Many of the covers that Don did for the Disney comics line in 1993 were
conceived and imagined by Bob Foster, editor of "Uncle Scrooge" and "Donald
Duck adventures".
Sketches and final art samples can be found here:
http://www2.ec-lille.fr/willot/coa/div/at/dr2.php
This page also includes a sketch by Don Rosa for Donald Duck #34 that I
haven't seen anywhere else!
Many thanks again to Bob Foster for sending me the scans.
Francois Willot
Author
Topic: 200102
(245 messages)
François Willot
Comic Book Covers by Don Rosa
Message 106 -
2001-02-11 at 16:44:42
François Willot
Barrier book
Message 107 -
2001-02-11 at 17:19:41
To Mike Barrier:
First let me say that your book is one of the greatest and most complete
bibliography on Barks I have ever seen. It's a truly brilliant work. I was
one of lucky last few persons to buy it in the early 90s. Unfortunately my
copy is in bad condition now (I whish it could be reprinted).
One error that I mentioned to Daniel and to this list is the first
appearance of Daisy which is in "The Mighty Trapper" (cameo appearance in
WDC 36) and not "Donald Tames his Temper" (WDC 64). I guess you know this
error by now.
Also, you say the Grandma Duck story drawn by Barks for WDC 132 is ten pages
long. It is eight pages instead.
I guess there's no need to send you all new data about reprints from 1978 to
now nor about Barks' later stories (Horsing around with history, the scripts
he made for the Disney editors in Denmark by Tom Anderson and Vicar,
Somewhere in Nowhere etc.) and recent revelations - the gag ideas he
submited to the Donald daily strips in 1939 and 1940. They all are in the
Disney Comics database on the Internet (called Inducks) to which I'm
contributing.
http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/inducks/
In a few days a complete bibliography of Barks in France will be published
(for the first time here). This bibliography starts from the original US
comics and includes all reprints we know of.
Francois Willot
Lille, France
First let me say that your book is one of the greatest and most complete
bibliography on Barks I have ever seen. It's a truly brilliant work. I was
one of lucky last few persons to buy it in the early 90s. Unfortunately my
copy is in bad condition now (I whish it could be reprinted).
One error that I mentioned to Daniel and to this list is the first
appearance of Daisy which is in "The Mighty Trapper" (cameo appearance in
WDC 36) and not "Donald Tames his Temper" (WDC 64). I guess you know this
error by now.
Also, you say the Grandma Duck story drawn by Barks for WDC 132 is ten pages
long. It is eight pages instead.
I guess there's no need to send you all new data about reprints from 1978 to
now nor about Barks' later stories (Horsing around with history, the scripts
he made for the Disney editors in Denmark by Tom Anderson and Vicar,
Somewhere in Nowhere etc.) and recent revelations - the gag ideas he
submited to the Donald daily strips in 1939 and 1940. They all are in the
Disney Comics database on the Internet (called Inducks) to which I'm
contributing.
http://stp.ling.uu.se/~starback/dcml/inducks/
In a few days a complete bibliography of Barks in France will be published
(for the first time here). This bibliography starts from the original US
comics and includes all reprints we know of.
Francois Willot
Lille, France
Arttu Salminen
Fort Lauderdale
Message 108 -
2001-02-11 at 19:35:06
I'm going to Fort Lauderdale, Florida for 10 days on my vacation. Does
anyone know any good comic book-stores there or near by it?
Arttu Salminen
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Digest #405
Message 109 -
2001-02-11 at 20:12:33
From: Thomas Barry <thomasbarry2001 at yahoo.co.uk>
>>>I'd love to see something with Donald as a kid. If you
like the idea. Maybe you can suggest something to
Picsou for another special issue.
No, I've been seeing some "Donald as a youth" stories in the Egmont comics
already. So I'll leave that idea to those who seem to have apparently
either been assigned it or staked it out. I can't read the stories, but I
think I'd like 'em -- the art seems to be depicting a timeless small-town
period which, to *my* eyes, looks very early-1930's-ish, which would be
when I'd want to see stories of DD's youth take place. It looks like they
are doing it as I do with my stories where I set them in the 1950's,
showing nothing beyond 1950's technology, but still just letting the
readers decide for themselves when they want the story to take place.
Those of you who can read them -- what reason do they give for DD living
with his Grandma? My attitude to the several old (Strobl, I think) stories
that show this is the simple explanation that DD spends the summers or
other holidays on the grandparents' farm, which is how it was with many
American kids in the early-mid 20th Century.
>>>I'd love to see something with Donald as a kid. If you
like the idea. Maybe you can suggest something to
Picsou for another special issue.
No, I've been seeing some "Donald as a youth" stories in the Egmont comics
already. So I'll leave that idea to those who seem to have apparently
either been assigned it or staked it out. I can't read the stories, but I
think I'd like 'em -- the art seems to be depicting a timeless small-town
period which, to *my* eyes, looks very early-1930's-ish, which would be
when I'd want to see stories of DD's youth take place. It looks like they
are doing it as I do with my stories where I set them in the 1950's,
showing nothing beyond 1950's technology, but still just letting the
readers decide for themselves when they want the story to take place.
Those of you who can read them -- what reason do they give for DD living
with his Grandma? My attitude to the several old (Strobl, I think) stories
that show this is the simple explanation that DD spends the summers or
other holidays on the grandparents' farm, which is how it was with many
American kids in the early-mid 20th Century.
Fernando Ventura
Canini's premiun!
Message 110 -
2001-02-11 at 20:21:31
Yesterday, Renato Canini, veteran Disney Comic drawer and writer, received
the premium Angelo Agostini as "Comic book master".
Canini was not on the premiation, and Waldyr Igayara de Souza(another
veteran Disney drawer and writer), received to him.
He was born on Para?, Rio Grande do Sul, in 1934, if I'm sure.
Canini is the responsible for the "brazilization" of Z? Carioca. He worked
with the character durign 1970 and 1976. His style was very sintetical, with
beautiful and with few lines. He use many textures, non-Disney things! For
example, he never drew Disney cloud...he scratched a ink blotch with a broke
Gillete, and this is the Canini's cloud!
His background characters are very political, and, to justify the loooong
noses, he put a dog noise, and sad that this is Disney!
His Disney characters are small, and simples. They work very well with the 4
tires layout, and we're usign the "formatinho" format, since this days!
Canini made to the parrot, somethign that Floyd Gottfredson did to the
Mouse, and somethign that Barks did for the Duck.
After Canini, Z? Carioca is never more the same. He developed the character,
and his histories are the most realistic representation of the REAL Brazil
in any Disney comic book. He maked a graphic revolution, and revolucioned
more than anyone in Brazil, on this days, the Disney histories. It's
difficult to understand Canini...his characters don't have the nomal "Disney
appeal"...they are very, very cartoonizess. His style is difficult to accept
when we read it for the first time....it is necessary to read it with others
eyes. With a more revolutionionary eyes. He is different. It's very, very
easy to look at a Canini, and to know that he maked it. He has his very own
style.
But, Disney,never accept Canini. And they tryed to put he out, and Igayara,
his editor, tryed to convince him to adapt his draw a little more to the
Disney style. But he never did it, because he "like it as it is"...and
Disney put him out. Disney never was able to understand him, and Disney
brazilian comics lost his most big innovator.
After Disney, he made work for the famous "Recreio" magazine, in Brazil. And
made some ilustrations to many books, and take part on some Humour
expositions in the world.
It is just now, that people like Igayara re discovered Canini. Nobody knows
were he was until some months ago! Now, he lives on Pelotas, Rio Grande do
Sul, married with Maria de Lourdes(Miroca), that is a drawer too.
The premiation is very bad, on my oppinion. It ocurred on one of the few
comic shops we have here in S?o Paulo. Very small place, and very bad
presentation of the artist's works! It's just xerox on the walls! But, it's
important, in my oppiniom, this premiation. Thre are many veteran Disney
artists on the premiation, and many others comic boks especialist, fans and
professionals. Of the Disney creators, are on the premiation:
Primaggio Mantovi(writer, drawer and ex-editor on Abril),
Waldyr Igayara de Souza(second Carioca drawer on Brazil, responsible for the
inicial evolution of Jos?, writer and inker,
Editorial editor on Abril, durign the "gold age", and creator of Biquinho
and co-creator of the concept "Os Adolescentes" with Primaggio)
Rodolpho Zalla(drawer of many "Zorro" brazilian histories)
Alv?ro de Moya(especialist on comics, maked some brazilian covers durign the
50's, organizator of the first comic exposition in the world)
Wilson Magalh?es(great brazilian inker)
Unfortunatelly, I don't have pictures to show to you! :(
My friend, that has the camera, doesn't went...
But, if I'm able to find some pictures of this day, I will show you!
Thanks!
Fernando! :)
(that is very happy to know that one of his most preferred Disney artists
received a premiun like this)
the premium Angelo Agostini as "Comic book master".
Canini was not on the premiation, and Waldyr Igayara de Souza(another
veteran Disney drawer and writer), received to him.
He was born on Para?, Rio Grande do Sul, in 1934, if I'm sure.
Canini is the responsible for the "brazilization" of Z? Carioca. He worked
with the character durign 1970 and 1976. His style was very sintetical, with
beautiful and with few lines. He use many textures, non-Disney things! For
example, he never drew Disney cloud...he scratched a ink blotch with a broke
Gillete, and this is the Canini's cloud!
His background characters are very political, and, to justify the loooong
noses, he put a dog noise, and sad that this is Disney!
His Disney characters are small, and simples. They work very well with the 4
tires layout, and we're usign the "formatinho" format, since this days!
Canini made to the parrot, somethign that Floyd Gottfredson did to the
Mouse, and somethign that Barks did for the Duck.
After Canini, Z? Carioca is never more the same. He developed the character,
and his histories are the most realistic representation of the REAL Brazil
in any Disney comic book. He maked a graphic revolution, and revolucioned
more than anyone in Brazil, on this days, the Disney histories. It's
difficult to understand Canini...his characters don't have the nomal "Disney
appeal"...they are very, very cartoonizess. His style is difficult to accept
when we read it for the first time....it is necessary to read it with others
eyes. With a more revolutionionary eyes. He is different. It's very, very
easy to look at a Canini, and to know that he maked it. He has his very own
style.
But, Disney,never accept Canini. And they tryed to put he out, and Igayara,
his editor, tryed to convince him to adapt his draw a little more to the
Disney style. But he never did it, because he "like it as it is"...and
Disney put him out. Disney never was able to understand him, and Disney
brazilian comics lost his most big innovator.
After Disney, he made work for the famous "Recreio" magazine, in Brazil. And
made some ilustrations to many books, and take part on some Humour
expositions in the world.
It is just now, that people like Igayara re discovered Canini. Nobody knows
were he was until some months ago! Now, he lives on Pelotas, Rio Grande do
Sul, married with Maria de Lourdes(Miroca), that is a drawer too.
The premiation is very bad, on my oppinion. It ocurred on one of the few
comic shops we have here in S?o Paulo. Very small place, and very bad
presentation of the artist's works! It's just xerox on the walls! But, it's
important, in my oppiniom, this premiation. Thre are many veteran Disney
artists on the premiation, and many others comic boks especialist, fans and
professionals. Of the Disney creators, are on the premiation:
Primaggio Mantovi(writer, drawer and ex-editor on Abril),
Waldyr Igayara de Souza(second Carioca drawer on Brazil, responsible for the
inicial evolution of Jos?, writer and inker,
Editorial editor on Abril, durign the "gold age", and creator of Biquinho
and co-creator of the concept "Os Adolescentes" with Primaggio)
Rodolpho Zalla(drawer of many "Zorro" brazilian histories)
Alv?ro de Moya(especialist on comics, maked some brazilian covers durign the
50's, organizator of the first comic exposition in the world)
Wilson Magalh?es(great brazilian inker)
Unfortunatelly, I don't have pictures to show to you! :(
My friend, that has the camera, doesn't went...
But, if I'm able to find some pictures of this day, I will show you!
Thanks!
Fernando! :)
(that is very happy to know that one of his most preferred Disney artists
received a premiun like this)
Becca Ridout
Flaming
Message 111 -
2001-02-11 at 22:44:15
Ok, I have been silent on this matter but I think this is getting out of
hand. I agree that I was mildly annoyed with some of Kenneth's initial
messages, and agreed with many of the first responses to them....but give
this guy a break! I think this excessive attacking of his site has gone too
far. Not everyone has equal talent with computers but that doesn't mean they
don't have a right to try to make their own websites. Kenneth's site has a
long way to go but it's still better than what I know how to do. I have
friends who are computer science majors who haven't learned htm yet, so why
don't you just leave him alone?
rebecca
> > Flaming? I hope you meant to use another word.
>I did mean it.
>And let me add that if you don't tell a person that his site plainly >sucks
>he'll never realize and never do anything to improve it. Do you want
>thoundands of Frontpage-made sites on the web? I don't think any
>intelligent person in the world might want such thing. It takes half a >day
>to study HTML, is this pretending too much?
>Actually, this should have been said to him privately rather than on the
>list, that might be true, so that he could not possibly take any >offence,
>as he did. I just hope he has realized that he was wrong and that he's
>studying some HTML. Sure if he keeps saying to each newcomer "Oh, I was
>treated so baad, when I arrived here" is not a good sign.
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hand. I agree that I was mildly annoyed with some of Kenneth's initial
messages, and agreed with many of the first responses to them....but give
this guy a break! I think this excessive attacking of his site has gone too
far. Not everyone has equal talent with computers but that doesn't mean they
don't have a right to try to make their own websites. Kenneth's site has a
long way to go but it's still better than what I know how to do. I have
friends who are computer science majors who haven't learned htm yet, so why
don't you just leave him alone?
rebecca
> > Flaming? I hope you meant to use another word.
>I did mean it.
>And let me add that if you don't tell a person that his site plainly >sucks
>he'll never realize and never do anything to improve it. Do you want
>thoundands of Frontpage-made sites on the web? I don't think any
>intelligent person in the world might want such thing. It takes half a >day
>to study HTML, is this pretending too much?
>Actually, this should have been said to him privately rather than on the
>list, that might be true, so that he could not possibly take any >offence,
>as he did. I just hope he has realized that he was wrong and that he's
>studying some HTML. Sure if he keeps saying to each newcomer "Oh, I was
>treated so baad, when I arrived here" is not a good sign.
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[Fort Lauderdale]
Message 112 -
2001-02-11 at 22:49:28
> No, but I recommend you visit the International Museum of Cartoon Art in Boca
> Raton. I was there just over a year ago to see the Charles Schulz exhibit
> that was there at the time. I don't know what they're current exhibit is but
> their standing exhibits are worth seeing. Their website is www.cartoon.org.
>
> Arttu Salminen wrote:
>
> > I'm going to Fort Lauderdale, Florida for 10 days on my vacation. Does
> > anyone know any good comic book-stores there or near by it?
> >
> > Arttu Salminen
> >
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> -Dale Gribble
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-Dale Gribble
> Raton. I was there just over a year ago to see the Charles Schulz exhibit
> that was there at the time. I don't know what they're current exhibit is but
> their standing exhibits are worth seeing. Their website is www.cartoon.org.
>
> Arttu Salminen wrote:
>
> > I'm going to Fort Lauderdale, Florida for 10 days on my vacation. Does
> > anyone know any good comic book-stores there or near by it?
> >
> > Arttu Salminen
> >
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> -Dale Gribble
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Francesco Spreafico
Flaming
Message 113 -
2001-02-11 at 22:51:10
From: "Becca Ridout" <skyrat13 at hotmail.com>
> don't you just leave him alone?
You're right (about this), I'll shut up.
--
Sprea
> don't you just leave him alone?
You're right (about this), I'll shut up.
--
Sprea
W W
Pluto Catches a Nazi Spy
Message 114 -
2001-02-12 at 00:13:05
I have updated my page on "Pluto Catches a Nazi Spy"
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Easel/4942/63.htm
Enjoy!
WW
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Thank you fernando for the article on Canini
Message 115 -
2001-02-12 at 00:56:07
I have posted the text on the web (with some modifications) to:
http://mailotron.forez.com/alfredsirven/canini.php3
Best to everyone
Favio
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Don Rosa
Message 116 -
2001-02-12 at 01:01:30
>>I'd love to see something with Donald as a kid. If
>>you like the idea. Maybe you can suggest something
>>to Picsou for another special issue.
>
>No, I've been seeing some "Donald as a youth"
>stories in the Egmont comics already. So I'll
>leave that idea to those who seem to have
>apparently either been assigned it or staked it out.
OK! Seems to be a good reason!
Thomas Barry
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>>you like the idea. Maybe you can suggest something
>>to Picsou for another special issue.
>
>No, I've been seeing some "Donald as a youth"
>stories in the Egmont comics already. So I'll
>leave that idea to those who seem to have
>apparently either been assigned it or staked it out.
OK! Seems to be a good reason!
Thomas Barry
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Halsten Aastebol
Barrier book
Message 117 -
2001-02-12 at 09:25:53
At 09:21 11.02.01 -0500, Jmbarrier at aol.com wrote:
> Unfortunately, the publisher--whose
>motives are a complete mystery to me--has reprinted the book without making
>any changes in it.
Wow!
Does this mean that your book is now available? If so, where?
I've read it once, but would really like to buy it.
Halsten
> Unfortunately, the publisher--whose
>motives are a complete mystery to me--has reprinted the book without making
>any changes in it.
Wow!
Does this mean that your book is now available? If so, where?
I've read it once, but would really like to buy it.
Halsten
Fluks, H.W.
Flaming
Message 118 -
2001-02-12 at 11:08:34
With all the people discussing what I should or should not have said, things
become quite complicated. In everyone's posting, there are many things I
agree with. And also in every mail is at least one thing I disagree with.
As Dani?l wrote (more or less 8-), everyone wants to have the final word.
That includes me, so I'll give it a try:
Teemu (welcome, and thanks for your introducktion) wrote to someone:
> And what comes to the understandability of mails I had no
> problem reading Kenneth's mail even though my own english
> is not all that wonderful. So
> I don't understand how could you have a problem with it?
*My* problem was that the writer clearly did no effort to write readable
English. Sure, with some extra effort you can read what he means. But I
think that extra effort should have come from the writer. I *know* he is a
native English-speaker (we makes the mistakes that only native
English-speakers would make). I'm not complaining about the English of our
Italian, Finnish, or South-American members. I know they put a lot of effort
in writing their messages.
Per-Erik wrote:
> There was nothing wrong with the attitude in Kenneth's
> first message to this list.
Right, it was his *second* mail that annoyed me.
> If you think a guy is well-dressed you say so, and if
> you dislike his taste in clothes you keep quiet.
I could have easily ignored his clothes. But we were *invited* for a dress
show. To visit a place and enjoy the beautiful clothes. When I saw that the
show wasn't even ready for a "dress rehearsal" yet, I felt the need to warn
the List.
To summarise my motives: there were 3 things that made me write my message:
1. The annoying tone of Kenneth's second message;
2. The apparent disinterest in writing messages in a way that people can
read them easily;
3. The website that was in a stadium that you could hardly call it a website
yet.
As I wrote before, point 3 has improved a lot. Also, I understand that
Kenneth now uses a spell checker (!) to improve on point 2. Re-reading the
message before sending it would be even better.
Now all we need is an improvement on point 1! 8-)
--Harry.
become quite complicated. In everyone's posting, there are many things I
agree with. And also in every mail is at least one thing I disagree with.
As Dani?l wrote (more or less 8-), everyone wants to have the final word.
That includes me, so I'll give it a try:
Teemu (welcome, and thanks for your introducktion) wrote to someone:
> And what comes to the understandability of mails I had no
> problem reading Kenneth's mail even though my own english
> is not all that wonderful. So
> I don't understand how could you have a problem with it?
*My* problem was that the writer clearly did no effort to write readable
English. Sure, with some extra effort you can read what he means. But I
think that extra effort should have come from the writer. I *know* he is a
native English-speaker (we makes the mistakes that only native
English-speakers would make). I'm not complaining about the English of our
Italian, Finnish, or South-American members. I know they put a lot of effort
in writing their messages.
Per-Erik wrote:
> There was nothing wrong with the attitude in Kenneth's
> first message to this list.
Right, it was his *second* mail that annoyed me.
> If you think a guy is well-dressed you say so, and if
> you dislike his taste in clothes you keep quiet.
I could have easily ignored his clothes. But we were *invited* for a dress
show. To visit a place and enjoy the beautiful clothes. When I saw that the
show wasn't even ready for a "dress rehearsal" yet, I felt the need to warn
the List.
To summarise my motives: there were 3 things that made me write my message:
1. The annoying tone of Kenneth's second message;
2. The apparent disinterest in writing messages in a way that people can
read them easily;
3. The website that was in a stadium that you could hardly call it a website
yet.
As I wrote before, point 3 has improved a lot. Also, I understand that
Kenneth now uses a spell checker (!) to improve on point 2. Re-reading the
message before sending it would be even better.
Now all we need is an improvement on point 1! 8-)
--Harry.
Kriton Kyrimis
My beloved Euro
Message 119 -
2001-02-12 at 12:13:26
I happened to watch part of the Greek version of "who wants to be a
millionaire" the other day, and one of the first, easy questions was
"what is the name of uncle Scrooge's first coin", with one of the
(obviously wrong) alternative answers being "his beloved Euro"!
I suspect that in the US this would have been one of the advanced,
impossible-to-answer questions. :(
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Excuse me, yes, hello. I'm a stranger to these parts and I was wondering if
you could perhaps remind me of the name of the nearest star."
-----
millionaire" the other day, and one of the first, easy questions was
"what is the name of uncle Scrooge's first coin", with one of the
(obviously wrong) alternative answers being "his beloved Euro"!
I suspect that in the US this would have been one of the advanced,
impossible-to-answer questions. :(
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Excuse me, yes, hello. I'm a stranger to these parts and I was wondering if
you could perhaps remind me of the name of the nearest star."
-----
Thierry Fernand
Renato Canini
Message 120 -
2001-02-12 at 13:58:47
I have now added some of Canini's drawings to the Brazilian History pages:
http://mailotron.forez.com/alfredsirven/canini.php3
This shows samples of the great Master of Brazilian Disney comics.
Favio
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http://mailotron.forez.com/alfredsirven/canini.php3
This shows samples of the great Master of Brazilian Disney comics.
Favio
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