Hi!
I need other Original Names!
In DDFC 422 (The Gilded Man), what is the stamps collector name, and what is the city were Susibelle lived after Guyana and before Duckburg?
In DDFC 108, a Duckbill Docteur appears... What's his name?
On page 3, panel 3 we see his licence on the wall, with a school name. In the French, version, I think, they've kept the same name, but we don't see it entirelly. What is it, to you? (School of Quack.....)
If somebody knows about other Disneyan Cities other than Duckburg, Mouseton/Mouseville, Goosetown, Spoonerville, and St Canard, and other rivers than Tulebug, please let me know :-)
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Topic: 200102
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Gilles MAURICE
Original names needed...
Message 241 -
2001-02-28 at 15:11:22
Olivier
Original names needed, Magenta stamp, Other places
Message 242 -
2001-02-28 at 17:04:42
Here we go again...
DD FC 422: (p 4, panel 6)
"Here's his name on the flyleaf! It's Philo T. Ellic,
120 Swankmore Drive!"
(pp 25-6) "Miss Susiebelle Swan, 60 Honker Street,
Mudhen, Ohio, USA"
"She left in 1880! Gave a forwarding addess
of 10 Quack Road, Webfoot, Oregon!"
"She floated away in 1910! Said to forward her
mail to 45 Mallard Avenue, Duckburg, California"
Browsing through the many links I haven't list on M&D yet, I found
a page with redrawn panels from this story and-- a picture of the
Magenta stamp!
Can anyone tell me where it was?
DD FC 108: What story is that?
There is one "Doctor Carver Beakoff [MD, QQC],
Number 249 Groaner Building" at the end of "The Firebug",
but that's not the one.
Other places (outside of Duckburg) I can think of:
Omelet (WDC&S 146, Album 22)
Pizen Bluff (U$ 26, U$ 306)
Pizen Spring Dude Ranch (WDC&S 102, March '49, Album 15)
The infamous Mt Mushmore in Great Head Park ("Losing Face",
WDC&S 24, Sept '57, Album 33); on the way to Daisy's Aunt Matilda's,
who lives in Swanville
Mocking Bird Ridge (WDC&S 215, Aug '58, Album 36)
DD FC 422: (p 4, panel 6)
"Here's his name on the flyleaf! It's Philo T. Ellic,
120 Swankmore Drive!"
(pp 25-6) "Miss Susiebelle Swan, 60 Honker Street,
Mudhen, Ohio, USA"
"She left in 1880! Gave a forwarding addess
of 10 Quack Road, Webfoot, Oregon!"
"She floated away in 1910! Said to forward her
mail to 45 Mallard Avenue, Duckburg, California"
Browsing through the many links I haven't list on M&D yet, I found
a page with redrawn panels from this story and-- a picture of the
Magenta stamp!
Can anyone tell me where it was?
DD FC 108: What story is that?
There is one "Doctor Carver Beakoff [MD, QQC],
Number 249 Groaner Building" at the end of "The Firebug",
but that's not the one.
Other places (outside of Duckburg) I can think of:
Omelet (WDC&S 146, Album 22)
Pizen Bluff (U$ 26, U$ 306)
Pizen Spring Dude Ranch (WDC&S 102, March '49, Album 15)
The infamous Mt Mushmore in Great Head Park ("Losing Face",
WDC&S 24, Sept '57, Album 33); on the way to Daisy's Aunt Matilda's,
who lives in Swanville
Mocking Bird Ridge (WDC&S 215, Aug '58, Album 36)
Merlin Haas
Morty & Ferdie in Gyro story
Message 243 -
2001-02-28 at 17:38:47
"Gilles MAURICE" <goofy313g at infonie.fr> wrote:
> >>>you never see mousefaces in the duck stories=20
>Yes, in a Gyro Gearloose's story, in US 13, you'll see Morty and Ferdie =
>Fieldmouse.
Interesting fact is that those characters were originally
supposed to be Huey, Dewey, or Louie in Barks' original story, but
were changed at the last moment when the US Post Office decided that
characters in the backup stories couldn't be the same as those in the
main feature. (This was one of the strange requirements in content
needed in order to get a second class mailing permit in order to send
subscription copies through the mail at a much reduced rate. This was
also the reason the Gyro stories exist at all (and since they're some
of my favorites, perhaps we should thank the bureaucrats this time).)
In another Gyro story, the character "Speedy" was originally
supposed to be Donald (which is why he drives a car that looks just
like Donald's.)
best -- Merlin Haas
> >>>you never see mousefaces in the duck stories=20
>Yes, in a Gyro Gearloose's story, in US 13, you'll see Morty and Ferdie =
>Fieldmouse.
Interesting fact is that those characters were originally
supposed to be Huey, Dewey, or Louie in Barks' original story, but
were changed at the last moment when the US Post Office decided that
characters in the backup stories couldn't be the same as those in the
main feature. (This was one of the strange requirements in content
needed in order to get a second class mailing permit in order to send
subscription copies through the mail at a much reduced rate. This was
also the reason the Gyro stories exist at all (and since they're some
of my favorites, perhaps we should thank the bureaucrats this time).)
In another Gyro story, the character "Speedy" was originally
supposed to be Donald (which is why he drives a car that looks just
like Donald's.)
best -- Merlin Haas
Rich
About Disney "genetics" or "species"
Message 244 -
2001-02-28 at 18:21:00
On this topic of "genetics" as applied to the comicbook/animated characters,
I guess I am partly to blame. In my HooZoo I decided to classify the characters
in some way that would give uniformity to the notion of "species" in the cartoon
worlds where they lived. I got the idea of "dogfaces" and "pignoses"
and "duckbills"
from this very Mailing List way back when it first began (c. 1992) as it was
common for us to refer to the characters as such. I think the origins
of those
terms actually preceded this Mailing List, probably used by Carl Barks
or someone
speaking of his works? In anycase, it hit a certain chord with me and I decided
it would be a great addition to the HOOZOO! I added to the list of species
with Birdbeaks, Mouseears, Catspaws and Bearclaws. I almost expanded further,
but I realized there were only rare exceptions to these "species" to be noted,
such as Clarabelle, Horace, Max Hare, Toby Tortoise and a few others who do
not clearly fit the set categories, so I just determined to called them
"anthropomorphized...." Most species in Mouseton and Duckburg easily
fit within
the Duckbill, Bearclaw, Dogface, Mouseear, Pignose and Birdbeak
categories as they
tend to be the most commonly found (especially Duckbills and Dogfaces).
One thing to note is that the term "dogface" and "dognose" are actually interchangeable...
they are the same species.
The funny thing about the terms, they are all common words in the
American english,
and did not really originate with me or this List, but we have made
ample use
of them in applying them as attributes of Donald, the Beagle Boys and others.
"Race", on the other hand, is an entirely different issue. I have seen "black"
and "white" Duckbills, and I believe that Mickey and Goofy, while having "black"
pelts, are NOT considered to be of any sort of "African" ethnicity.
Most people
would agree that Mickey, Minnie, Goofy, Horace, Clarabelle and others
are generally
considered to be "white" characters, as is Donald, Uncle $crooge and others.
It is my preference, actually, not to apply "race" to any of the characters
at all, though, I think, as Gilles pointed out, it is obvious that Metropolis
was intended to be a racially "black" character. I've also seen Romano Scarpa
and Carl Barks, and even Don Rosa, make some characters with specific attributes
that imply "race" such as Indians and Asians, even though such "racial" characteristics
were applied to "Dogfaces" and "Duckbills." So I think it is inaccurate to
blanket one "species" as equating a particular "race."
On the issue of Mouseton vs. Duckburg, well that's been hashed and
rehashed here
a couple times in the past. I think we determine, essentially, that it
all depends
on which COUNTRY is publishing the comics. I forget the whole findings,
but in
the USA and some parts of Europe Mouseton and Duckburg are seperate
cities/towns,
in many parts of Europe and Brazil, Mickey & Donald both live in
Duckburg. Some
who remembers the stats better can fill in the details.
Rich Bellacera
xephyr at jps.net
I guess I am partly to blame. In my HooZoo I decided to classify the characters
in some way that would give uniformity to the notion of "species" in the cartoon
worlds where they lived. I got the idea of "dogfaces" and "pignoses"
and "duckbills"
from this very Mailing List way back when it first began (c. 1992) as it was
common for us to refer to the characters as such. I think the origins
of those
terms actually preceded this Mailing List, probably used by Carl Barks
or someone
speaking of his works? In anycase, it hit a certain chord with me and I decided
it would be a great addition to the HOOZOO! I added to the list of species
with Birdbeaks, Mouseears, Catspaws and Bearclaws. I almost expanded further,
but I realized there were only rare exceptions to these "species" to be noted,
such as Clarabelle, Horace, Max Hare, Toby Tortoise and a few others who do
not clearly fit the set categories, so I just determined to called them
"anthropomorphized...." Most species in Mouseton and Duckburg easily
fit within
the Duckbill, Bearclaw, Dogface, Mouseear, Pignose and Birdbeak
categories as they
tend to be the most commonly found (especially Duckbills and Dogfaces).
One thing to note is that the term "dogface" and "dognose" are actually interchangeable...
they are the same species.
The funny thing about the terms, they are all common words in the
American english,
and did not really originate with me or this List, but we have made
ample use
of them in applying them as attributes of Donald, the Beagle Boys and others.
"Race", on the other hand, is an entirely different issue. I have seen "black"
and "white" Duckbills, and I believe that Mickey and Goofy, while having "black"
pelts, are NOT considered to be of any sort of "African" ethnicity.
Most people
would agree that Mickey, Minnie, Goofy, Horace, Clarabelle and others
are generally
considered to be "white" characters, as is Donald, Uncle $crooge and others.
It is my preference, actually, not to apply "race" to any of the characters
at all, though, I think, as Gilles pointed out, it is obvious that Metropolis
was intended to be a racially "black" character. I've also seen Romano Scarpa
and Carl Barks, and even Don Rosa, make some characters with specific attributes
that imply "race" such as Indians and Asians, even though such "racial" characteristics
were applied to "Dogfaces" and "Duckbills." So I think it is inaccurate to
blanket one "species" as equating a particular "race."
On the issue of Mouseton vs. Duckburg, well that's been hashed and
rehashed here
a couple times in the past. I think we determine, essentially, that it
all depends
on which COUNTRY is publishing the comics. I forget the whole findings,
but in
the USA and some parts of Europe Mouseton and Duckburg are seperate
cities/towns,
in many parts of Europe and Brazil, Mickey & Donald both live in
Duckburg. Some
who remembers the stats better can fill in the details.
Rich Bellacera
xephyr at jps.net
Fernando Ventura
Gilles Maurice: Disneyan cities!
Message 245 -
2001-02-28 at 20:31:16
>If somebody knows about other Disneyan Cities other than Duckburg, =
>Mouseton/Mouseville, Goosetown, Spoonerville, and St Canard, and other =
>rivers than Tulebug, please let me know :-)
Hum...Z? Carioca lives on Vila Xurupita, Rio de Janeiro! And the counsins of
him, lives on his respectivies cities, states on Brazil...for example, Z?
Paulista lives on S?o Paulo!
Fernando!
>Mouseton/Mouseville, Goosetown, Spoonerville, and St Canard, and other =
>rivers than Tulebug, please let me know :-)
Hum...Z? Carioca lives on Vila Xurupita, Rio de Janeiro! And the counsins of
him, lives on his respectivies cities, states on Brazil...for example, Z?
Paulista lives on S?o Paulo!
Fernando!