Keskustelujen arkisto

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21
Author

Topic: 199701

(301 messages)
Arthur De Wolf
Hi!

LAURANT:
> AOL's server was down yesterday, and all messages sent my
> way got lost.
Yeah ... I saw on the news that AOL in the States was having
problems! But I thought you were from France? Or are you living in
the States or are you just using an American mail-server?

Arthur de Wolf
Fabrizio Cellerini
DAVID:

> I'd like to propose this particular story to Gladstone, but if it's
> completely contrary to most Brigitta stories, perhaps it shouldn't be used
> as one of her first-ever appearances here. What do our Italian members
> think?

IMHO Gladstone should publish "Zio Paperone e il ratto di Brigitta"
because:

-It is the second Brigitta's appearance (after "The last Balaboo"), so
chronology would not suffer. :-)

-It is the first Jubal's appaerance.

-The character page says that Jubal SOMETIMES helps Brigitta; this does
not mean it has to happen all the times, does it ? Maybe they just made
friends with each other AFTER their first meeting.

-Stories in which they are in league against Scrooge (mostly by
Cimino/Scarpa) are tipical of the mid 60ies and 70ies (e.g. "ZP e le
scarpe integrate" I-792) ; in this earlier stage, maybe Brigitta and
Jubal's personalities had not been well developed yet, but I think it is
correct showing to (American) readers how they were since the beginning.

-The central point in Jubal's personality is that he is an unfair
businessman (man ?!) who believes getting as rich as Scrooge is very
easy, if you only use "tough" methods. But he does not realize how much
skill and hard work are behind Scrooge's wealth.
All these points can be found in "Il ratto di Brigitta", so I would say
that story is rather "representative" of Jubal as a Disney character.
Brigitta is not very different from her later stories either; so I would
not say she is "completely contrary to most Brigitta stories".

-It is a very good story (well, it is by Scarpa The Great...)

-BTW, although there is no clear evidence of this in the story, when I
first read it, I had the feeling that Brigitta was pretending to be
kidnapped by Jubal...

Hope this helps,

Fabrizio.

P.S. GLADSTONE: When are you publishing Scarpa's masterpieces "La
leggenda di Paperin Hood" - I-228-229 ("The legend of Donald Hood") or
"P. e la leggenda dello Scozzese volante" - I-174-175 ("The legend of
the flying Scot") ?
Frank Stajano
Apologies to all for absence from the list, but it's for a good cause (the
Italian book on Don Rosa, coming out this May, is taking all my spare
time). I'm not *even* lurking -- many digests sadly accumulate in their
folder and stay unread -- but I happened to read this one and notice a
couple of things I might comment on.

DAVID:
Yes, given your description of the plot, the story is indeed "Zio Paperone
e il ratto di Brigitta", by Scarpa/Scarpa. I-272-A is an extrapolated code:
they didn't have story codes back then.

I thought I had just read a Gladstone reprint of that last week! But no, I
was confusing with another foreign reprint (a French one, in fact) of
similar format.

> I'd like to propose this particular story to Gladstone, but if it's
>completely contrary to most Brigitta stories, perhaps it shouldn't be used
>as one of her first-ever appearances here. What do our Italian members
>think?

I wouldn't say "completely contrary to most Brigitta stories". The attitude
of Brigitta towards $crooge (love with little or no acks) and that of Filo
Sganga (JC) towards $ (competitiveness marred by incompetence) are pretty
much the same as what they'll always be from then on. It's just the
attitude of Filo towards Brigitta that's different: that's because they
hadn't yet discovered that they could join their forces to try to win Scrooge.

It's true, however, that a "first story" like this one becomes more
interesting and valuable once people are more familiar with the characters.
Perhaps if other Brigitta & Filo stories were presented first, then the
historical value of this one (first appearance of Filo) would be better felt.

DANIEL:
>Is there a Carl Barks Library owner with a scanner? I would be very
>grateful if someone could send me scans of the slipcase-covers of
>set 1, 3 and 8.

I can do that for you, Daniel: just let me know how big (in pixels) you
want them.

PER:
Just as a confirmation, I for one got 24 but no 23, at least at the time of
writing.

Frank (filologo disneyano) http://www.orl.co.uk/~fms/
BBranvold
This may seem petty, but...I noticed in Rosa's recent story released in the
U.S.
this week, a slight error. I observed on page 13 or so, the jeep has a
shovel mounted on its passenger side. The panel just below shows the
driver's side
with obviously no shovel mounted. The next page has the shovel magically
moved
to the driver's side. The D.U.C.K on the cover has the C blotted out by the
price logo. Doesn't Gladstone know any better.

"I don't know about status, but I own the hotel" Scrooge McDuck
Georges Helm
>Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 08:08:29
>To: (Email removed)
>From: Georges Helm <(Email removed)>
>Subject: Barks library with scanner
>
>I have both. What format and what measures do you need?
>
>Georges
>
>>Hi!
>>
>>Is there a Carl Barks Library owner with a scanner? I would be very
>>grateful if someone could send me scans of the slipcase-covers of
>>set 1, 3 and 8.
>>
>>If you can, please contact me.
>>
>>I need them for my upcoming Barks-homepage.
>>
>>
>>Greetings,
>>
>>--- Daniel
>

(Email removed)
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Georges_Helm
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/2715
GaryB98294
I've been far too quiet on this list, but mundane matters eat up time.
One question: I've missed two issues of Uncle $crooge Adventures (#43 and
44). Anyone have easy access to them -- I'll pay costs, price, etc.
Was pleased to see Gladstone will return to the $1.95 format. Being in the
newspaper business, I know how hard the newprint price increases hit my
profession. I suspect that for a survival move, going to the "coverless"
comics was a needed effort. As much as I dislike those books, I understand.
Arthur De Wolf
I'm sorry about this off-topic topic, but I want to get in touch
with someone in the United States (or Canada) who has a PAL-system VCR
and is capable of taping or copying PAL-videos for me!
Please write me in private email if you can help me!

Arthur de Wolf -- (Email removed)
TKlein28
WILMER:

Thanks for mentioning my birthday...it was a regular work day for me, but my
wife Ellen took me to dinner last weekend and gave me some fine gifts.

I've finished lettering "Vigilante of Pizen Bluff", and it's now in
Gladstone's hands. It's a fine rootin' tootin' western.

ALL:

If there's a party for ME, I wasn't invited either! Per, you probably need to
resend #23.

Todd
Don Rosa
ANYONE:

Can someone tell me where I might have a photo of Ted Osborne and-slash-or
Al Taliaferro. I probably have it in some book or magazine or fanzine or
Another Rainbow/Gladstone publication, but it's easier to check to see if
someone here happens to know exactly where to look rather than me wasting
hours paging through stuff.
Marco Barlotti
David wrote:

> I recently acquired the German LUSTIGE TASCHENBUCH #79, which among
>other stories contains one that (although it's printed with no code) I
>suspect to be I 272-A

and indeed it's I-272-A.

> I'd like to propose this particular story to Gladstone, but if it's
>completely contrary to most Brigitta stories, perhaps it shouldn't be used
>as one of her first-ever appearances here.

This is the second appearance ever of Brigitta, and the first appearance of
Jubal Cock. You will have noticed that, as usual with Scarpa, Jubal Cock is
introduced as a character $crooge has always known; the same was done a
little earlier with Brigitta, in "last Balaboo".
I would strongly recommend this story for publishing, since it's a good
story and (Frank forgive me!) drawn in what was TO ME Scarpa's best drawing
style.
Since, as far as I know, Gladstone has published "last Balaboo" as the only
Brigitta story up to now (am I wrong?), it would be completely all right to
have I-272-A as a follow-up.
But will Disney allow the masked man pointing a rifle to the ducks?

Marco

--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #25
*****************************************
Wilmer Rivers
Marco Barlotti writes of I-272-A:

> This is the second appearance ever of Brigitta, and the first
> appearance of Jubal Cock.
[snip]
> I would strongly recommend this story for publishing,
[snip]
> But will Disney allow the masked man pointing a rifle to the ducks?

An even bigger question: would a company that wouldn't allow the use
of characters called "harpies", since at some remote time in the past
in some distant place that was a slang term for prostitutes, now allow
a character to be called "Jubal Cock"?

I have my doubts.

Wilmer Rivers
Crowt
> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 14:16:26 -0500 (EST)
> From: (Email removed)
> To: (Email removed)
> Subject: Here's a really Dumb Question for ya

> I know this will sound dube, but where do you find Disney Comics? I have
> looked in many stores and have found nothing. Can anyone help me with this?

> Thanks in advance!

This is a rather less-than-auspicious way to make my first posting to
the list, but in answer to the above:

Many high volume chain bookstores like Books-a-Million, Waldenbooks,
Barnes & Nobles, etc. also carry the Gladstone Disney books. Of course,
one had to look through the stacks for decent copies, since the
self-covered books were often torn when perusers would try to replace
copies in the holding rack. Ah well, thank goodness that all passes with
the reintroduction of the $1.95 books.

BTW, does anyone here have the completely assembled Duckburg map from
when Disney Comics published it page by page in multiple books way back
when?

-Ken
"Trying to work smarter but finding it that much harder."
Don Rosa
HARRY:
Yes! The Scandanavian covers (especially the Norwegian cover) for my "Lost
Charts of Columbus" was scanned by some sortuva lousy computer program or
some dang thing. When I went over to promote the publication last year, I
looked at the comic and looked again and said "Hey! I didn't draw this!
Somebody traced my cover and did a sorry job. It's even worse than MY art!".
Which perplexed everyone since they knew that wasn't the case. The program
they used dropped out the tiny lines and thickened everything else... and
made all my smooth lines very angular. The result looks like an ancient
woodcutting. Then, apparently when they did the coloring, the colorist must
have filled in broken lines to "contain" the color. The thing that caught my
eye in particular was Azure's goatee -- in my original art it's a
fine-haired long goatee, but on the Norwegian cover it looks exactly like
somebody jammed a piece of broken glass into Azure's chin. Ouch. But... that
may happen again since I have no control over how they color or print those
issues.

Yes, Donald finds the Brendan Cross very easilly! The reason for this is the
same as usual. I could only devote ONE panel to it, not a page or two. What
choice do I have? My ideas are just too complex for my page counts.

How authentic is that story? The part about Olaf the Blue is "authentic" to
Barks. The ending that you liked is all made up. But 100% of the rest of the
story is absolutely authentic to actual history. All of the people mentioned
actually existed and went on voyages of discovery and found SOMETHING
interesting. There are historians who feel there is evidence that each or
all of those people discovered America before the Vikings. But there is only
absolutely positive evidence for the Vikings. I make up nothing when I do
historical stories. Wait till you see the "El Dorado" story. You won't
believe it's all based on actual fact. It's the most amazing stuff I've ever
come across in my researchs. Why it hasn't been made into a movie is beyond me.

Also, I am such a Columbus buff that I have another really KEEN Columbus
tale up my sleeve... but I need to sit on it for a few years since I just
did that one. I hope I can keep drawing for all that time while sitting on
my sleeve. Ouch. Better I should jam a piece of broken glass into my chin.

BARRY:
So, they took that shovel off between panels and USED it and didn't put it
back. Or a peon swiped it between panels when no one was looking. And there
was a second shovel on t'other side. Prove me wrong! Nyah!
Gary Leach
I'm also looking forward to our reprinting of His Majesty McDuck, because
then we'll have a reference to that story that doesn't involve having to
look at that appallingly colored cover! Of all the horrors perpetrated over
the years by my cover coloring technique, that one is by far the worst.

DAVID:

> I'd like to propose this particular story to Gladstone, but if it's
> completely contrary to most Brigitta stories, perhaps it shouldn't be used
> as one of her first-ever appearances here. What do our Italian members
> think?

As you no doubt know, Brigitta's very first appearance in a Gladstone comic
(was it her very first in a US Disney comic?) was Uncle Scrooge #242, the
last issue of Uncle Scrooge in Gladstone's original run (April 1990). The
story was "The Last Balaboo," and it kinda threw Brigitta in at the deep
end, as far as introducing her to US readers.

The book also featured a one-page gag drawn by Don Rosa for Oberon, which I
mention for the benefit of anyone who may hold that, had Disney not horned
in for three years, Don might still be working for us, rather than Egmont.
Fact is, Don's eventual professional migration to Egmont - and William Van
Horn's, for that matter - was, all things considered, inevitable.

DWIGHT:

"Dr."? Boy, the things you find out about people when you hang out around
here. Anyway, Happy Birthday (belated)!

Gary

****************************
"Heads will swing!"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Daniel C. Kenny
Hi everyone. I haven't contributed in a while, but I've been following the
list. Not much to say today, but I *do* have one burning question that has
been puzzling me for a while. In "His Majesty, McDuck", who was the villian.
I read the story such along time ago, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't Glomgold.
Does anybody out there in Duckburg know?
I guess I'll find out later anyway with the new Rosa album special. Yesssss!
Good move Gladstone. Now, would there be any possiblity of publishing "Life of
$crooge" in one volume. Even if it's five years down the road, please say it's
so.
Oh, speaking of Lo$, Don, now that you've finished "Vigilante of Pizen Bluff",
do you think you're going to do any additional Lo$ chapters? Maybe I'm getting
a little ahead of myself, I haven't even seen "Vigilante.." yet!

see you later

Dan Kenny
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21