From: "qwerty asdfg" <jlbovet at hotmail.com>
>>>So I can't find the reference for the first biggest frog: is it a
reference
to a Bark's story ?
(Thanks to Harry for saving me a lot of typing!)
>>>Thanks for the last chapter of the LoS. That's a great strory. I have
see
a small "Bug" in this story: At page 3, panel 3 Teddy has a white jacket
with a POCKET . This pocket appear only once.
So what is append: is it a magic pocket or a mistake
(sigh) No, you have a MAGIC copy of PICSOU! That pocket only appears in
YOUR copy!
Ah... I see what you mean. The breast hanky-pocket. I had that penciled
throughout the story and later decided to not bother with it. But I had not
decided that when I inked that one panel. Yep, that's a goof!
The reason I can see this is that my copies of PICSOU arrived yesterday.
Wow! This is probably the NICEST presentation of one of my stories I've
ever seen! That's the best coloring job that I think I've ever enjoyed on
one of my stories -- I hope any other publishers who decide to use this
story can obtain that coloring! And there are so many other flattering
aspects of the issue -- they use my pin-up on the double-cover (it appears
as a pseudo-front cover on the back so that the magazine can be displayed
two different ways on a newsstand), and lots of interior stuff like an
overview of the "Lo$" with illustrations and covers from around the world
and texts. And there's even a presentation of the portion of the
story-board script I rewrote because I decided against having the villain
buried alive to die a horrible lingering death... but here's that version
of the original story published also! Ha! And they print the pin-up that
was supposed to appear in the previous issue (with Barks' "Mystery of the
Swamp") as a centerfold poster.
I sure am proud of this issue of PICSOU -- but a warning to other PICSOU
subscribers who like my pin-ups... there won't be anymore for at least a
few months. I have lost contact with the editor. He recently took over the
editorship of LE JOURNAL DE MICKY due to how well he had done improving the
sales of PICSOU, and I assume he's inundated with work. It might be a while
before we get back up to speed.
From: "David" <daveheart at optushome.com.au>
>>>So I would like to ask Don what have been the new additions to the
original
12 chapters?
"The Vigilante of Pizen Bluff" 6B
"The Cowboy Captain of the Cutty Sark" 3B
"The Sharpie of the Culebra Cut" 10B
>>>and also....Are the 2 stories "Hearts Of The Yukon" and "Of Ducks, Dimes
And
Destinies" considered in your eyes, part of the LO$ saga?
Yes and no. They were originally not done as part of the series, but I now
am agreeable to anyone who likes to list them that way, they are *very*
closely related. But some publishers like to say that "Last Sled to Dawson"
and even "The Dutchman's Secret" are part of the series, and this baffles
me totally, especially the latter -- the flashbacks in that story have
nothing to do with $crooge!
From: "Gary Pantzer" <gpantzer at ny.tds.net>
>>>Don, might you consider using Ebay as a marketing and sales tool
I wish you would also consider this for your 2 HC books being
released soon.
I am not directly involved in the production and marketing of these books,
though I certainly help the publishers in any way they request. I'm sure
they plan to find a way to market these books so everyone who wants one can
buy a set, and surely that will include the Internet.
Author
Topic: 200102
(245 messages)
Don Rosa
Digest #408
Message 136 -
2001-02-13 at 16:22:13
Eric Chun
The second-biggest frog
Message 137 -
2001-02-13 at 22:30:53
Hi Harry,
>The gags are not for everyone, just the
>1 or 2 people on earth who spot it.
I guess I'm the 2nd person. (I have 7
Get Smart paperback books on my desk.)
Eric
:)
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>The gags are not for everyone, just the
>1 or 2 people on earth who spot it.
I guess I'm the 2nd person. (I have 7
Get Smart paperback books on my desk.)
Eric
:)
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Donald Markstein
Don Markstein's Toonopedia(tm)
Message 138 -
2001-02-14 at 02:02:24
I hate to disappear for months and return only when I've got something to promote, but -- well, I'm doing it anyway.
A project I've been working on for over a year has finally gone public. Don Markstein's Toonopedia(tm) is now open, with over 300 articles covering all areas of the U.S. comics and animation scene. You'll find it at http://www.toonopedia.com
One little part of it that I'm especially promoting is "Today in Toons". Every day's an anniversary, and this is where you go to find out what today is the anniversary of. That one's at http://www.toonopedia.com/today.htm
Disney articles in it include (but are not limited to) Ludwig von Drake (http://www.toonopedia.com/vondrake.htm), Li'l Bad Wolf (http://www.toonopedia.com/lilbad.htm), Bucky Bug (http://www.toonopedia.com/buckybug.htm), Silly Symphonies (http://www.toonopedia.com/sillysym.htm) and Jiminy Cricket (http://www.toonopedia.com/jiminy.htm).
Oh yeah. Donald, Mickey, Goofy and Pluto are there too.
Go over and take a look. Browse around. Read up on toons you never heard of. Link to it. Run barefoot through it and feel the li'l kilobytes crinkle between your toes. Enjoy!
Quack, Don
A project I've been working on for over a year has finally gone public. Don Markstein's Toonopedia(tm) is now open, with over 300 articles covering all areas of the U.S. comics and animation scene. You'll find it at http://www.toonopedia.com
One little part of it that I'm especially promoting is "Today in Toons". Every day's an anniversary, and this is where you go to find out what today is the anniversary of. That one's at http://www.toonopedia.com/today.htm
Disney articles in it include (but are not limited to) Ludwig von Drake (http://www.toonopedia.com/vondrake.htm), Li'l Bad Wolf (http://www.toonopedia.com/lilbad.htm), Bucky Bug (http://www.toonopedia.com/buckybug.htm), Silly Symphonies (http://www.toonopedia.com/sillysym.htm) and Jiminy Cricket (http://www.toonopedia.com/jiminy.htm).
Oh yeah. Donald, Mickey, Goofy and Pluto are there too.
Go over and take a look. Browse around. Read up on toons you never heard of. Link to it. Run barefoot through it and feel the li'l kilobytes crinkle between your toes. Enjoy!
Quack, Don
Frank Stajano
The second-biggest frog
Message 139 -
2001-02-14 at 03:54:16
At 2001-02-13 13:44 +0100, Bror.Hellman at partena.se wrote:
>But I didn't get that in-joke.. *grmrbl* *rogntudjuu*
ROFL! ;-)))
Where did you learn the last word above? Franquin's Gaston perhaps? Do you
know what it means?
Frank (filologo disneyano) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
>But I didn't get that in-joke.. *grmrbl* *rogntudjuu*
ROFL! ;-)))
Where did you learn the last word above? Franquin's Gaston perhaps? Do you
know what it means?
Frank (filologo disneyano) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
RMorris306
Websites, Frogs et al
Message 140 -
2001-02-14 at 04:51:56
I confess I find myself largely in agreement with Don about some of the
truly bad writing I've seen around the Internet. I regret that I won't have
the chance to read most of his stories unless they're translated, since I'm
illiterate in everything but English...but some people on various boards
especially (Americans, not those for whom English is a second language) seem
to be illiterate in everything INCLUDING English...
I was also a big GET SMART fan, so I guessed the derivation of Don's
line...though it also occurred to me that he may have been referring to a
Barks story. Wasn't there one in the early '60's where Gyro invented a
machine that could create what we now know as virtual reality...and Donald
used it to show how fascinating a world just like their own, except that
everything (except the ducks) was ten, then a hundred, then a thousand times
larger, could be. I'm almost positive they saw some giant (comparatively)
frogs during that story...
Rich
truly bad writing I've seen around the Internet. I regret that I won't have
the chance to read most of his stories unless they're translated, since I'm
illiterate in everything but English...but some people on various boards
especially (Americans, not those for whom English is a second language) seem
to be illiterate in everything INCLUDING English...
I was also a big GET SMART fan, so I guessed the derivation of Don's
line...though it also occurred to me that he may have been referring to a
Barks story. Wasn't there one in the early '60's where Gyro invented a
machine that could create what we now know as virtual reality...and Donald
used it to show how fascinating a world just like their own, except that
everything (except the ducks) was ten, then a hundred, then a thousand times
larger, could be. I'm almost positive they saw some giant (comparatively)
frogs during that story...
Rich
François Willot
The second-biggest frog
Message 141 -
2001-02-14 at 15:16:34
>From: Frank Stajano <fstajano at uk.research.att.com>
> At 2001-02-13 13:44 +0100, Bror.Hellman at partena.se wrote:
> >But I didn't get that in-joke.. *grmrbl* *rogntudjuu*
> Where did you learn the last word above? Franquin's Gaston perhaps? Do you
> know what it means?
Indeed Gaston (ask our Italian Gaston expert Eta Beta about it). The later
means "Nom de dieu" = "for God's sake" !
Francois
> At 2001-02-13 13:44 +0100, Bror.Hellman at partena.se wrote:
> >But I didn't get that in-joke.. *grmrbl* *rogntudjuu*
> Where did you learn the last word above? Franquin's Gaston perhaps? Do you
> know what it means?
Indeed Gaston (ask our Italian Gaston expert Eta Beta about it). The later
means "Nom de dieu" = "for God's sake" !
Francois
Nils Lid Hjort
Re the two new Don Rosa hardcover books
Message 142 -
2001-02-14 at 18:05:15
Gary Pantzer worriedly asks Don Rosa:
<<I wish you would also consider this [selling via eBay] for
your 2 HC books ["Captain Kentucky" and "The Pertwillaby Papers"]
being released soon. Unless we can order directly,
I doubt they will be available easily in the USA. We would have
to prevail on our friends in Europe to purchase copies and ship
these for us.>>
1. These books have been produced with the gracious and patient
help of the author and artist himself, Don Rosa.
However, Don is not the *seller* of the books. (He has other
work to do.) The publishing company, "Gazette Bok" of the firm
Gazette, Oslo, is in the process of making agreements with
distributors, in particular with a certain bookstore in Oslo.
2. There will [also] be agreements with some specialist shops outside
Norway.
3. It will be possible to order copies of CK and PP using the internet,
whether one lives in New York, Thule, Vladivostok or Harare.
Details will be made known later regarding these points.
It may also interest Norwegian readers that there will be an
interview with the editor of the books (which happens to be me),
along with his professor colleague ?ystein S?rensen, in
Aftenposten's "Oslo-puls" (?) on Friday. The two books will be
seen in photos and scans.
Nils Lid Hjort
<<I wish you would also consider this [selling via eBay] for
your 2 HC books ["Captain Kentucky" and "The Pertwillaby Papers"]
being released soon. Unless we can order directly,
I doubt they will be available easily in the USA. We would have
to prevail on our friends in Europe to purchase copies and ship
these for us.>>
1. These books have been produced with the gracious and patient
help of the author and artist himself, Don Rosa.
However, Don is not the *seller* of the books. (He has other
work to do.) The publishing company, "Gazette Bok" of the firm
Gazette, Oslo, is in the process of making agreements with
distributors, in particular with a certain bookstore in Oslo.
2. There will [also] be agreements with some specialist shops outside
Norway.
3. It will be possible to order copies of CK and PP using the internet,
whether one lives in New York, Thule, Vladivostok or Harare.
Details will be made known later regarding these points.
It may also interest Norwegian readers that there will be an
interview with the editor of the books (which happens to be me),
along with his professor colleague ?ystein S?rensen, in
Aftenposten's "Oslo-puls" (?) on Friday. The two books will be
seen in photos and scans.
Nils Lid Hjort
Nils Lid Hjort
Mathematics in Duckburg [again]
Message 143 -
2001-02-14 at 18:11:05
Another "public popular science lecture", on the theme
"Mathematics in Duckburg",
will be given by Nils Lid Hjort, Friday Feb 16, 15:15 - 16:00,
Auditorium 1, Vilhelm Bjerknes building, University of Oslo.
The occasion is "Bj?rnegildet", a week of various festivities
organised by the Mathematical Sciences students here.
(This forum has earlier had the pleasure of having both Carl Barks
and Don Rosa as featured guests.)
Nils Lid Hjort
"Mathematics in Duckburg",
will be given by Nils Lid Hjort, Friday Feb 16, 15:15 - 16:00,
Auditorium 1, Vilhelm Bjerknes building, University of Oslo.
The occasion is "Bj?rnegildet", a week of various festivities
organised by the Mathematical Sciences students here.
(This forum has earlier had the pleasure of having both Carl Barks
and Don Rosa as featured guests.)
Nils Lid Hjort
Mister Fiskin
DCML digest, Vol 1 #409 - 10 msgs
Message 144 -
2001-02-14 at 18:31:00
For an American --or anyone else for that matter-- Atalanta is a
character from Greek myth. Like her protectress Artemis (the Roman
Diana), she was a virgin and hunter. She was also the Flo-Jo (Olympian
Florence Griffiths-Joyner) of her day, the fastest woman around. In
fact, she bet her virginity that no man could ever catch her. The side
bet was if the suitor failed, she poked him with her spear when she
caught him.
Also worth noting, the French film, L'Atalante, a small masterpiece by
Jean Vigo. The film has little to do with the myth, but it takes place
on and off a barge called l'Atalante. Like the Odyssey for Joyce's
Ulysses, the myth is a sort of touchstone for story points. (If you want
to bother!)
Y'a bon,
JAFisk
> From: Frank Stajano <fstajano at uk.research.att.com>
> By the way, what is Atalanta for an American? To me it's the name of
> an
> Italian football team I heard when I was in primary school -- no idea
> if
> they still exist. However I suspect it might be something different in
> the
> context of the Barks book.
>
character from Greek myth. Like her protectress Artemis (the Roman
Diana), she was a virgin and hunter. She was also the Flo-Jo (Olympian
Florence Griffiths-Joyner) of her day, the fastest woman around. In
fact, she bet her virginity that no man could ever catch her. The side
bet was if the suitor failed, she poked him with her spear when she
caught him.
Also worth noting, the French film, L'Atalante, a small masterpiece by
Jean Vigo. The film has little to do with the myth, but it takes place
on and off a barge called l'Atalante. Like the Odyssey for Joyce's
Ulysses, the myth is a sort of touchstone for story points. (If you want
to bother!)
Y'a bon,
JAFisk
> From: Frank Stajano <fstajano at uk.research.att.com>
> By the way, what is Atalanta for an American? To me it's the name of
> an
> Italian football team I heard when I was in primary school -- no idea
> if
> they still exist. However I suspect it might be something different in
> the
> context of the Barks book.
>
Vic Pratt
Fleetway comics
Message 145 -
2001-02-14 at 19:31:00
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> 1. SV: The second-biggest frog
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> 2. VB: SV: Aku Ankka postage stamps
> (Bror.Hellman at partena.se)
> 3. Re: digest #408 (Don Rosa)
> 4. Non-English Rosa Comics Wanted (Steve @ Atomik
> Pop!)
> 5. Re: The second-biggest frog (Eric Chun)
> 6. Don Markstein's Toonopedia(tm) (Donald
> Markstein)
> 7. Re: Barrier book (Frank Stajano)
> 8. Websites, Frogs et al (RMorris306 at aol.com)
> 9. RE: The second-biggest frog (Fabio Blanco)
> 10. Re: SV: The second-biggest frog (Frank
> Stajano)
>
> ATTACHMENT part 3.1 message/rfc822
> From: Bror.Hellman at partena.se
> To: dcomics at stp.ling.uu.se
> Subject: SV: The second-biggest frog
> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:44:39 +0100
>
> > The gags are not for everyone, just the 1 or 2
> people on earth who spot
> > it. That makes it worthwhile. Even more worthwhile
> than if everyone caught
> it.
>
>
> Darn! I should have spotted that joke myself.. but
> i didn't even THINK of
> "Get Smart".
> the series aired here in Scandinavia too, and in
> Sweden it even ran om one
> commercial
> channel in the 1990's... And guess... I watched
> it.. ;-) But I didn't get
> that
> in-joke.. *grmrbl* *rogntudjuu*
>
>
>
>
> // Steamboat Willie
>
> ATTACHMENT part 3.2 message/rfc822
> From: Bror.Hellman at partena.se
> To: dcomics at stp.ling.uu.se
> Subject: VB: SV: Aku Ankka postage stamps
> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:45:55 +0100
>
>
> This was from Timo and was supposed to go to the
> list,
> he asked me to forward it:
>
> ---
>
>
> > > All they say in Finnish Post?s website is
> > > that they got the permission, and that most of
> the stamps
> >published
> > > around the world are illegal (?).
> >Well, most Issued stamps were indeed LEGAL.
>
> I meant that they are unlicensed. Done without
> permission. Certainly they
> are valid as postage stamps.
>
> >I don't know if they pay royalties for the stamps
> to Disney
> >or not. Would be interesting to know.
>
> I think they are. Designers of the stamp gets money,
> Disney gets money, but
> not Rosa.
>
> Timo Ronkainen
>
>
> .................................
> "Rumble on, buxom bumble bee!
> Go sit on cowslip - far from me!"
>
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> timoro at sunpoint.net
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> ATTACHMENT part 3.3 message/rfc822
> From: "Don Rosa" <donrosa at iglou.com>
> To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
> Subject: Re: digest #408
> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:22:13 -0500
>
> From: "qwerty asdfg" <jlbovet at hotmail.com>
> >>>So I can't find the reference for the first
> biggest frog: is it a
> reference
> to a Bark's story ?
>
> (Thanks to Harry for saving me a lot of typing!)
>
> >>>Thanks for the last chapter of the LoS. That's a
> great strory. I have
> see
> a small "Bug" in this story: At page 3, panel 3
> Teddy has a white jacket
> with a POCKET . This pocket appear only once.
> So what is append: is it a magic pocket or a mistake
>
> (sigh) No, you have a MAGIC copy of PICSOU! That
> pocket only appears in
> YOUR copy!
> Ah... I see what you mean. The breast hanky-pocket.
> I had that penciled
> throughout the story and later decided to not bother
> with it. But I had not
> decided that when I inked that one panel. Yep,
> that's a goof!
> The reason I can see this is that my copies of
> PICSOU arrived yesterday.
> Wow! This is probably the NICEST presentation of one
> of my stories I've
> ever seen! That's the best coloring job that I think
> I've ever enjoyed on
> one of my stories -- I hope any other publishers who
> decide to use this
> story can obtain that coloring! And there are so
> many other flattering
> aspects of the issue -- they use my pin-up on the
> double-cover (it appears
> as a pseudo-front cover on the back so that the
> magazine can be displayed
> two different ways on a newsstand), and lots of
> interior stuff like an
> overview of the "Lo$" with illustrations and covers
> from around the world
> and texts. And there's even a presentation of the
> portion of the
> story-board script I rewrote because I decided
> against having the villain
> buried alive to die a horrible lingering death...
> but here's that version
> of the original story published also! Ha! And they
> print the pin-up that
> was supposed to appear in the previous issue (with
> Barks' "Mystery of the
> Swamp") as a centerfold poster.
> I sure am proud of this issue of PICSOU -- but a
> warning to other PICSOU
> subscribers who like my pin-ups... there won't be
> anymore for at least a
> few months. I have lost contact with the editor. He
> recently took over the
> editorship of LE JOURNAL DE MICKY due to how well he
> had done improving the
> sales of PICSOU, and I assume he's inundated with
> work. It might be a while
> before we get back up to speed.
>
> From: "David" <daveheart at optushome.com.au>
> >>>So I would like to ask Don what have been the new
> additions to the
> original
> 12 chapters?
>
> "The Vigilante of Pizen Bluff" 6B
> "The Cowboy Captain of the Cutty Sark" 3B
> "The Sharpie of the Culebra Cut" 10B
>
> >>>and also....Are the 2 stories "Hearts Of The
> Yukon" and "Of Ducks, Dimes
> And
> Destinies" considered in your eyes, part of the LO$
> saga?
>
> Yes and no. They were originally not done as part of
> the series, but I now
> am agreeable to anyone who likes to list them that
> way, they are *very*
> closely related. But some publishers like to say
> that "Last Sled to Dawson"
> and even "The Dutchman's Secret" are part of the
> series, and this baffles
> me totally, especially the latter -- the flashbacks
> in that story have
> nothing to do with $crooge!
>
> From: "Gary Pantzer" <gpantzer at ny.tds.net>
> >>>Don, might you consider using Ebay as a marketing
> and sales tool
> I wish you would also consider this for your 2 HC
> books being
> released soon.
>
> I am not directly involved in the production and
> marketing of these books,
> though I certainly help the publishers in any way
> they request. I'm sure
> they plan to find a way to market these books so
> everyone who wants one can
> buy a set, and surely that will include the
> Internet.
>
>
>
> ATTACHMENT part 3.4 message/rfc822
> From: "Steve @ Atomik Pop!" <srichter at atomikpop.com>
> To: "'Disney Comics Mailing List'"
> <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
> Subject: Non-English Rosa Comics Wanted
> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:15:47 -0600
>
> Can anybody give me a reliable source (for example,
> a comics shop that does
> mail order) for foreign (non-English) editions of
> Don Rosa's Disney
> stories?
>
> I've been told Fleetway (England) prints Rosa's
> stories in English; is this
> correct?
>
> Rosa's new duck stories are not published in the
> USA.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
> Norman OK (USA)
> steve at atomikpop.com
>
> ATTACHMENT part 3.5 message/rfc822
> From: "Eric Chun" <ericchun at hotmail.com>
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Subject: Re: The second-biggest frog
> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:30:53
>
> Hi Harry,
>
> >The gags are not for everyone, just the
> >1 or 2 people on earth who spot it.
>
> I guess I'm the 2nd person. (I have 7
> Get Smart paperback books on my desk.)
>
> Eric
> :)
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 3.6 message/rfc822
> Reply-to: "Donald Markstein"
> <dmarkstein at earthlink.net>
> From: "Donald Markstein" <dmarkstein at earthlink.net>
> To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
> Subject: Don Markstein's Toonopedia(tm)
> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:02:24 -0700
>
> I hate to disappear for months and return only when
> I've got something to promote, but -- well, I'm
> doing it anyway.
>
> A project I've been working on for over a year has
> finally gone public. Don Markstein's Toonopedia(tm)
> is now open, with over 300 articles covering all
> areas of the U.S. comics and animation scene. You'll
> find it at http://www.toonopedia.com
>
> One little part of it that I'm especially promoting
> is "Today in Toons". Every day's an anniversary, and
> this is where you go to find out what today is the
> anniversary of. That one's at
> http://www.toonopedia.com/today.htm
>
> Disney articles in it include (but are not limited
> to) Ludwig von Drake
> (http://www.toonopedia.com/vondrake.htm), Li'l Bad
> Wolf (http://www.toonopedia.com/lilbad.htm), Bucky
> Bug (http://www.toonopedia.com/buckybug.htm), Silly
> Symphonies (http://www.toonopedia.com/sillysym.htm)
> and Jiminy Cricket
> (http://www.toonopedia.com/jiminy.htm).
>
> Oh yeah. Donald, Mickey, Goofy and Pluto are there
> too.
>
> Go over and take a look. Browse around. Read up on
> toons you never heard of. Link to it. Run barefoot
> through it and feel the li'l kilobytes crinkle
> between your toes. Enjoy!
>
> Quack, Don
>
> ATTACHMENT part 3.7 message/rfc822
> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:19:04 +0900
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> From: Frank Stajano <fstajano at uk.research.att.com>
> Subject: Re: Barrier book
>
> At 2001-02-11 09:21 -0500, Jmbarrier at aol.com wrote:
> >and typographical errors (for instance, the printer
> insisted on spelling
> >"Atalanta" as "Atlanta" on page 199, even though
> the spelling was correct in
> >my manuscript).
>
>
> A textbook example of the "lectio facilior"
> phenomenon at which Marco was
> hinting recently. Leonardo Gori and I had the same
> problem with the Moook
> of our Gottfredson book, which the printers insisted
> on "correcting" to
> Mook. We managed to counter-correct some of the
> occurrences, but not all.
>
> By the way, what is Atalanta for an American? To me
> it's the name of an
> Italian football team I heard when I was in primary
> school -- no idea if
> they still exist. However I suspect it might be
> something different in the
> context of the Barks book.
>
> Frank (filologo disneyano)
> http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
>
>
> ATTACHMENT part 3.8 message/rfc822
> From: RMorris306 at aol.com
> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:51:56 EST
> Subject: Websites, Frogs et al
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>
> I confess I find myself largely in agreement
> with Don about some of the
> truly bad writing I've seen around the Internet. I
> regret that I won't have
> the chance to read most of his stories unless
> they're translated, since I'm
> illiterate in everything but English...but some
> people on various boards
> especially (Americans, not those for whom English is
> a second language) seem
> to be illiterate in everything INCLUDING English...
>
> I was also a big GET SMART fan, so I guessed the
> derivation of Don's
> line...though it also occurred to me that he may
> have been referring to a
> Barks story. Wasn't there one in the early '60's
> where Gyro invented a
> machine that could create what we now know as
> virtual reality...and Donald
> used it to show how fascinating a world just like
> their own, except that
> everything (except the ducks) was ten, then a
> hundred, then a thousand times
> larger, could be. I'm almost positive they saw some
> giant (comparatively)
> frogs during that story...
>
>
> Rich
>
> ATTACHMENT part 3.9 message/rfc822
> Reply-to: "Fabio Blanco" <longtom at oeste.com.ar>
> From: "Fabio Blanco" <longtom at oeste.com.ar>
> To: "DCML" <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
> Subject: RE: The second-biggest frog
> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:19:03 -0300
>
> I keep thinking that he is talking about Reptilicus,
> 99... <G>
>
> Fabio Blanco
>
>
> > But while I was saying that, the words were
> >appearing on the monitor, a response from the
> chat-caller, saying "I
> >thought maybe it was a Maxwell Smart joke." And
> that was the single
> >happiest instant of my whole trip to Finland -- I
> exploded! To think
> >someone waaaay over in Finland in 1999 would spot a
> personal in-joke I made
> >to my own TV viewing of 35 years earlier!!! THIS is
> why I'll never stop
> >putting in obscure in-gags that practically no one
> will catch. The gags are
> >not for everyone, just the 1 or 2 people on earth
> who spot it. That makes
> >it worthwhile. Even more worthwhile than if
> everyone caught it.
>
>
>
> ATTACHMENT part 3.10 message/rfc822
> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:54:16 +0900
> To: Bror.Hellman at partena.se, dcomics at stp.ling.uu.se
> From: Frank Stajano <fstajano at uk.research.att.com>
> Subject: Re: SV: The second-biggest frog
>
> At 2001-02-13 13:44 +0100, Bror.Hellman at partena.se
> wrote:
> >But I didn't get that in-joke.. *grmrbl*
> *rogntudjuu*
>
> ROFL! ;-)))
> Where did you learn the last word above? Franquin's
> Gaston perhaps? Do you
> know what it means?
>
>
>
> Frank (filologo disneyano)
> http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
>
>
>
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> 1. SV: The second-biggest frog
> (Bror.Hellman at partena.se)
> 2. VB: SV: Aku Ankka postage stamps
> (Bror.Hellman at partena.se)
> 3. Re: digest #408 (Don Rosa)
> 4. Non-English Rosa Comics Wanted (Steve @ Atomik
> Pop!)
> 5. Re: The second-biggest frog (Eric Chun)
> 6. Don Markstein's Toonopedia(tm) (Donald
> Markstein)
> 7. Re: Barrier book (Frank Stajano)
> 8. Websites, Frogs et al (RMorris306 at aol.com)
> 9. RE: The second-biggest frog (Fabio Blanco)
> 10. Re: SV: The second-biggest frog (Frank
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> ATTACHMENT part 3.1 message/rfc822
> From: Bror.Hellman at partena.se
> To: dcomics at stp.ling.uu.se
> Subject: SV: The second-biggest frog
> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:44:39 +0100
>
> > The gags are not for everyone, just the 1 or 2
> people on earth who spot
> > it. That makes it worthwhile. Even more worthwhile
> than if everyone caught
> it.
>
>
> Darn! I should have spotted that joke myself.. but
> i didn't even THINK of
> "Get Smart".
> the series aired here in Scandinavia too, and in
> Sweden it even ran om one
> commercial
> channel in the 1990's... And guess... I watched
> it.. ;-) But I didn't get
> that
> in-joke.. *grmrbl* *rogntudjuu*
>
>
>
>
> // Steamboat Willie
>
> ATTACHMENT part 3.2 message/rfc822
> From: Bror.Hellman at partena.se
> To: dcomics at stp.ling.uu.se
> Subject: VB: SV: Aku Ankka postage stamps
> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:45:55 +0100
>
>
> This was from Timo and was supposed to go to the
> list,
> he asked me to forward it:
>
> ---
>
>
> > > All they say in Finnish Post?s website is
> > > that they got the permission, and that most of
> the stamps
> >published
> > > around the world are illegal (?).
> >Well, most Issued stamps were indeed LEGAL.
>
> I meant that they are unlicensed. Done without
> permission. Certainly they
> are valid as postage stamps.
>
> >I don't know if they pay royalties for the stamps
> to Disney
> >or not. Would be interesting to know.
>
> I think they are. Designers of the stamp gets money,
> Disney gets money, but
> not Rosa.
>
> Timo Ronkainen
>
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 3.3 message/rfc822
> From: "Don Rosa" <donrosa at iglou.com>
> To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
> Subject: Re: digest #408
> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:22:13 -0500
>
> From: "qwerty asdfg" <jlbovet at hotmail.com>
> >>>So I can't find the reference for the first
> biggest frog: is it a
> reference
> to a Bark's story ?
>
> (Thanks to Harry for saving me a lot of typing!)
>
> >>>Thanks for the last chapter of the LoS. That's a
> great strory. I have
> see
> a small "Bug" in this story: At page 3, panel 3
> Teddy has a white jacket
> with a POCKET . This pocket appear only once.
> So what is append: is it a magic pocket or a mistake
>
> (sigh) No, you have a MAGIC copy of PICSOU! That
> pocket only appears in
> YOUR copy!
> Ah... I see what you mean. The breast hanky-pocket.
> I had that penciled
> throughout the story and later decided to not bother
> with it. But I had not
> decided that when I inked that one panel. Yep,
> that's a goof!
> The reason I can see this is that my copies of
> PICSOU arrived yesterday.
> Wow! This is probably the NICEST presentation of one
> of my stories I've
> ever seen! That's the best coloring job that I think
> I've ever enjoyed on
> one of my stories -- I hope any other publishers who
> decide to use this
> story can obtain that coloring! And there are so
> many other flattering
> aspects of the issue -- they use my pin-up on the
> double-cover (it appears
> as a pseudo-front cover on the back so that the
> magazine can be displayed
> two different ways on a newsstand), and lots of
> interior stuff like an
> overview of the "Lo$" with illustrations and covers
> from around the world
> and texts. And there's even a presentation of the
> portion of the
> story-board script I rewrote because I decided
> against having the villain
> buried alive to die a horrible lingering death...
> but here's that version
> of the original story published also! Ha! And they
> print the pin-up that
> was supposed to appear in the previous issue (with
> Barks' "Mystery of the
> Swamp") as a centerfold poster.
> I sure am proud of this issue of PICSOU -- but a
> warning to other PICSOU
> subscribers who like my pin-ups... there won't be
> anymore for at least a
> few months. I have lost contact with the editor. He
> recently took over the
> editorship of LE JOURNAL DE MICKY due to how well he
> had done improving the
> sales of PICSOU, and I assume he's inundated with
> work. It might be a while
> before we get back up to speed.
>
> From: "David" <daveheart at optushome.com.au>
> >>>So I would like to ask Don what have been the new
> additions to the
> original
> 12 chapters?
>
> "The Vigilante of Pizen Bluff" 6B
> "The Cowboy Captain of the Cutty Sark" 3B
> "The Sharpie of the Culebra Cut" 10B
>
> >>>and also....Are the 2 stories "Hearts Of The
> Yukon" and "Of Ducks, Dimes
> And
> Destinies" considered in your eyes, part of the LO$
> saga?
>
> Yes and no. They were originally not done as part of
> the series, but I now
> am agreeable to anyone who likes to list them that
> way, they are *very*
> closely related. But some publishers like to say
> that "Last Sled to Dawson"
> and even "The Dutchman's Secret" are part of the
> series, and this baffles
> me totally, especially the latter -- the flashbacks
> in that story have
> nothing to do with $crooge!
>
> From: "Gary Pantzer" <gpantzer at ny.tds.net>
> >>>Don, might you consider using Ebay as a marketing
> and sales tool
> I wish you would also consider this for your 2 HC
> books being
> released soon.
>
> I am not directly involved in the production and
> marketing of these books,
> though I certainly help the publishers in any way
> they request. I'm sure
> they plan to find a way to market these books so
> everyone who wants one can
> buy a set, and surely that will include the
> Internet.
>
>
>
> ATTACHMENT part 3.4 message/rfc822
> From: "Steve @ Atomik Pop!" <srichter at atomikpop.com>
> To: "'Disney Comics Mailing List'"
> <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
> Subject: Non-English Rosa Comics Wanted
> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:15:47 -0600
>
> Can anybody give me a reliable source (for example,
> a comics shop that does
> mail order) for foreign (non-English) editions of
> Don Rosa's Disney
> stories?
>
> I've been told Fleetway (England) prints Rosa's
> stories in English; is this
> correct?
>
> Rosa's new duck stories are not published in the
> USA.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
> Norman OK (USA)
> steve at atomikpop.com
>
> ATTACHMENT part 3.5 message/rfc822
> From: "Eric Chun" <ericchun at hotmail.com>
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Subject: Re: The second-biggest frog
> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:30:53
>
> Hi Harry,
>
> >The gags are not for everyone, just the
> >1 or 2 people on earth who spot it.
>
> I guess I'm the 2nd person. (I have 7
> Get Smart paperback books on my desk.)
>
> Eric
> :)
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 3.6 message/rfc822
> Reply-to: "Donald Markstein"
> <dmarkstein at earthlink.net>
> From: "Donald Markstein" <dmarkstein at earthlink.net>
> To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
> Subject: Don Markstein's Toonopedia(tm)
> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:02:24 -0700
>
> I hate to disappear for months and return only when
> I've got something to promote, but -- well, I'm
> doing it anyway.
>
> A project I've been working on for over a year has
> finally gone public. Don Markstein's Toonopedia(tm)
> is now open, with over 300 articles covering all
> areas of the U.S. comics and animation scene. You'll
> find it at http://www.toonopedia.com
>
> One little part of it that I'm especially promoting
> is "Today in Toons". Every day's an anniversary, and
> this is where you go to find out what today is the
> anniversary of. That one's at
> http://www.toonopedia.com/today.htm
>
> Disney articles in it include (but are not limited
> to) Ludwig von Drake
> (http://www.toonopedia.com/vondrake.htm), Li'l Bad
> Wolf (http://www.toonopedia.com/lilbad.htm), Bucky
> Bug (http://www.toonopedia.com/buckybug.htm), Silly
> Symphonies (http://www.toonopedia.com/sillysym.htm)
> and Jiminy Cricket
> (http://www.toonopedia.com/jiminy.htm).
>
> Oh yeah. Donald, Mickey, Goofy and Pluto are there
> too.
>
> Go over and take a look. Browse around. Read up on
> toons you never heard of. Link to it. Run barefoot
> through it and feel the li'l kilobytes crinkle
> between your toes. Enjoy!
>
> Quack, Don
>
> ATTACHMENT part 3.7 message/rfc822
> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 22:19:04 +0900
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> From: Frank Stajano <fstajano at uk.research.att.com>
> Subject: Re: Barrier book
>
> At 2001-02-11 09:21 -0500, Jmbarrier at aol.com wrote:
> >and typographical errors (for instance, the printer
> insisted on spelling
> >"Atalanta" as "Atlanta" on page 199, even though
> the spelling was correct in
> >my manuscript).
>
>
> A textbook example of the "lectio facilior"
> phenomenon at which Marco was
> hinting recently. Leonardo Gori and I had the same
> problem with the Moook
> of our Gottfredson book, which the printers insisted
> on "correcting" to
> Mook. We managed to counter-correct some of the
> occurrences, but not all.
>
> By the way, what is Atalanta for an American? To me
> it's the name of an
> Italian football team I heard when I was in primary
> school -- no idea if
> they still exist. However I suspect it might be
> something different in the
> context of the Barks book.
>
> Frank (filologo disneyano)
> http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
>
>
> ATTACHMENT part 3.8 message/rfc822
> From: RMorris306 at aol.com
> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:51:56 EST
> Subject: Websites, Frogs et al
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>
> I confess I find myself largely in agreement
> with Don about some of the
> truly bad writing I've seen around the Internet. I
> regret that I won't have
> the chance to read most of his stories unless
> they're translated, since I'm
> illiterate in everything but English...but some
> people on various boards
> especially (Americans, not those for whom English is
> a second language) seem
> to be illiterate in everything INCLUDING English...
>
> I was also a big GET SMART fan, so I guessed the
> derivation of Don's
> line...though it also occurred to me that he may
> have been referring to a
> Barks story. Wasn't there one in the early '60's
> where Gyro invented a
> machine that could create what we now know as
> virtual reality...and Donald
> used it to show how fascinating a world just like
> their own, except that
> everything (except the ducks) was ten, then a
> hundred, then a thousand times
> larger, could be. I'm almost positive they saw some
> giant (comparatively)
> frogs during that story...
>
>
> Rich
>
> ATTACHMENT part 3.9 message/rfc822
> Reply-to: "Fabio Blanco" <longtom at oeste.com.ar>
> From: "Fabio Blanco" <longtom at oeste.com.ar>
> To: "DCML" <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
> Subject: RE: The second-biggest frog
> Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:19:03 -0300
>
> I keep thinking that he is talking about Reptilicus,
> 99... <G>
>
> Fabio Blanco
>
>
> > But while I was saying that, the words were
> >appearing on the monitor, a response from the
> chat-caller, saying "I
> >thought maybe it was a Maxwell Smart joke." And
> that was the single
> >happiest instant of my whole trip to Finland -- I
> exploded! To think
> >someone waaaay over in Finland in 1999 would spot a
> personal in-joke I made
> >to my own TV viewing of 35 years earlier!!! THIS is
> why I'll never stop
> >putting in obscure in-gags that practically no one
> will catch. The gags are
> >not for everyone, just the 1 or 2 people on earth
> who spot it. That makes
> >it worthwhile. Even more worthwhile than if
> everyone caught it.
>
>
>
> ATTACHMENT part 3.10 message/rfc822
> Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:54:16 +0900
> To: Bror.Hellman at partena.se, dcomics at stp.ling.uu.se
> From: Frank Stajano <fstajano at uk.research.att.com>
> Subject: Re: SV: The second-biggest frog
>
> At 2001-02-13 13:44 +0100, Bror.Hellman at partena.se
> wrote:
> >But I didn't get that in-joke.. *grmrbl*
> *rogntudjuu*
>
> ROFL! ;-)))
> Where did you learn the last word above? Franquin's
> Gaston perhaps? Do you
> know what it means?
>
>
>
> Frank (filologo disneyano)
> http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
>
>
>
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Message 146 -
2001-02-14 at 19:35:07
First: sorry, folks, I sent back the whole of the last
digest by accident. Sorry about that, Chief.
Second: what I meant to say was in reply to Steve:
there are no reprints of Disney material being
published here in the UK except for
over-priced glossy magazines that have very little in
the way of comics in them. I wish that Disney comics
were printed in English somewhere, either here or in
the States...
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digest by accident. Sorry about that, Chief.
Second: what I meant to say was in reply to Steve:
there are no reprints of Disney material being
published here in the UK except for
over-priced glossy magazines that have very little in
the way of comics in them. I wish that Disney comics
were printed in English somewhere, either here or in
the States...
VIC
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Thomas: UK?
Message 147 -
2001-02-14 at 19:55:29
Thomas:
Your e-mail address suggests that you are living in the UK.
Vic Pratt just wrote:
> there are no reprints of Disney material being
> published here in the UK except for
> over-priced glossy magazines that have very little in
> the way of comics in them.
And you wrote:
> I love Don Rosa's work and especially Barks'. I'm fond
> of Italian comics, Studio stories and others. I'm 25.
How did you get in touch with the Rosa/Barks comics and the Italian ones?
Just curious - when I was in London I found no Disney comics anywhere...
--Harry.
Your e-mail address suggests that you are living in the UK.
Vic Pratt just wrote:
> there are no reprints of Disney material being
> published here in the UK except for
> over-priced glossy magazines that have very little in
> the way of comics in them.
And you wrote:
> I love Don Rosa's work and especially Barks'. I'm fond
> of Italian comics, Studio stories and others. I'm 25.
How did you get in touch with the Rosa/Barks comics and the Italian ones?
Just curious - when I was in London I found no Disney comics anywhere...
--Harry.
Thomas Barry
Disney comics in UK
Message 148 -
2001-02-14 at 20:40:35
Hi Harry! Hi Vic!
Many foreign Disney comics (from Italy, France and
Germany) and some old British comics can be found at
the librairy
Smith Addison
107 Clapham Com W Side, SW4, London
That's where I bought most of my copies.
Thomas Barry
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Many foreign Disney comics (from Italy, France and
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the librairy
Smith Addison
107 Clapham Com W Side, SW4, London
That's where I bought most of my copies.
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Atlanta vs. Atalanta
Message 149 -
2001-02-14 at 22:57:26
Frank Stajano wrote:
> By the way, what is Atalanta for an American? To me it's
> the name of an Italian football team I heard when I was
> in primary school -- no idea if they still
Yes, sadly they are still around there! ;-)
Last sunday Lazio couldn't go further than a 0-0 against the
Bergamo team! :-(
BTW, to be on topic: is Barrier book reprinted? I looked for it
on Amazon few months ago, and it wasn't there (I don't recall if
it was out-of-stock or unknown...).
Since it seems to be the "Bible" for a duck fan, I'd like to buy
(and read) it.
- Paolo
--
http://members.xoom.it/inducks mailto:p.castagno at libero.it
bah!...
(Kali' in I TL 183-A)
> By the way, what is Atalanta for an American? To me it's
> the name of an Italian football team I heard when I was
> in primary school -- no idea if they still
Yes, sadly they are still around there! ;-)
Last sunday Lazio couldn't go further than a 0-0 against the
Bergamo team! :-(
BTW, to be on topic: is Barrier book reprinted? I looked for it
on Amazon few months ago, and it wasn't there (I don't recall if
it was out-of-stock or unknown...).
Since it seems to be the "Bible" for a duck fan, I'd like to buy
(and read) it.
- Paolo
--
http://members.xoom.it/inducks mailto:p.castagno at libero.it
bah!...
(Kali' in I TL 183-A)
Apostolis Trikourakis
Question about the history of Duckburg
Message 150 -
2001-02-15 at 00:49:22
Dear DCML friends
I have a tiny question:
Is Malcolm McDuck related with the history of
Duckburg? And if yes, how is he related?
I read that Malcolm sailed together with Sir Francis
Drake for the America land.
Best Wishes
Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens
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I have a tiny question:
Is Malcolm McDuck related with the history of
Duckburg? And if yes, how is he related?
I read that Malcolm sailed together with Sir Francis
Drake for the America land.
Best Wishes
Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens
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