Dear all
It is a long time since i have written, but I can tell you that I read =
every page in this list. As you maybe know, we in ECN , Egmont Comic =
Creation, new name for Egmont Publishing Service have a rating =
system.The ratings go from 1 very bad to 5 very good. We calculate in 2 =
ways one is the average, the other is how many % has said 5 absolute =
super. Normally we keep the results for ourselves, but in Mickey Maus nr =
46, there was a result that I think I will tell you about. The story by =
Pat McGreal and drawn by Vicar D 95196 Double duty, got 67% super. We =
had another story also in nr 46 by a certain Carl Barks W US 60 A The =
Phantom of Notre Duck, a very good story . The rating here was 58 % =
super. Congratulation to Pat,Vicar, Byron and all the professional =
people who helps us to follow our slogan. We do Worldclass Disney Comics =
No more no less. Did anyone mention dull, machineproduced stories from =
Egmont?
This was a nice way to close a bussy year with a production of more =
than 5000 pages
[ Here followed a copy of Digest #24 that I have removed. You'd
better find out why that was included in your posting, Per! /PS ]
Author
Topic: 199701
(301 messages)
Per Grubert
Disney comics Digest V97 #24
Message 286 -
1997-01-30 at 17:40:03
Harry Fluks
El Dorado etc.
Message 287 -
1997-01-30 at 18:54:00
DON:
> Wait till you see the "El Dorado" story.
El Dorado story? Is that what you're currently working on?
In the Rosa index, the following so-far-unpublished stories are listed:
"An Eye for Detail", a 10-page Donald story you made in 1994 (why hasn't it
been published yet?)
"The Invasion of the Hideous Space Varmints", 24-page Scrooge story
"A Little Something Special", 28-page Scrooge anniversary story
Anything else I have missed?
And are you going to do more work for France?
--Harry.
> Wait till you see the "El Dorado" story.
El Dorado story? Is that what you're currently working on?
In the Rosa index, the following so-far-unpublished stories are listed:
"An Eye for Detail", a 10-page Donald story you made in 1994 (why hasn't it
been published yet?)
"The Invasion of the Hideous Space Varmints", 24-page Scrooge story
"A Little Something Special", 28-page Scrooge anniversary story
Anything else I have missed?
And are you going to do more work for France?
--Harry.
David Gerstein
"A Cold Bargain" uncensored
Message 288 -
1997-01-30 at 19:33:25
GARY:
How on earth did Gladstone manage to publish an uncensored version
of "A Cold Bargain" in CBLUSA album #16? Great to see it... I never
thought I'd live to see a banned story get un-banned. What's the story
here?
Mystified,
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
How on earth did Gladstone manage to publish an uncensored version
of "A Cold Bargain" in CBLUSA album #16? Great to see it... I never
thought I'd live to see a banned story get un-banned. What's the story
here?
Mystified,
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Deckerd
Disney comics Digest V97 #25
Message 289 -
1997-01-30 at 19:40:53
On Jan 29, 3:53pm, Gary Leach wrote:
> DWIGHT:
>
> "Dr."? Boy, the things you find out about people when you hang out
around
> here. Anyway, Happy Birthday (belated)!
>
Thanks for the birf'day wishes, Gary! As for the doctor stuf'...
As Steven Rowe said, in my early days as a fan writer, I
had this idea that since my first two initials were "D. R.,"
I could play with my name and sign my articles as "Dr. Decker."
Then my brother got a PhD and was "Dr. Decker" for real. The
first time my mother forwarded mail to my brother that had been
addressed to Dr. Decker but had really been meant for me, she
rather irritatedly suggested that I not pretend to be something
I wasn't. What can I say? I was younger and stupider in those
days. How far would I have taken it had reality not set in? I
had gotten hold of a uniform catalog and had some idea of
ordering a doctor's white coat for convention appearances...
What I should have done was gotten a PhD in my own right, say,
in Medieval Icelandic Poetry. Then I could have been a real
Dr. Decker, and I might be here on this very ML discoursing
learnedly on what Barks and Rosa got wrong in their Viking
stories...
--Dwight Decker
> DWIGHT:
>
> "Dr."? Boy, the things you find out about people when you hang out
around
> here. Anyway, Happy Birthday (belated)!
>
Thanks for the birf'day wishes, Gary! As for the doctor stuf'...
As Steven Rowe said, in my early days as a fan writer, I
had this idea that since my first two initials were "D. R.,"
I could play with my name and sign my articles as "Dr. Decker."
Then my brother got a PhD and was "Dr. Decker" for real. The
first time my mother forwarded mail to my brother that had been
addressed to Dr. Decker but had really been meant for me, she
rather irritatedly suggested that I not pretend to be something
I wasn't. What can I say? I was younger and stupider in those
days. How far would I have taken it had reality not set in? I
had gotten hold of a uniform catalog and had some idea of
ordering a doctor's white coat for convention appearances...
What I should have done was gotten a PhD in my own right, say,
in Medieval Icelandic Poetry. Then I could have been a real
Dr. Decker, and I might be here on this very ML discoursing
learnedly on what Barks and Rosa got wrong in their Viking
stories...
--Dwight Decker
Eric Chun
(No subject)
Message 290 -
1997-01-30 at 21:08:18
ZeBeth350 wrote:
> I know this will sound dube, but where do you find Disney Comics?
> I have looked in many stores and have found nothing. Can anyone
> help me with this?
You might want to get subscriptions if your local comic stores don't
carry Disney comics. You might be able to get information on sub-
scriptions from Gladstone's web site.
Carsten wrote:
> I thought that it was a must with a list t-shirt!
Anyone volunteers to make a mailing list t-shirt?
In other news, Fan Award ballots have been included with this week's
Comics Buyer's Guide. Are we going to fix this year's awards, too?
(Just kidding.)
Eric =)
> I know this will sound dube, but where do you find Disney Comics?
> I have looked in many stores and have found nothing. Can anyone
> help me with this?
You might want to get subscriptions if your local comic stores don't
carry Disney comics. You might be able to get information on sub-
scriptions from Gladstone's web site.
Carsten wrote:
> I thought that it was a must with a list t-shirt!
Anyone volunteers to make a mailing list t-shirt?
In other news, Fan Award ballots have been included with this week's
Comics Buyer's Guide. Are we going to fix this year's awards, too?
(Just kidding.)
Eric =)
Harry Fluks
New version of Disney comics Database
Message 291 -
1997-01-31 at 00:14:41
A new version of the Disney comics Database has been uploaded to Per's
web/ftp-site. I understand there are some problems in generating the files,
so some of the files (only the German?) may be incomplete.
But Per will fix that soon.
Here's a listing of the new things in this database version:
- FRANCE:
- A first version of a French issue-index, with a few issues
by Ole Reichstein Nielsen and David Gerstein.
- A lot of (incomplete) issue data from Francois Willot.
Conversion: Harry Fluks.
(A better version is in the making...)
- A major update to the French story index, by Francois Willot.
Conversion: Harry Fluks.
- ITALY:
- A first version of an Italian issue-index, with
Paperino & C., by Marco Barlotti.
- An incomplete Topolino index, by Benassi Miroslav.
Conversion: Ole Reichstein Nielsen.
(A better version is in the making...)
- USA:
- Addition of comics from the Gold Key and Whitman period.
By Jonathan Markoff, David Gerstein, and others.
- Double-checking of the Dell WDC data with an old WDC index by Don Rosa.
Checking: Harry Fluks.
- Addition of the recent Gladstone comics. Mostly by Harry Fluks
and David Gerstein.
- A lot of (more than 300) Gold Key/Whitman stories got a new code, using
data from Martin Olsen's Det Store Index. (See also the remark below
about "oldcode".)
- HOLLAND:
- Update to the H-coded index from Pieter van Cleef.
- Addition of the recent Dutch comics and missing issues of
Willie Wortels Puzzelparade, Oom Dagobert, and others. By Harry Fluks,
with thanks to the Dutch Disney editors and Arthur de Wolf.
- DENMARK:
A lot of additions and error corrections.
By Ole Reichstein Nielsen (partly from Martin Olsen's Det Store Index).
- GERMANY:
- A lot of additions of Micky Maus, Abenteuer Team and Lustige
Taschenbuecher. By Gilbert Roser.
- Some Don Rosa specials added. By Harry Fluks.
- Indexes of DD Sonderheft (Tollsten Geschichten). By Ole Reichstein
Nielsen.
- SWEDEN:
Some error corrections. By Lars Olsson, Anders Engwall, Harry Fluks,
and Per Starback.
- NORWAY:
Inclusion of data from Geir Netland's Norwegian Rosa index
(DR Indeks Norsk/Amerikansk, 3.Utgave-1996). Conversion: Harry Fluks.
- UNITED KINGDOM:
Indexes of some old comics from the 50s. By David Gerstein.
- The indexes of Frank Jonker, Dave Rawson, David Gerstein, and Janet
Gilbert have been updated with the help of the creators theirselves.
- The Don Rosa index was updated (as usual!)
- The Paul Murry index has been completed using data from Martin Olsen.
Conversion: Harry Fluks.
- Various smaller updates and improvements by various members of the
mailing list, in particular Jonathan Markoff.
- Introducktion of two new fields:
- "xref" / "xrefd" for cross-references from/to stories. For example,
the story H 92001 is a re-make of an old JW story, and therefore has the
field [xref:W JW 14-?1]. And the story W JW 14-?1 has the field
[xrefd:H 92001].
- "oldcode" for old story codes that have been replaced by new ones.
For example, DD 86 is now fully indexed by Arthur de Wolf. The first
story has a new code:
W DD 86-01 DD O:Rah! Rah! Rah! [oldcode:W DD 86-?1]
- The database program can now produce files that can be read by MS-Access.
Thanks to everyone who contributed (including the people I forgot to mention)!
--Harry.
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #26
*****************************************
web/ftp-site. I understand there are some problems in generating the files,
so some of the files (only the German?) may be incomplete.
But Per will fix that soon.
Here's a listing of the new things in this database version:
- FRANCE:
- A first version of a French issue-index, with a few issues
by Ole Reichstein Nielsen and David Gerstein.
- A lot of (incomplete) issue data from Francois Willot.
Conversion: Harry Fluks.
(A better version is in the making...)
- A major update to the French story index, by Francois Willot.
Conversion: Harry Fluks.
- ITALY:
- A first version of an Italian issue-index, with
Paperino & C., by Marco Barlotti.
- An incomplete Topolino index, by Benassi Miroslav.
Conversion: Ole Reichstein Nielsen.
(A better version is in the making...)
- USA:
- Addition of comics from the Gold Key and Whitman period.
By Jonathan Markoff, David Gerstein, and others.
- Double-checking of the Dell WDC data with an old WDC index by Don Rosa.
Checking: Harry Fluks.
- Addition of the recent Gladstone comics. Mostly by Harry Fluks
and David Gerstein.
- A lot of (more than 300) Gold Key/Whitman stories got a new code, using
data from Martin Olsen's Det Store Index. (See also the remark below
about "oldcode".)
- HOLLAND:
- Update to the H-coded index from Pieter van Cleef.
- Addition of the recent Dutch comics and missing issues of
Willie Wortels Puzzelparade, Oom Dagobert, and others. By Harry Fluks,
with thanks to the Dutch Disney editors and Arthur de Wolf.
- DENMARK:
A lot of additions and error corrections.
By Ole Reichstein Nielsen (partly from Martin Olsen's Det Store Index).
- GERMANY:
- A lot of additions of Micky Maus, Abenteuer Team and Lustige
Taschenbuecher. By Gilbert Roser.
- Some Don Rosa specials added. By Harry Fluks.
- Indexes of DD Sonderheft (Tollsten Geschichten). By Ole Reichstein
Nielsen.
- SWEDEN:
Some error corrections. By Lars Olsson, Anders Engwall, Harry Fluks,
and Per Starback.
- NORWAY:
Inclusion of data from Geir Netland's Norwegian Rosa index
(DR Indeks Norsk/Amerikansk, 3.Utgave-1996). Conversion: Harry Fluks.
- UNITED KINGDOM:
Indexes of some old comics from the 50s. By David Gerstein.
- The indexes of Frank Jonker, Dave Rawson, David Gerstein, and Janet
Gilbert have been updated with the help of the creators theirselves.
- The Don Rosa index was updated (as usual!)
- The Paul Murry index has been completed using data from Martin Olsen.
Conversion: Harry Fluks.
- Various smaller updates and improvements by various members of the
mailing list, in particular Jonathan Markoff.
- Introducktion of two new fields:
- "xref" / "xrefd" for cross-references from/to stories. For example,
the story H 92001 is a re-make of an old JW story, and therefore has the
field [xref:W JW 14-?1]. And the story W JW 14-?1 has the field
[xrefd:H 92001].
- "oldcode" for old story codes that have been replaced by new ones.
For example, DD 86 is now fully indexed by Arthur de Wolf. The first
story has a new code:
W DD 86-01 DD O:Rah! Rah! Rah! [oldcode:W DD 86-?1]
- The database program can now produce files that can be read by MS-Access.
Thanks to everyone who contributed (including the people I forgot to mention)!
--Harry.
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #26
*****************************************
Harry Fluks
Disney comics Database
Message 292 -
1997-01-31 at 00:18:13
THE DISNEY COMICS DATABASE
The Disney comics Database (DcD) is a large set of files containing
information about Disney comic stories. We aim to include every story
made anywhere, plus all publications of that story in the most
important countries.
A lot of people from the Disney comics Mailing List have helped in
gathering all the information. Besides that, the most important published
indexes about Disney comics are included in the database.
There are several ways you can get information out of this database.
1. Get listing files from the ftp site. There you find formatted files
with information about a specific country's publications (for instance
the USA, Sweden, France), and stories produced by a specific country
(for instance Denmark, Holland, France).
These files are usually very big, but they contain complete information.
2. Look at the Disney comics website, in the "creators" section. There
you can find indexes for specific creators. For instance an index
of the work of Don Rosa. You can choose to have all known publications
(in all countries) of his stories as well.
3. You can go to one of the Disney comics webpages, and lookup a story
by its code. You then get a listing of all information about that
story, including its writer, artist, number of pages, etc. as well
as all known publications of that story.
4. Download the "internal" files from the Disney comics ftp site
(subdir "internal", files ending with ".ins", ".ine" and ".dbl").
Then download the Database browser from Bent Pedersen.
You need a PC with Windows and some dozens of megabytes disk space
to do this.
5. Download the "MS-Access" files from the Disney comics ftp site
(subdir "access", all files ending with ".acc") and import them
into MS-Access. The Access files contain a lot of information
from the Database, but not everything.
6. Ask Harry Fluks for specific listings. For instance, when you want
an index of all stories by Carl Barks where Gladstone Gander appeared.
Or all stories featuring both Fethry Duck and Hard Haid Moe.
Or anything you can think of (as long as the listing is not too big
to send in regular mail).
Addresses:
----------
The Disney comics website (also for getting the ftp files):
http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/disney-comics/ (follow the links from there)
Bent Pedersen's browser:
http://home4.inet.tele.dk/bp/bent.html (follow the links from there)
Harry Fluks' e-mail:
mailto:(Email removed)
The Disney comics Database (DcD) is a large set of files containing
information about Disney comic stories. We aim to include every story
made anywhere, plus all publications of that story in the most
important countries.
A lot of people from the Disney comics Mailing List have helped in
gathering all the information. Besides that, the most important published
indexes about Disney comics are included in the database.
There are several ways you can get information out of this database.
1. Get listing files from the ftp site. There you find formatted files
with information about a specific country's publications (for instance
the USA, Sweden, France), and stories produced by a specific country
(for instance Denmark, Holland, France).
These files are usually very big, but they contain complete information.
2. Look at the Disney comics website, in the "creators" section. There
you can find indexes for specific creators. For instance an index
of the work of Don Rosa. You can choose to have all known publications
(in all countries) of his stories as well.
3. You can go to one of the Disney comics webpages, and lookup a story
by its code. You then get a listing of all information about that
story, including its writer, artist, number of pages, etc. as well
as all known publications of that story.
4. Download the "internal" files from the Disney comics ftp site
(subdir "internal", files ending with ".ins", ".ine" and ".dbl").
Then download the Database browser from Bent Pedersen.
You need a PC with Windows and some dozens of megabytes disk space
to do this.
5. Download the "MS-Access" files from the Disney comics ftp site
(subdir "access", all files ending with ".acc") and import them
into MS-Access. The Access files contain a lot of information
from the Database, but not everything.
6. Ask Harry Fluks for specific listings. For instance, when you want
an index of all stories by Carl Barks where Gladstone Gander appeared.
Or all stories featuring both Fethry Duck and Hard Haid Moe.
Or anything you can think of (as long as the listing is not too big
to send in regular mail).
Addresses:
----------
The Disney comics website (also for getting the ftp files):
http://www.update.uu.se/~starback/disney-comics/ (follow the links from there)
Bent Pedersen's browser:
http://home4.inet.tele.dk/bp/bent.html (follow the links from there)
Harry Fluks' e-mail:
mailto:(Email removed)
Shaun M. Knowler
Bit o' this, bit o' that...
Message 293 -
1997-01-31 at 04:24:41
DAN K:
The villain in "His Majesty, McDuck" was Akers MacCovet, who also had the
Beagle Boys in his employ.
GARY LEACH:
What's wrong with the cover for "HMM"? I think it's fine. And please use
the same purple-ish King's coat coloring in the reprint that was used on
$crooge on the inside, I thought it added a lovely touch! Also, I'd
like to add my vote for a one-volume Lo$ for you hard workin' fellas at
Gladstone to consider, even if it is wishful thinking. I doubt I'm the
only one, too.
I too was impressed to see Gladstone published "A Cold Bargain"
uncensored, along with "Land of the Pygmy Indians". If Disney allows you
to publish them in album format, why not just throw in "War of the
Wendigo" in some Rosa album too?
-Shaun
The villain in "His Majesty, McDuck" was Akers MacCovet, who also had the
Beagle Boys in his employ.
GARY LEACH:
What's wrong with the cover for "HMM"? I think it's fine. And please use
the same purple-ish King's coat coloring in the reprint that was used on
$crooge on the inside, I thought it added a lovely touch! Also, I'd
like to add my vote for a one-volume Lo$ for you hard workin' fellas at
Gladstone to consider, even if it is wishful thinking. I doubt I'm the
only one, too.
I too was impressed to see Gladstone published "A Cold Bargain"
uncensored, along with "Land of the Pygmy Indians". If Disney allows you
to publish them in album format, why not just throw in "War of the
Wendigo" in some Rosa album too?
-Shaun
SRoweCanoe
Disney comics Digest V97 #26
Message 294 -
1997-01-31 at 07:42:57
In a message dated 97-01-30 19:24:51 EST, David Gerstein wrote:
<< How on earth did Gladstone manage to publish an uncensored version
of "A Cold Bargain" in CBLUSA album #16? Great to see it... I never
thought I'd live to see a banned story get un-banned. What's the story
here? >>
What are the differences? Do I need to search for a copy of CBLUSA16?
Marvel finally released Disney Comic Hits #16 dated january 1997! This
contains a 22pp 101 Dalmations live action movie adaption. Written by
S.Scarborough and K.Kuch, pencils by Jose Delbo, inks by loretta Krol. Cover
by Rich Hoover. no code that I see. The next issue should contain more
dalmations. There is a circulation statement. Average total paid
circulation is 60,733; and of that 28,277 were subscriptions.
Oddly enough, #13 sold about 6,500 copies in the direct market (according to
Matt High's US direct market sales figures). We see here that Disney
has to relay on the non-direct market.
Steven Rowe
<< How on earth did Gladstone manage to publish an uncensored version
of "A Cold Bargain" in CBLUSA album #16? Great to see it... I never
thought I'd live to see a banned story get un-banned. What's the story
here? >>
What are the differences? Do I need to search for a copy of CBLUSA16?
Marvel finally released Disney Comic Hits #16 dated january 1997! This
contains a 22pp 101 Dalmations live action movie adaption. Written by
S.Scarborough and K.Kuch, pencils by Jose Delbo, inks by loretta Krol. Cover
by Rich Hoover. no code that I see. The next issue should contain more
dalmations. There is a circulation statement. Average total paid
circulation is 60,733; and of that 28,277 were subscriptions.
Oddly enough, #13 sold about 6,500 copies in the direct market (according to
Matt High's US direct market sales figures). We see here that Disney
has to relay on the non-direct market.
Steven Rowe
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V97 #26
Message 295 -
1997-01-31 at 15:46:19
GARY:
Well, now it's hard to say what the world would have been like if one thing
or another hadn't happened. But it's not fair to my devotion to Gladstone
Comics to say that I would eventually have quit and gone to work for Egmont
or Oberon even if Di$ney hadn't moved in on you and wrecked American Disney
comics, or if Byron had stayed on as editor. Back in 1988 between Gladstone
jobs I was doing work for Oberon, but Gladstone came first, even though
Oberon paid more. Also, when they asked me to WRITE the stories I did for
them, I said that I preferred to use their scripts since any story I wrote
I'd hope would be good (?), and if it were good I'd want to save it for
Gladstone rather than sell it to Oberon. And I never even attempted to
contact Egmont while I was working for Gladstone, as long as Oberon filled
that spare time between Gladstone jobs.
Now, sure, in the past 10 years it may have dawned on me that working for
Egmont would have benefited BOTH Gladstone and Rosa since then I'd get
higher pay and you'd get my stories for free and I'd be doing you a FAVOR by
quiting. But to assume that I would have quit Gladstone for any reason than
that I was forced by circumstances seems to sell my devotion to Gladstone
much too short. (pout).
DANIEL C.:
Yeah, as I thought I'd mentioned here often, I intend to do at least one
"Lo$" story per year from now on, if they let me. I have a whole list of
ideas for plots for more adventures in $crooge's early years.
Well, now it's hard to say what the world would have been like if one thing
or another hadn't happened. But it's not fair to my devotion to Gladstone
Comics to say that I would eventually have quit and gone to work for Egmont
or Oberon even if Di$ney hadn't moved in on you and wrecked American Disney
comics, or if Byron had stayed on as editor. Back in 1988 between Gladstone
jobs I was doing work for Oberon, but Gladstone came first, even though
Oberon paid more. Also, when they asked me to WRITE the stories I did for
them, I said that I preferred to use their scripts since any story I wrote
I'd hope would be good (?), and if it were good I'd want to save it for
Gladstone rather than sell it to Oberon. And I never even attempted to
contact Egmont while I was working for Gladstone, as long as Oberon filled
that spare time between Gladstone jobs.
Now, sure, in the past 10 years it may have dawned on me that working for
Egmont would have benefited BOTH Gladstone and Rosa since then I'd get
higher pay and you'd get my stories for free and I'd be doing you a FAVOR by
quiting. But to assume that I would have quit Gladstone for any reason than
that I was forced by circumstances seems to sell my devotion to Gladstone
much too short. (pout).
DANIEL C.:
Yeah, as I thought I'd mentioned here often, I intend to do at least one
"Lo$" story per year from now on, if they let me. I have a whole list of
ideas for plots for more adventures in $crooge's early years.
Marco Barlotti
My poor English
Message 296 -
1997-01-31 at 17:54:41
Wilmer wrote:
>
>An even bigger question: would a company [...] now allow
>a character to be called "Jubal Cock"?
>
Wilmer, would you explain that for us non-English speaking people?
Gary wrote:
>
>As you no doubt know, Brigitta's very first appearance in a Gladstone comic
>[...] was Uncle Scrooge #242 [...]. The
>story was "The Last Balaboo," and it kinda threw Brigitta in at the deep
>end, as far as introducing her to US readers.
>
Again, my dictionary can't help me with the meaning of <threw Brigitta in at
the deep end> so I just can't say whether I agree with Gary or not.
However I'd like to point out (again...) that "Last Balaboo" was not only
Brigitta's first appearance in the U. S. A., it was her first appearance
EVER. It was Scarpa's style (and a highly good choice IMHO) to introduce
Brigitta as a character <who always had been there>. Again, I wonder whether
I managed to correctly render what I meant to say...
Sorry!
Marco
>
>An even bigger question: would a company [...] now allow
>a character to be called "Jubal Cock"?
>
Wilmer, would you explain that for us non-English speaking people?
Gary wrote:
>
>As you no doubt know, Brigitta's very first appearance in a Gladstone comic
>[...] was Uncle Scrooge #242 [...]. The
>story was "The Last Balaboo," and it kinda threw Brigitta in at the deep
>end, as far as introducing her to US readers.
>
Again, my dictionary can't help me with the meaning of <threw Brigitta in at
the deep end> so I just can't say whether I agree with Gary or not.
However I'd like to point out (again...) that "Last Balaboo" was not only
Brigitta's first appearance in the U. S. A., it was her first appearance
EVER. It was Scarpa's style (and a highly good choice IMHO) to introduce
Brigitta as a character <who always had been there>. Again, I wonder whether
I managed to correctly render what I meant to say...
Sorry!
Marco
Wilmer Rivers
**my** (not Marco's!) bad English
Message 297 -
1997-01-31 at 19:08:13
Marco Barlotti asks very politely about a previous posting of mine:
> Wilmer wrote:
> >
> >An even bigger question: would a company [...] now allow
> >a character to be called "Jubal Cock"?
> >
>
> Wilmer, would you explain that for us non-English speaking people?
So I'll try to answer politely too, but I'm walking on egg-shells here.
Please forgive me, Per and the Net-police, if this is too graphic.
The younger readers of this List, and those easily offended, may want
to skip to the next message in the Digest. :)
The reason "Jubal Cock" would cause a problem is that it sounds like a
vulgar expression. There isn't a word "jubal", but it sounds like
"jubilant", which means "happy and excited". The word "cock", in
addition to its meaning as "rooster", is a slang expression (or dirty
word) meaning "the male sex organ". Put them together, and it makes an
image with which the Walt Disney Corporation probably would not want to
be associated!
Whew, I hope I got through that explanation OK without violating the
Comics Code!
Wilmer Rivers
> Wilmer wrote:
> >
> >An even bigger question: would a company [...] now allow
> >a character to be called "Jubal Cock"?
> >
>
> Wilmer, would you explain that for us non-English speaking people?
So I'll try to answer politely too, but I'm walking on egg-shells here.
Please forgive me, Per and the Net-police, if this is too graphic.
The younger readers of this List, and those easily offended, may want
to skip to the next message in the Digest. :)
The reason "Jubal Cock" would cause a problem is that it sounds like a
vulgar expression. There isn't a word "jubal", but it sounds like
"jubilant", which means "happy and excited". The word "cock", in
addition to its meaning as "rooster", is a slang expression (or dirty
word) meaning "the male sex organ". Put them together, and it makes an
image with which the Walt Disney Corporation probably would not want to
be associated!
Whew, I hope I got through that explanation OK without violating the
Comics Code!
Wilmer Rivers
David Gerstein
Disney comics Digest V97 #26
Message 298 -
1997-01-31 at 21:37:31
WILMER:
>An even bigger question: would a company that wouldn't allow the use
>of characters called "harpies", since at some remote time in the past
>in some distant place that was a slang term for prostitutes, now allow
>a character to be called "Jubal Cock"?
Perhaps not, but there IS a solution. William Van Horn used the
spitting image of Jubal as the judge in his "Terror of Duckburg" (WDC&S
596, I think), and gave him a different name, J. Frostfeathers Pomp. This
is the _only_ appearance he's made in the United States, with the name
Jubal Cock only appearing in some articles about Scarpa. If Disney
objected to Scarpa's original English name for the character, he could
easily become Jubal (Frostfeathers) Pomp. Fits perfectly, IMHO.
MARCO:
As for the rifle being pointed at the ducks (in the same Brigitta
story), it's pointed at them from about eight feet away; it's never held
right in someone's face. There's also the point that the guy who does it,
Jubal, is just *posing* as a crook, and doesn't intend to kill anyone --
just scare Scrooge into becoming desperate. I think Disney generally
permits this kind of stuff. (True, "Colossus of the Nile" was censored,
but that was specifically because Donald *fires* the gun, and we're then
led to think he shot it at the Beagles themselves.)
Any thoughts?
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
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End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #27
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>An even bigger question: would a company that wouldn't allow the use
>of characters called "harpies", since at some remote time in the past
>in some distant place that was a slang term for prostitutes, now allow
>a character to be called "Jubal Cock"?
Perhaps not, but there IS a solution. William Van Horn used the
spitting image of Jubal as the judge in his "Terror of Duckburg" (WDC&S
596, I think), and gave him a different name, J. Frostfeathers Pomp. This
is the _only_ appearance he's made in the United States, with the name
Jubal Cock only appearing in some articles about Scarpa. If Disney
objected to Scarpa's original English name for the character, he could
easily become Jubal (Frostfeathers) Pomp. Fits perfectly, IMHO.
MARCO:
As for the rifle being pointed at the ducks (in the same Brigitta
story), it's pointed at them from about eight feet away; it's never held
right in someone's face. There's also the point that the guy who does it,
Jubal, is just *posing* as a crook, and doesn't intend to kill anyone --
just scare Scrooge into becoming desperate. I think Disney generally
permits this kind of stuff. (True, "Colossus of the Nile" was censored,
but that was specifically because Donald *fires* the gun, and we're then
led to think he shot it at the Beagles themselves.)
Any thoughts?
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
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End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #27
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Jan Lund Thomsen
I'm back, old digests...
Message 299 -
1997-01-31 at 21:54:22
I'm back at the keyboard. I've been doing all sorts of stuff on the computer
lately (exept catching up on this ML) A couple of weeks ago I suffered a
serious case of repetitive stress injury which made it extremely painfull to do
*any* computing. After spending some time away from the PC (visiting friends
and family, reading comics, etc.) I'm happy to say that I feel a lot better.
Anyway, enough real-life ranting... On with the show!
[ Digest V96 #275 ]
DAVID, SHAUN, CHRISTER:
Thanks for setting the record straight on the "Celestial Arts" collection.
Even though the book is "only" 35 bucks I'll give it a miss (and purchase two
Cerebus collections instead :))
Will Go Slowly... be reprinted in the Gladstone albums?
[ Digest V96 #278 ]
FRANK:
> So, basically:
> "penguins don't talk"
> "but look, Scarpa's done it!"
> "yes, but he's Scarpa: don't try this at home, kids!"
Frank, thank you for the kind words on my "Penguin" post. I agree that
Scarpa's genius is the main reason why the story works so well.
-- Jan (Chairman, Penguins Liberation Front)
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C64/RPG/INWO/Warner Bros/Disney/Anthro/Comics-addict and all-around nice guy.
--- Email: (Email removed) ---- WWW: http://www.pip.dknet.dk/%7Epip781/ ---
lately (exept catching up on this ML) A couple of weeks ago I suffered a
serious case of repetitive stress injury which made it extremely painfull to do
*any* computing. After spending some time away from the PC (visiting friends
and family, reading comics, etc.) I'm happy to say that I feel a lot better.
Anyway, enough real-life ranting... On with the show!
[ Digest V96 #275 ]
DAVID, SHAUN, CHRISTER:
Thanks for setting the record straight on the "Celestial Arts" collection.
Even though the book is "only" 35 bucks I'll give it a miss (and purchase two
Cerebus collections instead :))
Will Go Slowly... be reprinted in the Gladstone albums?
[ Digest V96 #278 ]
FRANK:
> So, basically:
> "penguins don't talk"
> "but look, Scarpa's done it!"
> "yes, but he's Scarpa: don't try this at home, kids!"
Frank, thank you for the kind words on my "Penguin" post. I agree that
Scarpa's genius is the main reason why the story works so well.
-- Jan (Chairman, Penguins Liberation Front)
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Jan Lund Thomsen (aka Qed/Triangle 3532) Lystrup, Denmark
C64/RPG/INWO/Warner Bros/Disney/Anthro/Comics-addict and all-around nice guy.
--- Email: (Email removed) ---- WWW: http://www.pip.dknet.dk/%7Epip781/ ---
Jan Lund Thomsen
Disney comics Digest V97 #3
Message 300 -
1997-01-31 at 21:54:28
[ Digest V97 #3 ]
HARRY:
>BENT PEDERSEN:
>When my hard disk crashed, I lost the mail where your website address is=
in.
http://home4.inet.tele.dk/bp/bent.html
Bent's DisneyComicsBrowser is highly recommended for anyone running =
Win95/NT.
-- Jan
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Denmark
C64/RPG/INWO/Warner Bros/Disney/Anthro/Comics-addict and all-around nice =
guy.
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HARRY:
>BENT PEDERSEN:
>When my hard disk crashed, I lost the mail where your website address is=
in.
http://home4.inet.tele.dk/bp/bent.html
Bent's DisneyComicsBrowser is highly recommended for anyone running =
Win95/NT.
-- Jan
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Jan Lund Thomsen (aka Qed/Triangle 3532) Lystrup, =
Denmark
C64/RPG/INWO/Warner Bros/Disney/Anthro/Comics-addict and all-around nice =
guy.
--- Email: (Email removed) ---- WWW: http://www.pip.dknet.dk/%7Epip781/=
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