In the Norwegian version of W.H.A.D.A.L.O.T.T.A.J.A.R.G.O.N. [?],
the names are right, Taliaferro and Osborne.
Another place in the same issue it's mentioned
that they were the creators of H,D and L.
I had never heard the name Osborne before the first time I read that story,
so I learned something new that day.
BTW, in the Norwegian translation of the Croesos story,
the song Donald sings is a direct (I think) translation
of the original song.
I had never heard it before, and I didn't know what it was,
but I didn't think it was irritating at all.
I just thought it was a song from a movie Donald had seen [period].
Of course, I thought it was cool when I found out about it...
I think the Norwegian translator(s) usually do a good job,
and they saves (almost) all the jokes and historic references.
O/yvind
Author
Topic: 199809
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Oyvind J. Karstad
Translations
Message 286 -
1998-09-27 at 18:27:52
Luca Boschi
Lucca
Message 287 -
1998-09-27 at 18:55:22
Hi, FABRIZIO!
> I would like to come too.
> May I have one of those passes ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Fabrizio C.
Oviously, YES!
And who other?
Bye,
Luca Boschi
> I would like to come too.
> May I have one of those passes ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Fabrizio C.
Oviously, YES!
And who other?
Bye,
Luca Boschi
Luca Boschi
The Big Race Duckburg - Gooseville
Message 288 -
1998-09-27 at 22:41:23
Hi, all!
I'm happy that some of you comment the story I wrote, published on TL
2234.
Thanks to Dennis, at first (BTW, in which land do you live, how were
you able to get "Topolino" so fastly?).
> I just read one of your stories in Topolino #2234, "La Grande Corsa Paperopoli-Ocopoli. I enjoyed the story very much. It was the first time though that I saw Sgrizzo!! He called Gideone (Scrooge's brother) uncle! Could you or someone else who reads Topolino tell me more about this character.
Sgrizzo is a Scarpa's character, created in 1964, but very rarely used
by him too. I took him out from the dust some years ago, for a fast
cameo in a book (Walt Disney presenta Paperina), drawn by Andrea
Freccero. Scarpa liket our interpretation very much, so later I sent
him a story and layout of another brand new story with Sgrizzo, teamed
up with Gus Goose: "Una baita per Ciccio". I gave Sgrizzo a moto
provided with sidecar, and I tried to explain to readrship that for a
long time he was far from Duckburg because he lived in a wooden home
on the mountains, making a living producing honey.
Later (only last year), I found that Sgrizzo could be sent to Duckburg
again, sometimes, looking for some better jobs. And the first place he
could find was at Uncle's Gideon Newspaper, called in Italy (in the
first Gideon's appearance, conceived by Scarpa) "Il Grillo Parlante".
This story of mine, which showed the first meeting with Gideon and
Sgrizzo, was titled "Sgrizzo reporter ma non troppo". It was given to
draw to the same Freccero, also because Scarpa just suspended his
collaboration with Disney-Italia. And Freccero did a very well done
job, loved also by Scarpa himself, who liked to see living again two
of his almost forgotten characters.
The, I used Sgrizzo in other situations, like in a panel of "Paperinik
e la nefasta caricatura", published in "Paperinik" of Aug. 1998, where
he had a discussion with a sort of possible girl friend of him; or in
the story "Sgrizzo il cavaliere piu' pazzo del mondo", drawn by Lara
Molinari and published in TL in the early Sept., three or four weeks
before "La grande corsa".
Now, in this very moment, I'm writing a new story, where Gideon
decides to "hire" Sgrizzo for a special reportage. I want not say more
about. Only that It shall be an average 32 pages story (I just
finished to draw the 22th page's layout), with some more new
characters and a cemeo of Andy Ascott, the reporter of "Il Grillo
Parlante". The story shall be printed next year.
> Off topic: We have a common friend. Dimitris Georgiadis, the Greek animator-cartoonist with whom you spent some time in Lucca a few years back says "Ciao". He's the one w/ the white hair!
Thank you! Say "Ciao" to him from me. He was presenting some animation
films of him or was only there as a visitor? It was in the year we
hosted Frank Thomas and Ollie Johnston?
TO LUNA STORTA, about "i baffi di Manetta"...
> > went after him. Maybe the first cartoonist to do it was Cavazzano.
> > So, when an old story is reprinted, he has'n, when a new one hits the
> > newsstands, he has.
>
> Well, I didn't noticed that much, but that will be interesting to
> know the story of his moustache, maybe they usually have to face a
> sad destiny because of his cigar? ;-)
Congratulations for your smartness... Like we say in Italy: "Fuochino,
fuochino..."
>
> About "La Grande Corsa Ocopoli-Paperopoli", I'm very happy to see
> that you renewed the Gottfredson tradition of great races, it
> reminded me of Oscar the Ostrich, Pluto, and Tanglefoot all stories
> with great races in Mouseton.
They were inspired to them. Specially to Oscar the Ostrich's one. Also
the artist, faccini, who made his best job in drawing, thought to it,
and had it under his eyes making "La grande corsa".
> The only, little, friendly, criticism I can do to the story is that
> the *high* number of characters appearing in it.
> I like to see again all the characters who seemed to disappear,
> especially Gedeone, but what comes to my mind is if the average age
> of Topolino readers lowered in the last years
It's true! SIGH!
> many young readers can't know all this characters,
> and showing them all together may seem a little strange.
Well, Gideon was in the last year's story I just told upper here and
shall be back in the Sgrizzo's next one. Ascott was in TL only few
weeks before. The main problem might be for OK Quack, whose brain
powers save the day (and the car) to Honkey Go-Kart. Maybe that people
who didn't know who is, don't undestand why do the car flies to the
sky. Indeed, I conceived the story to be some 60 pages long. And I was
compeled to make it shorter for the publishing policy, which very
rarely accepts long stories in recent years. Differently, some
characters would have done much more things (like Fethry, for example)
and for younger audience many thing 'd be more clear.
> (see you in Lucca!)
OK! With Bottaro, Carpi, Rebuffi and friends! In few days you'll see
the very nice Bottaro's poster (colored by Cristina Francesconi) on
the italian walls!
Luca
Luca
I'm happy that some of you comment the story I wrote, published on TL
2234.
Thanks to Dennis, at first (BTW, in which land do you live, how were
you able to get "Topolino" so fastly?).
> I just read one of your stories in Topolino #2234, "La Grande Corsa Paperopoli-Ocopoli. I enjoyed the story very much. It was the first time though that I saw Sgrizzo!! He called Gideone (Scrooge's brother) uncle! Could you or someone else who reads Topolino tell me more about this character.
Sgrizzo is a Scarpa's character, created in 1964, but very rarely used
by him too. I took him out from the dust some years ago, for a fast
cameo in a book (Walt Disney presenta Paperina), drawn by Andrea
Freccero. Scarpa liket our interpretation very much, so later I sent
him a story and layout of another brand new story with Sgrizzo, teamed
up with Gus Goose: "Una baita per Ciccio". I gave Sgrizzo a moto
provided with sidecar, and I tried to explain to readrship that for a
long time he was far from Duckburg because he lived in a wooden home
on the mountains, making a living producing honey.
Later (only last year), I found that Sgrizzo could be sent to Duckburg
again, sometimes, looking for some better jobs. And the first place he
could find was at Uncle's Gideon Newspaper, called in Italy (in the
first Gideon's appearance, conceived by Scarpa) "Il Grillo Parlante".
This story of mine, which showed the first meeting with Gideon and
Sgrizzo, was titled "Sgrizzo reporter ma non troppo". It was given to
draw to the same Freccero, also because Scarpa just suspended his
collaboration with Disney-Italia. And Freccero did a very well done
job, loved also by Scarpa himself, who liked to see living again two
of his almost forgotten characters.
The, I used Sgrizzo in other situations, like in a panel of "Paperinik
e la nefasta caricatura", published in "Paperinik" of Aug. 1998, where
he had a discussion with a sort of possible girl friend of him; or in
the story "Sgrizzo il cavaliere piu' pazzo del mondo", drawn by Lara
Molinari and published in TL in the early Sept., three or four weeks
before "La grande corsa".
Now, in this very moment, I'm writing a new story, where Gideon
decides to "hire" Sgrizzo for a special reportage. I want not say more
about. Only that It shall be an average 32 pages story (I just
finished to draw the 22th page's layout), with some more new
characters and a cemeo of Andy Ascott, the reporter of "Il Grillo
Parlante". The story shall be printed next year.
> Off topic: We have a common friend. Dimitris Georgiadis, the Greek animator-cartoonist with whom you spent some time in Lucca a few years back says "Ciao". He's the one w/ the white hair!
Thank you! Say "Ciao" to him from me. He was presenting some animation
films of him or was only there as a visitor? It was in the year we
hosted Frank Thomas and Ollie Johnston?
TO LUNA STORTA, about "i baffi di Manetta"...
> > went after him. Maybe the first cartoonist to do it was Cavazzano.
> > So, when an old story is reprinted, he has'n, when a new one hits the
> > newsstands, he has.
>
> Well, I didn't noticed that much, but that will be interesting to
> know the story of his moustache, maybe they usually have to face a
> sad destiny because of his cigar? ;-)
Congratulations for your smartness... Like we say in Italy: "Fuochino,
fuochino..."
>
> About "La Grande Corsa Ocopoli-Paperopoli", I'm very happy to see
> that you renewed the Gottfredson tradition of great races, it
> reminded me of Oscar the Ostrich, Pluto, and Tanglefoot all stories
> with great races in Mouseton.
They were inspired to them. Specially to Oscar the Ostrich's one. Also
the artist, faccini, who made his best job in drawing, thought to it,
and had it under his eyes making "La grande corsa".
> The only, little, friendly, criticism I can do to the story is that
> the *high* number of characters appearing in it.
> I like to see again all the characters who seemed to disappear,
> especially Gedeone, but what comes to my mind is if the average age
> of Topolino readers lowered in the last years
It's true! SIGH!
> many young readers can't know all this characters,
> and showing them all together may seem a little strange.
Well, Gideon was in the last year's story I just told upper here and
shall be back in the Sgrizzo's next one. Ascott was in TL only few
weeks before. The main problem might be for OK Quack, whose brain
powers save the day (and the car) to Honkey Go-Kart. Maybe that people
who didn't know who is, don't undestand why do the car flies to the
sky. Indeed, I conceived the story to be some 60 pages long. And I was
compeled to make it shorter for the publishing policy, which very
rarely accepts long stories in recent years. Differently, some
characters would have done much more things (like Fethry, for example)
and for younger audience many thing 'd be more clear.
> (see you in Lucca!)
OK! With Bottaro, Carpi, Rebuffi and friends! In few days you'll see
the very nice Bottaro's poster (colored by Cristina Francesconi) on
the italian walls!
Luca
Luca
Kfitz
To wit or not to wit
Message 289 -
1998-09-28 at 00:31:25
Hi!
One thing about witty references that a creator would put in a story and/or
art, if the creator can't have some fun in creating, whether anyone gets
it or not, the creator's creativity could dry up.
An example of this for me is when I was in high school. Instead of passing
notes of gossip around I was often writing and passing around installments
of a play I was writing based on the how members of a popular rock and roll
each reminded me of characters in "Alice In Wonderland". (I have generally
read this book almost once a year since I was about 8 years old so am very
in tune with the various characters and people often remind of different
ones, especially Mad Hatter, White Rabbit, and Red Queen personalities.)
It wasn't a play so much as it was a satire on life in general and was FULL
of little in jokes. Of course I was Alice, and have often thought
"curiouser and curiouser" about life in general.
Yet people who had never seen the rock and roll group (Don and the
Goodtimes in case anyone actually wants to know) and people who had never
read "Alice In Wonderland" still wanted to read the installments. I wrote
it first to entertain myself but found it greatly amused others. And I
probably wanted partly to see who would catch what jokes and puns, many of
them based on things that seemed relevant at the time.
If I had to worry about who got what out of the ever increasing people that
wanted to read it, I would not have written it at all. Humor has always
kept me sane (if I am indeed sane) and there is never any guarantee that an
audience of any kind is going to get a joke but if they are entertained
they are happy. Anyone who has ever been in a play knows this!
For me knowing that an artist is going to draw funning things going on in
the background or a writer is going to have clever jokes makes that
creator's work all of the more fun as there is a challenge to "catch"
everything and yet I am entertained even if I miss something (and usually
do the first time I read the story).
When I read a Don Rosa story or a Carl Barks story there always seems to
be more going on than immediately may meet the eye. That makes it all the
more fun to reread and reread.
Kathy
One thing about witty references that a creator would put in a story and/or
art, if the creator can't have some fun in creating, whether anyone gets
it or not, the creator's creativity could dry up.
An example of this for me is when I was in high school. Instead of passing
notes of gossip around I was often writing and passing around installments
of a play I was writing based on the how members of a popular rock and roll
each reminded me of characters in "Alice In Wonderland". (I have generally
read this book almost once a year since I was about 8 years old so am very
in tune with the various characters and people often remind of different
ones, especially Mad Hatter, White Rabbit, and Red Queen personalities.)
It wasn't a play so much as it was a satire on life in general and was FULL
of little in jokes. Of course I was Alice, and have often thought
"curiouser and curiouser" about life in general.
Yet people who had never seen the rock and roll group (Don and the
Goodtimes in case anyone actually wants to know) and people who had never
read "Alice In Wonderland" still wanted to read the installments. I wrote
it first to entertain myself but found it greatly amused others. And I
probably wanted partly to see who would catch what jokes and puns, many of
them based on things that seemed relevant at the time.
If I had to worry about who got what out of the ever increasing people that
wanted to read it, I would not have written it at all. Humor has always
kept me sane (if I am indeed sane) and there is never any guarantee that an
audience of any kind is going to get a joke but if they are entertained
they are happy. Anyone who has ever been in a play knows this!
For me knowing that an artist is going to draw funning things going on in
the background or a writer is going to have clever jokes makes that
creator's work all of the more fun as there is a challenge to "catch"
everything and yet I am entertained even if I miss something (and usually
do the first time I read the story).
When I read a Don Rosa story or a Carl Barks story there always seems to
be more going on than immediately may meet the eye. That makes it all the
more fun to reread and reread.
Kathy
Dennis Tzavaras
Madam Mim info?
Message 290 -
1998-09-28 at 09:39:01
Hello everybody,
I was re-reading all Madam Mim stories I've got and I also was looking for info on those stories in the DcD and I have some questions I hope somebody can answer.
When and where did Madam Mim first appear? (Except for Sword in the Stone and any comic adaptation of the film)?
In many stories Mim lives
1. In a castle w/ Magica
2. In a house (that belongs to Scrooge) at the outskirts of Duckburg near(in?) a forest.
3. In a hut in some exotic looking island (in at least one Moby Duck story).
4. In her magic shop *in* Duckburg.
Has it ever been established where she actually lives?
I noticed something strange re Mim in the databse. There are hundreds of Mim stories created in Denmark and Holland while there's only a handful of them made in Italy (except for some S-coded stories). Why is that? Is it because Mim is unpopular in Italy or it's just an editorial decision like Egmont's decision re poor Ludwig?
Dionysios
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I was re-reading all Madam Mim stories I've got and I also was looking for info on those stories in the DcD and I have some questions I hope somebody can answer.
When and where did Madam Mim first appear? (Except for Sword in the Stone and any comic adaptation of the film)?
In many stories Mim lives
1. In a castle w/ Magica
2. In a house (that belongs to Scrooge) at the outskirts of Duckburg near(in?) a forest.
3. In a hut in some exotic looking island (in at least one Moby Duck story).
4. In her magic shop *in* Duckburg.
Has it ever been established where she actually lives?
I noticed something strange re Mim in the databse. There are hundreds of Mim stories created in Denmark and Holland while there's only a handful of them made in Italy (except for some S-coded stories). Why is that? Is it because Mim is unpopular in Italy or it's just an editorial decision like Egmont's decision re poor Ludwig?
Dionysios
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Mikael Andersson
#231 (Galerie Laqua)
Message 291 -
1998-09-28 at 17:21:27
>> What exactly is "Galerie Laqua"?
>Galerie Laqua is a catalouge with original comicbook art
> + related things for sale.
>It's printed about 3 to 4 times a year and contains Disney art in
>every issue. Both rare and previously unseen stuff by people like
>Barks and Schroeder, and the usual covers and comics pages by pepole
>like Jippes and Gatto.
>The address is:
>Galerie Laqua
>Shefferweg 3
>D - 12249 Berlin
>Germany
Ok, thanks for the information, but isn't there anything like a on-line
catalouge or a homepage etc. ?
/Mikael Andersson - gunpoint comics
http://www.dicomics.com/gunpoint
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>Galerie Laqua is a catalouge with original comicbook art
> + related things for sale.
>It's printed about 3 to 4 times a year and contains Disney art in
>every issue. Both rare and previously unseen stuff by people like
>Barks and Schroeder, and the usual covers and comics pages by pepole
>like Jippes and Gatto.
>The address is:
>Galerie Laqua
>Shefferweg 3
>D - 12249 Berlin
>Germany
Ok, thanks for the information, but isn't there anything like a on-line
catalouge or a homepage etc. ?
/Mikael Andersson - gunpoint comics
http://www.dicomics.com/gunpoint
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Luca Boschi
Madam Mim info?
Message 292 -
1998-09-28 at 18:02:09
Hello, Dennis Tzavaras and Hello everybody,
I try to answer verrrrry fastly to your questions.
> When and where did Madam Mim first appear?
I think in "Paperino e la 850" in 1964 in TL, written by G. Martina
and drawn by G. B. Carpi. In the meantime she was include in USA in
some WDC&S stories drawn by T. Strobl, which were published a little
bit later.
> In many stories Mim lives
> 1. In a castle w/ Magica
It's a Jack Kinney idea. See my last e-mail message in this List.
> 2. In a house (that belongs to Scrooge) at the outskirts of Duckburg near(in?) a forest.
In the WDC&S stories (maybe a Vic Lockman idea)...
> 3. In a hut in some exotic looking island (in at least one Moby Duck story).
> 4. In her magic shop *in* Duckburg.
> Has it ever been established where she actually lives?
I think not.
Bye!
Luca
I try to answer verrrrry fastly to your questions.
> When and where did Madam Mim first appear?
I think in "Paperino e la 850" in 1964 in TL, written by G. Martina
and drawn by G. B. Carpi. In the meantime she was include in USA in
some WDC&S stories drawn by T. Strobl, which were published a little
bit later.
> In many stories Mim lives
> 1. In a castle w/ Magica
It's a Jack Kinney idea. See my last e-mail message in this List.
> 2. In a house (that belongs to Scrooge) at the outskirts of Duckburg near(in?) a forest.
In the WDC&S stories (maybe a Vic Lockman idea)...
> 3. In a hut in some exotic looking island (in at least one Moby Duck story).
> 4. In her magic shop *in* Duckburg.
> Has it ever been established where she actually lives?
I think not.
Bye!
Luca
Stefan Diös
Disney comics Digest V98 #239
Message 293 -
1998-09-28 at 19:45:33
OYVIND:
>In the Norwegian version of W.H.A.D.A.L.O.T.T.A.J.A.R.G.O.N. [?],
>the names are right, Taliaferro and Osborne.
>Another place in the same issue it's mentioned
>that they were the creators of H,D and L.
>I had never heard the name Osborne before the first time I read that story,
>so I learned something new that day.
Great! Exactly the way it should be. Then again, it's often the Norwegian
branch of Egmont that asks Don to make special stories on occasion... or am
I wrong here? If they do, it's a natural thing that they should put a little
more effort into their own presentation of them. But why not encourage other
branches to do the same? I have no idea how communication within
multi-mega-huge Egmont works.
>BTW, in the Norwegian translation of the Croesos story,
>the song Donald sings is a direct (I think) translation
>of the original song.
>I had never heard it before, and I didn't know what it was,
>but I didn't think it was irritating at all.
That's also great. Hmmm... maybe that's what I should have done, after
all... Is "Lydia" the correct name of the country in Norwegian?
Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden
>In the Norwegian version of W.H.A.D.A.L.O.T.T.A.J.A.R.G.O.N. [?],
>the names are right, Taliaferro and Osborne.
>Another place in the same issue it's mentioned
>that they were the creators of H,D and L.
>I had never heard the name Osborne before the first time I read that story,
>so I learned something new that day.
Great! Exactly the way it should be. Then again, it's often the Norwegian
branch of Egmont that asks Don to make special stories on occasion... or am
I wrong here? If they do, it's a natural thing that they should put a little
more effort into their own presentation of them. But why not encourage other
branches to do the same? I have no idea how communication within
multi-mega-huge Egmont works.
>BTW, in the Norwegian translation of the Croesos story,
>the song Donald sings is a direct (I think) translation
>of the original song.
>I had never heard it before, and I didn't know what it was,
>but I didn't think it was irritating at all.
That's also great. Hmmm... maybe that's what I should have done, after
all... Is "Lydia" the correct name of the country in Norwegian?
Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden
Anders Chr. Sivebaek
Two Barks books for kids
Message 294 -
1998-09-28 at 19:46:33
Hello
The members who have been here more than a month will remember when I
proudly
told about me using Barks' Cristmas on Bear Mountain as a bedtime story for
a kid,
along with a book-club rewrite of wdc 129 (Pool Sharks). Today I found to
books
published in 1987 by Gutenberghus (God forbid them...) They were called
Duckbooks
and each one contains 3 rewrites of Barks' stories (Well, rewrite is a mild
word -
Maybe you would call it a copy, but it kind of made into a children's book)
Book 1 (Donald and the lion) contains: WDC 203 -Special Delivery, WDC 138
Statuesque
Spendthrifts, WDC 163 Raffle Reversal.
Book 2 (Donald on the diving board) contains firstly the same story as I
read to the boy.
BTW that's why I would call my most funny moment from a Disney Comic: When
Donald
talks about how he's using the three half-parts on his life on different
kinds of garden work;
in general the Comics where Donald works in the garden are funny and
tragical.
Anyway the secons story is WDC 187 Searching for a Successor/Mattress
Factory
(What do you call it?) and the last one is WDC 169 Travelling Truants (one
of my favorits).
Well, hope you weren't to borred of reading this - I would just like to
know what you think
of such books? IMO I cannot decide if it is good, because on one hand they
give Barks'
genuine stories to the kids in a, perhaps, more readable form; on the other
hand they use
the stories as if it were their own (they had the copyright in DK I know) -
There are no
credits to Barks in the books, which BTW are printed in Italy.
I'll be back
Anders Chr.
The members who have been here more than a month will remember when I
proudly
told about me using Barks' Cristmas on Bear Mountain as a bedtime story for
a kid,
along with a book-club rewrite of wdc 129 (Pool Sharks). Today I found to
books
published in 1987 by Gutenberghus (God forbid them...) They were called
Duckbooks
and each one contains 3 rewrites of Barks' stories (Well, rewrite is a mild
word -
Maybe you would call it a copy, but it kind of made into a children's book)
Book 1 (Donald and the lion) contains: WDC 203 -Special Delivery, WDC 138
Statuesque
Spendthrifts, WDC 163 Raffle Reversal.
Book 2 (Donald on the diving board) contains firstly the same story as I
read to the boy.
BTW that's why I would call my most funny moment from a Disney Comic: When
Donald
talks about how he's using the three half-parts on his life on different
kinds of garden work;
in general the Comics where Donald works in the garden are funny and
tragical.
Anyway the secons story is WDC 187 Searching for a Successor/Mattress
Factory
(What do you call it?) and the last one is WDC 169 Travelling Truants (one
of my favorits).
Well, hope you weren't to borred of reading this - I would just like to
know what you think
of such books? IMO I cannot decide if it is good, because on one hand they
give Barks'
genuine stories to the kids in a, perhaps, more readable form; on the other
hand they use
the stories as if it were their own (they had the copyright in DK I know) -
There are no
credits to Barks in the books, which BTW are printed in Italy.
I'll be back
Anders Chr.
Francois Willot
Scarpa, Barks, Ferioli
Message 295 -
1998-09-28 at 20:49:32
To me, one of the most funny moment in a Disney comic is the third &
fourth page of I TL 574-A, "Paperino e l'euforgasaur" by Scarpa and
Rizzo.
Or the moment when Scrooge fights with Donald in those giant machines in
"Letter to Santa". Or when he pays the judge 20 billions of dollars
instead of 10 billions.
Or (other possibility) when Minnie is listenning Mickey's poem in
"Fantasy Island".
Francois
fourth page of I TL 574-A, "Paperino e l'euforgasaur" by Scarpa and
Rizzo.
Or the moment when Scrooge fights with Donald in those giant machines in
"Letter to Santa". Or when he pays the judge 20 billions of dollars
instead of 10 billions.
Or (other possibility) when Minnie is listenning Mickey's poem in
"Fantasy Island".
Francois
Arild Saether
Kari Korhonen
Message 296 -
1998-09-28 at 23:19:52
Hey!
After Norwegian DD&Co started putting credits under the stories its been
much easier to find out which are the good and bad writers, plus that its
fun to guess who drew and wrote the story, when the you know you can look up
the answer, without using alot of time to find it on the DcD. All the
drawers/writers that I like are mentioned on this ML from time to time, but
I've never seen anybody comment on Kari Korhonen, as I've recently have been
enjoying storys of. Shes the writer of "Lov og uorden" ("Law and notorder"
very badly translated D 97221) and "Bare en tioering" ("Just a dime" D
97340). In these storys she changes a bit on the usual plot, so that the
Beagles and Magica uses "new" methods to steal Scrooges money/nr.1 dime.
They've probably been done before, but not as successful as in Korhonens
scripts IMHO. "Lov og uorden" has of course gained a big plus due to Brancas
fierceful faceexpressions. Maybe you've even discussed Korhonen, but I've
been away for some months (military), but I'd like to know what you think of
her stories.
STEFAN:
Yes, the former country Lydia is spelled Lydia in Norway, making it a little
easier for the norwegian translators than for you swedish guys, I guess.
--Arild
After Norwegian DD&Co started putting credits under the stories its been
much easier to find out which are the good and bad writers, plus that its
fun to guess who drew and wrote the story, when the you know you can look up
the answer, without using alot of time to find it on the DcD. All the
drawers/writers that I like are mentioned on this ML from time to time, but
I've never seen anybody comment on Kari Korhonen, as I've recently have been
enjoying storys of. Shes the writer of "Lov og uorden" ("Law and notorder"
very badly translated D 97221) and "Bare en tioering" ("Just a dime" D
97340). In these storys she changes a bit on the usual plot, so that the
Beagles and Magica uses "new" methods to steal Scrooges money/nr.1 dime.
They've probably been done before, but not as successful as in Korhonens
scripts IMHO. "Lov og uorden" has of course gained a big plus due to Brancas
fierceful faceexpressions. Maybe you've even discussed Korhonen, but I've
been away for some months (military), but I'd like to know what you think of
her stories.
STEFAN:
Yes, the former country Lydia is spelled Lydia in Norway, making it a little
easier for the norwegian translators than for you swedish guys, I guess.
--Arild
Jussi Mantere
Kari Korhonen
Message 297 -
1998-09-28 at 23:28:31
On Mon, 28 Sep 1998, Arild Saether wrote:
> fierceful faceexpressions. Maybe you've even discussed Korhonen, but I've
> been away for some months (military), but I'd like to know what you think of
> her stories.
His, actually.
I don't remember seeing anything special about Korhonen during the past
6(?) months I've been subscribing.
I remember there was a short article about him in Aku Ankka in May'98 I
suppose, but I can't really remember anything :(
Can anyone tell us more?
-jussi
--
"I feel that music is the spirit, and the only thing that interests me is
where it connects with the human relationships, because if technology
doesn't serve that, it serves nothing." -bono
> fierceful faceexpressions. Maybe you've even discussed Korhonen, but I've
> been away for some months (military), but I'd like to know what you think of
> her stories.
His, actually.
I don't remember seeing anything special about Korhonen during the past
6(?) months I've been subscribing.
I remember there was a short article about him in Aku Ankka in May'98 I
suppose, but I can't really remember anything :(
Can anyone tell us more?
-jussi
--
"I feel that music is the spirit, and the only thing that interests me is
where it connects with the human relationships, because if technology
doesn't serve that, it serves nothing." -bono
Dennis Tzavaras
Digests #238, #239
Message 298 -
1998-09-29 at 10:04:05
Hello everybody, at last Autumn is here. My favorite season! It's raining, and I love the smell of wet leaves. That's the time I enjoy reading comics most! :)
On to some comments:
Re: The Mim-Magica thread. I practically devoured all the info of all your msgs. It seems to me I'm getting really hooked up on this list. (First time that happens as I get bored by most lists after a couple of weeks). Anyway, I was reading such a story last night titled (from Greek to English) "The Magic Flute". There's no code on it but it's about Mim and Magica using a magic flute to lure the children of Duckburg to their castle. The children turn out to be even more of menace than the 2 witches. The translator butchered the story perfectly to the point that some panels don't make sense but I noticed some discrepancies in the art. Magica's legs are white instead of orange and in some panels her beak is also white. Is that also the case in other editions of that story?
KRITON wrote:
>Besides, you wouldn't be the *only* Greek Trekker in this list... :-)
Hey, great! :)
>And *not* pay an arm and a leg for them? I remember one could buy
back issues at the publisher,
Well, that depends on your definition of "an arm and a leg". In Monastiraki (for non-Greek list members. Monastiraki lit. Little Monastery is a big flea-market near the Acropolis where one can find everything. Second-hand furniture, used books and comics, whatever. Except that nowadays "second-hand" means "antique" and "used" means "collectible"), they ask very high prices but there are other places that have much lower prices.
>"Treasury of Croesus", where Magica is
I haven't read that story unfortunately. has it been published in KOMIX? BTW, I *do* hope you have finally received both my e-mails. I got yours a couple of days ago.
PAOLO wrote:
>Hi Dennis, and welcome on the list!
I 100% agree with you about this Magica *story*, too bad that the art isn't good (IMHO).
Reading this story, I had the impression that something was changed
respect the author's intentions: at page 157, the last panel shows
Teo's "demoniac" face, that seems to allude to something bigger than
his change at the end of the story: I was imagining
something more mysterious about him... something like he being a
descendent of a wizard without knowing it, or a magician himself...
something deeper than a bad influence from Magica....
What do you think?
BTW we all know that many times some stories have been redrawn before
being published in other countries... if the "bosses" at Egmont want
to publish this *GOOD* story, what about makin' it redrawn by Marco
Rota? You surely would sell a couple of copies
more.... from me! ;-)
Thank you for your welcome Paolo! Yes, I got the feeling that this story had been edited before or after drawn. Same as that other "what-if" story I mentioned in a previous mail (in which Magica manages to finally get $'s dime). As it is, that Teo panel doesn't make sense. Of course there's the possiblity that it was only a "teaser" and we'll see Teo again, but....I doubt it.
The art was neither good nor bad, IMHO but if Egmont decided to have that story re-drawn I'd most definitely buy several copies in any language they print it!!
LUCA wrote:
>Thanks to Dennis, at first (BTW, in which land do you live, how were
you able to get "Topolino" so fastly?).
You are very welcome. As I've mentioned in my private e-mail I sent you I live in Athens, Greece and we get Topolino and some other Italian Disney titles (not all, unfortunately, snif!!) only days after they're on sale in Italy.Thanks for all your info re Mim. I'd like to buy some of your books. Is there a way I could order them on-line? :)
FRANCOIS:
I'm glad you like Brigitta. Strangely though I don't remember having seen any stories w/ her in French Disney comics (Picsou and Journal).
That's it for now. See you anon!
Dionysios(Dennis)
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On to some comments:
Re: The Mim-Magica thread. I practically devoured all the info of all your msgs. It seems to me I'm getting really hooked up on this list. (First time that happens as I get bored by most lists after a couple of weeks). Anyway, I was reading such a story last night titled (from Greek to English) "The Magic Flute". There's no code on it but it's about Mim and Magica using a magic flute to lure the children of Duckburg to their castle. The children turn out to be even more of menace than the 2 witches. The translator butchered the story perfectly to the point that some panels don't make sense but I noticed some discrepancies in the art. Magica's legs are white instead of orange and in some panels her beak is also white. Is that also the case in other editions of that story?
KRITON wrote:
>Besides, you wouldn't be the *only* Greek Trekker in this list... :-)
Hey, great! :)
>And *not* pay an arm and a leg for them? I remember one could buy
back issues at the publisher,
Well, that depends on your definition of "an arm and a leg". In Monastiraki (for non-Greek list members. Monastiraki lit. Little Monastery is a big flea-market near the Acropolis where one can find everything. Second-hand furniture, used books and comics, whatever. Except that nowadays "second-hand" means "antique" and "used" means "collectible"), they ask very high prices but there are other places that have much lower prices.
>"Treasury of Croesus", where Magica is
I haven't read that story unfortunately. has it been published in KOMIX? BTW, I *do* hope you have finally received both my e-mails. I got yours a couple of days ago.
PAOLO wrote:
>Hi Dennis, and welcome on the list!
I 100% agree with you about this Magica *story*, too bad that the art isn't good (IMHO).
Reading this story, I had the impression that something was changed
respect the author's intentions: at page 157, the last panel shows
Teo's "demoniac" face, that seems to allude to something bigger than
his change at the end of the story: I was imagining
something more mysterious about him... something like he being a
descendent of a wizard without knowing it, or a magician himself...
something deeper than a bad influence from Magica....
What do you think?
BTW we all know that many times some stories have been redrawn before
being published in other countries... if the "bosses" at Egmont want
to publish this *GOOD* story, what about makin' it redrawn by Marco
Rota? You surely would sell a couple of copies
more.... from me! ;-)
Thank you for your welcome Paolo! Yes, I got the feeling that this story had been edited before or after drawn. Same as that other "what-if" story I mentioned in a previous mail (in which Magica manages to finally get $'s dime). As it is, that Teo panel doesn't make sense. Of course there's the possiblity that it was only a "teaser" and we'll see Teo again, but....I doubt it.
The art was neither good nor bad, IMHO but if Egmont decided to have that story re-drawn I'd most definitely buy several copies in any language they print it!!
LUCA wrote:
>Thanks to Dennis, at first (BTW, in which land do you live, how were
you able to get "Topolino" so fastly?).
You are very welcome. As I've mentioned in my private e-mail I sent you I live in Athens, Greece and we get Topolino and some other Italian Disney titles (not all, unfortunately, snif!!) only days after they're on sale in Italy.Thanks for all your info re Mim. I'd like to buy some of your books. Is there a way I could order them on-line? :)
FRANCOIS:
I'm glad you like Brigitta. Strangely though I don't remember having seen any stories w/ her in French Disney comics (Picsou and Journal).
That's it for now. See you anon!
Dionysios(Dennis)
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Arthur Faria Jr.
Character's names
Message 299 -
1998-09-29 at 10:59:20
Hi!
Many thanks to Francois Willot and David Gerstein for answered my
questions about the names of MDS' secondary character and those
two thieves.
And how about the other original names I've listed?
I'm still curious... :-). Remembering:
- The super-thief from W SG 4-00 and his bungler assistant.
- M+G's *codenames* in Murry+Spiegle stories where they're secret
agents in real world; their vehicle and the secret organization.
- Hazel the Witch's nephew (drawn by Strobl).
Dennis Tzavaras, about Hazel the Witch's nephew:
> She has a nephew?!?!?!? More info pls!!!
He appeared at least in one Strobl S-coded story (I don't know
the original title and code), coming to Hazel's home for Halloween.
He had a magical suitcase which created monsters and other
creepy creatures. In Brazil in the 70s he, together with MDS'
niece(s) and using a jet-broom, was a constant character in
MDS + Mim stories (and sometimes Hazel), flying in a "modern"
jet-broom. He liked to play pranks to them.
--Arthur F.
Many thanks to Francois Willot and David Gerstein for answered my
questions about the names of MDS' secondary character and those
two thieves.
And how about the other original names I've listed?
I'm still curious... :-). Remembering:
- The super-thief from W SG 4-00 and his bungler assistant.
- M+G's *codenames* in Murry+Spiegle stories where they're secret
agents in real world; their vehicle and the secret organization.
- Hazel the Witch's nephew (drawn by Strobl).
Dennis Tzavaras, about Hazel the Witch's nephew:
> She has a nephew?!?!?!? More info pls!!!
He appeared at least in one Strobl S-coded story (I don't know
the original title and code), coming to Hazel's home for Halloween.
He had a magical suitcase which created monsters and other
creepy creatures. In Brazil in the 70s he, together with MDS'
niece(s) and using a jet-broom, was a constant character in
MDS + Mim stories (and sometimes Hazel), flying in a "modern"
jet-broom. He liked to play pranks to them.
--Arthur F.
Marco Barlotti
Casey's mustache
Message 300 -
1998-09-29 at 11:57:57
LUCA BOSCHI:
>Well, a courious thing which has become *normal* in the italian
>stories is tha he [Casey] wears MUS[TA]CHE (baffi). It's a mistake,
obviously. A
>cartoonist started to drew the "superior" part of his mouth " a' la
>Joe Piper", like it were a very subtile line of "baffi" and other one
>went after him. Maybe the first cartoonist to do it was Cavazzano.
>So, when an old story is reprinted, he has'n, when a new one hits the
>newsstands, he has.
>Don't copy this IDEA OF MINE, but I feel necessary to write a story in
>which this alternate looks of him is explained to readers; I'm not
>kiddin'. It's an interesting case for him, isn'it?
>
>What do you think about this weird situation? I ask it specially to
>MARCO, PAOLO, DONALD...
I'm sorry to tell you, Luca, but you've been scooped...
Please read (again)
I TL 2183-1 (30-9-1997)
L'ispettore Manetta sul filo del rasoio
/Faraci/Cavazzano/
25//Rock Sassi, Basettoni, Gambadilegno
...first panel of the fourth page. Rock Sassi says, speaking of Casey:
"....and he's always shaved and scented; and that mustache! He just doesn't
seem to be the same person!"
whereafter an explanation of WHY Casey is always freshly shaved and now
wears a mustache comes in a few pages...
And it's a GOOD story! (As always with Tito Faraci IMHO)
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics
>Well, a courious thing which has become *normal* in the italian
>stories is tha he [Casey] wears MUS[TA]CHE (baffi). It's a mistake,
obviously. A
>cartoonist started to drew the "superior" part of his mouth " a' la
>Joe Piper", like it were a very subtile line of "baffi" and other one
>went after him. Maybe the first cartoonist to do it was Cavazzano.
>So, when an old story is reprinted, he has'n, when a new one hits the
>newsstands, he has.
>Don't copy this IDEA OF MINE, but I feel necessary to write a story in
>which this alternate looks of him is explained to readers; I'm not
>kiddin'. It's an interesting case for him, isn'it?
>
>What do you think about this weird situation? I ask it specially to
>MARCO, PAOLO, DONALD...
I'm sorry to tell you, Luca, but you've been scooped...
Please read (again)
I TL 2183-1 (30-9-1997)
L'ispettore Manetta sul filo del rasoio
/Faraci/Cavazzano/
25//Rock Sassi, Basettoni, Gambadilegno
...first panel of the fourth page. Rock Sassi says, speaking of Casey:
"....and he's always shaved and scented; and that mustache! He just doesn't
seem to be the same person!"
whereafter an explanation of WHY Casey is always freshly shaved and now
wears a mustache comes in a few pages...
And it's a GOOD story! (As always with Tito Faraci IMHO)
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics