DAVID GERSTEIN:
What you said about the modifier "Phantom" and the label "Mickey's Nephews"
is correct (to the best of my knowledge), but it completely misses the
subtle points that I was making... that when these characters were first
introduced, the first day of their daily strip, the way we think of them
NOW is not how Mr. Gottfredson introduced them to us. The point about the
"phantom" modifier was used to parallel Gyro's Helper's own modifer, and my
inquirey about "Mickey's Nephews" had to do with their first panel, where
it would have been very easy for Mr. Gottfredson to simply reveal the boys'
familial relationship at that point, rather than waiting until several days
later to reveal this identity. Anyone reading that very first strip would
not immediately presume that the two boys Mrs. Fieldmouse drops off at
Mickey's doorstep are indeed his nephews... Most folks would think, based
on the dialogue that Mickey was possibly a neighbor to Mrs. Fieldmouse, or
at least a reliable daycare provider (by reputation). Even in the reprint
in "Mickey Mouse in Color" the 9/18/32 strip does not reveal the lads' true
relationship to Mickey. If I didn't have Gladstone Comic Album #3 I wouldn't
have seen the rest of the tale where they do indeed eventually start calling
him "Unca Mickey." But I guess most folks don't really concern themselves
eith this sort of sublty... I just find it interesting, and probably wouldn't
have mentioned it had not the discussion about "Little Helper" arose.
> Great character! And his name is originally Ophal Dizzy. I used
> him in a story a while back, just because I liked him so much (although
> he didn't get a lot to do).
Well, to take this even one step further, his apparent full apellation is
"Ophal Dizzy, Esq." (as depicted on his mailbox) which would seem to imply
that he was either once an attorney, or a candidate for knighthood. :-)
BROR HELLMAN:
> How come KFS doesn't run the MM strip on their homepage?
> Is it because it's actually stopped and that mercury is running reprints
> only?
Good question. I have been reading as many back issues of the comic strip
as possible and was very saddened to learn that Goofy is STILL chasing
Clarabelle Cow. I thought this issue was resolved years ago, and Clarabelle
returned *permanently* to Horace. The artwork looks familiar, but I have
no idea who is writing or illustrating this strip.
The topics presented in the strip seem fairly contemporary so it can't be too
old if it is being reprinted from another source.
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #215
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Author
Topic: 199809
(311 messages)
Xavier Metcalf
Modifiers and MM Strips
Message 16 -
1998-09-01 at 22:48:28
Don Rosa
Digest #215
Message 17 -
1998-09-02 at 00:24:07
From: (Email removed) (Mattias Hallin)
>>>And by "High Society" I mean the Crosby/Kelly/Sinatra/Armstrong movie
from
the 50s (directed by Charles Walters, I think -- not Capra, so it could
hardly be the one you mention?).
Oh. It was and it wasn't the one I mentioned. "High Society" was, indeed,
the remake of "Philadelphia Story" with Bing Crosby, but I was mixing it up
with Frank Capra's "Riding High" of a very few years earlier which also
starred Bing and also was a remake of an older movie. I'm not much of a fan
of anything Capra did after the 40s, though I'm still horrified I would make
such a goof about any Capra movie.
>>>>And the references? Well, the captain's hat, the concertina, and the
pipe
that Donald is packing to go sailing, as well as the boat name "True Love"
are what I'm talking about!
Typical accoutrements of a sailor are the cap, the corncob pipe, and a
concertina -- that's probably the only reason I used them, and surely the
only reason they were used as props in the movie. In other words, it was all
only a coincidence.
Now, if the comic and the movie both also used "True Love" as the name of a
boat -- that I can't explain. Perhaps it *was* the original writer's
intention to make a movie reference, but it wasn't mine in that instance.
>>>So, what I was curious about was whether the script instructed you to use
those props, or if you added them yourself.
The hat and pipe and concertina *might* have been included in the
storyboard-script that was sent to me from Oberon, but after 10 years, I
dunno........
>>>And by "High Society" I mean the Crosby/Kelly/Sinatra/Armstrong movie
from
the 50s (directed by Charles Walters, I think -- not Capra, so it could
hardly be the one you mention?).
Oh. It was and it wasn't the one I mentioned. "High Society" was, indeed,
the remake of "Philadelphia Story" with Bing Crosby, but I was mixing it up
with Frank Capra's "Riding High" of a very few years earlier which also
starred Bing and also was a remake of an older movie. I'm not much of a fan
of anything Capra did after the 40s, though I'm still horrified I would make
such a goof about any Capra movie.
>>>>And the references? Well, the captain's hat, the concertina, and the
pipe
that Donald is packing to go sailing, as well as the boat name "True Love"
are what I'm talking about!
Typical accoutrements of a sailor are the cap, the corncob pipe, and a
concertina -- that's probably the only reason I used them, and surely the
only reason they were used as props in the movie. In other words, it was all
only a coincidence.
Now, if the comic and the movie both also used "True Love" as the name of a
boat -- that I can't explain. Perhaps it *was* the original writer's
intention to make a movie reference, but it wasn't mine in that instance.
>>>So, what I was curious about was whether the script instructed you to use
those props, or if you added them yourself.
The hat and pipe and concertina *might* have been included in the
storyboard-script that was sent to me from Oberon, but after 10 years, I
dunno........
RMorris306
Chickens and Nephews
Message 18 -
1998-09-02 at 00:44:05
Hi! It's been awhile since I've posted, but as long as I'm home sick,
why not?
Gary wrote:
<<I'll defend the ramparts against all who would assail Carl Barks' right, as
creator, to say that Gyro is a chicken. And I'll identify Gyro as such to
anyone who asks, you betcha. But I'll confess that in my own mind I've
always seen Gyro as a turkey.>>
Well, I'm personally inclined to go along with the consensus that Gyro
is a rooster, just as Pete is a cat (not, as some have theorized, a very ugly
dog). The fact that Pete is the arch-enemy of Mickey MOUSE seems to hint at
that, for all the Disney characters (Pluto and a few others aside) are less
animals than they are people with animal faces.
Ironically enough, though, a recent book about unreleased Disney
cartoons cited the studio's difficulty in putting together a feature based on
the Chanticleer ballads (sometimes tied in with Reynard the Fox) because
animators found a rooster a difficult character to work with. This *despite*
Gyro's long success in the comics (and even, through DUCKTALES, in animation),
*despite* Panchito in "The Three Caballeros," and *despite* similarly
successful rooster heroes in other studios like Warner Bros.'s Foghorn Leghorn
and Jay Ward's Super Chicken. A pity, in a way, since some other studio
(Bluth?) beat Disney to the material in the notorious flop (so much so I never
saw it or had a chance to) "Rock-a-Doodle." (On the other hand, after
"Mickey's Christmas Carol" and "The Prince and the Pauper," maybe we might
have seen a Chanticleer movie with Gyro in the title role? Backed up by Honest
John Foulfellow as Reynard?
Xavier Metcalf wrote:
<<What you said about the modifier "Phantom" and the label "Mickey's Nephews"
is correct (to the best of my knowledge), but it completely misses the
subtle points that I was making... that when these characters were first
introduced, the first day of their daily strip, the way we think of them
NOW is not how Mr. Gottfredson introduced them to us. The point about the
"phantom" modifier was used to parallel Gyro's Helper's own modifer, and my
inquirey about "Mickey's Nephews" had to do with their first panel, where
it would have been very easy for Mr. Gottfredson to simply reveal the boys'
familial relationship at that point, rather than waiting until several days
later to reveal this identity. Anyone reading that very first strip would
not immediately presume that the two boys Mrs. Fieldmouse drops off at
Mickey's doorstep are indeed his nephews... Most folks would think, based
on the dialogue that Mickey was possibly a neighbor to Mrs. Fieldmouse, or
at least a reliable daycare provider (by reputation). Even in the reprint
in "Mickey Mouse in Color" the 9/18/32 strip does not reveal the lads' true
relationship to Mickey. If I didn't have Gladstone Comic Album #3 I wouldn't
have seen the rest of the tale where they do indeed eventually start calling
him "Unca Mickey." But I guess most folks don't really concern themselves
eith this sort of sublty... I just find it interesting, and probably wouldn't
have mentioned it had not the discussion about "Little Helper" arose.>>
In the 1930's it was common for children to address adults as "Uncle"
or "Aunt," even if they weren't their uncles or aunts by blood or marriage.
(Now, of course, it's the other way in terms of children addressing adults. My
research partner Martin O'Hearn has two nephews who address him by his first
name; no title at all. Then again, to baby boomers like Martin and me, it's
hard to separate the title "Uncle Martin" from an image of Ray Walston as a
Martian...)
Later stories have indicated the boys are indeed Mickey's nephews,
though that may not have been Gottfredson's original intention. Since Mickey
isn't married (and if he were, his nephews by marriage would be more likely to
be spoken of as Minnie's...can ANYONE conceive of him marrying anyone
else?...nephews), and the boys' last name is "Fieldmouse," it would follow
that Mrs. Fieldmouse is Mickey's sister...but in that case you'd think HE'D
address her by her first name. It could be worked in, but not without a bit of
straining!
Rich Morrissey
why not?
Gary wrote:
<<I'll defend the ramparts against all who would assail Carl Barks' right, as
creator, to say that Gyro is a chicken. And I'll identify Gyro as such to
anyone who asks, you betcha. But I'll confess that in my own mind I've
always seen Gyro as a turkey.>>
Well, I'm personally inclined to go along with the consensus that Gyro
is a rooster, just as Pete is a cat (not, as some have theorized, a very ugly
dog). The fact that Pete is the arch-enemy of Mickey MOUSE seems to hint at
that, for all the Disney characters (Pluto and a few others aside) are less
animals than they are people with animal faces.
Ironically enough, though, a recent book about unreleased Disney
cartoons cited the studio's difficulty in putting together a feature based on
the Chanticleer ballads (sometimes tied in with Reynard the Fox) because
animators found a rooster a difficult character to work with. This *despite*
Gyro's long success in the comics (and even, through DUCKTALES, in animation),
*despite* Panchito in "The Three Caballeros," and *despite* similarly
successful rooster heroes in other studios like Warner Bros.'s Foghorn Leghorn
and Jay Ward's Super Chicken. A pity, in a way, since some other studio
(Bluth?) beat Disney to the material in the notorious flop (so much so I never
saw it or had a chance to) "Rock-a-Doodle." (On the other hand, after
"Mickey's Christmas Carol" and "The Prince and the Pauper," maybe we might
have seen a Chanticleer movie with Gyro in the title role? Backed up by Honest
John Foulfellow as Reynard?
Xavier Metcalf wrote:
<<What you said about the modifier "Phantom" and the label "Mickey's Nephews"
is correct (to the best of my knowledge), but it completely misses the
subtle points that I was making... that when these characters were first
introduced, the first day of their daily strip, the way we think of them
NOW is not how Mr. Gottfredson introduced them to us. The point about the
"phantom" modifier was used to parallel Gyro's Helper's own modifer, and my
inquirey about "Mickey's Nephews" had to do with their first panel, where
it would have been very easy for Mr. Gottfredson to simply reveal the boys'
familial relationship at that point, rather than waiting until several days
later to reveal this identity. Anyone reading that very first strip would
not immediately presume that the two boys Mrs. Fieldmouse drops off at
Mickey's doorstep are indeed his nephews... Most folks would think, based
on the dialogue that Mickey was possibly a neighbor to Mrs. Fieldmouse, or
at least a reliable daycare provider (by reputation). Even in the reprint
in "Mickey Mouse in Color" the 9/18/32 strip does not reveal the lads' true
relationship to Mickey. If I didn't have Gladstone Comic Album #3 I wouldn't
have seen the rest of the tale where they do indeed eventually start calling
him "Unca Mickey." But I guess most folks don't really concern themselves
eith this sort of sublty... I just find it interesting, and probably wouldn't
have mentioned it had not the discussion about "Little Helper" arose.>>
In the 1930's it was common for children to address adults as "Uncle"
or "Aunt," even if they weren't their uncles or aunts by blood or marriage.
(Now, of course, it's the other way in terms of children addressing adults. My
research partner Martin O'Hearn has two nephews who address him by his first
name; no title at all. Then again, to baby boomers like Martin and me, it's
hard to separate the title "Uncle Martin" from an image of Ray Walston as a
Martian...)
Later stories have indicated the boys are indeed Mickey's nephews,
though that may not have been Gottfredson's original intention. Since Mickey
isn't married (and if he were, his nephews by marriage would be more likely to
be spoken of as Minnie's...can ANYONE conceive of him marrying anyone
else?...nephews), and the boys' last name is "Fieldmouse," it would follow
that Mrs. Fieldmouse is Mickey's sister...but in that case you'd think HE'D
address her by her first name. It could be worked in, but not without a bit of
straining!
Rich Morrissey
Eta Beta
Spots Off!
Message 19 -
1998-09-02 at 00:45:13
ARTHUR
>> ...exclamation marks... !
>> I guess I have been reading to many comics! Why do almost
>> all sentences in comic stories end with them?! Is there a reason?
KRITON
>Gladstone once explained this in one of their "year that was" features:
>periods can be mistaken for dirt specs and be eliminated by the printer.
>That particular "year that was" reprinted something that had suffered
>this way, with the text losing some of its meaning.
DANIEL
>...spots which got stuck on the art were whitened out, but sometimes they
>also whitened out periods by mistake. For that reason, the more recognizable
>exclamation point was used. The WDC&S article showed an example of a chicken
>which in print only looked at the ground, while there was a small worm-hole
>(a period) in the original.
>
>I'm writing this from memory, so if someone has a more detailled
>explanation, please go ahead.
The explanation is exactly the same given by Kriton and Daniel, only the
writer of the article (Bruce Hamilton) presents it as apocriphal :-)
I can just add that the issue was WDC&S 603, and the scene we're all
referring to was the very first panel of the very first Mickey Mouse
strip,
written by Walt Disney himself and drawn by Ub Iwerks and Win Smith, and
that the eager "opaquer" eliminated a pebble from the ground, so the poor
chicken was left staring at nothing...
But I seem to recall reading a similar explanation about exclamation
marks in comics somewhere else as well... fact or fiction, then ?
Cheers
Eta Beta
>> ...exclamation marks... !
>> I guess I have been reading to many comics! Why do almost
>> all sentences in comic stories end with them?! Is there a reason?
KRITON
>Gladstone once explained this in one of their "year that was" features:
>periods can be mistaken for dirt specs and be eliminated by the printer.
>That particular "year that was" reprinted something that had suffered
>this way, with the text losing some of its meaning.
DANIEL
>...spots which got stuck on the art were whitened out, but sometimes they
>also whitened out periods by mistake. For that reason, the more recognizable
>exclamation point was used. The WDC&S article showed an example of a chicken
>which in print only looked at the ground, while there was a small worm-hole
>(a period) in the original.
>
>I'm writing this from memory, so if someone has a more detailled
>explanation, please go ahead.
The explanation is exactly the same given by Kriton and Daniel, only the
writer of the article (Bruce Hamilton) presents it as apocriphal :-)
I can just add that the issue was WDC&S 603, and the scene we're all
referring to was the very first panel of the very first Mickey Mouse
strip,
written by Walt Disney himself and drawn by Ub Iwerks and Win Smith, and
that the eager "opaquer" eliminated a pebble from the ground, so the poor
chicken was left staring at nothing...
But I seem to recall reading a similar explanation about exclamation
marks in comics somewhere else as well... fact or fiction, then ?
Cheers
Eta Beta
Gerry Tank
Interviews
Message 20 -
1998-09-02 at 00:55:20
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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To Daniel van Eijmeren and Don Markstein
I passed on the note as noted below to Carl over lunch today.
The note read:
DON MARKSTEIN:
Now that I think of it, there is more information on/from the Carl Barks =
Studio on the Guidebook pages. These are three of the interviews =
included=20
in the "interviews" chapter. At that point these were the only integral=20
English interviews I had, published in a pink booklet sent out by the=20
Carl Barks Studio.=20
The rumours on managers controlling/changing Barks' words makes me =
wonder=20
how much of these interviews are genuine and/or in context. The thought=20
that Barks himself may not even know about the final results nags me=20
heavily, something I started to realise after reading your letter and=20
while writing these letters as a reply.=20
I would be very grateful if you or someone else could advice me on this. =
Maybe these interviews could be forwarded to Carl Barks for his =
judgement=20
on them? I'd of course rather have no English interviews on the =
Guidebook=20
pages at all, than ones which are not real.
Unfortunately I have not seen the pink booklet and cannot tell you about =
the accuracy of this if it was edited, but I will vouchsafe to you that =
one of the things that cannot be manipulated in Carl is the authenticity =
of the his tape or videorecorded interviews. One of the things the =
subjects alluded to could not do was to alter Carl's intergrity.
If you have a copy of the pink booklet I would love to see it and even =
pass it on for review by Carl.
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To Daniel van Eijmeren and Don Markstein
I passed on the note as noted below to Carl over lunch today.
The note read:
DON MARKSTEIN:
Now that I think of it, there is more information on/from the Carl Barks =
Studio on the Guidebook pages. These are three of the interviews =
included=20
in the "interviews" chapter. At that point these were the only integral=20
English interviews I had, published in a pink booklet sent out by the=20
Carl Barks Studio.=20
The rumours on managers controlling/changing Barks' words makes me =
wonder=20
how much of these interviews are genuine and/or in context. The thought=20
that Barks himself may not even know about the final results nags me=20
heavily, something I started to realise after reading your letter and=20
while writing these letters as a reply.=20
I would be very grateful if you or someone else could advice me on this. =
Maybe these interviews could be forwarded to Carl Barks for his =
judgement=20
on them? I'd of course rather have no English interviews on the =
Guidebook=20
pages at all, than ones which are not real.
Unfortunately I have not seen the pink booklet and cannot tell you about =
the accuracy of this if it was edited, but I will vouchsafe to you that =
one of the things that cannot be manipulated in Carl is the authenticity =
of the his tape or videorecorded interviews. One of the things the =
subjects alluded to could not do was to alter Carl's intergrity.
If you have a copy of the pink booklet I would love to see it and even =
pass it on for review by Carl.
Katie Sullivan
Disney comics Digest V98 #215
Message 21 -
1998-09-02 at 03:04:46
Hello, Duck fans! (Oh, and all you Mouse fans, too! ;-)
I've been more or less in lurk mode recently, and will probably continue that way
for awhile. My 1st day of college is tomorrow, and I have a feeling life will get
even more hectic!
Does anyone know if U$ 314 is out in the U.S. yet? I believe that's the next issue
number... I'm just dying to read "The Black Night."
BTW, Don R, I shared some of your Star Trek "filler" drawings on the D.U.C.K.Hunt
page to my best friend. She was LOL at them, especially the tribble one, and the
"It's dead, Jim" gag. Very cute.
I recently cleaned my room (an unpleasant but very necessary task!) and I discovered
a stack of comic magazines I had forgotten I owned. The series is called "Disney
Magazine" and was published in Britain in 1988. There's a "Donald Duck Comic"
title, too. They were "published and distributed by London Editions Magazines, An
Egmont Company" and sold for about 38p. The magazines are 8 and 1/4 inches (about
21 cm) wide and just shy of a foot (29 cm) tall. They each have about 9 or 10
pages. I can provide more infomation if anyone wants it.
These magazines were available in a local comic book store back in 1988, and I
snapped up a bunch for $1.50 apeice, which even then was a reasonable price for a
comic.
Does anyone know about this title? How long it was published, etc?
On an off-topic note:
I need some help from anyone on the list who can read both English and Norwegian. I
have a stack of letters sent from my grandmother's grandfather to my grandmother's
father. (From my great-great-grandfather to my great-grandfather, in other words.)
They were sent from about 1932 to 1956, although there was a Nazi-induced gap during
WWII when no letters could get out.) The sender of these letters was a professor at
the University of Oslo, born 12 Feb. 1861, named Halvor Haugann. My grandmother is
now 70 years old and has been wanting to know what these letters say for her whole
life. If anyone would be willing to help translate some of these letters, I would
be *extremely* grateful. Please contact me by private e-mail if you can help.
Thanks.
I'll be quiet with the off-topic messages now.
Quackcerely,
Katie Q
"I have never let my schooling effect my education." Mark Twain
I've been more or less in lurk mode recently, and will probably continue that way
for awhile. My 1st day of college is tomorrow, and I have a feeling life will get
even more hectic!
Does anyone know if U$ 314 is out in the U.S. yet? I believe that's the next issue
number... I'm just dying to read "The Black Night."
BTW, Don R, I shared some of your Star Trek "filler" drawings on the D.U.C.K.Hunt
page to my best friend. She was LOL at them, especially the tribble one, and the
"It's dead, Jim" gag. Very cute.
I recently cleaned my room (an unpleasant but very necessary task!) and I discovered
a stack of comic magazines I had forgotten I owned. The series is called "Disney
Magazine" and was published in Britain in 1988. There's a "Donald Duck Comic"
title, too. They were "published and distributed by London Editions Magazines, An
Egmont Company" and sold for about 38p. The magazines are 8 and 1/4 inches (about
21 cm) wide and just shy of a foot (29 cm) tall. They each have about 9 or 10
pages. I can provide more infomation if anyone wants it.
These magazines were available in a local comic book store back in 1988, and I
snapped up a bunch for $1.50 apeice, which even then was a reasonable price for a
comic.
Does anyone know about this title? How long it was published, etc?
On an off-topic note:
I need some help from anyone on the list who can read both English and Norwegian. I
have a stack of letters sent from my grandmother's grandfather to my grandmother's
father. (From my great-great-grandfather to my great-grandfather, in other words.)
They were sent from about 1932 to 1956, although there was a Nazi-induced gap during
WWII when no letters could get out.) The sender of these letters was a professor at
the University of Oslo, born 12 Feb. 1861, named Halvor Haugann. My grandmother is
now 70 years old and has been wanting to know what these letters say for her whole
life. If anyone would be willing to help translate some of these letters, I would
be *extremely* grateful. Please contact me by private e-mail if you can help.
Thanks.
I'll be quiet with the off-topic messages now.
Quackcerely,
Katie Q
"I have never let my schooling effect my education." Mark Twain
Kfitz
Scrooge's age
Message 22 -
1998-09-02 at 06:49:57
No, I did not think you were considering $crooge dead, heavens!
I can't remember the reason why Scrooge got younger in "Go Slowly Sands of
Time" but I always felt it started with "Christmas on Bear Mountain". My
theory is Scrooge had become lonely and had stopped having real adventures.
When he got to know his nephews, and of course with HD&L always looking
things up in the JW manual, adventures became unavoidable. Also,
begrudgingly Donald admires and happily HD&L admire Uncle $crooge. It is
much nicer to appreciated by someone. Anyway, I think US just got busy
with living again, forgot his aches and pains, just like you see people do
sometimes in real life.
-Kathy
> Huh? Have I said that I consider Scrooge to be dead by now? No way!!!
> But I do like to establish a birth year and thus his age. He should be
> around 131 years old now! But like you say, the lifespan is limitless, so
> that's not a problem. Actually Scrooge grew younger and younger during
the
> Barks years. The explanation of how that was possible is given in the
story
> "Go Slowly Sands of Time" combined with Rosa's Life of Scrooge.
>
> Halsten
I can't remember the reason why Scrooge got younger in "Go Slowly Sands of
Time" but I always felt it started with "Christmas on Bear Mountain". My
theory is Scrooge had become lonely and had stopped having real adventures.
When he got to know his nephews, and of course with HD&L always looking
things up in the JW manual, adventures became unavoidable. Also,
begrudgingly Donald admires and happily HD&L admire Uncle $crooge. It is
much nicer to appreciated by someone. Anyway, I think US just got busy
with living again, forgot his aches and pains, just like you see people do
sometimes in real life.
-Kathy
> Huh? Have I said that I consider Scrooge to be dead by now? No way!!!
> But I do like to establish a birth year and thus his age. He should be
> around 131 years old now! But like you say, the lifespan is limitless, so
> that's not a problem. Actually Scrooge grew younger and younger during
the
> Barks years. The explanation of how that was possible is given in the
story
> "Go Slowly Sands of Time" combined with Rosa's Life of Scrooge.
>
> Halsten
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Scrooge's age
Message 23 -
1998-09-02 at 10:17:45
KATHY FITZPATRICK:
> I can't remember the reason why Scrooge got younger in "Go Slowly Sands
> of Time" but I always felt it started with "Christmas on Bear
> Mountain". [...] Anyway, I think US just got busy with living again,
> forgot his aches and pains, just like you see people do sometimes in
> real life.
In one story, however, his pains are again back for one(?) time: "The
Paul Bunyan Machine" (US 28). On the splash-panel of the first page
Donald asks why Scrooge looks so crippled (Scrooge looks a bit like
in "Bear Mountain"). Scrooge answers he has rheumatism. In the next
panel he explains: "I don't get rheumatism from *wheather*, Donald!
I get it from *burglars*!"
Greetings,
--- Daniel
A Guidebook to the Carl Barks Universe
http://www.caiw.nl/~dve/barks/index.html
> I can't remember the reason why Scrooge got younger in "Go Slowly Sands
> of Time" but I always felt it started with "Christmas on Bear
> Mountain". [...] Anyway, I think US just got busy with living again,
> forgot his aches and pains, just like you see people do sometimes in
> real life.
In one story, however, his pains are again back for one(?) time: "The
Paul Bunyan Machine" (US 28). On the splash-panel of the first page
Donald asks why Scrooge looks so crippled (Scrooge looks a bit like
in "Bear Mountain"). Scrooge answers he has rheumatism. In the next
panel he explains: "I don't get rheumatism from *wheather*, Donald!
I get it from *burglars*!"
Greetings,
--- Daniel
A Guidebook to the Carl Barks Universe
http://www.caiw.nl/~dve/barks/index.html
Georg.Achatz
posting - first mail
Message 24 -
1998-09-02 at 14:06:01
Hi Soeren, please excuse my horrible school-english.
You want a loooong presentation of myself? Here it is!
Name: Georg ACHATZ
Date of birth: 22-01-62
Born in Augsburg (Bavaria) - Germany
Domicile: D-86343 Koenigsbrunn (Bavaria)
Married, 2 children (4 years, 2 years)
Perhaps I should say that I'm no Disney expert.
The first comics I read were indeed Disney comics and Asterix about 1972.
But it was late I've been interested more in comics (about 1990/91).
So it is very interesting for me to have a look at the daily Disney comics
digest. I could get some hints about VERY good stories and learn more about
Disney comics.
Have YOU now any question that I didn't answer to?
Would you like to give me a presentation of yours?
Georg
You want a loooong presentation of myself? Here it is!
Name: Georg ACHATZ
Date of birth: 22-01-62
Born in Augsburg (Bavaria) - Germany
Domicile: D-86343 Koenigsbrunn (Bavaria)
Married, 2 children (4 years, 2 years)
Perhaps I should say that I'm no Disney expert.
The first comics I read were indeed Disney comics and Asterix about 1972.
But it was late I've been interested more in comics (about 1990/91).
So it is very interesting for me to have a look at the daily Disney comics
digest. I could get some hints about VERY good stories and learn more about
Disney comics.
Have YOU now any question that I didn't answer to?
Would you like to give me a presentation of yours?
Georg
Vidar Svendsen
Scrooge's age
Message 25 -
1998-09-02 at 15:07:37
Daniel van Eijmeren
>In one story, however, his pains are again back for one(?) time: "The
>Paul Bunyan Machine" (US 28). On the splash-panel of the first page
>Donald asks why Scrooge looks so crippled (Scrooge looks a bit like
>in "Bear Mountain"). Scrooge answers he has rheumatism. In the next
>panel he explains: "I don't get rheumatism from *wheather*, Donald!
>I get it from *burglars*!"
And in "The Old Castle's Secret" both Scrooge and Donald get rheumatism
'cause of fear of ghosts
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Vidar Svendsen http://home.sol.no/~vidasven
And he said all those numbers
made him numb,
which (he thinks) is why
they're called numbers
>In one story, however, his pains are again back for one(?) time: "The
>Paul Bunyan Machine" (US 28). On the splash-panel of the first page
>Donald asks why Scrooge looks so crippled (Scrooge looks a bit like
>in "Bear Mountain"). Scrooge answers he has rheumatism. In the next
>panel he explains: "I don't get rheumatism from *wheather*, Donald!
>I get it from *burglars*!"
And in "The Old Castle's Secret" both Scrooge and Donald get rheumatism
'cause of fear of ghosts
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Vidar Svendsen http://home.sol.no/~vidasven
And he said all those numbers
made him numb,
which (he thinks) is why
they're called numbers
Macvuono
Don Rosa Comic Albums
Message 26 -
1998-09-02 at 22:15:50
Does anyone know if Gladstone plans to release more Don Rosa comic albums in
the future? I would love to see his most recent adventures such as "A Little
Something Special" put into one. Gladstone?
the future? I would love to see his most recent adventures such as "A Little
Something Special" put into one. Gladstone?
Robert King
Foreign Mini Lithos
Message 27 -
1998-09-03 at 03:43:41
Hello again!
I found a guy in Austria who want to sell me his "Always Another
Rainbow" lithograph, but the problem is, his is a German edition. I was just
wondering what the difference (especially in apperance) is between it and
the good 'ole US version. Also, he said it did not come with a Certificate.
Is this true? Please give any info you can, so I can make a wise purchase.
Thanks!
Caleb King
-----Original Message-----
[592 lines snipped -- Please make sure you don't quote the whole
digest you reply to!! /Per (the list administrator)]
I found a guy in Austria who want to sell me his "Always Another
Rainbow" lithograph, but the problem is, his is a German edition. I was just
wondering what the difference (especially in apperance) is between it and
the good 'ole US version. Also, he said it did not come with a Certificate.
Is this true? Please give any info you can, so I can make a wise purchase.
Thanks!
Caleb King
-----Original Message-----
[592 lines snipped -- Please make sure you don't quote the whole
digest you reply to!! /Per (the list administrator)]
Mattias Hallin
Well-Educated Duck
Message 28 -
1998-09-03 at 09:21:01
At 17.24 1998-09-01, Don Rosa wrote:
>Typical accoutrements of a sailor are the cap, the corncob pipe, and a
>concertina -- that's probably the only reason I used them, and surely the
>only reason they were used as props in the movie. In other words, it was all
>only a coincidence.
I don't think it is a corncob pipe in the comic, but a regular straight
pipe, just like the one Bing Crosby used to smoke.
>Now, if the comic and the movie both also used "True Love" as the name of a
>boat -- that I can't explain. Perhaps it *was* the original writer's
>intention to make a movie reference, but it wasn't mine in that instance.
OK -- while my association with the movie was strong and instantaneous, I
certainly shan't argue the issue further... I may take another look-see
next time I come across it, and try to figure out why I get such a strong
association, but won't bother anyone else with such further ruminations.
All the best,
/Mattias
*** Mattias Hallin ** Brussels ** Belgium ** <(Email removed)> ***
* *
* "Oh bury me thar! With my battered git-tar! *
************* A-screamin' my heart out fer yew!" *************
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>Typical accoutrements of a sailor are the cap, the corncob pipe, and a
>concertina -- that's probably the only reason I used them, and surely the
>only reason they were used as props in the movie. In other words, it was all
>only a coincidence.
I don't think it is a corncob pipe in the comic, but a regular straight
pipe, just like the one Bing Crosby used to smoke.
>Now, if the comic and the movie both also used "True Love" as the name of a
>boat -- that I can't explain. Perhaps it *was* the original writer's
>intention to make a movie reference, but it wasn't mine in that instance.
OK -- while my association with the movie was strong and instantaneous, I
certainly shan't argue the issue further... I may take another look-see
next time I come across it, and try to figure out why I get such a strong
association, but won't bother anyone else with such further ruminations.
All the best,
/Mattias
*** Mattias Hallin ** Brussels ** Belgium ** <(Email removed)> ***
* *
* "Oh bury me thar! With my battered git-tar! *
************* A-screamin' my heart out fer yew!" *************
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #216
******************************************
Marco Barlotti
A PB-BP story for A. Faria
Message 29 -
1998-09-03 at 17:40:02
A. FARIA (please give my regards to E. Dantes...)
>In this story, Black Pete hides secret plans of some military base
>inside the black belt that Goofy has won in a fake "Hopping-Judo"
>competition. MM+GO then go to Hong-Kong. There, Goofy
>participates in an apparently real competition against Pete; during
>the fight, Pete exchanges his belt by GO's.
This should be a story from "Almanacco Topolino", so the 4-tier format is
the original one! My database at
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/DisneyIndex/almanacco.html
says:
I AT 89-B (May 1964)
Pippo e la cintura amaranto
/Pier Carpi/Brahms/
23/Pippo campione di judo/Topolino, Gambadilegno, Macchia Nera
and I know no reprint of this story. It almost certainly WAS reprinted 1969
or 1970 on "Albi della Rosa", but I don't think there was any later reprint
in Italy...
I am sure I read that story, but my "Almanacco"'s are buried somewhere at
my parents' home and I have no way to reach for them right now.
By the way, Arthur: please DO help us with those B-coded stories!
The absoutely-without-any-discussion-best-of-the-best B-coded story is to
me B 810099. Do you know the names of the writer and/or the artist?
Another good story (not so good art) is B 870024. See
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Fumetti/matrimonio/Paperino
and follow the links. Any info on this?
Another question: what is the FIRST ever story with Fethry's nephew Biquino?
Thanks (and please excuse the silly Dumas pun)
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it
>In this story, Black Pete hides secret plans of some military base
>inside the black belt that Goofy has won in a fake "Hopping-Judo"
>competition. MM+GO then go to Hong-Kong. There, Goofy
>participates in an apparently real competition against Pete; during
>the fight, Pete exchanges his belt by GO's.
This should be a story from "Almanacco Topolino", so the 4-tier format is
the original one! My database at
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/DisneyIndex/almanacco.html
says:
I AT 89-B (May 1964)
Pippo e la cintura amaranto
/Pier Carpi/Brahms/
23/Pippo campione di judo/Topolino, Gambadilegno, Macchia Nera
and I know no reprint of this story. It almost certainly WAS reprinted 1969
or 1970 on "Albi della Rosa", but I don't think there was any later reprint
in Italy...
I am sure I read that story, but my "Almanacco"'s are buried somewhere at
my parents' home and I have no way to reach for them right now.
By the way, Arthur: please DO help us with those B-coded stories!
The absoutely-without-any-discussion-best-of-the-best B-coded story is to
me B 810099. Do you know the names of the writer and/or the artist?
Another good story (not so good art) is B 870024. See
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Fumetti/matrimonio/Paperino
and follow the links. Any info on this?
Another question: what is the FIRST ever story with Fethry's nephew Biquino?
Thanks (and please excuse the silly Dumas pun)
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it
Marco Barlotti
Back on-line
Message 30 -
1998-09-03 at 17:48:04
Wow! 16 days off-line and altogether more than 300 messages to read!
I just raced through the digests for now. Certainly there will be no hope
for me to comment on the various subjects, but I can't help rejoicing on
the Rosa-Barks meeting. This was really GREAT news!
I really like the idea that Uncle Carl will be in touch with our List, and
I hope he can get at least some feeling of the deep love we all have for
him and his work!
Marco
I just raced through the digests for now. Certainly there will be no hope
for me to comment on the various subjects, but I can't help rejoicing on
the Rosa-Barks meeting. This was really GREAT news!
I really like the idea that Uncle Carl will be in touch with our List, and
I hope he can get at least some feeling of the deep love we all have for
him and his work!
Marco