SHAUN KNOWLER:
> When I visited those cities a few years ago, I was able to find
> issues of PISCOU and OOM DAGOBERT in virtually every news stand and
> convenience-type store I went into...
Oh yeah ... ofcourse! I thought he was searching for comic shops in parti-
cular. But he can certainly get the current Disney comics everywhere!
There're magazineshops and newsstands on every streetcorner, where they
have piles of Disney comics! Especially in Amsterdam! And not only OOM
DAGOBERT, but many other titles too!
Arthur de Wolf
Author
Topic: 199701
(301 messages)
Arthur De Wolf
Comics in Paris/Amsterdam
Message 226 -
1997-01-22 at 17:08:37
Gary Leach
Disney comics Digest V97 #17
Message 227 -
1997-01-22 at 17:37:58
MARCO:
Naw, you didn't hurt my feelings. If you had, you wouldn't have heard
anything from me (I'm the sullen, silent type when it comes to nursing
grudges).
NILS:
Disney, though a publicly held corporation, is in the US private sector.
Mickey, Donald, Scrooge, and all their Disney stablemates are, therefore,
private property. Disney has a perfect right to direct that proofs of a
story they no longer approve of be destroyed, as such proofs pertain
directly to the usage of Disney's private property. This right is
conditioned neither by time nor by precedent, but solely by the terms of
the applicable licensing agreement between Disney and the party that
actually produced the proofs.
The part of this that can't be soothed by legalese is that these characters
are so much...ours. Disney may own them, but we love them, and whenever
something about them is, as we see it, mishandled, even by the owners, it
can hurt. A lot.
Gary
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"Heads will swing!"
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Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
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Naw, you didn't hurt my feelings. If you had, you wouldn't have heard
anything from me (I'm the sullen, silent type when it comes to nursing
grudges).
NILS:
Disney, though a publicly held corporation, is in the US private sector.
Mickey, Donald, Scrooge, and all their Disney stablemates are, therefore,
private property. Disney has a perfect right to direct that proofs of a
story they no longer approve of be destroyed, as such proofs pertain
directly to the usage of Disney's private property. This right is
conditioned neither by time nor by precedent, but solely by the terms of
the applicable licensing agreement between Disney and the party that
actually produced the proofs.
The part of this that can't be soothed by legalese is that these characters
are so much...ours. Disney may own them, but we love them, and whenever
something about them is, as we see it, mishandled, even by the owners, it
can hurt. A lot.
Gary
****************************
"Heads will swing!"
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Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
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Deckerd
Disney's Aladdin Comics
Message 228 -
1997-01-22 at 17:50:23
On Jan 21, 9:04pm, John F. Haley Jr. wrote:
> Subject: Disney's Aladdin Comics
> I am a avid collector of Aladdin comics and would like to start a
> discussion about them. It was my favorite movie and I collect
comics,
> videos and books about him. Does anybody have any info about his
comics,
> and Disney's Aladdin artist/writers.
>
Wow! It must be nice to be so enthusiastic about _anything_
these days!
I'm not an expert on Aladdin myself. It was one more Disney
movie out of many in the current wave of one a year, more or
less, though probably better than last couple. I recall hearing
that Aladdin was made specifically as a "boys' movie," because
somebody (Katzenberg? Eisner?) thought that Little Mermaid
and Beauty & the Beast had been "girls' movies." I also heard
that there was an attempt in Aladdin to aim for the more frenetic
Looney Tunes style. Anyway, those are just rumors I heard, and
may not be true. I've seen Aladdin in several other languages,
by the way, and too my surprise, the genie is pretty well done
in all of them, matching Robin Williams's rapidfire patter
fairly closely. It's Iago they have trouble with.
As for the Aladdin comic books...I'll always have a soft spot
for the Disney Comics one, since it was the first mass-market
commercial comics work my fan-buddy John Ott had a chance to
do, after working with me on an independent black and white.
I knew somebody working at Disney Comics, they needed a couple
of covers for the Aladdin comic, I knew John, and it all came
together. I believe the covers were gone over by Disney staffer
Phil Ortiz to make the characters more "on model," as they say.
--Dwight Decker
> Subject: Disney's Aladdin Comics
> I am a avid collector of Aladdin comics and would like to start a
> discussion about them. It was my favorite movie and I collect
comics,
> videos and books about him. Does anybody have any info about his
comics,
> and Disney's Aladdin artist/writers.
>
Wow! It must be nice to be so enthusiastic about _anything_
these days!
I'm not an expert on Aladdin myself. It was one more Disney
movie out of many in the current wave of one a year, more or
less, though probably better than last couple. I recall hearing
that Aladdin was made specifically as a "boys' movie," because
somebody (Katzenberg? Eisner?) thought that Little Mermaid
and Beauty & the Beast had been "girls' movies." I also heard
that there was an attempt in Aladdin to aim for the more frenetic
Looney Tunes style. Anyway, those are just rumors I heard, and
may not be true. I've seen Aladdin in several other languages,
by the way, and too my surprise, the genie is pretty well done
in all of them, matching Robin Williams's rapidfire patter
fairly closely. It's Iago they have trouble with.
As for the Aladdin comic books...I'll always have a soft spot
for the Disney Comics one, since it was the first mass-market
commercial comics work my fan-buddy John Ott had a chance to
do, after working with me on an independent black and white.
I knew somebody working at Disney Comics, they needed a couple
of covers for the Aladdin comic, I knew John, and it all came
together. I believe the covers were gone over by Disney staffer
Phil Ortiz to make the characters more "on model," as they say.
--Dwight Decker
Deckerd
Asterix and Disney
Message 229 -
1997-01-22 at 20:49:13
On Jan 22, 4:04am, Didier Ghez wrote:
> I think it was Jakob who recently expressed his suprise at
> the fact that
> Asterix videos were distributed by Disney in the US.
>
It's not really all that surprising. In the US, Disney has both
a cable-TV channel and a home-video company. Both need a lot of
product to sell, and Disney product alone isn't enough. So it's
probably only good business sense to get the rights to TV shows
and movies produced by presumed "competitors," since the material
would be similar to Disney's own productions. Disney was recently
in the news for picking up the video rights to the films of
Japanese animation director Hiyao Miyazaki, which are definitely
in the Disney ballpark (and reportedly studied by Disney's own
animators).
> But the most surprising is that he said that one of his dreams most
dear to
> his heart would be to see Disney make an adaptation of his character.
That
> will probably never happen, though, as Asterix is not that popular in
the
> US and as Uderzo wanted to keep the licensing rights on his
character.
>
Asterix isn't popular in the US _at all_. Several attempts to
introduce the character here by way of the albums have gone nowhere,
and even exposure of the character on the Disney Channel with the
Asterix movies has not resulted in any interest on the part of
the public. I wish it were otherwise... I know a few serious,
longtime comics fans who follow the series avidly, but as far
as the general public is concerned, Asterix doesn't exist. About
the only series from the Franco-Belgian comics industry to ever
make much of an impact here was the Smurfs (les Schtroumpfs). A
well-made series of Tintin films was shown a few years ago, but
again had little effect. Nor have translations of European comics
albums sold very well. Disney's effort to do something with the
Marsupilami alone (and not Spirou and Fantasio) met only yawning
indifference. It's too bad...
--Dwight Decker
> I think it was Jakob who recently expressed his suprise at
> the fact that
> Asterix videos were distributed by Disney in the US.
>
It's not really all that surprising. In the US, Disney has both
a cable-TV channel and a home-video company. Both need a lot of
product to sell, and Disney product alone isn't enough. So it's
probably only good business sense to get the rights to TV shows
and movies produced by presumed "competitors," since the material
would be similar to Disney's own productions. Disney was recently
in the news for picking up the video rights to the films of
Japanese animation director Hiyao Miyazaki, which are definitely
in the Disney ballpark (and reportedly studied by Disney's own
animators).
> But the most surprising is that he said that one of his dreams most
dear to
> his heart would be to see Disney make an adaptation of his character.
That
> will probably never happen, though, as Asterix is not that popular in
the
> US and as Uderzo wanted to keep the licensing rights on his
character.
>
Asterix isn't popular in the US _at all_. Several attempts to
introduce the character here by way of the albums have gone nowhere,
and even exposure of the character on the Disney Channel with the
Asterix movies has not resulted in any interest on the part of
the public. I wish it were otherwise... I know a few serious,
longtime comics fans who follow the series avidly, but as far
as the general public is concerned, Asterix doesn't exist. About
the only series from the Franco-Belgian comics industry to ever
make much of an impact here was the Smurfs (les Schtroumpfs). A
well-made series of Tintin films was shown a few years ago, but
again had little effect. Nor have translations of European comics
albums sold very well. Disney's effort to do something with the
Marsupilami alone (and not Spirou and Fantasio) met only yawning
indifference. It's too bad...
--Dwight Decker
Sschridde
Nephews
Message 230 -
1997-01-22 at 23:56:00
Daniel:
In German the bumping nephew-story (WDC 97) is "Das Perlenwunder", but nope,
still not "my" panel :((
Someday I'll find it!
Soeren
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End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #20
*****************************************
In German the bumping nephew-story (WDC 97) is "Das Perlenwunder", but nope,
still not "my" panel :((
Someday I'll find it!
Soeren
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End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #20
*****************************************
Shaun M. Knowler
Better than ownership of North America...
Message 231 -
1997-01-23 at 01:14:05
GLADSTONE:
Re: The [unserialized] Lost Charts of Columbus
THANK YOU!
That thank you also extends to "A Matter of Some Gravity" which hasn't hit
my comic store yet.
(BTW Don...Great story!)
:)
-Shaun
Re: The [unserialized] Lost Charts of Columbus
THANK YOU!
That thank you also extends to "A Matter of Some Gravity" which hasn't hit
my comic store yet.
(BTW Don...Great story!)
:)
-Shaun
Aaron Aldridge
Cinerama
Message 232 -
1997-01-23 at 01:32:58
Carey:
Although this is getting off topic, I'll put my two cents in. the name
Cinerama, to my understanding, was licensed for a few years after
authentic Cinerama movies were no longer made. 2001 licensed the name,
but was not shot in Cinerama. Unless, of course, I'm mistaken. I
recently saw 2001 in Dayton, Ohio (my hometown), where it was shown on
the curved Cinerama screen. However, since it was not shot in Cinerama,
but was meant to be shown on a flat screen, the edges of the screen were
out of focus. Still great to see it on the big screen though.
Aaron
Although this is getting off topic, I'll put my two cents in. the name
Cinerama, to my understanding, was licensed for a few years after
authentic Cinerama movies were no longer made. 2001 licensed the name,
but was not shot in Cinerama. Unless, of course, I'm mistaken. I
recently saw 2001 in Dayton, Ohio (my hometown), where it was shown on
the curved Cinerama screen. However, since it was not shot in Cinerama,
but was meant to be shown on a flat screen, the edges of the screen were
out of focus. Still great to see it on the big screen though.
Aaron
Procm
ROSA YOU ARE THE NEXT BARKS
Message 233 -
1997-01-23 at 01:56:24
Dear dona rosa,
Hi my name is Mike Prochaska and I am a diehard Disney comics fan. You
are my favorite Disney comic artist! I loved your Uncle scrooge Life and
times stories. I am a history major at Loras college in dubuque Iowa and
I loved how you use real people from history in your storys. I think that
the disney company that products comics here in America should print
more of your storys in there comic book here. I love them. YOU ARE THE
NEXT BARKS!!!!! Will you or any of your art work at the musuem come to
IL, wisconson or Iowa? I have been reading disney comics since I was 10
and I was about to quit reading them until I stumpled onto your Uncle
scrooge story. Thanks for writing and creating new storys. Without you
Uncle scrooge and Donald would not be as great as they are. OH ya I also
liked your story were they go into the center of the earth. Sorry if I
kind of rambled.
Mike prochaska
loras college
po box 1167
Dubuque Iowa 52004
(Email removed)
Hi my name is Mike Prochaska and I am a diehard Disney comics fan. You
are my favorite Disney comic artist! I loved your Uncle scrooge Life and
times stories. I am a history major at Loras college in dubuque Iowa and
I loved how you use real people from history in your storys. I think that
the disney company that products comics here in America should print
more of your storys in there comic book here. I love them. YOU ARE THE
NEXT BARKS!!!!! Will you or any of your art work at the musuem come to
IL, wisconson or Iowa? I have been reading disney comics since I was 10
and I was about to quit reading them until I stumpled onto your Uncle
scrooge story. Thanks for writing and creating new storys. Without you
Uncle scrooge and Donald would not be as great as they are. OH ya I also
liked your story were they go into the center of the earth. Sorry if I
kind of rambled.
Mike prochaska
loras college
po box 1167
Dubuque Iowa 52004
(Email removed)
Dan Shane
Disney comics Digest V97 #20
Message 234 -
1997-01-23 at 02:25:26
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CAREY FURLONG:
I hesitate to continue the discussion on Cinerama since it has no bearing
on Disney comics. But, like Don, I'm so scared of its second demise that
I'll brave Per's wrath.
Only 2 feature films were made in the 3 strip process -- HOW THE WEST WAS
WON and THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF THE BROTHERS GRIMM. 2001 - A SPACE ODYSSEY
was filmed in Super Panavision 70. Cinerama continued as a releasing
company after abandoning the 3-camera process, and several films carried
the eye-catching CINERAMA logo, from IT'S A MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD WORLD in
1963 to THE GREAT WALTZ in 1972.
I won't take up more space, except to say any who are interested in
Cinerama and other widescreen film methods should visit the Wide Gauge Film
Web page at http://users.aol.com/widegauge/
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CAREY FURLONG:
I hesitate to continue the discussion on Cinerama since it has no bearing
on Disney comics. But, like Don, I'm so scared of its second demise that
I'll brave Per's wrath.
Only 2 feature films were made in the 3 strip process -- HOW THE WEST WAS
WON and THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF THE BROTHERS GRIMM. 2001 - A SPACE ODYSSEY
was filmed in Super Panavision 70. Cinerama continued as a releasing
company after abandoning the 3-camera process, and several films carried
the eye-catching CINERAMA logo, from IT'S A MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD WORLD in
1963 to THE GREAT WALTZ in 1972.
I won't take up more space, except to say any who are interested in
Cinerama and other widescreen film methods should visit the Wide Gauge Film
Web page at http://users.aol.com/widegauge/
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V97 #20
Message 235 -
1997-01-23 at 07:35:30
CAREY:
(I almost thought I should post this provately, since I've started a
non-Disney snowball rolling with this Cinerama mention, but I don't want
anyone to be mislead by wrong info.)
The fact that you actually seem to recall that you saw "2001" in Cinerama
must be proof that Hollywood hype sometimes works. "2001" was most
definitely *not* filmed in Cinerama. Neither was IT'S A MAD MAD MAD MAD
WORLD. But BOTH of those movies had the word "Cinerama" in all their ads.
Watch either of those movies on tape or disc today and you don't see the
intersection of 3 images as you do with HTWWW or (the only other Cinerama
"story"movie) THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF THE BROTHERS GRIMM when you see either
of the latter on TV. HTWWW had proved that Cinerama was just too costly and
troublesome to have a future in "story" motion pictures, but the name
"Cinerama", which was a major buzz-word of the 50s, still had the power to
draw in a few extra viewers. So Stanley Kramer (MAD WORLD) and Stanley
Kubrick (2001) both paid a licensing fee to use the name "Cinerama" in their
ads. (Apparently people named Stanley K-something got a price break to use
the term?) But get out your program book -- it does not say "IN Cinerama",
it just says "Cinerama". Those two movies were filmed in another special,
very nice (but very ordinary) wide-screen process like Ultra-Panavision or
Cinemascope-70, like BEN-HUR was. This would seem to be a pretty sleazy way
to trick movie-goers, but that's what they did.
You may have seen "2001" projected onto a Cinerama screen that they hadn't
torn down yet, but it was all comin' outta ONE projector. And they might
have had the sound coming out of the 7 Cinerama speakers, but there were not
7 individual sound tracks as in Cinerama-sound. (Cinerama-sound took an
actual additional roll of film just to hold it, rather than being included
on the movie-image reel as in normal movies (even though they had 3 of 'em
with Cinerama.) I'd hate to think so, but they must have chopped off the top
and bottom of the image if they filled all 146 degrees of that Cinerama
screen. Actually... I would guess that filming a special effects movie in
actual Cinerama was quite impossible in 1967 -- that would have taken
today's computers to pull off.
If you go on to say that you actually recall turning around and seeing three
independant projectors chugging away and pumping out "2001", I'd have to
start wondering if it was possible that they took the single-camera image
and split it onto 3 separate films (still lopping off the top and bottom).
But this would be an insane notion and impossibly expensive for a
one-theater showing. Why add that irritating junction of the 3 images when
it isn't there normally? Nah... that would be nuts.
(Sorry about this, non-movie buffs. Now, back to our regularly scheduled
program.)
(I almost thought I should post this provately, since I've started a
non-Disney snowball rolling with this Cinerama mention, but I don't want
anyone to be mislead by wrong info.)
The fact that you actually seem to recall that you saw "2001" in Cinerama
must be proof that Hollywood hype sometimes works. "2001" was most
definitely *not* filmed in Cinerama. Neither was IT'S A MAD MAD MAD MAD
WORLD. But BOTH of those movies had the word "Cinerama" in all their ads.
Watch either of those movies on tape or disc today and you don't see the
intersection of 3 images as you do with HTWWW or (the only other Cinerama
"story"movie) THE WONDERFUL WORLD OF THE BROTHERS GRIMM when you see either
of the latter on TV. HTWWW had proved that Cinerama was just too costly and
troublesome to have a future in "story" motion pictures, but the name
"Cinerama", which was a major buzz-word of the 50s, still had the power to
draw in a few extra viewers. So Stanley Kramer (MAD WORLD) and Stanley
Kubrick (2001) both paid a licensing fee to use the name "Cinerama" in their
ads. (Apparently people named Stanley K-something got a price break to use
the term?) But get out your program book -- it does not say "IN Cinerama",
it just says "Cinerama". Those two movies were filmed in another special,
very nice (but very ordinary) wide-screen process like Ultra-Panavision or
Cinemascope-70, like BEN-HUR was. This would seem to be a pretty sleazy way
to trick movie-goers, but that's what they did.
You may have seen "2001" projected onto a Cinerama screen that they hadn't
torn down yet, but it was all comin' outta ONE projector. And they might
have had the sound coming out of the 7 Cinerama speakers, but there were not
7 individual sound tracks as in Cinerama-sound. (Cinerama-sound took an
actual additional roll of film just to hold it, rather than being included
on the movie-image reel as in normal movies (even though they had 3 of 'em
with Cinerama.) I'd hate to think so, but they must have chopped off the top
and bottom of the image if they filled all 146 degrees of that Cinerama
screen. Actually... I would guess that filming a special effects movie in
actual Cinerama was quite impossible in 1967 -- that would have taken
today's computers to pull off.
If you go on to say that you actually recall turning around and seeing three
independant projectors chugging away and pumping out "2001", I'd have to
start wondering if it was possible that they took the single-camera image
and split it onto 3 separate films (still lopping off the top and bottom).
But this would be an insane notion and impossibly expensive for a
one-theater showing. Why add that irritating junction of the 3 images when
it isn't there normally? Nah... that would be nuts.
(Sorry about this, non-movie buffs. Now, back to our regularly scheduled
program.)
David Gerstein
Weird Aladdin comics, Asterix/Tintin
Message 236 -
1997-01-23 at 08:56:03
JOHN F. HALEY:
>After the first movie there have been many different adventures written about
>this character. Is it true that the original character was developed
>after the
>actor Tom Cruise?
Well -- and Harry will correct me if I'm wrong -- the original
model for Aladdin was a little lankier, and thus developed by Disney comics
creator Daan Jippes during his sojourn with the features division in
Burbank. Later on the Cruise influence gained favor with the folks in
charge of the picture, and some completed scenes were re-animated here and
there to capture more of that (you can see a scrawnier and slightly goofier
Aladdin if you still-frame parts of the "Friend Like Me" sequence, though).
The series Dwight mentioned is for me the most interesting Aladdin
comic work, too, because it's an attempt to do a sequel long before
Disney's TV arm actually decided to do so. Some elements that later found
their way into "Return of Jafar" appear in this version (Disney Comics'
RETURN OF ALADDIN #1 and 2, 1992), but there are some interesting
discrepancies. As a result, ROA #1-2 become an amalgam, a "what-if" story
that doesn't jibe with Aladdin's "life after the movie" as it's now been
canonized.
A few examples? The Genie loses the shackles he wore on his
wrists, which returned (a "stylistic choice") in the animated sequels.
Iago remains a villain in ROA #1-2, being banished to the Cave of Wonders
at the end of the story. More oddly, the guy whom genie-Jafar uses as his
patsy (_not_ Abis Mal) looks enough like Jafar's original human form to be
his clone, and none of the heroes even raises an eyebrow. I suspect that
the script didn't indicate the visual similarity that the artists went for.
DWIGHT:
>Asterix isn't popular in the US _at all_. Several attempts to
>introduce the character here by way of the albums have gone nowhere
[snip]
>A well-made series of Tintin films was shown a few years ago, but
>again had little effect . . .
While I'm sure neither of us is satisfied with these characters'
amount of popularity (or lack thereof) in the US of A, I'm concerned you
may be selling them a little short. Every kid I knew back in grade school
read Asterix and Tintin albums, my local bookstores here in Santa Barbara
are full of them (one even has a special rack designed for the series), and
the Tintin cartoons (on HBO, then on Nickelodeon) were a moderate success.
The Asterix cartoons' failure here surprises me less. I'm sure
I've been "conditioned" by Disney and Warners, but the pacing, music, and
storytelling style of the Asterix films seems a little meandering. It's a
shame, because they're clearly trying very hard to "do it right" and have
some superior talent involved.
Up Gaul!
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
>After the first movie there have been many different adventures written about
>this character. Is it true that the original character was developed
>after the
>actor Tom Cruise?
Well -- and Harry will correct me if I'm wrong -- the original
model for Aladdin was a little lankier, and thus developed by Disney comics
creator Daan Jippes during his sojourn with the features division in
Burbank. Later on the Cruise influence gained favor with the folks in
charge of the picture, and some completed scenes were re-animated here and
there to capture more of that (you can see a scrawnier and slightly goofier
Aladdin if you still-frame parts of the "Friend Like Me" sequence, though).
The series Dwight mentioned is for me the most interesting Aladdin
comic work, too, because it's an attempt to do a sequel long before
Disney's TV arm actually decided to do so. Some elements that later found
their way into "Return of Jafar" appear in this version (Disney Comics'
RETURN OF ALADDIN #1 and 2, 1992), but there are some interesting
discrepancies. As a result, ROA #1-2 become an amalgam, a "what-if" story
that doesn't jibe with Aladdin's "life after the movie" as it's now been
canonized.
A few examples? The Genie loses the shackles he wore on his
wrists, which returned (a "stylistic choice") in the animated sequels.
Iago remains a villain in ROA #1-2, being banished to the Cave of Wonders
at the end of the story. More oddly, the guy whom genie-Jafar uses as his
patsy (_not_ Abis Mal) looks enough like Jafar's original human form to be
his clone, and none of the heroes even raises an eyebrow. I suspect that
the script didn't indicate the visual similarity that the artists went for.
DWIGHT:
>Asterix isn't popular in the US _at all_. Several attempts to
>introduce the character here by way of the albums have gone nowhere
[snip]
>A well-made series of Tintin films was shown a few years ago, but
>again had little effect . . .
While I'm sure neither of us is satisfied with these characters'
amount of popularity (or lack thereof) in the US of A, I'm concerned you
may be selling them a little short. Every kid I knew back in grade school
read Asterix and Tintin albums, my local bookstores here in Santa Barbara
are full of them (one even has a special rack designed for the series), and
the Tintin cartoons (on HBO, then on Nickelodeon) were a moderate success.
The Asterix cartoons' failure here surprises me less. I'm sure
I've been "conditioned" by Disney and Warners, but the pacing, music, and
storytelling style of the Asterix films seems a little meandering. It's a
shame, because they're clearly trying very hard to "do it right" and have
some superior talent involved.
Up Gaul!
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Fabio Gadducci
Angouleme
Message 237 -
1997-01-23 at 09:32:35
Hi, folks.
Just a brief delurking, to tell you that I'll spend the next days in
Angouleme. If anyone in the list is coming there, we could meet, let us say
in the press lobby on Thursday at 3 o'clock in the afetrnoon. OR you could
leave me a message there in my mail-box.
See you there,
Fabio
PS Maestri Disney was delayed due to a illness of Lidia Cannatella, who is
the editor. I'm sure it is the fault of our evil list member... :-)
Just a brief delurking, to tell you that I'll spend the next days in
Angouleme. If anyone in the list is coming there, we could meet, let us say
in the press lobby on Thursday at 3 o'clock in the afetrnoon. OR you could
leave me a message there in my mail-box.
See you there,
Fabio
PS Maestri Disney was delayed due to a illness of Lidia Cannatella, who is
the editor. I'm sure it is the fault of our evil list member... :-)
Marco Barlotti
A Disney Asterix???
Message 238 -
1997-01-23 at 13:21:52
On Jan 22, 4:04am, Didier Ghez wrote:
> But the most surprising is that he [Uderzo] said that one of his dreams most
dear to
> his heart would be to see Disney make an adaptation of his character
[Asterix].
>
Surprising indeed! If you think what Disney has done to Collodi's Pinocchio,
Carrol's Alice and so on, I can hardly believe that ANY author would want
his creature "adapted" by Disney!
Beware: I am **not** questioning the value of Disney's <Pinocchio>, <Alice>
and so on. Only, I don't believe that those "adaptations" rendered a good
service to the original characters! They are **so** different from the
original! So I dread what could become of Asterix. And I LIKE Asterix! Which
I suppose Uderzo does too! Then why spoil it?
Marco
> But the most surprising is that he [Uderzo] said that one of his dreams most
dear to
> his heart would be to see Disney make an adaptation of his character
[Asterix].
>
Surprising indeed! If you think what Disney has done to Collodi's Pinocchio,
Carrol's Alice and so on, I can hardly believe that ANY author would want
his creature "adapted" by Disney!
Beware: I am **not** questioning the value of Disney's <Pinocchio>, <Alice>
and so on. Only, I don't believe that those "adaptations" rendered a good
service to the original characters! They are **so** different from the
original! So I dread what could become of Asterix. And I LIKE Asterix! Which
I suppose Uderzo does too! Then why spoil it?
Marco
Per Starback
Disney comics Digest V97 #19
Message 239 -
1997-01-23 at 16:21:19
A long message quoting the entire previous digest appeared, and Don wrote:
> Fer the luvva god, unsubscribe "Christy Padgett" before she strikes again!!!!!
Sorry! Normally I have a size limit on messages to avoid that sort of
thing. Really long messages don't make it to the list before I have
okayed them. (And that's the reason for some of the delayed messages
folks here have noticed.) I had forgot to replace that limit after
temporarily removing it when letting through a legit long message.
> Fer the luvva god, unsubscribe "Christy Padgett" before she strikes again!!!!!
Sorry! Normally I have a size limit on messages to avoid that sort of
thing. Really long messages don't make it to the list before I have
okayed them. (And that's the reason for some of the delayed messages
folks here have noticed.) I had forgot to replace that limit after
temporarily removing it when letting through a legit long message.
Didier Ghez
Picsou, Rockerduck and more
Message 240 -
1997-01-23 at 17:35:44
Hi,
DON
Well yes, one of the possible meanings of Picsou is "to steal coins", an
other one would be "to pick up or to grab coins", the pun probably also
plays on the fact that he is a bird and that he could peck at grains
"picorer". I had chosen the meaning "to steal coins" as it gave more sense
to the anecdote about the bank involved in Picsou's launch.
VILLE SAARI
Michel told me that the Finish first name of Rockerduck might be a
coincidence but it might also be due to the fact that he had often
discussed his choice during publishers conventions, especially with Markkus
Kivekas who was (is ?) the editor of the Finish Donald Duck magazine.
Michel had hesitated for a while between Cresus and Midas, but he thought
at the end that that was a bad idea as Midas is not supposed to survive. He
even thought about calling Picsou "Midas Picsou", but realised it would
have been even worse.
CARSTEN
What kind of comics will you try to find in Paris ? French ones ? American
ones ? Albums ? Magazines ?
All the best
Didier
DON
Well yes, one of the possible meanings of Picsou is "to steal coins", an
other one would be "to pick up or to grab coins", the pun probably also
plays on the fact that he is a bird and that he could peck at grains
"picorer". I had chosen the meaning "to steal coins" as it gave more sense
to the anecdote about the bank involved in Picsou's launch.
VILLE SAARI
Michel told me that the Finish first name of Rockerduck might be a
coincidence but it might also be due to the fact that he had often
discussed his choice during publishers conventions, especially with Markkus
Kivekas who was (is ?) the editor of the Finish Donald Duck magazine.
Michel had hesitated for a while between Cresus and Midas, but he thought
at the end that that was a bad idea as Midas is not supposed to survive. He
even thought about calling Picsou "Midas Picsou", but realised it would
have been even worse.
CARSTEN
What kind of comics will you try to find in Paris ? French ones ? American
ones ? Albums ? Magazines ?
All the best
Didier