Hi,
I talked with Ulrich Schroder today and here is a quick update about his
version of King $crooge the 1st.
Unfortunately, Ulrich told me that he is pretty sure that the 3 or 4
original pages he once drew for that story were distroyed in a fire that
hurt his parents' place.
He might one day restart the project, but now his priority is a pirate
story written by Byron and I think inked by Daan Jippes.
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Author
Topic: 199701
(301 messages)
Didier Ghez
King $crooge the 1st
Message 211 -
1997-01-21 at 16:03:39
Marco Barlotti
Mutations in upcoming Italian Disney comics
Message 212 -
1997-01-21 at 20:37:46
As I wrote last time, there is (as far as I know) complete silence on
Italian Disney comics now on sale about the upcoming "Maestri Disney" new
bi-monthly.
BUT!
On this week's "Topolino", two-pages-two advertise the upcoming new
<Winnie-the-Pooh> Disney feature "tender as honey" <on sale since next
February>!
Arthur, was this in your magazine? Does anyone know about it?
(The advertisment seems to suggest it's a new comic book, BUT it might as
well be a one-shot, or a book-plus-audiotape or anything!)
Marco
Italian Disney comics now on sale about the upcoming "Maestri Disney" new
bi-monthly.
BUT!
On this week's "Topolino", two-pages-two advertise the upcoming new
<Winnie-the-Pooh> Disney feature "tender as honey" <on sale since next
February>!
Arthur, was this in your magazine? Does anyone know about it?
(The advertisment seems to suggest it's a new comic book, BUT it might as
well be a one-shot, or a book-plus-audiotape or anything!)
Marco
David Gerstein
Retouched/banned stories, etc.
Message 213 -
1997-01-21 at 21:02:14
BYRON:
You referred to "some of the banned stories like "Darkest Africa"
(where Disney had ordered all the proofs destroyed years earlier)"...
The three "controversial" stories to which proofs were missing were
"Darkest Africa", "Race to the South Seas" (both of which actually exist in
the original form in Italy), and "DD's Atom Bomb". Were *all* of these
stories ordered to be destroyed?
For whatever it's worth, Jippes' redrawn "South Seas" seems to
match the original in every way (no censorship of content at all). No
censorship in Disney Comics' 1992 printing, aside from *one* panel (the
word "massa" changed to "boss"). The 1983 Abbeville version (using the
muddy Italian proofs to Barks' original) is hacked up as was Abbeville's
wont, but the natives are unchanged. The story has never been strongly
censored in reprint, so who would have found it objectionable enough to
destroy it?
Regarding "The Smugsnorkle Squatty":
"(And by the way, did anyone notice that "new" half-page?)"
Yep. I noticed that the lettering was a different thickness than
in the surrounding panels. I figured you had taken some existing foreign
proofs and relettered them to insert the sequence.
Now I'll bring up two similar situations:
WDC&S 42 "Kite Weather", page 6 (bottom half) is plainly reinked in
the CBL set VII. In all Egmont printings I've seen, this half-page is
missing, so I guess you got your material on the story from the same source
as them, and had to restore the missing part. Meanwhile, WDC&S 87 ("The
Terrible Turkey"), pages 3, 5, and 6 are also reinked in CBL VII -- almost
looks like Van Horn might have done the reinking (the nephews look like his
work). In this case I've never seen an Egmont printing of the story.
But Egmont aside, as regards both WDC&S 42 and 87, Oberon's Dutch
printings have always used the unrestored, original versions of this stuff.
What happened?
EVERYONE:
I guess I ought to mention that I'm going to be having a signing of
UNCLE SCROOGE ADVENTURES 44 (with my "Two in One") and my Felix the Cat
book, NINE LIVES TO LIVE, at Metro Comics here in Santa Barbara on
Saturday.
I don't know if it's proper etiquette to announce one's own signing
oneself, but I've never had a signing before, so I guess I don't know!
Anyway, I'd just like to invite any Digesteers who might be in the
region to come on over and join me! Metro's address is 15 W. Anapamu St.
here in town, and Anapamu's easy to find -- it crosses our main street,
State Street, at the 1200 block. I don't know who among us lives in the
Southern California region, or how far from Santa Barbara, but anyway...
That's all for now!
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
You referred to "some of the banned stories like "Darkest Africa"
(where Disney had ordered all the proofs destroyed years earlier)"...
The three "controversial" stories to which proofs were missing were
"Darkest Africa", "Race to the South Seas" (both of which actually exist in
the original form in Italy), and "DD's Atom Bomb". Were *all* of these
stories ordered to be destroyed?
For whatever it's worth, Jippes' redrawn "South Seas" seems to
match the original in every way (no censorship of content at all). No
censorship in Disney Comics' 1992 printing, aside from *one* panel (the
word "massa" changed to "boss"). The 1983 Abbeville version (using the
muddy Italian proofs to Barks' original) is hacked up as was Abbeville's
wont, but the natives are unchanged. The story has never been strongly
censored in reprint, so who would have found it objectionable enough to
destroy it?
Regarding "The Smugsnorkle Squatty":
"(And by the way, did anyone notice that "new" half-page?)"
Yep. I noticed that the lettering was a different thickness than
in the surrounding panels. I figured you had taken some existing foreign
proofs and relettered them to insert the sequence.
Now I'll bring up two similar situations:
WDC&S 42 "Kite Weather", page 6 (bottom half) is plainly reinked in
the CBL set VII. In all Egmont printings I've seen, this half-page is
missing, so I guess you got your material on the story from the same source
as them, and had to restore the missing part. Meanwhile, WDC&S 87 ("The
Terrible Turkey"), pages 3, 5, and 6 are also reinked in CBL VII -- almost
looks like Van Horn might have done the reinking (the nephews look like his
work). In this case I've never seen an Egmont printing of the story.
But Egmont aside, as regards both WDC&S 42 and 87, Oberon's Dutch
printings have always used the unrestored, original versions of this stuff.
What happened?
EVERYONE:
I guess I ought to mention that I'm going to be having a signing of
UNCLE SCROOGE ADVENTURES 44 (with my "Two in One") and my Felix the Cat
book, NINE LIVES TO LIVE, at Metro Comics here in Santa Barbara on
Saturday.
I don't know if it's proper etiquette to announce one's own signing
oneself, but I've never had a signing before, so I guess I don't know!
Anyway, I'd just like to invite any Digesteers who might be in the
region to come on over and join me! Metro's address is 15 W. Anapamu St.
here in town, and Anapamu's easy to find -- it crosses our main street,
State Street, at the 1200 block. I don't know who among us lives in the
Southern California region, or how far from Santa Barbara, but anyway...
That's all for now!
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Christy Padgett
Disney comics Digest V97 #17
Message 214 -
1997-01-21 at 21:09:00
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>Disney comics Digest Volume 97 : Issue 17
>
>Contents:
> (Email removed) Re: Where is Duckburg?
> Shaun M. Knowler ???
> Eric Chun Re: Disney comics Digest V97 #15
> (Email removed) Re: Mary Jane and Sniffles
> (Email removed) re: Duckburg in California
> Tobias Welz Bees wanted!!!
> Byron Erickson Yet another opinionated ^%@#*
> Daniel van Eijmeren Camel-story, CBL-changes, bumping nephews
> Marco Barlotti Maestri Disney
> Didier Ghez Balthazar Picsou
> Harry Fluks Short questions and answers
> Harry Fluks [Hans Crezee:] taliaferro sunday page collection
> Harry Fluks Erickson
> Nils Lid Hjort August Strindberg etc.
> Nils Lid Hjort banning, redrawing: questions
> Dan Shane Re: Disney comics Digest V97 #15
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 14:18:05 -0700
>From: (Email removed)
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Re: Where is Duckburg?
>
>On Jan 19, 10:39am, Alipio d'Oliveira Coelho wrote:
>> Subject: Where is Duckburg?
>
>> I allways think Duckburg was in California. But there are a lot of
>> stories in Duckburg with snow!! (Donald Duck in: Duck out of Luck -
>WDCS
>> 294; DD in: Statues of Limitations - WDCS 196; DD in: Rip van Donald
>- WDCS
>> 112, etc.). Does snow in California?
>>
>Yes. California is a very big state, and stretches a great
>distance from north to south, so there are a number of
>different climate zones. In southern California, where
>Los Angeles is, snow is pretty rare, though you can see
>it in the higher elevations of the mountains surrounding LA.
>I think Barks tended to place Duckburg wherever he thought
>it would make a good story. There are stories where Duckburg
>has palm trees, for instance (well, at least one).
>
>--Dwight Decker
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:18:26 -0700 (MST)
>From: "Shaun M. Knowler" <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: ???
>
>DON:
>I've had this burning question running through my mind for years
>now...and I've plum run outta people to ask...so maybe possibly you could
>answer it: What was Lucas McCain's deceased wife's maiden name?
>
>-Shaun "concerned for his favorite artist's sanity" Knowler
>
>:)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 19 Jan 97 19:01:24 PST
>From: (Email removed) (Eric Chun)
>To: (Email removed)
>Cc: (Email removed)
>Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V97 #15
>
>HARRY:
>>The dates when Barks delivered the stories to his editor are also
>>in Michael Barrier's book (CB and the Art of the Comic Book). Are
>>these the dates you are talking about?
>
>Sounds like the same dates. Haven't read CB and the Art of the
>Comic Book yet, unfortunately.
>
>ALIPIO:
>>I allways think Duckburg was in California. But there are a lot of
>>stories in Duckburg with snow!! (Donald Duck in: Duck out of Luck
>>- WDCS 294; DD in: Statues of Limitations - WDCS 196; DD in: Rip
>>van Donald - WDCS 112, etc.). Does snow in California?
>
>Yes, it does snow in certain parts of California.
>
>See ya later.
>
>Eric
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 00:04:45 -0500 (EST)
>From: (Email removed)
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Re: Mary Jane and Sniffles
>
>In a message dated 97-01-19 15:00:24 EST, you write:
>
><< I'm sure there are experts on this ML who can
> correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Mary Jane was a creation
> for the comic books, perhaps to give Sniffles somebody to talk
> to. That is, you won't find any animated cartoons that resemble
> the Mary Jane and Sniffles comic strips in the Looney Tunes
> comic books. Which is a shame, because the comic strips are
> more interesting than the actual Sniffles cartoons, and could
> have been the basis for a charming series of 'toons. >>
>
>Mary jane was created by Whitman (and Disney) editor, Chase Craig, who wrote
>and drew the first two or three stories (before turning the art over to I
>recall Roger Armstrong), Mary Jane Craig was Chase's wife. Yes, they're
>alot better than the cartoons.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 00:04:56 -0500 (EST)
>From: (Email removed)
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: re: Duckburg in California
>
>In a message dated 97-01-19 15:00:24 EST, you write:
>
><< I allways think Duckburg was in California. But there are a lot of
> stories in Duckburg with snow!! (Donald Duck in: Duck out of Luck - WDCS
> 294; DD in: Statues of Limitations - WDCS 196; DD in: Rip van Donald - WDCS
> 112, etc.). Does snow in California?
>
> Alipio Coelho >>
>
>In the Mountains near LA, I believe they get snow.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 11:12:06 +0100
>From: Tobias Welz <(Email removed)>
>To: Disney mailinglist <(Email removed)>
>Subject: Bees wanted!!!
>
>Hello folks,
>
>my name is Tobias Welz and I am a 25 years old
>engineer-student in Constance/Germany.
>
>I subscribed to this mailing-list to get some help in
>searching a special disney-character in the web. I
>hope that I'm in the right place for help on that
>subject!!! Otherwise I'm sorry about my disturbance.
>
>Now my problem:
>Does anybody know the classic comic strip with Donald
>in his appartment on top of a skyscraper???
>He has a little greenhouse there where he breeds
>flowers. Then the character I'm searching for appears:
>a little cute bee which likes to smell the flowers.
>Suddenly a fight accrues between Donald and the bee.
>In the progression of the fight, Donald gets twinged
>by the bee...
>
>I am searching for any kind of pictures of this bee or
> other Disney-bees!!!
>
>Please mail me your informations, hints or anything
>else...
>
>Greetings from Germany,
> Tobse.
>
>--
> -----------------------------------------------------
>|Tobias Welz , E-Mail: (Email removed) |
>|Fachhochschule Konstanz, Germany |
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 11:38:16 +0000
>From: Byron Erickson <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Yet another opinionated ^%@#*
>
>JAKOB SOEDERBAUM
>
>
> [About the CBL]
> >> Let's say that the CBL prints about 99 percent of Barks' original
>art,
> > > just to give an idea.
>
>> I don't have the complete collection, but I heard that it's only *90%* of
>> the Library that is Barks original art. There's really much redrawn (and/or
>> censored)...
>
>DISCLAIMER: The following is *not* an attack on anyone -- it's just my
>opinion, and I certainly won't think anyone who disagrees with me is a
>lousy excuse for a human being. I'll think you're *wrong*, but what the
>heck -- it's a well-known fact that I'm always right (in my own twisted
>mind, anyway).
>
>I was closely involved in putting together the original CBL (my name's
>in the books, anyway, with a whole bunch of changing job titles), but I
>certainly don't remember the percentage of "original" to "redrawn" art.
>
>What I do remember is that we used original proofs whenever we could get
>them, and that was almost all of the time. The exceptions were some of
>the banned stories like "Darkest Africa" (where Disney had ordered all
>the proofs destroyed years earlier), or a story like the ten-pager from
>WDC&S 70 (the Smugsnorkle Squatty story). In the latter case, Western
>Publishing had *thrown away* a half-page of artwork when the story was
>reprinted in WDC&S 305, so we were forced to shoot from the original
>comic (filtering out the color), and retouch what was left -- in
>essence, "redrawing" it the same way Jippes "redrew" "Darkest Africa."
>(And by the way, did anyone notice that "new" half-page?)
>
>Other "non-original" pages in the CBL were censored pages we restored to
>stories (like "Back to the Klondike") -- the idea was to present the
>stories as Barks had intended. That's why some unpublished Barks pages
>were *not* put back into stories (the "ray-that-turns-living-
>things-into-stone" story from US 8, for example) -- Barks himself had
>removed them so their inclusion would have been contrary to his intent.
>
>But you know what? If you want to get anal about it, EVERY SINGLE PAGE
>OF BARKS ART IN THE CBL WAS RETOUCHED. In fact, my first job at Another
>Rainbow involved using a brush and a bottle of white-out to remove flaws
>on the proofs. And a lot of times, we had to touch up (redraw) the lines
>to keep them from disappearing in printing. But so what?
>
>I'm very proud that I was part of putting together the CBL; proud
>because we went to a lot of trouble to preserve Barks' life's work as
>faithfully as possible. Naturally, it could not be an exact duplication
>of exactly what Barks drew, given Disney censorship ("Donald Duck's Atom
>Bomb", for example) and lousy or missing proofs in some cases.
>
>I can certainly understand people being disappointed at not getting a
>banned story in it's original form. But I have a hard time understanding
>complaints about "redrawn" art. When everything important (like the
>story, the layout, the position of the character, the facial
>expressions, etc. etc.) is original, and the only change is the exact
>thickness of a line a fraction of a millimeter long, what's the problem?
>
>But for those of you who think it *is* a problem, all I can say is that
>you really should step back and look at the forest. It's a much more
>pleasant view than that knothole on the the third tree to the left that
>you've got your nose buried in.
>
>
>> BYRON:
>
>> Ya big palooka! WHY ON EARTH DIDN'T YOU SHOW UP AS PROMISED AT SVENSKA
>> MAESSAN IN THE END OF OCTOBER???!!!! I bought *expensive* tickets to go
>> there and see you, but there were no Byron to be seen anywhere!! I heard
>> from someone you had decided against coming after all! I *demand* a *good*
>> explanation for this!
>
>The problem was, *I* promised *nothing*! I found out only *after* the
>program book was printed that I was listed as a guest. In fact, I
>was only invited to attend a couple of weeks before the fair (an
>oversight, I was assured), and at that point I had other things on my
>schedule that made attending impossible. So I declined the invitation.
>
>But I'm certainly flattered that you went all that way to see li'l ol'
>me! And I don't believe it for one second!
>
>-- Byron "I just like to *read* a good comic book story" Erickson
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 14:30:53
>From: Daniel van Eijmeren <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Camel-story, CBL-changes, bumping nephews
>
>I've sent this letter yesterday, but somehow it didn't show up (at least
>not to all members). I've asked Per about it and his advice was to send
>the letter again, so here it is:
>
>
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>Date sent: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 01:12:05
>From: Daniel van Eijmeren
>To: Disney-Comics
>Subject: Camel-story, CBL-changes, bumping nephews
>
>
>HARRY FLUKS, 17-01-1997:
>
>> it could also have been Barks himself who decided to change the facial
>> expressions on the last moment. I remember one WDC story (about a camel
>> and uranium) where Donald gets Christmas presents, and has a strange
>> smile on his face. Obviously, he didn't look happy at all originally,
>> but Barks must have decided that that would be too ungrateful. The
>> "apologising" expressions in the "Toyland" story might have been a
>> similar thing?
>
>I've checked the camel-story (WDC 160), but I don't know which panel you
>mean. See my previous post for a rather extended theory on what might have
>happened with "Toyland".
>
>
>JAKOB SODERBAUM, 16-01-1997:
>
>> I don't have the complete collection, but I heard that it's only *90%*
>> of the Library that is Barks original art. There's really much redrawn
>> (and/or censored)...
>
>Do you have any additions to my list of CBL-changes? (This list will soon
>be updated with all the information which has been posted here recently.)
>
>
>KRISTIAN PEDERSEN, 18-01-1997:
>
>> Regarding the recent discussion of Barks panels with nephews panicking
>> and bumping into each other, I'm 99 % sure that there is one such panel
>> in the story in which Donald and the kids go diving for pearls
>
>Make it 100 % sure. I've checked the story (WDC 97) and it does indeed
>have this panel.
>
>
>Greetings,
>
>--- Daniel
>
>
> "Hooray! I'm cured! My mind doesn't hurt anymore!"
>
> The Mad Musician, OG 11 --- Carl Barks
>
>
>
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- End of forwarded message -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 15:02:38 +0100
>From: Marco Barlotti <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Maestri Disney
>
>> Marco, didn't Lidia Cannatella talk about this when she called you ?
>
>Not a single word. Anyway, it looks like these monographs will mainly be
>devoted to ITALIAN Disney artistas, doesn't it? So I guess Lidia is PERFECT
>for the job!
>
>> Below is an article from the december issue
>>of "CopyWrite". I'll write it all down:
>>
>> "Disney Italy announces several new innovative magazines
>
>Arthur! I'm getting afraid there's no hope you can keep up with so many
>Italian Disney Comics :-)
>
>
>
>> This month, a new bi-monthly magazine entitled Ridi Topolino was
>>launched containing a collection of funny stories (70%), jokes, games
>>and tests. The magazine targets children aged seven to ten and has a cover
>>price of L4000.
>
>This month? Which? I have asked my newsdealer, and he knew nothing!
>
>> Maestri Disney, a new magazine for collectors will be introduced in
>>January 1997.
>
>And again, isn't it sort of strange that, say, "Zio Paperone" (January
>issue, on sale since January 15th), doesn't have a line of advertisment for
>this?
>
>Anyway, we're hopefully waiting! Certainly it sounds very very good!
> Marco
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 10:10:57 -0500
>From: Didier Ghez <(Email removed)>
>To: Disney Comics <(Email removed)>
>Subject: Balthazar Picsou
>
>Hi,
>
>DAVID:
>
>Here is the story of $crooge's French name.
>
>First to answer your question as to why Picsou is the only one to be called
>by his last name two reasons were given to me by the experts:
>
>He is a business man and calling him by his surname is more serious and
>most respectfull than calling him by his first name.
>
>Also (and that is whithout a doubt the real, historical reason, even if it
>has a lot more to do with the real world than with the imaginary world):
>Picsou has been called by two different names and two different surnames
>before getting his final name and the one that stuck was Picsou as it was
>the funniest and the one that described best his character (Picsou is a pun
>meaning "who steal coins").
>
>He received his first name Balthazar only in the early '70s. It was Michel
>Mandry, editor of the Journal de Mickey at the time who gave that first
>name to him when Picsou Magazine was launched. It was chosen as it was rare
>and rich. It was also an hommage to one of the three wise kings. Michel,
>by the way is the friend who provided all of the following info.
>
>The first time $crooge appeared in France was in the Summer of 1949 in the
>number 15 of the series "Les Belles Histoires de Walt Disney" (published by
>Hachette). It was in the story Donald et le Secret du Donjon (Donald Duck
>in the Old Castle's Secret - 4 Coulour 189). $crooge was called Oncle
>Harpagon.
>
>In number 66 (January 11, 1952) of Mickey Magazine, published in Belgium,
>$crooge was called Oncle Jeremie McDuck.
>
>In number 258 (March 2, 1952) of Hardi presente Donald, published in
>France, $crooge was called Oncle Edgar.
>
>In number 30 (December 21, 1952) of Le Journal de Mickey, published in
>France, $crooge is called for the first time Picsou.
>It's Raymond Calame who was the editor of Lectures pour Tous and Hardi
>presente Donald and was also in charge of comics for Le Journal de Mickey
>who found his name. Making a pun on the character's personality.
>
>In 1972, when Picsou Magazine was launched, sponsored by the French bank
>Credit Lyonnais, the commercial department of that bank realised only at
>the last minute what the name meant and the decided to remain discreet
>during the launch !
>
>The idea of giving him a first name appeared to make Picsou more "human".
>But Picsou, in 20 years, was already too well known and could not be
>changed as the name by which everybody called $crooge.
>
>We should add that Flairsou (Rocker Duck) is also called by his surname,
>his first name (also invented by Michel) being Cresus.
>
>I hope this answers your question.
>
>Didier
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:31:15 +-100
>From: Harry Fluks <(Email removed)>
>To: "(Email removed)" <(Email removed)>
>Subject: Short questions and answers
>
>AARON ALDRIDGE:
>> my two main interests, law and duck comics, come together in Air Pirates
>
>What is Air Pirates?
>
>
>DANIEL VAN EIJMEREN:
>> I've checked the camel-story (WDC 160), but I don't know which panel you
>> mean.
>
>The second panel of the story. Where Donald looks at the Christmas
presents, summing up
>what he got.
>
>
>PER STARBACK:
>> So Harry received it?
>
>I don't know where Daniel got that idea, but I *didn't* receive his message
>yesterday. But it *was* very quiet yesterday (sunday). For instance, I haven't
>seen a message from Don Rosa.
>
>--Harry.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:21:36 +-100
>From: Harry Fluks <(Email removed)>
>To: "'dc'" <(Email removed)>
>Subject: [Hans Crezee:] taliaferro sunday page collection
>
>[The following message was sent to me privately. Either Hans forgot to put
>the Mailing List's address, or he had problems because he's no member of the
>List. Anyway, here it is --Harry.]
>
>----------
>Van: Hans Crezee[SMTP:(Email removed)]
>Subject: Re: taliaferro sunday page collection
>
>Hello you guys
>
>I'm Hans Crezee, and have been collecting DD and MM for about 25 years.
>I thought I should add a note on the following
>
>> > > There is a Taliaferro-Sunday-page collection in German.
>> > There's also one in Sweden. Or *was* some years ago. There were three
>> > albums/pockets published of the years 1938-40 (or something). Nothing too
>> > special though, IMO. But I'd *love* to see it in English...
>
>All these Taliaferro reprints seem to be based on an Italian volume
>published in the seventies, containing all of his DD sunday pages from 1936
>to the mid 1940's. The title was something with '365 something with DD'
>(My Italian isn't that great).
>The reason I think all other volumes are based on this book is because
>not all sunday pages are present, and oddly enough, all other collections
>are missing exactly the same pages. All these collections claim to be
>complete, but they aren't!
>That was a very annoying discovery, as I was using this volume to date
>1930's European reprints of Taliaferro's DD, and was left with '?' marks
>in my files.
>
>Hans Crezee
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:49:08 +-100
>From: Harry Fluks <(Email removed)>
>To: "(Email removed)" <(Email removed)>
>Subject: Erickson
>
>> we were forced to shoot from the original
>> comic (filtering out the color), and retouch what was left -- in
>> essence, "redrawing" it the same way Jippes "redrew" "Darkest Africa."
>
>I think there's an essential difference. When Jippes redrew a story, he started
>from scratch on an all-white paper. So every line is his. In many cases
>(or so he said), he had to *guess* the contents of a Barks panel, because the
>xeroxes he worked from were very dark. So his redrawings are far further from
>the original Barks drawings than the restorings you are talking about. (I'm
>not saying anything about the amount of effort done in both cases!)
>
>When a story's art is not close to the original, for whatever reason, we
like to know.
>For instance, most of the story "Darkest Africa" you mention, was *not* redrawn
>by Daan Jippes, but by Dick Vlottes, who was less experienced with drawing
>Ducks. And it shows. Some panels look terrible. In this case it's good to
know that
>those drawings were *not* the original Barks drawings.
>
>So it's good to have a list of changes in Barks' artwork in the CBL. Not
every tiny
>change, of course. Personally, I don't think the re-inserting of previously
censored
>artwork needs to be mentioned in the list. But a re-inking of entire
stories (Africa),
>censoring, or change of facial expressions (Toyland) should be noted.
>
>Making a list of them is not a judgement for the makers of the CBL. But
it's a lead for
>the Barks-fan who wants all the original Barks-lines. And it's a help for
scholars who
>study Barks' artwork.
>
>--Harry.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 20:46:10 +0100
>From: Nils Lid Hjort <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: August Strindberg etc.
>
>Harry Fluks (digest #15) has been "wondering who or what Strindberg is".
>On this occasion your level of wondering cannot have been very actively
>engaged, Harry: perhaps 8,310,000 Swedes have already phoned in to
>tell you this, but (Johan) August Strindberg (1849-1912) was/is a (world)
>famous playwright (and novelist). In Scandinavia I would say he is second
>only to Henrik (Johan) Ibsen. (Try "The Red Room" or "Miss Julie"
>(with French and not Swedish pronunciation in the title!).)
>
>He had a somewhat unpredictable mood, I gather (at least from 1869 onwards,
>after failing the entrance examination to the Royal Theatre of Stockholm),
>but perhaps he takes some pride (I feel present tense is appropriate here)
>in lending his name to the email-address of this distinguished literary
>analysis group. (And "ling.uu.se", since Harry wonders, must mean something
>like the linguistic department? at the University of Uppsala, in Sweden.)
>
>This footnote contribution to a footnote discussion was triggered by
>Don's making "(Email removed)" eternal via his latest Duck story.
>Of course "iglou" is the dative form of the Eskimo word "igloo",
>as when offering something to an igloo ("Don gave the iglou an icebear").
>
>Staying with Sweden and Don Rosa: delightful story about the Swedish Kalla
>Ankas #2-10 that you are lending out to the Lekmuseet! I'm two bits
>surprised that this dealer-of-the-old-school you describe didn't sense
>in his bones that pristine mint KAs #1-10 were indeed more valuable than
>20 dollars.
>
>Nils Lid Hjort
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 22:03:35 +0100
>From: Nils Lid Hjort <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: banning, redrawing: questions
>
>There have been recent discussions here about redrawing occasions of Barks
>art in the CB Library/CB Library in Color. Byron Erickson and others
>have been explaining relevant reasons and aspects of this.
>Two questions:
>
>Is there a list somewhere (hopefully a short one) of the instances
>where the _originally published art_ (which in this context is 1.5 nuances
>away from being the same as Barks' original art) was (CBL)/is (the ongoing
>CBLinC) _changed_ (which is 8.3 nuances away from being the same as
>redrawn/retouched)? The most famous example would be the ending panel
>of the Atom Bomb story (where the 1947 panel is _very different_,
>also in character, from what is in CBL/CBLinC). Is this the only
>_drastic_ example?
>
>Secondly: Byron E. says that Disney _ordered the proofs destroyed_
>for some of the "banned stories", like Darkest Africa (1948).
>Surprising & amazing. Ordering destruction is of course much much more
>drastic and stalinistic than asking the proofs "not to be used again".
>
>(a) What is the (current) list of such "banned Barks" stories/parts of
>stories? I say "current" since some stories _have been_ banned but has
>later been published widely (Darkest Africa).
>
>(b) Who has the executing power to say "ban this" & "deban that"
>(except the Pope)? Are _reasons_ given for the decisions? Do we know
>the extent to which such decisions were actually _debated_ (pros and cons)
>in the appropriate fora?
>
>(c) Who had the actual power to destroy proofs? I'm trying to imagine
>in my mind a typical secretary at work, destroying proofs of
>Darkest Africa -- was there a sense of a Historical Moment briefly
>touching her(him) during the autodafe? It's all in a day's work, of course...
>
>Nils Lid Hjort
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 16:58:40 -0500
>From: "Dan Shane" <(Email removed)>
>To: <(Email removed)>
>Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V97 #15
>
>HARRY:
>
>IGLOU stands for Internet Gateway of Louisville. It's simply a play on
>words. Most people recognize an igloo as an ice house built by natives who
>live near the Arctic Circle in North America.
>
>--------------------------------
>End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #17
>*****************************************
>
>
Christy Padgett
"Padge"
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>
>Disney comics Digest Volume 97 : Issue 17
>
>Contents:
> (Email removed) Re: Where is Duckburg?
> Shaun M. Knowler ???
> Eric Chun Re: Disney comics Digest V97 #15
> (Email removed) Re: Mary Jane and Sniffles
> (Email removed) re: Duckburg in California
> Tobias Welz Bees wanted!!!
> Byron Erickson Yet another opinionated ^%@#*
> Daniel van Eijmeren Camel-story, CBL-changes, bumping nephews
> Marco Barlotti Maestri Disney
> Didier Ghez Balthazar Picsou
> Harry Fluks Short questions and answers
> Harry Fluks [Hans Crezee:] taliaferro sunday page collection
> Harry Fluks Erickson
> Nils Lid Hjort August Strindberg etc.
> Nils Lid Hjort banning, redrawing: questions
> Dan Shane Re: Disney comics Digest V97 #15
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 14:18:05 -0700
>From: (Email removed)
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Re: Where is Duckburg?
>
>On Jan 19, 10:39am, Alipio d'Oliveira Coelho wrote:
>> Subject: Where is Duckburg?
>
>> I allways think Duckburg was in California. But there are a lot of
>> stories in Duckburg with snow!! (Donald Duck in: Duck out of Luck -
>WDCS
>> 294; DD in: Statues of Limitations - WDCS 196; DD in: Rip van Donald
>- WDCS
>> 112, etc.). Does snow in California?
>>
>Yes. California is a very big state, and stretches a great
>distance from north to south, so there are a number of
>different climate zones. In southern California, where
>Los Angeles is, snow is pretty rare, though you can see
>it in the higher elevations of the mountains surrounding LA.
>I think Barks tended to place Duckburg wherever he thought
>it would make a good story. There are stories where Duckburg
>has palm trees, for instance (well, at least one).
>
>--Dwight Decker
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:18:26 -0700 (MST)
>From: "Shaun M. Knowler" <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: ???
>
>DON:
>I've had this burning question running through my mind for years
>now...and I've plum run outta people to ask...so maybe possibly you could
>answer it: What was Lucas McCain's deceased wife's maiden name?
>
>-Shaun "concerned for his favorite artist's sanity" Knowler
>
>:)
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Sun, 19 Jan 97 19:01:24 PST
>From: (Email removed) (Eric Chun)
>To: (Email removed)
>Cc: (Email removed)
>Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V97 #15
>
>HARRY:
>>The dates when Barks delivered the stories to his editor are also
>>in Michael Barrier's book (CB and the Art of the Comic Book). Are
>>these the dates you are talking about?
>
>Sounds like the same dates. Haven't read CB and the Art of the
>Comic Book yet, unfortunately.
>
>ALIPIO:
>>I allways think Duckburg was in California. But there are a lot of
>>stories in Duckburg with snow!! (Donald Duck in: Duck out of Luck
>>- WDCS 294; DD in: Statues of Limitations - WDCS 196; DD in: Rip
>>van Donald - WDCS 112, etc.). Does snow in California?
>
>Yes, it does snow in certain parts of California.
>
>See ya later.
>
>Eric
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 00:04:45 -0500 (EST)
>From: (Email removed)
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Re: Mary Jane and Sniffles
>
>In a message dated 97-01-19 15:00:24 EST, you write:
>
><< I'm sure there are experts on this ML who can
> correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Mary Jane was a creation
> for the comic books, perhaps to give Sniffles somebody to talk
> to. That is, you won't find any animated cartoons that resemble
> the Mary Jane and Sniffles comic strips in the Looney Tunes
> comic books. Which is a shame, because the comic strips are
> more interesting than the actual Sniffles cartoons, and could
> have been the basis for a charming series of 'toons. >>
>
>Mary jane was created by Whitman (and Disney) editor, Chase Craig, who wrote
>and drew the first two or three stories (before turning the art over to I
>recall Roger Armstrong), Mary Jane Craig was Chase's wife. Yes, they're
>alot better than the cartoons.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 00:04:56 -0500 (EST)
>From: (Email removed)
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: re: Duckburg in California
>
>In a message dated 97-01-19 15:00:24 EST, you write:
>
><< I allways think Duckburg was in California. But there are a lot of
> stories in Duckburg with snow!! (Donald Duck in: Duck out of Luck - WDCS
> 294; DD in: Statues of Limitations - WDCS 196; DD in: Rip van Donald - WDCS
> 112, etc.). Does snow in California?
>
> Alipio Coelho >>
>
>In the Mountains near LA, I believe they get snow.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 11:12:06 +0100
>From: Tobias Welz <(Email removed)>
>To: Disney mailinglist <(Email removed)>
>Subject: Bees wanted!!!
>
>Hello folks,
>
>my name is Tobias Welz and I am a 25 years old
>engineer-student in Constance/Germany.
>
>I subscribed to this mailing-list to get some help in
>searching a special disney-character in the web. I
>hope that I'm in the right place for help on that
>subject!!! Otherwise I'm sorry about my disturbance.
>
>Now my problem:
>Does anybody know the classic comic strip with Donald
>in his appartment on top of a skyscraper???
>He has a little greenhouse there where he breeds
>flowers. Then the character I'm searching for appears:
>a little cute bee which likes to smell the flowers.
>Suddenly a fight accrues between Donald and the bee.
>In the progression of the fight, Donald gets twinged
>by the bee...
>
>I am searching for any kind of pictures of this bee or
> other Disney-bees!!!
>
>Please mail me your informations, hints or anything
>else...
>
>Greetings from Germany,
> Tobse.
>
>--
> -----------------------------------------------------
>|Tobias Welz , E-Mail: (Email removed) |
>|Fachhochschule Konstanz, Germany |
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 11:38:16 +0000
>From: Byron Erickson <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Yet another opinionated ^%@#*
>
>JAKOB SOEDERBAUM
>
>
> [About the CBL]
> >> Let's say that the CBL prints about 99 percent of Barks' original
>art,
> > > just to give an idea.
>
>> I don't have the complete collection, but I heard that it's only *90%* of
>> the Library that is Barks original art. There's really much redrawn (and/or
>> censored)...
>
>DISCLAIMER: The following is *not* an attack on anyone -- it's just my
>opinion, and I certainly won't think anyone who disagrees with me is a
>lousy excuse for a human being. I'll think you're *wrong*, but what the
>heck -- it's a well-known fact that I'm always right (in my own twisted
>mind, anyway).
>
>I was closely involved in putting together the original CBL (my name's
>in the books, anyway, with a whole bunch of changing job titles), but I
>certainly don't remember the percentage of "original" to "redrawn" art.
>
>What I do remember is that we used original proofs whenever we could get
>them, and that was almost all of the time. The exceptions were some of
>the banned stories like "Darkest Africa" (where Disney had ordered all
>the proofs destroyed years earlier), or a story like the ten-pager from
>WDC&S 70 (the Smugsnorkle Squatty story). In the latter case, Western
>Publishing had *thrown away* a half-page of artwork when the story was
>reprinted in WDC&S 305, so we were forced to shoot from the original
>comic (filtering out the color), and retouch what was left -- in
>essence, "redrawing" it the same way Jippes "redrew" "Darkest Africa."
>(And by the way, did anyone notice that "new" half-page?)
>
>Other "non-original" pages in the CBL were censored pages we restored to
>stories (like "Back to the Klondike") -- the idea was to present the
>stories as Barks had intended. That's why some unpublished Barks pages
>were *not* put back into stories (the "ray-that-turns-living-
>things-into-stone" story from US 8, for example) -- Barks himself had
>removed them so their inclusion would have been contrary to his intent.
>
>But you know what? If you want to get anal about it, EVERY SINGLE PAGE
>OF BARKS ART IN THE CBL WAS RETOUCHED. In fact, my first job at Another
>Rainbow involved using a brush and a bottle of white-out to remove flaws
>on the proofs. And a lot of times, we had to touch up (redraw) the lines
>to keep them from disappearing in printing. But so what?
>
>I'm very proud that I was part of putting together the CBL; proud
>because we went to a lot of trouble to preserve Barks' life's work as
>faithfully as possible. Naturally, it could not be an exact duplication
>of exactly what Barks drew, given Disney censorship ("Donald Duck's Atom
>Bomb", for example) and lousy or missing proofs in some cases.
>
>I can certainly understand people being disappointed at not getting a
>banned story in it's original form. But I have a hard time understanding
>complaints about "redrawn" art. When everything important (like the
>story, the layout, the position of the character, the facial
>expressions, etc. etc.) is original, and the only change is the exact
>thickness of a line a fraction of a millimeter long, what's the problem?
>
>But for those of you who think it *is* a problem, all I can say is that
>you really should step back and look at the forest. It's a much more
>pleasant view than that knothole on the the third tree to the left that
>you've got your nose buried in.
>
>
>> BYRON:
>
>> Ya big palooka! WHY ON EARTH DIDN'T YOU SHOW UP AS PROMISED AT SVENSKA
>> MAESSAN IN THE END OF OCTOBER???!!!! I bought *expensive* tickets to go
>> there and see you, but there were no Byron to be seen anywhere!! I heard
>> from someone you had decided against coming after all! I *demand* a *good*
>> explanation for this!
>
>The problem was, *I* promised *nothing*! I found out only *after* the
>program book was printed that I was listed as a guest. In fact, I
>was only invited to attend a couple of weeks before the fair (an
>oversight, I was assured), and at that point I had other things on my
>schedule that made attending impossible. So I declined the invitation.
>
>But I'm certainly flattered that you went all that way to see li'l ol'
>me! And I don't believe it for one second!
>
>-- Byron "I just like to *read* a good comic book story" Erickson
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 14:30:53
>From: Daniel van Eijmeren <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Camel-story, CBL-changes, bumping nephews
>
>I've sent this letter yesterday, but somehow it didn't show up (at least
>not to all members). I've asked Per about it and his advice was to send
>the letter again, so here it is:
>
>
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>Date sent: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 01:12:05
>From: Daniel van Eijmeren
>To: Disney-Comics
>Subject: Camel-story, CBL-changes, bumping nephews
>
>
>HARRY FLUKS, 17-01-1997:
>
>> it could also have been Barks himself who decided to change the facial
>> expressions on the last moment. I remember one WDC story (about a camel
>> and uranium) where Donald gets Christmas presents, and has a strange
>> smile on his face. Obviously, he didn't look happy at all originally,
>> but Barks must have decided that that would be too ungrateful. The
>> "apologising" expressions in the "Toyland" story might have been a
>> similar thing?
>
>I've checked the camel-story (WDC 160), but I don't know which panel you
>mean. See my previous post for a rather extended theory on what might have
>happened with "Toyland".
>
>
>JAKOB SODERBAUM, 16-01-1997:
>
>> I don't have the complete collection, but I heard that it's only *90%*
>> of the Library that is Barks original art. There's really much redrawn
>> (and/or censored)...
>
>Do you have any additions to my list of CBL-changes? (This list will soon
>be updated with all the information which has been posted here recently.)
>
>
>KRISTIAN PEDERSEN, 18-01-1997:
>
>> Regarding the recent discussion of Barks panels with nephews panicking
>> and bumping into each other, I'm 99 % sure that there is one such panel
>> in the story in which Donald and the kids go diving for pearls
>
>Make it 100 % sure. I've checked the story (WDC 97) and it does indeed
>have this panel.
>
>
>Greetings,
>
>--- Daniel
>
>
> "Hooray! I'm cured! My mind doesn't hurt anymore!"
>
> The Mad Musician, OG 11 --- Carl Barks
>
>
>
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- End of forwarded message -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 15:02:38 +0100
>From: Marco Barlotti <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Maestri Disney
>
>> Marco, didn't Lidia Cannatella talk about this when she called you ?
>
>Not a single word. Anyway, it looks like these monographs will mainly be
>devoted to ITALIAN Disney artistas, doesn't it? So I guess Lidia is PERFECT
>for the job!
>
>> Below is an article from the december issue
>>of "CopyWrite". I'll write it all down:
>>
>> "Disney Italy announces several new innovative magazines
>
>Arthur! I'm getting afraid there's no hope you can keep up with so many
>Italian Disney Comics :-)
>
>
>
>> This month, a new bi-monthly magazine entitled Ridi Topolino was
>>launched containing a collection of funny stories (70%), jokes, games
>>and tests. The magazine targets children aged seven to ten and has a cover
>>price of L4000.
>
>This month? Which? I have asked my newsdealer, and he knew nothing!
>
>> Maestri Disney, a new magazine for collectors will be introduced in
>>January 1997.
>
>And again, isn't it sort of strange that, say, "Zio Paperone" (January
>issue, on sale since January 15th), doesn't have a line of advertisment for
>this?
>
>Anyway, we're hopefully waiting! Certainly it sounds very very good!
> Marco
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 10:10:57 -0500
>From: Didier Ghez <(Email removed)>
>To: Disney Comics <(Email removed)>
>Subject: Balthazar Picsou
>
>Hi,
>
>DAVID:
>
>Here is the story of $crooge's French name.
>
>First to answer your question as to why Picsou is the only one to be called
>by his last name two reasons were given to me by the experts:
>
>He is a business man and calling him by his surname is more serious and
>most respectfull than calling him by his first name.
>
>Also (and that is whithout a doubt the real, historical reason, even if it
>has a lot more to do with the real world than with the imaginary world):
>Picsou has been called by two different names and two different surnames
>before getting his final name and the one that stuck was Picsou as it was
>the funniest and the one that described best his character (Picsou is a pun
>meaning "who steal coins").
>
>He received his first name Balthazar only in the early '70s. It was Michel
>Mandry, editor of the Journal de Mickey at the time who gave that first
>name to him when Picsou Magazine was launched. It was chosen as it was rare
>and rich. It was also an hommage to one of the three wise kings. Michel,
>by the way is the friend who provided all of the following info.
>
>The first time $crooge appeared in France was in the Summer of 1949 in the
>number 15 of the series "Les Belles Histoires de Walt Disney" (published by
>Hachette). It was in the story Donald et le Secret du Donjon (Donald Duck
>in the Old Castle's Secret - 4 Coulour 189). $crooge was called Oncle
>Harpagon.
>
>In number 66 (January 11, 1952) of Mickey Magazine, published in Belgium,
>$crooge was called Oncle Jeremie McDuck.
>
>In number 258 (March 2, 1952) of Hardi presente Donald, published in
>France, $crooge was called Oncle Edgar.
>
>In number 30 (December 21, 1952) of Le Journal de Mickey, published in
>France, $crooge is called for the first time Picsou.
>It's Raymond Calame who was the editor of Lectures pour Tous and Hardi
>presente Donald and was also in charge of comics for Le Journal de Mickey
>who found his name. Making a pun on the character's personality.
>
>In 1972, when Picsou Magazine was launched, sponsored by the French bank
>Credit Lyonnais, the commercial department of that bank realised only at
>the last minute what the name meant and the decided to remain discreet
>during the launch !
>
>The idea of giving him a first name appeared to make Picsou more "human".
>But Picsou, in 20 years, was already too well known and could not be
>changed as the name by which everybody called $crooge.
>
>We should add that Flairsou (Rocker Duck) is also called by his surname,
>his first name (also invented by Michel) being Cresus.
>
>I hope this answers your question.
>
>Didier
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:31:15 +-100
>From: Harry Fluks <(Email removed)>
>To: "(Email removed)" <(Email removed)>
>Subject: Short questions and answers
>
>AARON ALDRIDGE:
>> my two main interests, law and duck comics, come together in Air Pirates
>
>What is Air Pirates?
>
>
>DANIEL VAN EIJMEREN:
>> I've checked the camel-story (WDC 160), but I don't know which panel you
>> mean.
>
>The second panel of the story. Where Donald looks at the Christmas
presents, summing up
>what he got.
>
>
>PER STARBACK:
>> So Harry received it?
>
>I don't know where Daniel got that idea, but I *didn't* receive his message
>yesterday. But it *was* very quiet yesterday (sunday). For instance, I haven't
>seen a message from Don Rosa.
>
>--Harry.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:21:36 +-100
>From: Harry Fluks <(Email removed)>
>To: "'dc'" <(Email removed)>
>Subject: [Hans Crezee:] taliaferro sunday page collection
>
>[The following message was sent to me privately. Either Hans forgot to put
>the Mailing List's address, or he had problems because he's no member of the
>List. Anyway, here it is --Harry.]
>
>----------
>Van: Hans Crezee[SMTP:(Email removed)]
>Subject: Re: taliaferro sunday page collection
>
>Hello you guys
>
>I'm Hans Crezee, and have been collecting DD and MM for about 25 years.
>I thought I should add a note on the following
>
>> > > There is a Taliaferro-Sunday-page collection in German.
>> > There's also one in Sweden. Or *was* some years ago. There were three
>> > albums/pockets published of the years 1938-40 (or something). Nothing too
>> > special though, IMO. But I'd *love* to see it in English...
>
>All these Taliaferro reprints seem to be based on an Italian volume
>published in the seventies, containing all of his DD sunday pages from 1936
>to the mid 1940's. The title was something with '365 something with DD'
>(My Italian isn't that great).
>The reason I think all other volumes are based on this book is because
>not all sunday pages are present, and oddly enough, all other collections
>are missing exactly the same pages. All these collections claim to be
>complete, but they aren't!
>That was a very annoying discovery, as I was using this volume to date
>1930's European reprints of Taliaferro's DD, and was left with '?' marks
>in my files.
>
>Hans Crezee
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:49:08 +-100
>From: Harry Fluks <(Email removed)>
>To: "(Email removed)" <(Email removed)>
>Subject: Erickson
>
>> we were forced to shoot from the original
>> comic (filtering out the color), and retouch what was left -- in
>> essence, "redrawing" it the same way Jippes "redrew" "Darkest Africa."
>
>I think there's an essential difference. When Jippes redrew a story, he started
>from scratch on an all-white paper. So every line is his. In many cases
>(or so he said), he had to *guess* the contents of a Barks panel, because the
>xeroxes he worked from were very dark. So his redrawings are far further from
>the original Barks drawings than the restorings you are talking about. (I'm
>not saying anything about the amount of effort done in both cases!)
>
>When a story's art is not close to the original, for whatever reason, we
like to know.
>For instance, most of the story "Darkest Africa" you mention, was *not* redrawn
>by Daan Jippes, but by Dick Vlottes, who was less experienced with drawing
>Ducks. And it shows. Some panels look terrible. In this case it's good to
know that
>those drawings were *not* the original Barks drawings.
>
>So it's good to have a list of changes in Barks' artwork in the CBL. Not
every tiny
>change, of course. Personally, I don't think the re-inserting of previously
censored
>artwork needs to be mentioned in the list. But a re-inking of entire
stories (Africa),
>censoring, or change of facial expressions (Toyland) should be noted.
>
>Making a list of them is not a judgement for the makers of the CBL. But
it's a lead for
>the Barks-fan who wants all the original Barks-lines. And it's a help for
scholars who
>study Barks' artwork.
>
>--Harry.
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 20:46:10 +0100
>From: Nils Lid Hjort <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: August Strindberg etc.
>
>Harry Fluks (digest #15) has been "wondering who or what Strindberg is".
>On this occasion your level of wondering cannot have been very actively
>engaged, Harry: perhaps 8,310,000 Swedes have already phoned in to
>tell you this, but (Johan) August Strindberg (1849-1912) was/is a (world)
>famous playwright (and novelist). In Scandinavia I would say he is second
>only to Henrik (Johan) Ibsen. (Try "The Red Room" or "Miss Julie"
>(with French and not Swedish pronunciation in the title!).)
>
>He had a somewhat unpredictable mood, I gather (at least from 1869 onwards,
>after failing the entrance examination to the Royal Theatre of Stockholm),
>but perhaps he takes some pride (I feel present tense is appropriate here)
>in lending his name to the email-address of this distinguished literary
>analysis group. (And "ling.uu.se", since Harry wonders, must mean something
>like the linguistic department? at the University of Uppsala, in Sweden.)
>
>This footnote contribution to a footnote discussion was triggered by
>Don's making "(Email removed)" eternal via his latest Duck story.
>Of course "iglou" is the dative form of the Eskimo word "igloo",
>as when offering something to an igloo ("Don gave the iglou an icebear").
>
>Staying with Sweden and Don Rosa: delightful story about the Swedish Kalla
>Ankas #2-10 that you are lending out to the Lekmuseet! I'm two bits
>surprised that this dealer-of-the-old-school you describe didn't sense
>in his bones that pristine mint KAs #1-10 were indeed more valuable than
>20 dollars.
>
>Nils Lid Hjort
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 22:03:35 +0100
>From: Nils Lid Hjort <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: banning, redrawing: questions
>
>There have been recent discussions here about redrawing occasions of Barks
>art in the CB Library/CB Library in Color. Byron Erickson and others
>have been explaining relevant reasons and aspects of this.
>Two questions:
>
>Is there a list somewhere (hopefully a short one) of the instances
>where the _originally published art_ (which in this context is 1.5 nuances
>away from being the same as Barks' original art) was (CBL)/is (the ongoing
>CBLinC) _changed_ (which is 8.3 nuances away from being the same as
>redrawn/retouched)? The most famous example would be the ending panel
>of the Atom Bomb story (where the 1947 panel is _very different_,
>also in character, from what is in CBL/CBLinC). Is this the only
>_drastic_ example?
>
>Secondly: Byron E. says that Disney _ordered the proofs destroyed_
>for some of the "banned stories", like Darkest Africa (1948).
>Surprising & amazing. Ordering destruction is of course much much more
>drastic and stalinistic than asking the proofs "not to be used again".
>
>(a) What is the (current) list of such "banned Barks" stories/parts of
>stories? I say "current" since some stories _have been_ banned but has
>later been published widely (Darkest Africa).
>
>(b) Who has the executing power to say "ban this" & "deban that"
>(except the Pope)? Are _reasons_ given for the decisions? Do we know
>the extent to which such decisions were actually _debated_ (pros and cons)
>in the appropriate fora?
>
>(c) Who had the actual power to destroy proofs? I'm trying to imagine
>in my mind a typical secretary at work, destroying proofs of
>Darkest Africa -- was there a sense of a Historical Moment briefly
>touching her(him) during the autodafe? It's all in a day's work, of course...
>
>Nils Lid Hjort
>
>------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 16:58:40 -0500
>From: "Dan Shane" <(Email removed)>
>To: <(Email removed)>
>Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V97 #15
>
>HARRY:
>
>IGLOU stands for Internet Gateway of Louisville. It's simply a play on
>words. Most people recognize an igloo as an ice house built by natives who
>live near the Arctic Circle in North America.
>
>--------------------------------
>End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #17
>*****************************************
>
>
Christy Padgett
"Padge"
Sigmas in the house
Eric Chun
CINERAMA
Message 215 -
1997-01-21 at 22:03:03
Don wrote:
> ... only existing CINERAMA theater in North America (perhaps the
> world) ...
I think there's also a CINERAMA-like theater at Disney World (EPCOT?).
To record films, they used several film cameras tied in a circle to
record 360 degrees of action. The film was shown on a dome screen,
enabling you to see all 360 degrees of action.
See ya later.
Eric
> ... only existing CINERAMA theater in North America (perhaps the
> world) ...
I think there's also a CINERAMA-like theater at Disney World (EPCOT?).
To record films, they used several film cameras tied in a circle to
record 360 degrees of action. The film was shown on a dome screen,
enabling you to see all 360 degrees of action.
See ya later.
Eric
Carsten Pedersen
Disney Stores in Amsterdam and Paris
Message 216 -
1997-01-21 at 22:38:14
Hi,
I'm, like others, also planning a short wacation in the near future. My
trip takes me to Amsterdam and Paris. If any of you knows good stores to
visit - for Disney back issues - within and in the area of the two sities,
I would be happy if you e-mailed me.
Thanks, Carsten
I'm, like others, also planning a short wacation in the near future. My
trip takes me to Amsterdam and Paris. If any of you knows good stores to
visit - for Disney back issues - within and in the area of the two sities,
I would be happy if you e-mailed me.
Thanks, Carsten
Fabrizio Cellerini
Maestri Disney
Message 217 -
1997-01-21 at 22:41:35
DON :
> There are conflicting reports on here about this new Italian Disney comic.
> Will it specifically showcase the work of strictly ITALIAN artists... or of
> ANY Disney comics artist? The report that Arthur gave from the "Copywright"
> magazine says nothing about it being strictly for Italian work. Naturally I
> would expect it to focus mainly on the MANY Italian artists... but there are
> many other unsung artists in other countries who deserve an occasional
> showcase.
Luca Boschi's article on "Comic Art" clearly states that the new
"Maestri Disney" will feature CHIEFLY Italian works, but foreign (i.e.
non-Italian) material will be included as well.
I do not know whether your stories will appear on it, since it seems you
already have "a permanent showcase" on "Zio Paperone"...(Do not get me
wrong, you widely deserve it ! And there are so many Rosa's works yet to
be seen here in Italy...)
Anyway I agree with Marco that probably the beginning date has been
delayed, as it is reaaly strange that no adverising has appeared on any
Disney publishing.
Ooops, today I forgot to check my newstand...
Regards,
Fabrizio
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #19
*****************************************
> There are conflicting reports on here about this new Italian Disney comic.
> Will it specifically showcase the work of strictly ITALIAN artists... or of
> ANY Disney comics artist? The report that Arthur gave from the "Copywright"
> magazine says nothing about it being strictly for Italian work. Naturally I
> would expect it to focus mainly on the MANY Italian artists... but there are
> many other unsung artists in other countries who deserve an occasional
> showcase.
Luca Boschi's article on "Comic Art" clearly states that the new
"Maestri Disney" will feature CHIEFLY Italian works, but foreign (i.e.
non-Italian) material will be included as well.
I do not know whether your stories will appear on it, since it seems you
already have "a permanent showcase" on "Zio Paperone"...(Do not get me
wrong, you widely deserve it ! And there are so many Rosa's works yet to
be seen here in Italy...)
Anyway I agree with Marco that probably the beginning date has been
delayed, as it is reaaly strange that no adverising has appeared on any
Disney publishing.
Ooops, today I forgot to check my newstand...
Regards,
Fabrizio
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #19
*****************************************
Arthur De Wolf
Disney Stores in Amsterdam and Paris
Message 218 -
1997-01-21 at 23:03:33
Welcome to Arthur's Travel Guide!
CARTEN PEDERSEN:
You mention Disney Stores in your subject, but I might hope that you
don't want to try to get Disney COMICS in a Disney Store. They don't have
any comics in Disney Stores, at least not in the ones where I have been.
But ... Disney Stores are always fun and if you have never been to one,
you should definetely go to either the one on the Champs D'Elysees in
Paris, or the one in the Disney Village in the Disneyland Paris Resort.
(And if you're there anyway, there are lots of other Disney stores too! ;-)
We don't have any Disney Stores in Amsterdam or anywhere else in the
Netherlands. :-( We DO have a Planet Hollywood in Amsterdam, but that
won't help you much with comics! Not that a Disney Store WOULD, but it's
just fun to go to one! Anyway ... now I've been talking here for almost
a whole paragraph and you still don't know where to buy your comics! I
wouldn't know where to buy Disney comics in Paris, but I CAN give you some
addresses of comicshops in Amsterdam! Heck, last time I was in Paris, I
got all my comics for FREE when I visited Didier at his home and I don't
think ANY comicshop can compete with THAT! ;-) Whenever I go to Amsterdam,
I usually go to Lambiek (Kerkstraat 78) or Professor Ich (in the Konninginneweg).
You can get there by tram, but you'll have to stay in the
tram till you are at the end of that street, cause it's a REALLY long street!
I once got out of the tram at the beginning of that street and I had to walk
for 30 minutes to finally arrive at the shop). Lambiek has a large range of
Disney-material from several countries. It is an average good shop, although
a little expensive. If I'm not mistaken it got an American price once, for
best comicshop in the WORLD, or something! Professor Ich has a lot of Disney
material, including lots of Gladstone back issues. In addition, you could go
to the Richard (Rombout Hogerbeetstraat 78), Snoek (Eerste van Swindenstraat)
or The American Bookstore. The first two are not very easy to find and not
very impressive. I already bought all the Gladstone-issues Richard once! ;-)
The American Bookstore, which is located in the centre (you can't miss it)
does not have any Disney comics, but they DO have lots of books on Disney
animated feature films. Beautiful books. And also a lot of Star Trek and
X-Files merchandise and magazines if you're interested in that sort of stuff!
Actually, they don't have any really impressive comicshops in
Amsterdam! Maybe you can visit GP in Amsterdam! They REALLY have
a VERY BIG archive of Disney comics! ;-)
Oops! This has been going on for WAY too long! Better quit!
Bye! (and keep your fingers crossed for my exam tomorrow! ;-)
Arthur de Wolf
CARTEN PEDERSEN:
You mention Disney Stores in your subject, but I might hope that you
don't want to try to get Disney COMICS in a Disney Store. They don't have
any comics in Disney Stores, at least not in the ones where I have been.
But ... Disney Stores are always fun and if you have never been to one,
you should definetely go to either the one on the Champs D'Elysees in
Paris, or the one in the Disney Village in the Disneyland Paris Resort.
(And if you're there anyway, there are lots of other Disney stores too! ;-)
We don't have any Disney Stores in Amsterdam or anywhere else in the
Netherlands. :-( We DO have a Planet Hollywood in Amsterdam, but that
won't help you much with comics! Not that a Disney Store WOULD, but it's
just fun to go to one! Anyway ... now I've been talking here for almost
a whole paragraph and you still don't know where to buy your comics! I
wouldn't know where to buy Disney comics in Paris, but I CAN give you some
addresses of comicshops in Amsterdam! Heck, last time I was in Paris, I
got all my comics for FREE when I visited Didier at his home and I don't
think ANY comicshop can compete with THAT! ;-) Whenever I go to Amsterdam,
I usually go to Lambiek (Kerkstraat 78) or Professor Ich (in the Konninginneweg).
You can get there by tram, but you'll have to stay in the
tram till you are at the end of that street, cause it's a REALLY long street!
I once got out of the tram at the beginning of that street and I had to walk
for 30 minutes to finally arrive at the shop). Lambiek has a large range of
Disney-material from several countries. It is an average good shop, although
a little expensive. If I'm not mistaken it got an American price once, for
best comicshop in the WORLD, or something! Professor Ich has a lot of Disney
material, including lots of Gladstone back issues. In addition, you could go
to the Richard (Rombout Hogerbeetstraat 78), Snoek (Eerste van Swindenstraat)
or The American Bookstore. The first two are not very easy to find and not
very impressive. I already bought all the Gladstone-issues Richard once! ;-)
The American Bookstore, which is located in the centre (you can't miss it)
does not have any Disney comics, but they DO have lots of books on Disney
animated feature films. Beautiful books. And also a lot of Star Trek and
X-Files merchandise and magazines if you're interested in that sort of stuff!
Actually, they don't have any really impressive comicshops in
Amsterdam! Maybe you can visit GP in Amsterdam! They REALLY have
a VERY BIG archive of Disney comics! ;-)
Oops! This has been going on for WAY too long! Better quit!
Bye! (and keep your fingers crossed for my exam tomorrow! ;-)
Arthur de Wolf
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V97 #19
Message 219 -
1997-01-22 at 00:44:00
PER:
Fer the luvva god, unsubscribe "Christy Padgett" before she strikes again!!!!!
ERIC:
Nay, nay... 360 or 180 degree or even IMAX theaters or films are totally
different from Cinerama. The only similarity is that they use more than one
camera. But to describe the massive differences would take too much space
here. (Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned it... but then maybe I shoulda, just
to make sure people who see 360 degree films don't think they saw anything
akin to Cinerama.)
Fer the luvva god, unsubscribe "Christy Padgett" before she strikes again!!!!!
ERIC:
Nay, nay... 360 or 180 degree or even IMAX theaters or films are totally
different from Cinerama. The only similarity is that they use more than one
camera. But to describe the massive differences would take too much space
here. (Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned it... but then maybe I shoulda, just
to make sure people who see 360 degree films don't think they saw anything
akin to Cinerama.)
Shaun M. Knowler
Comics in Paris/Amsterdam
Message 220 -
1997-01-22 at 01:26:15
CARSTEN:
When I visited those cities a few years ago, I was able to find issues of
PISCOU and OOM DAGOBERT in virtually every news stand and convenience-type
store I went into...so I wouldn't worry about it too much.
DON:
Well, I could've called too, but then I'd have to explain the phone bill
to my father...
;)
-Shaun
When I visited those cities a few years ago, I was able to find issues of
PISCOU and OOM DAGOBERT in virtually every news stand and convenience-type
store I went into...so I wouldn't worry about it too much.
DON:
Well, I could've called too, but then I'd have to explain the phone bill
to my father...
;)
-Shaun
John F. Haley Jr.
Disney's Aladdin Comics
Message 221 -
1997-01-22 at 04:04:07
I am a avid collector of Aladdin comics and would like to start a
discussion about them. It was my favorite movie and I collect comics,
videos and books about him. Does anybody have any info about his comics,
and Disney's Aladdin artist/writers. After the first movie there have
been many different adventures written about this character. Is it true
that the original character was developed after the actor Tom Cruise?
I hope there is somebody else interested in Aladdin too and is
more knowledgeable to start a discussion about this character. I am sure
he is still a hit world wide. I would like to open up this discussion.
As a side note does anybody know how I can subscribe to an
Aladdin Mailing List, Aladdin Animation Mailing List, Aladdin Animation
Mailing list. I really love this Disney Comics list.
I hope I here from how Aladdin has made an effect World Wide! :)
Thanks
John
discussion about them. It was my favorite movie and I collect comics,
videos and books about him. Does anybody have any info about his comics,
and Disney's Aladdin artist/writers. After the first movie there have
been many different adventures written about this character. Is it true
that the original character was developed after the actor Tom Cruise?
I hope there is somebody else interested in Aladdin too and is
more knowledgeable to start a discussion about this character. I am sure
he is still a hit world wide. I would like to open up this discussion.
As a side note does anybody know how I can subscribe to an
Aladdin Mailing List, Aladdin Animation Mailing List, Aladdin Animation
Mailing list. I really love this Disney Comics list.
I hope I here from how Aladdin has made an effect World Wide! :)
Thanks
John
Carey M. Furlong
Disney comics Digest V97 #18
Message 222 -
1997-01-22 at 04:56:43
Don Rosa wrote:
> For you youngsters, CINERAMA is a movie process....
> Between 1952 and 1962 there were 5 travelogues and two actual "story"
> movies filmed in this process, and How the West Was Won was the final one.
Actually, there was at least one other Cinerama motion picture released
after "How the West Was Won." In 1967, "2001: A Space Odyssey" premiered
in Hollywood, California in Cinerama. It was presented on three screens
using three projectors, and the wrap-around view was quite amazing. The
sound was "loud" and its impact staggering. I still have the premiere
booklet sold in the lobby. If you check the early soundtrack album for
2001 you will see the Cinerama logo on the cover.
In 1963 I also saw "How the West Was Won" in Cinerama, in the same
Hollywood theater.
Eric Chun wrote:
> I think there's also a CINERAMA-like theater at Disney World (EPCOT?).
> To record films, they used several film cameras tied in a circle to
> record 360 degrees of action. The film was shown on a dome screen,
> enabling you to see all 360 degrees of action.
Disney used to have the 360 degree "surround-type" theater you
mention in Disneyland, California. It wasn't Cinerama, which was a
patented process (Cinerama did not cover more than 180 degrees).
The Disneyland surround theater, with its old 60's showing of America
the Beautiful, was always one of my favorite stops while touring the
Magical Kingdom.
Carey
"This fabulous twenty-four
carat moon for a handful of
dirt! ...Man! That's the
biggest bargain I ever heard
of in all history."
------ S. McDuck (US24) -----
Carey Furlong; Hungtington Beach, California;
(Email removed); (Email removed)
> For you youngsters, CINERAMA is a movie process....
> Between 1952 and 1962 there were 5 travelogues and two actual "story"
> movies filmed in this process, and How the West Was Won was the final one.
Actually, there was at least one other Cinerama motion picture released
after "How the West Was Won." In 1967, "2001: A Space Odyssey" premiered
in Hollywood, California in Cinerama. It was presented on three screens
using three projectors, and the wrap-around view was quite amazing. The
sound was "loud" and its impact staggering. I still have the premiere
booklet sold in the lobby. If you check the early soundtrack album for
2001 you will see the Cinerama logo on the cover.
In 1963 I also saw "How the West Was Won" in Cinerama, in the same
Hollywood theater.
Eric Chun wrote:
> I think there's also a CINERAMA-like theater at Disney World (EPCOT?).
> To record films, they used several film cameras tied in a circle to
> record 360 degrees of action. The film was shown on a dome screen,
> enabling you to see all 360 degrees of action.
Disney used to have the 360 degree "surround-type" theater you
mention in Disneyland, California. It wasn't Cinerama, which was a
patented process (Cinerama did not cover more than 180 degrees).
The Disneyland surround theater, with its old 60's showing of America
the Beautiful, was always one of my favorite stops while touring the
Magical Kingdom.
Carey
"This fabulous twenty-four
carat moon for a handful of
dirt! ...Man! That's the
biggest bargain I ever heard
of in all history."
------ S. McDuck (US24) -----
Carey Furlong; Hungtington Beach, California;
(Email removed); (Email removed)
SRoweCanoe
Disney comics Digest V97 #18
Message 223 -
1997-01-22 at 07:26:53
Please note to those trying to unsubscribe:
<< To unsubscribe, send a message to <(Email removed)>
with the subject "unsubscribe". To get help, send "help" instead.]>>
Don, there was only two cinerama movies made? So, i must have only seen
breathtaking cinemascope (with stereoscopic sound)? ((and why do I think you
can name that tune?). So, how was the film?
Aron wrote <<Air Pirates was a comic book published without Disney's
permission in
the 70's showing Disney characters engaging in illicit behavior. Disney
wasn't happy, sued, and won. It was discussed on the list two or three
months ago, if my memory is correct. Does anyone know how many issues
were published? I believe two were, but am unsure.>>
It was more like last year when we discussed this. two issues and Toitoise
and the Hare (which was #3 with the Mickey Mouse stories removed), and a
tabloid with out Disney material. Came out circa 1971, mastermined by Dan
O'Neill. I allways thought that it would be a hoot if he could do a legit
Mickey story.
Frank: My memory tells me that Black Hole #1 cover was a photo. Anybody
look this up?
Steven Rowe
<< To unsubscribe, send a message to <(Email removed)>
with the subject "unsubscribe". To get help, send "help" instead.]>>
Don, there was only two cinerama movies made? So, i must have only seen
breathtaking cinemascope (with stereoscopic sound)? ((and why do I think you
can name that tune?). So, how was the film?
Aron wrote <<Air Pirates was a comic book published without Disney's
permission in
the 70's showing Disney characters engaging in illicit behavior. Disney
wasn't happy, sued, and won. It was discussed on the list two or three
months ago, if my memory is correct. Does anyone know how many issues
were published? I believe two were, but am unsure.>>
It was more like last year when we discussed this. two issues and Toitoise
and the Hare (which was #3 with the Mickey Mouse stories removed), and a
tabloid with out Disney material. Came out circa 1971, mastermined by Dan
O'Neill. I allways thought that it would be a hoot if he could do a legit
Mickey story.
Frank: My memory tells me that Black Hole #1 cover was a photo. Anybody
look this up?
Steven Rowe
Frank Fabian
New Ehapa titles and Ehapa website
Message 224 -
1997-01-22 at 09:38:39
I hope this wasn't brought up before, since I'm a bit behind in digests. I
just wanted to let the interested know that German Disney publisher Ehapa
now has a website (partly still under construction, it seems, but most
Disney-relevant pages are already available). You can find information on
the month' s novelties and more, including scanned covers. The web address is
http://www.ehapa.de
Speaking of novelties, I also yesterday came across a brochure detailing
their new titles from May to September. The ongoing serials CBL in Color
WDC, Donald Duck and - new - Uncle Scrooge will be continued; also due are
new Rosa and van Horn albums. They are planning an album celebrating U$'s
50th, containing Don's recently discussed story for this occasion among
others. Also continued will be the "Micky Maus" reprints; in 1997 reprints
of the year 1953 and of the first 13 "Sonderhefte" (special editions) from
the fifties will be published.
Another very interesting item is the first volume of a new "Micky Maus"
series (no info if and how this will be continued). No 1 anyway contains
Ulrich Schroeder's "Runaway Brain" (under the title "Micky Monstermaus"),
also discussed in the ML some time ago, along with a reprint of Floyd
Gottfredson's "Blaggart Castle" and info on the story, the cartoon which
preceded it, scribbles from Ulrich Schroeder .... Sounds interesting.
That's enough advertisement now. Check out the website if you're interested.
Best regards ...
****************************************************************************
*******************
Wuerttembergische Landesbibliothek Frank Fabian
Abt. Katalogisierung Periodika (KaP) Tel.: +49
711/212- 4383
Konrad-Adenauer Str. 8 / Postfach 10 54 41 Fax.: +49 711/212-4437
70173 Stuttgart / 70047 Stuttgart
mail:(Email removed)
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*******************
just wanted to let the interested know that German Disney publisher Ehapa
now has a website (partly still under construction, it seems, but most
Disney-relevant pages are already available). You can find information on
the month' s novelties and more, including scanned covers. The web address is
http://www.ehapa.de
Speaking of novelties, I also yesterday came across a brochure detailing
their new titles from May to September. The ongoing serials CBL in Color
WDC, Donald Duck and - new - Uncle Scrooge will be continued; also due are
new Rosa and van Horn albums. They are planning an album celebrating U$'s
50th, containing Don's recently discussed story for this occasion among
others. Also continued will be the "Micky Maus" reprints; in 1997 reprints
of the year 1953 and of the first 13 "Sonderhefte" (special editions) from
the fifties will be published.
Another very interesting item is the first volume of a new "Micky Maus"
series (no info if and how this will be continued). No 1 anyway contains
Ulrich Schroeder's "Runaway Brain" (under the title "Micky Monstermaus"),
also discussed in the ML some time ago, along with a reprint of Floyd
Gottfredson's "Blaggart Castle" and info on the story, the cartoon which
preceded it, scribbles from Ulrich Schroeder .... Sounds interesting.
That's enough advertisement now. Check out the website if you're interested.
Best regards ...
****************************************************************************
*******************
Wuerttembergische Landesbibliothek Frank Fabian
Abt. Katalogisierung Periodika (KaP) Tel.: +49
711/212- 4383
Konrad-Adenauer Str. 8 / Postfach 10 54 41 Fax.: +49 711/212-4437
70173 Stuttgart / 70047 Stuttgart
mail:(Email removed)
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*******************
Didier Ghez
Asterix and Disney
Message 225 -
1997-01-22 at 11:04:02
Hi,
I think it was Jakob who recently expressed his suprise at the fact that
Asterix videos were distributed by Disney in the US.
The anecdote I am going to tell being only on the outer fringe of Disney
comics, I'll ask you all to excuse me.
I just wanted to mention that a year ago I was lucky enough to have lunch
with Albert Uderzo. It was a lunch I had organized for one of Disney's top
animators who was staying in France at the time. During more than an hour
during that lunch, Uderzo gave us his thoughts about the way Asterix had
been animated to that day (it was about three weeks after Asterix goes to
America had been released). He was very displeased by the quality of the
animation.
But the most surprising is that he said that one of his dreams most dear to
his heart would be to see Disney make an adaptation of his character. That
will probably never happen, though, as Asterix is not that popular in the
US and as Uderzo wanted to keep the licensing rights on his cahracter.
Didier
I think it was Jakob who recently expressed his suprise at the fact that
Asterix videos were distributed by Disney in the US.
The anecdote I am going to tell being only on the outer fringe of Disney
comics, I'll ask you all to excuse me.
I just wanted to mention that a year ago I was lucky enough to have lunch
with Albert Uderzo. It was a lunch I had organized for one of Disney's top
animators who was staying in France at the time. During more than an hour
during that lunch, Uderzo gave us his thoughts about the way Asterix had
been animated to that day (it was about three weeks after Asterix goes to
America had been released). He was very displeased by the quality of the
animation.
But the most surprising is that he said that one of his dreams most dear to
his heart would be to see Disney make an adaptation of his character. That
will probably never happen, though, as Asterix is not that popular in the
US and as Uderzo wanted to keep the licensing rights on his cahracter.
Didier