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Fluks, H.W.
A website about the Dutch "Donald Duck". There is also a nice sample of
Carol Voges artwork. 8-)

http://www.lambiek.net/aanvang/1950donaldduck.htm

It's in the Dutch language only. But the pictures may be interesting for
non-Dutch too.

--Harry.
Timo Ronkainen
> 6. Was Barks in Bambi Unit #4 on 12/22/38? (Daniel van Eijmeren)
>"http://www.seriesam.com/barks/bambi_unit4_381222.jpg"
>
>Is was sent to me with the comment that it was found in an animation
>store and with the question if Carl Barks is among these persons.

Barks worked for Bambi. Don´t know about the unit. None of those guys on the
picture doesn´t look like Barks to me, and the artwork doesn´t also (IMO).

Timo Ronkainen

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Daniel Van Eijmeren
HARRY FLUKS to me, 5 FEBRUARY 2001:

>> Unless I missed an attack to you on the site, I also don't understand
>> why you felt attacked. Please explain.

> Kenneth already said that these fights were "annoying". Why do you
> continue this subject?

I am just replying to your messages, trying to understand what you mean.
We have both contributed (or wasted) exactly the same amount of emails
to this discussion, so I don't see any reason why you try to put the
blame on me.

> BTW, I suspect Kenneth is much younger than I thought at first. An
> opening message "Hi, I'm Kenneth, I'm from x and I'm y years old"
> would have helped in that case.

Maybe not being so agressive about his contribution also would have
helped? I don't see why you keep on putting the blame on someone else
for your anger.

> It is no more than polite to write messages in such a way that most
> of the people can read them without too much extra effort. If a
> message is clearly written without that intent, I (as one of the
> readers) indeed feel insulted. I don't consider this mailing list
> a chat box.

You didn't know who exactly you were replying to. So, what you did was
attacking intentions as you *thought* they were - without mentioning
those intentions you were thinking of. That made the anger in your
message rather unclear (at least to me), so that's why I asked you
about it.

Best wishes,

--- Daniel
Candico86
To anyone who might want to know, my name is Craig and my interest for
Scrooge is purely just an interest, I have no intention of making any website
using this kind of information. I am just very interested in his past and I
saw a timeline of his life and it mentioned the depression so I was a little
curious about it. I am moving soon and I have recently found a comic book
store with a variety of Uncle Scrooge and Uncle Scrooge Adventure comics I
have one more question that I was hoping someone would know. This might be
expeted, but what comic (either Uncle Scrooge Adventure or Uncle Scrooge or
anything) contains the most history on Scrooge's past. This can be one
liners like him saying "I remeber when I... or this reminds me of my days
when I.... like US #20 has three lines I think of him mentioning things he
has done in his past. Or if anyone knows any comics just with whole stories
with his past, I would like it very much and again for purely interest.
Thank you very much for anyone who can advise me which comics are good.
Thank you.
Daniel Van Eijmeren
NILS LID HJORT, 5 FEBRUARY 2001:

> Yet another WW II reference could be the start of the FC 147
> Volcano Valley 1947 story. It is clear that the bomber airplane
> Donald buys (for the equivalent of 3 dollars) is from a
> "war surplus" sale, which in the minds of every 1947 reader
> must have meant "after the WW II".

This bomber is identified as number "B-197 X-NG". Is this an
existing number, for example meaning a certain type of bomber
used in WWII?

Best wishes,

--- Daniel

"If there's been a mistake, it is your hard luck! You must take
what is sent you - and there'll be no refunds on your money!"
Marc Ponto
I?ve enjoyed the discussion of Donald Duck?s participation in World War
II. While the comics referred to the war only tangentially, we are still
left with many striking images from the cartoon shorts and other
propaganda efforts of the Disney studio. The most prominent example is
the unique character insignia created at the request of numerous
military units. Donald himself became the belligerent mascot for more
than 200 outfits. To help visualize this period, I?ve posted a number of
illustrations:

http://www.snap-pop.bigstep.com/

I?ll continue to add images that I?ve gathered from different sources
after giving them a more consistent look. If anyone finds that the web
page loads too slowly, I can make some adjustments. If the page isn?t
accessible at all, it?s probably due to the lag time required for a new
site to make its way around the internet. Just try it again tomorrow.
Meanwhile- for an entertaining and informative treatment of Walt
Disney?s involvement in the war, I would recommend Disney Dons Dogtags:
The Best of Disney Military Insignia From World War II, by Walton Rawls
(1992, Abbeville Press).

Marc Ponto
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
USA
Teemu.Merikumpu
Hello all,
I seem to remember reading a poem on this mailinglist written by Barks some
time ago. As I understood it he spoke of friendship, tolerance, trust and
peace.
Nice to see that all those who were so eager to express their sorrow when
he was gone are keeping up with his ideals by nitpicking others writing,
webpages and questioning their motives for asking questions about our beloved
U$ & Co.
It's nice to see that this mailinglist is a friendly place where the only
requirement is an honest interest in disney comics (no degree in oxford
english etc.)

just a fan who believes in kindness of humankind (=someone deprived of any
common sense, apparently),
Teemu

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Rob Jones
Hello everyone, I'm one of those list lurkers that
sometimes get mentioned but only because I've never
really had anything constructive to add to the
coversation. Anyway, regarding war references, the
Barks story from WDCS 64 has one of the nephews saying
that Donald has 40 pounds of sugar hidden in the
garage. Sounds like a reference to rationing and
hoarding. Sadly, this not only places Donald at home
during the war but also exposes him as a hoarder.
Take care,
zapjones at yahoo.com

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Pietro Reynaud-Bersanino
In DCML digest, Vol 1 #400, Message: 7 you wrote:

>From: "Daniel van Eijmeren" <dve at kabelfoon.nl>

>Can someone tell me more about this book?
I read that book more than 10 years ago at the Italian National Library of
Rome.
I can remember 3 things:
- a parallel drawn from BB and the mafia;
- a list of all the DD jobs in Barks stories;
- a nice essay about the population invented by Barks

1/3 or more is American and Italian index.
>
>What is the size?
15 x 20 cm

>Are the illustrations in colour, greyscale or monographic?
B&W monographic

>Is it a paperback, a softcover or a hardcover?
sc

>Is "Firenze" the Italian name for "Florence"?

In My Humbling "Italian" Opinion, "Florence" is the english name for
Firenze, and Firenze **is** The name of Firenze ^____^ .

>Is "BNI 751569" an Italian equivalent of the ISBN-number?
Maybe yes in the "'70"
>
>Is "Introduction to Donald: The social phenomenology in Barks' comics"
>a proper translation of the title?
Yes, it is!

Ciao da Pietro
Fluks, H.W.
> From: teemu.merikumpu at suomi24.fi [mailto:teemu.merikumpu at suomi24.fi]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 2:42 AM

> this mailinglist is a friendly place where the only
> requirement is an honest interest in disney comics

Thanks for the kind words! I fully agree with the above.

--Harry.
Kevin Clark
>From: teemu.merikumpu at suomi24.fi
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: RE: DCML digest, Vol 1 #400 - 7 msgs
>Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 01:41:55 -2200
>
>Hello all,
>I seem to remember reading a poem on this mailinglist written by Barks some
>time ago. As I understood it he spoke of friendship, tolerance, trust and
>peace.

I didn't see that poem. I wish I had. But I somehow doubt Unca Carl
would've advocated Peace At Any Cost.

I haven't really seen anyone picking nits about writing -- just demanding
that people's writing be sufficiently literate so as to be understood. Do
you really think it dishonors Barks' memory to say that a badly-designed
webpage (whose author shows no interest in learning HTML) is badly-designed?
There is a distinction between tolerance and silence about substandard
work. We've had instances of Disney-artist-bashing, and if they aren't
sacrosanct on this list, why should a mere webpage be above reproach?

>It's nice to see that this mailinglist is a friendly place where the only
>requirement is an honest interest in disney comics (no degree in oxford
>english etc.)

Wall, Ah dunno if'n Ah agrees witchou, butchou got one parnt -- we don' need
no fancy book-larnin' aroun' heah!
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Dan Shane
> To anyone who might want to know, my name is Craig and my interest for
> Scrooge is purely just an interest, I have no intention of making any
website
> using this kind of information.

Well, I would just like to finally extend my "official" welcome to you,
Craig. Now that we have some idea who we are actually writing to, it's a
pleasure to be of any service we can.

> This might be
> expeted, but what comic (either Uncle Scrooge Adventure or Uncle Scrooge
or
> anything) contains the most history on Scrooge's past.

You'll get lots of replies on this one, and most of them will suggest what
I'm about to.

Go to that comics store and ask for any of the "Life of Scrooge" issues
written and illustrated by Don Rosa, especially the 4 quality-bound
compilation books. If the store doesn't have them, the manager can order
them for you. You will not only have the first 12 stories in that series
which give lots of details of Scrooge's ascent from poor Scottish laddie to
the Richest Man in the World, but there are plenty of text articles culled
form Don's own research into Scrooge's "past."

That will give you a healthy start on one of the most enjoyable excursions
in the world of comics. Then come back here for any bits of "history" that
may seem to have been missed. We'll be glad to help.

Dan Shane
(danshane at bellsouth.net)
Don Rosa
From: Candico86 at aol.com
>>>To anyone who might want to know, my name is Craig and my interest for
Scrooge is purely just an interest, I have no intention of making any
website
using this kind of information. I am just very interested in his past
...but what comic (either Uncle Scrooge Adventure or Uncle Scrooge or
anything) contains the most history on Scrooge's past.

I see that you actually directly asked me for an answer to your questions
in your previous message, so I'll answer you again as in the past.
I think what was puzzling Dan and what's been puzzling me about your odd
questions is that you keep asking the same ones over and over no matter how
many times we answer. Also, it seems evident that you have never read any
$crooge or Disney comics -- this is implied by the fact you seem to have
read your first one last week (long after your first questions) and were
surprised to see that HD&L do not live with Uncle $crooge, something which
is rather clear in virtually every Duck story ever printed (but which is
not shown accurately on the "DuckTales" TV series). I certainly *applaud*
your interest in $crooge's past, but it seems like you first need an
interest in his comic book stories in general, or what's the point?

But the main thing that puzzles *especially* me is that, before you joined
this ML, you were sending these same questions to Dan and to me months ago
through Dan's "$crooge McDuck website" (where my e-mail address is listed
with his). At that time we tried to be as helpful as we could be, clearly
explained that there has never actually been a detailed history of
$crooge's past life, and that I constructed my entire "Life of $crooge"
series merely
from tiny snips of facts spread out through the dialogue in many old tales.
And if you wanted to learn about those facts, all you needed to do was read
the website that you already were visiting where ALL of these references
were clearly listed one by one -- and for some reason that's all you seemed
to want was a list. But we also encouraged you to read the *comics
themselves*. Every single one of the original story titles and original
issue
numbers are all listed carefully and completely on Dan's website, and we
even told you of places you could buy all of these issues, such as the
Hamilton website and eBay (especially the latter where the series is
constantly being offered in sets or individually at very low prices).
I am naturally pleased to see someone with as great an interest in
$crooge's (imaginary!) past as I have, but what more can we do for you? Why
keep asking others the same questions that we've already given you the most
complete possible answers to?
Frank Stajano
At 2001-02-05 22:17 -0800, you wrote:
>There is a painting by Roy Lictenstein, see
>http://www.nga.gov/cgi-bin/pinfo?Object=70272+0+exhibit, of Mickey and
>Donald fishing. This image of Mickey is very strange. Notice the small
>eyes and the long pants. Donald is 1940+ image. Lichtenstein is
>reported to have painted this from a bubble gum wrapper. I have
>discovered that this is not true. I suspect comic book. Any ideas?
>Thought or commments.

I shall refrain to comment on the quality of the artwork, for which the
"big name" is to me insufficient compensation.

While I do not recognize the image as being anything familiar, I can at
least say that it was extremely rare for the comic books to feature Mickey
and Donald in the same story, so it looks unlikely that this might have
been the source. Disney merchandise (like this mythical bubble gum wrapper,
but anything else from mugs to T-shirts would have been equally suitable)
is more likely, being (as it is) produced by people who know very little
about the characters beyond their graphical aspect.

I am forwarding this message to a list of people interested in Disney
comics, whence others might send you further observations.

Frank (filologo disneyano) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
François Willot
You can read the following without any fear, there are NO spoiler in this
email...

Contents of Picsou #349:
- Cover by Carl Barks (reinked panel)
- Pin-Up page #33 by Don Rosa, illustrating LoS epidode inside the issue
- La jeunesse de Picsou, 3 pages editorial
- Episode 10 bis, code F PM 01201, new LoS chapter by Don Rosa, 26 pages
- The Hard Loser, OS 29 by Carl Barks
- Seals are So Smart, OS 108, by Carl Barks
- Pin Up page originally meant for Picsou #348 , 2 pages illustration by Don
Rosa (b&w)
- Snow Fun, WDC 40 by Carl Barks
- The Duck in the Iron Pants , DC 41, by Carl Barks
- The Mad Chemist, WDC 44, by Carl Barks
- Movie Mad, WDC 46, by Carl Barks
- 2 of Don Rosa's original scripts for the New Life of Scrooge chapter

Next month, Picsou will publish an hommage issue to the Duck Maestro, Carl
Barks.

Francois Willot
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