (there will always be a "someday" in the future)
8-)
> JAKOB: (everyone else skip this looooong story)
> There. Was that tale worth the Digest space?
I didn't follow your advice: I *read* it. And it *was* worth the digest space!
--Harry.
> Do you ask that question of every Internet address you see?
As you may know by now, I'm always interested in the backgrounds of names.
(I have been wondering who or what Strindberg is, for example.) And now that
"iglou" is in a comic story, it will be there in 50 years and people will be
wondering what it means.
> What does the "pi" in your address represent?
My service provider's name is Planet Internet.
> Thanks for that list of JW stories, but I have several such lists.
I know you have several indexes, but I thought they might be in a form (i.e. paper) that's
less handy to do searches like this. I got my list from a computer selection of the
Disney comics Database.
> I thought perhaps one of you 400
> folks might just happen to know that having by sheer chance recently read
> such a story and made a mental note of it.
I know what you mean, and I have several mental notes like that, but not
for JW officers...
> I'll go crazy if someone doesn't ask me that someday!!!
In mathematics (probablilty) class, we learnt that, given this statement, you'll
never go crazy... (there will always be a "someday" in the future)
8-)
> JAKOB: (everyone else skip this looooong story)
> There. Was that tale worth the Digest space?
I didn't follow your advice: I *read* it. And it *was* worth the digest space!
--Harry.
Kriton Kyrimis
Disney comics Digest V97 #14
Message 176 -
1997-01-18 at 16:11:58
JAKOB:
> > I guess that what I'm trying to say is that stories featuring Scrooge
> > and his *other* nephew, Ronald, with his nephews Gooey, Phooey and
Blooey
> > fighting the Beagle Boys should not have anything to do with Disney.
>
> So *that's* where Phooey ("the 4th nephew") comes from??! ;-)
This a point that was too subtle even for me, who wrote the above words,
to notice, but Phooey is probably one of Barks' creations, too. Thus, in
the context of what I was suggesting (which turned out to be wrong--all
characters that have appeared on Disney comics are owned by Disney :-( )
using Phooey would have been OK.
> No, it doesn't appear to me as being the same paper. But it *is* glossy, all
> right.
I compared the two kinds of paper, and you are right. The glossy paper
in WDC&S is slightly thinner than the paper used in "Comics", and less
shiny. The latter is probably a good thing, as it makes for easier reading.
> Why wouldn't the WDCs stand open on a table? OK, so I never tried it, but I
> can't think of any comicbook that'd stand *easier* on a table! Can you read
> Zio Paperone like that? My only copy wouldn't even bear to be opened...
As Harry Fluks pointed out, I meant that the albums and the new WDC&S
dont't *lie* open on a table. As for making the book stand, you are right:
both the new WDC&S and Zio Paperone snap back shut immediately when opened
wide enough to allow reading them. :-(
> To quote Don Rosa (another famous artist):
>
> "I hope I'll be interested in *breathing* when I'm his age..."
I think that Barks himself has replied on this in "Go Slowly, Sands of Time":
the source of longevity is doing for a living what you like most; despite all
the grumbling, I suspect that Barks *likes* what he is being "forced" to do.
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Why, it's travelling faster than light!"
"Yes, and it can't, can it?"
"Mmm..."
-----
> > I guess that what I'm trying to say is that stories featuring Scrooge
> > and his *other* nephew, Ronald, with his nephews Gooey, Phooey and
Blooey
> > fighting the Beagle Boys should not have anything to do with Disney.
>
> So *that's* where Phooey ("the 4th nephew") comes from??! ;-)
This a point that was too subtle even for me, who wrote the above words,
to notice, but Phooey is probably one of Barks' creations, too. Thus, in
the context of what I was suggesting (which turned out to be wrong--all
characters that have appeared on Disney comics are owned by Disney :-( )
using Phooey would have been OK.
> No, it doesn't appear to me as being the same paper. But it *is* glossy, all
> right.
I compared the two kinds of paper, and you are right. The glossy paper
in WDC&S is slightly thinner than the paper used in "Comics", and less
shiny. The latter is probably a good thing, as it makes for easier reading.
> Why wouldn't the WDCs stand open on a table? OK, so I never tried it, but I
> can't think of any comicbook that'd stand *easier* on a table! Can you read
> Zio Paperone like that? My only copy wouldn't even bear to be opened...
As Harry Fluks pointed out, I meant that the albums and the new WDC&S
dont't *lie* open on a table. As for making the book stand, you are right:
both the new WDC&S and Zio Paperone snap back shut immediately when opened
wide enough to allow reading them. :-(
> To quote Don Rosa (another famous artist):
>
> "I hope I'll be interested in *breathing* when I'm his age..."
I think that Barks himself has replied on this in "Go Slowly, Sands of Time":
the source of longevity is doing for a living what you like most; despite all
the grumbling, I suspect that Barks *likes* what he is being "forced" to do.
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Why, it's travelling faster than light!"
"Yes, and it can't, can it?"
"Mmm..."
-----
SFox236755
Disney comics Digest V97 #15
Message 177 -
1997-01-18 at 17:34:15
unsubscribe
Fabrizio Cellerini
Maestri Disney
Message 178 -
1997-01-18 at 18:27:41
Arthur De Wolf:
> There! Maestri Disney is most likely the new comicbook that you
> were talking about!
Thanks for the info, Arthur. That's exactly what I was talking about.
Great to know it is starting from this month !
Too bad it will not be a monthly .
If it is as I hope, it might even surpass "Zio Paperone" in my personal
favourite comics' ranking !:-)
I really hope this is going to be the comic book we all Italian Disney
comics fans long awaited.
More news as soon as I have a copy in my hands...
BTW, what is "CopyWrite" ? Does it always have such a detailed comic
section ?
Bye,
Fabrizio.
> There! Maestri Disney is most likely the new comicbook that you
> were talking about!
Thanks for the info, Arthur. That's exactly what I was talking about.
Great to know it is starting from this month !
Too bad it will not be a monthly .
If it is as I hope, it might even surpass "Zio Paperone" in my personal
favourite comics' ranking !:-)
I really hope this is going to be the comic book we all Italian Disney
comics fans long awaited.
More news as soon as I have a copy in my hands...
BTW, what is "CopyWrite" ? Does it always have such a detailed comic
section ?
Bye,
Fabrizio.
Kristian Thougaard Pedersen
Nephews bumping into each other
Message 179 -
1997-01-18 at 18:47:23
Regarding the recent discussion of Barks panels with nephews
panicking and bumping into each other, I'm 99 % sure that
there is one such panel in the story in which Donald and the
kids go diving for pearls (ca. 1946). Donald is captured in
a giant clam, and the kids start panicking when they realize
he is stuck.
This story was my first encounter with Mexican jumping
beans, by the way. Do they REALLY jump...?
Kristian P.
panicking and bumping into each other, I'm 99 % sure that
there is one such panel in the story in which Donald and the
kids go diving for pearls (ca. 1946). Donald is captured in
a giant clam, and the kids start panicking when they realize
he is stuck.
This story was my first encounter with Mexican jumping
beans, by the way. Do they REALLY jump...?
Kristian P.
Bimbo
Mary Jane & Sniffles
Message 180 -
1997-01-18 at 20:45:31
Were these characters in Disney comic books?
Mary Jane (a blond little girl). Sniffles (a mouse).
"Magic world of piff-piff-piffles...make me just as small as Sniffles."
I'm not an actress, although I play one on television ;-]'
(Email removed)
TEMPE AZ USA
Mary Jane (a blond little girl). Sniffles (a mouse).
"Magic world of piff-piff-piffles...make me just as small as Sniffles."
I'm not an actress, although I play one on television ;-]'
(Email removed)
TEMPE AZ USA