At 08:05:30 16/02/2001 +0100, Michael Naiman wrote:
>
>I have a copy of the Duck poem that Carl faxed me on April 1, 1999.
>I seem to have missed the discussion regarding the wording.
>anyone interested?
>
Me! ;-)
I am interested in a "philologically correct" version of the poem. For
Carl's sake... (I hope this is not blasphemous, in any sense ;-) ...)
The question I posed concerned some possible typo in the text that has been
published, on this ML and afterwards on quite a few magazines. For example,
the last verse might possibly be "us glad we bought their story" instead of
"us glad be bought their story".
Daniel, in fact, mailed us a text that is slightly different from the
"first known version".
Apart from my question, it would be nice to have a copy of the fax you
mention.
Maybe you can snail-mail me a xerox copy? Then I'd scan it and put it
on-line. Or, of course, you might do the scan and the uploading yourself...
Well, just in case, a good address to reach me is:
Marco Barlotti
Casella Postale 4208
I 50135 Firenze FI
Italy
;-)
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics/BarksIndex.html
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Topic: 200102
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Marco Barlotti
MICHAEL: Barks' poem
Message 196 -
2001-02-17 at 20:27:34
Jmbarrier
Barrier book
Message 197 -
2001-02-17 at 21:04:07
Several people have asked about the status of my book Carl Barks and the Art
of the Comic Book. That book is still in print, and, in fact, has never gone
out of print; the publisher, Mark Lilien, reprinted the book about a year
ago, without asking me to make any revisions or corrections. The book is
available (at least in the U.S.) from amazon.com, and also directly from
Lilien. The price (over which I have no control, unfortunately--Lilien and I
are not even on speaking terms) is now $90. Lilien's address and telephone
number are: Mark I. Lilien, 350 Bleecker St., #3E, New York NY 10014; (212)
929-4619.
Michael Barrier
226 North Saint Asaph Street
Alexandria VA 22314-2517
703 549 3684
703 549 3689 (fax)
jmbarrier at aol.com
of the Comic Book. That book is still in print, and, in fact, has never gone
out of print; the publisher, Mark Lilien, reprinted the book about a year
ago, without asking me to make any revisions or corrections. The book is
available (at least in the U.S.) from amazon.com, and also directly from
Lilien. The price (over which I have no control, unfortunately--Lilien and I
are not even on speaking terms) is now $90. Lilien's address and telephone
number are: Mark I. Lilien, 350 Bleecker St., #3E, New York NY 10014; (212)
929-4619.
Michael Barrier
226 North Saint Asaph Street
Alexandria VA 22314-2517
703 549 3684
703 549 3689 (fax)
jmbarrier at aol.com
Eta Beta
Goats, dogs and UK
Message 198 -
2001-02-17 at 23:09:37
RICH (both of you :-)
>Billy the Goat.......................................... Dailies
This goat first appears on 1938-11-19, given to Donald by Gus at
the end of his stay at the farm (note that Gus and Grandma don't
seem to live together back then...)
>NOTE: I called Donald's goat "Billy" but I could be mistaken.
Most goats of the male persuasion are called "Billy" in english,
I understand...
However, I do have a strip where the goat is actually called by
name, in the 1938-11-28 daily, apparently its last appearance,
where Donald goes something like "Now get into the house and chase
that stinkin' Billy out" to a scythe-taloned Hortense, but I have a
suspicion the name might have been added by the Italian editors in
a ret-conning effort, so to speak, being the reprint rather recent...
could anybody check the original text in that strip, and/or what
other countries have ?
In any case, this seems to me perfectly equivalent to Tabby the cat,
where we found out that Barks himself had used a cat named Tabby in
a 40's ten-pager, but we agreed that it wasn't THE Tabby brought to
us by Al Hubbard and Dick Kinney in the early 60s...
In short, my opinion is still that this is NOT Grandma's Billy.
>Donald's Frog (no given name?)......................... WDC&S #108 (9/49)
B 36
>>The bloodhound, Plasma, whom Eta found is a different character.
>
>Obviously different from a St. Bernard or a spaniel...
[...]
>When and where did Plasma appear
Wish I knew... I have an italian reprint from 1961 of a sunday page,
guess it couldn't be earlier than late 50s...
>and did he
>belong to Donald, the Junior Woodchucks, or someone else?
Donald, as it appears. Sorry but I can't even tell whether it's
just a one-shot prop or a recurring character.
To end with, the sad matter of Disney comics in english language
and/or availability of the same in the british isles pops up
every now and then, so although I've posted this piece of info
quite a few times already in past years, here goes again...
The only place in which I've been able to find Disney comics in
the UK (and Ireland) is a London shop called GOSH!, conveniently
(for a tourist, at least :-) located in front of the British Museum.
It used to carry all Gladstone/Disney titles, including back issues
and at cover price, too, as well as old Dells and Gold Keys (not
exactly cheap, these ones...)
Haven't been there in a coupla years, though...
Cheers
Eta Beta
>Billy the Goat.......................................... Dailies
This goat first appears on 1938-11-19, given to Donald by Gus at
the end of his stay at the farm (note that Gus and Grandma don't
seem to live together back then...)
>NOTE: I called Donald's goat "Billy" but I could be mistaken.
Most goats of the male persuasion are called "Billy" in english,
I understand...
However, I do have a strip where the goat is actually called by
name, in the 1938-11-28 daily, apparently its last appearance,
where Donald goes something like "Now get into the house and chase
that stinkin' Billy out" to a scythe-taloned Hortense, but I have a
suspicion the name might have been added by the Italian editors in
a ret-conning effort, so to speak, being the reprint rather recent...
could anybody check the original text in that strip, and/or what
other countries have ?
In any case, this seems to me perfectly equivalent to Tabby the cat,
where we found out that Barks himself had used a cat named Tabby in
a 40's ten-pager, but we agreed that it wasn't THE Tabby brought to
us by Al Hubbard and Dick Kinney in the early 60s...
In short, my opinion is still that this is NOT Grandma's Billy.
>Donald's Frog (no given name?)......................... WDC&S #108 (9/49)
B 36
>>The bloodhound, Plasma, whom Eta found is a different character.
>
>Obviously different from a St. Bernard or a spaniel...
[...]
>When and where did Plasma appear
Wish I knew... I have an italian reprint from 1961 of a sunday page,
guess it couldn't be earlier than late 50s...
>and did he
>belong to Donald, the Junior Woodchucks, or someone else?
Donald, as it appears. Sorry but I can't even tell whether it's
just a one-shot prop or a recurring character.
To end with, the sad matter of Disney comics in english language
and/or availability of the same in the british isles pops up
every now and then, so although I've posted this piece of info
quite a few times already in past years, here goes again...
The only place in which I've been able to find Disney comics in
the UK (and Ireland) is a London shop called GOSH!, conveniently
(for a tourist, at least :-) located in front of the British Museum.
It used to carry all Gladstone/Disney titles, including back issues
and at cover price, too, as well as old Dells and Gold Keys (not
exactly cheap, these ones...)
Haven't been there in a coupla years, though...
Cheers
Eta Beta
Stefan Persson
Goats, dogs and UK
Message 199 -
2001-02-18 at 00:33:10
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eta Beta" <eega at supereva.it>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: goats, dogs and UK
> RICH (both of you :-)
>
> >Billy the Goat.......................................... Dailies
>
> >NOTE: I called Donald's goat "Billy" but I could be mistaken.
>
> Most goats of the male persuasion are called "Billy" in english,
> I understand...
>
> However, I do have a strip where the goat is actually called by
> name, in the 1938-11-28 daily, apparently its last appearance,
> where Donald goes something like "Now get into the house and chase
> that stinkin' Billy out" to a scythe-taloned Hortense,
In Swedish: "Geten luktar pyton! Hj?lp mej f? ut den ur huset!" (The goat
stinks horrible! Help me to get it out of the house.) That is, no name is
used here. Nor anywhere else.
Stefan
From: "Eta Beta" <eega at supereva.it>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: goats, dogs and UK
> RICH (both of you :-)
>
> >Billy the Goat.......................................... Dailies
>
> >NOTE: I called Donald's goat "Billy" but I could be mistaken.
>
> Most goats of the male persuasion are called "Billy" in english,
> I understand...
>
> However, I do have a strip where the goat is actually called by
> name, in the 1938-11-28 daily, apparently its last appearance,
> where Donald goes something like "Now get into the house and chase
> that stinkin' Billy out" to a scythe-taloned Hortense,
In Swedish: "Geten luktar pyton! Hj?lp mej f? ut den ur huset!" (The goat
stinks horrible! Help me to get it out of the house.) That is, no name is
used here. Nor anywhere else.
Stefan
Olivier
Goats, dogs, and UK
Message 200 -
2001-02-18 at 01:05:19
Hello again!
>>However, I do have a strip where the goat is actually called by
>>name, in the 1938-11-28 daily, apparently its last appearance,
>>where Donald goes something like "Now get into the house and chase
>>that stinkin' Billy out" to a scythe-taloned Hortense, but I have a
>>suspicion the name might have been added by the Italian editors in
>>a ret-conning effort, so to speak, being the reprint rather recent...
>>could anybody check the original text in that strip, and/or what
>>other countries have ?
That's the name in original strip too, as reprinted in Gladstone's
"Donald Duck" 292 (Sept '95):
"Now go in there and run that fragrant Billy goat
outa the house!"
Thanks for the information regarding the stores in London,
Thomas & Eta!
Olivier
>>However, I do have a strip where the goat is actually called by
>>name, in the 1938-11-28 daily, apparently its last appearance,
>>where Donald goes something like "Now get into the house and chase
>>that stinkin' Billy out" to a scythe-taloned Hortense, but I have a
>>suspicion the name might have been added by the Italian editors in
>>a ret-conning effort, so to speak, being the reprint rather recent...
>>could anybody check the original text in that strip, and/or what
>>other countries have ?
That's the name in original strip too, as reprinted in Gladstone's
"Donald Duck" 292 (Sept '95):
"Now go in there and run that fragrant Billy goat
outa the house!"
Thanks for the information regarding the stores in London,
Thomas & Eta!
Olivier
SRoweCanoe
Goats, dogs, and UK
Message 201 -
2001-02-18 at 13:42:54
In a message dated 02/17/2001 6:14:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr writes:
<< That's the name in original strip too, as reprinted in Gladstone's
"Donald Duck" 292 (Sept '95):
"Now go in there and run that fragrant Billy goat
outa the house!"
>>
Ok, just keep in mind that in the USA, "Billy Goat" means a male goat.
("Nanny Goat" means a female goat).
Steven Rowe
mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr writes:
<< That's the name in original strip too, as reprinted in Gladstone's
"Donald Duck" 292 (Sept '95):
"Now go in there and run that fragrant Billy goat
outa the house!"
>>
Ok, just keep in mind that in the USA, "Billy Goat" means a male goat.
("Nanny Goat" means a female goat).
Steven Rowe
Timo Ronkainen
Gil Turner Q
Message 202 -
2001-02-18 at 20:27:49
Does anyone know when the great Li´l Wolf artist Gil Turner was born? I have
a feeling that I read somewhere the year 1911. Am I right? I guess he is
deceased by now?
I think he did the best Li´l Wolf stories ever. Great artwork and he also
wrote most of his stories too, in them relationship between Zeke and his son
has deeper levels and plots have much more than that eternal chase after
pigs. He was animator at Warner´s but did he ever work at Disney´s as well?
What else comics he did for Western besides Barney Bear and Disney´s Wolf? I
somewhere read that he had a comic strip called "Chico" around 1948. Anyone
heard about or seen that one?
Trying to collect bits and pieces of info to a bigger picture. All the help
is welcome.
Timo Ronkainen
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a feeling that I read somewhere the year 1911. Am I right? I guess he is
deceased by now?
I think he did the best Li´l Wolf stories ever. Great artwork and he also
wrote most of his stories too, in them relationship between Zeke and his son
has deeper levels and plots have much more than that eternal chase after
pigs. He was animator at Warner´s but did he ever work at Disney´s as well?
What else comics he did for Western besides Barney Bear and Disney´s Wolf? I
somewhere read that he had a comic strip called "Chico" around 1948. Anyone
heard about or seen that one?
Trying to collect bits and pieces of info to a bigger picture. All the help
is welcome.
Timo Ronkainen
.................................
"Rumble on, buxom bumble bee!
Go sit on cowslip - far from me!"
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SRoweCanoe
Gil Turner Q
Message 203 -
2001-02-18 at 21:30:43
In a message dated 02/18/2001 1:30:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,
timoro at hotmail.com writes:
<< What else comics he did for Western besides Barney Bear and Disney?s Wolf?
I
somewhere read that he had a comic strip called "Chico" around 1948. Anyone
heard about or seen that one?
Trying to collect bits and pieces of info to a bigger picture. All the help
is welcome. >>
Not sure how much you know,, so you may already know that in comics, Gil
Turner started moonlighting for Jim Davis and the Sangor Shop from circa 1943
to circa 1948. Really nice stuff, I felt it was a shame when the shop ended
and he went to Western and went from 3 tier pages to 4. I'm away from my
files, but believe that he worked for Western until the early 1960s, and died
in the 1970s.
Steven Rowe
timoro at hotmail.com writes:
<< What else comics he did for Western besides Barney Bear and Disney?s Wolf?
I
somewhere read that he had a comic strip called "Chico" around 1948. Anyone
heard about or seen that one?
Trying to collect bits and pieces of info to a bigger picture. All the help
is welcome. >>
Not sure how much you know,, so you may already know that in comics, Gil
Turner started moonlighting for Jim Davis and the Sangor Shop from circa 1943
to circa 1948. Really nice stuff, I felt it was a shame when the shop ended
and he went to Western and went from 3 tier pages to 4. I'm away from my
files, but believe that he worked for Western until the early 1960s, and died
in the 1970s.
Steven Rowe
Kfitz
WWII
Message 204 -
2001-02-18 at 21:53:47
Even though the war effort is not mentioned specifically (I think), Donald's Victory Garden is based on something that was done during WW2.
-Kathy
-Kathy
Pertti.Ruismaki
Gilles Maurice's HISTORY OF THE DUCKS
Message 205 -
2001-02-19 at 09:08:16
On 3/13/1920, Donald Fauntleroy Duck and Della Thelma Duck bear
Sorry for my incomplete English, but wouldn't the verb "hatch" be more
appropriate here? I've seen
pictures of Donald hatching, but they may be inofficial like the Scrooge's
grave picture by Don Rosa.
So he stays one year in Duckburg and his friends in Mouseton
What is Mouseton? The home town of Mickey and Goofy? I thought, they were
native Duckburgers. By the way, why do Mickey and Donald appear together
so rarely nowadays? Is it only because duck artist don't like to do mouse
stories and vice versa?
to Duckburg and marries December Duck. Della Duck marries one of Daisy?s
brother and becomes pregnant of 3 (4 ?) sons.
So, the Disney ducks are actually mammals after all... :-)
-Pertti
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Sorry for my incomplete English, but wouldn't the verb "hatch" be more
appropriate here? I've seen
pictures of Donald hatching, but they may be inofficial like the Scrooge's
grave picture by Don Rosa.
So he stays one year in Duckburg and his friends in Mouseton
What is Mouseton? The home town of Mickey and Goofy? I thought, they were
native Duckburgers. By the way, why do Mickey and Donald appear together
so rarely nowadays? Is it only because duck artist don't like to do mouse
stories and vice versa?
to Duckburg and marries December Duck. Della Duck marries one of Daisy?s
brother and becomes pregnant of 3 (4 ?) sons.
So, the Disney ducks are actually mammals after all... :-)
-Pertti
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Back....and Donald's birthday
Message 206 -
2001-02-19 at 21:32:06
Here I am, back again; but not from lurking. My computer has payed a two-week
visit to the surgeon. Multimedial difficulties, not yet quite solved even
now, but that's
off-topic.
At 12:02 17-2-01 +0100, Don Rosa wrote:
>On 3/13/1920, Donald Fauntleroy Duck and Della Thelma Duck bear.
>They probably bear in Duckburg, children of Hortense Mc Duck and Quackmore
>Duck.
At first, my question may sound silly, but I'll explain it. Why this date
of March 13th?
It's something of a tradition, it seems; however, I think a thing or two
should be said
about it. Legend (an urban one??) has it that Donald's birthday was settled
even in the
thirties, and from those days everybody's copying it from everybody. Same
legend says
it was done to make Donald a Fish, astrologically speaking. Well,
astrology's truthfulness
need not be considered here; I still know enough about the character traits
traditionally
attributed to the zodiac signs, and I can tell you that the very idea of
Donald being a Fish
would make any self-respecting astrologer burst out laughing! If you want
to have it the
astrological way, Donald would be more of a Scorpion with Moon in the Lion;
Ram will be
his Ascendant. The aforementioned astrologer will tell you that this makes
a lot more
sense!
However, my own question will be clear now: is this "legend" true?
Is it correct that
once upon a time, there was an authority telling the world he had
discovered that Donald's
birthday should be pinned down on the 13th day of any March? If so, did he
consider
it necessary or useful to make Donald a Fish, and why?
Greetings, Henri
visit to the surgeon. Multimedial difficulties, not yet quite solved even
now, but that's
off-topic.
At 12:02 17-2-01 +0100, Don Rosa wrote:
>On 3/13/1920, Donald Fauntleroy Duck and Della Thelma Duck bear.
>They probably bear in Duckburg, children of Hortense Mc Duck and Quackmore
>Duck.
At first, my question may sound silly, but I'll explain it. Why this date
of March 13th?
It's something of a tradition, it seems; however, I think a thing or two
should be said
about it. Legend (an urban one??) has it that Donald's birthday was settled
even in the
thirties, and from those days everybody's copying it from everybody. Same
legend says
it was done to make Donald a Fish, astrologically speaking. Well,
astrology's truthfulness
need not be considered here; I still know enough about the character traits
traditionally
attributed to the zodiac signs, and I can tell you that the very idea of
Donald being a Fish
would make any self-respecting astrologer burst out laughing! If you want
to have it the
astrological way, Donald would be more of a Scorpion with Moon in the Lion;
Ram will be
his Ascendant. The aforementioned astrologer will tell you that this makes
a lot more
sense!
However, my own question will be clear now: is this "legend" true?
Is it correct that
once upon a time, there was an authority telling the world he had
discovered that Donald's
birthday should be pinned down on the 13th day of any March? If so, did he
consider
it necessary or useful to make Donald a Fish, and why?
Greetings, Henri
Timo Ronkainen
Gil Turner
Message 207 -
2001-02-20 at 11:29:30
> 3. Re: Gil Turner Q (SRoweCanoe at aol.com)
>Not sure how much you know,, so you may already know that in comics, Gil
>Turner started moonlighting for Jim Davis and the Sangor Shop from circa
>1943
>to circa 1948.
I read about that in Jack Bradbury-interview. It was until reading that I
realized that Sangor Shop became ACG.. 8-)
He did funny animal stuff there only? Did you get the information about this
from that Michael Vances book? That I have heard but never seen.
Was the year of birth correct?
Thanks
Timo Ronkainen
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>Not sure how much you know,, so you may already know that in comics, Gil
>Turner started moonlighting for Jim Davis and the Sangor Shop from circa
>1943
>to circa 1948.
I read about that in Jack Bradbury-interview. It was until reading that I
realized that Sangor Shop became ACG.. 8-)
He did funny animal stuff there only? Did you get the information about this
from that Michael Vances book? That I have heard but never seen.
Was the year of birth correct?
Thanks
Timo Ronkainen
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Go sit on cowslip - far from me!"
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Digest #417
Message 208 -
2001-02-20 at 14:57:00
> From: Henri Kunne <HJC.Kunne at net.HCC.nl>
> Subject: Back....and Donald's birthday
> At 12:02 17-2-01 +0100, Don Rosa wrote:
I hope you read closely enough to know that *I* didn't write any of that, I
simply posted a message to the ML sent to me by a Maurice Gilles. I thought
it was a very amusing and interesting bit of work, but don't assume I agree
with much of it for purposes of the comic book Universe.
But if you're wondering why Gilles shows Donald's birthday as that date,
I'm sure he's getting that from an old Disney animated short which said
that Donald was born on Friday the 13th of March. Later somebody somewhere
decided that Donald's birthday is June 9th which is the day in 1934 that
"The Wise Little Hen" was released. And that's the date I was given by the
publishers to use in my Donald's 60th Birthday story in 1994. I was
agreeable since Barks had never said otherwise about his comic-book
Donald... therefore I didn't mind using a bit of data from that Disney
character/actor who has the same name and general physical appearance.
> Subject: Back....and Donald's birthday
> At 12:02 17-2-01 +0100, Don Rosa wrote:
I hope you read closely enough to know that *I* didn't write any of that, I
simply posted a message to the ML sent to me by a Maurice Gilles. I thought
it was a very amusing and interesting bit of work, but don't assume I agree
with much of it for purposes of the comic book Universe.
But if you're wondering why Gilles shows Donald's birthday as that date,
I'm sure he's getting that from an old Disney animated short which said
that Donald was born on Friday the 13th of March. Later somebody somewhere
decided that Donald's birthday is June 9th which is the day in 1934 that
"The Wise Little Hen" was released. And that's the date I was given by the
publishers to use in my Donald's 60th Birthday story in 1994. I was
agreeable since Barks had never said otherwise about his comic-book
Donald... therefore I didn't mind using a bit of data from that Disney
character/actor who has the same name and general physical appearance.
Luca Boschi
About Gil Turner
Message 209 -
2001-02-20 at 15:59:02
Hi, Timo and all!
About Gil Turner...
>
> I read about that in Jack Bradbury-interview. It was until reading that I
> realized that Sangor Shop became ACG.. 8-)
> He did funny animal stuff there only?
If for "funny animals" you mean animals-animals, I'll say, no...
He made also stories with "funny men", for instance the long Little Pancho
Vanilla serial, with a very funny Daddy Toreador. A character created by
him, after the short living Pancho Vanilla movie star (only a short, many
years before). In the early 80s I received a parcel from Jack Bradbury, with
some stories by the marvelous Gil Turner, cut from "Coo Coo", or "Giggle",
or "Ha-Ha" comic books, so I learned something more about the production of
this beloved, quite unknown artist. Assorted animal characters: Bears,
Foxes, Rackety Coons, Roosters... Very, very funny, unknown and well drawn.
You know he come back to animation again, in the 50es; he worked for the
Walter Lantz Studio and for UPA.
> Did you get the information about this
> from that Michael Vances book?
Which book are you talkin' about? It seems to be quite interesting... I read
in a very old "Funnyworld" issue that Mike Barrier (now in this same list -
hello, Mike!) was planning to interview him, among the others, but I don't
know if this thing ever happened. It'd have been Gil's only interview...
> Was the year of birth correct?
Around 1910. You wrote 1914?
Bye (and thanks!),
Luca
About Gil Turner...
>
> I read about that in Jack Bradbury-interview. It was until reading that I
> realized that Sangor Shop became ACG.. 8-)
> He did funny animal stuff there only?
If for "funny animals" you mean animals-animals, I'll say, no...
He made also stories with "funny men", for instance the long Little Pancho
Vanilla serial, with a very funny Daddy Toreador. A character created by
him, after the short living Pancho Vanilla movie star (only a short, many
years before). In the early 80s I received a parcel from Jack Bradbury, with
some stories by the marvelous Gil Turner, cut from "Coo Coo", or "Giggle",
or "Ha-Ha" comic books, so I learned something more about the production of
this beloved, quite unknown artist. Assorted animal characters: Bears,
Foxes, Rackety Coons, Roosters... Very, very funny, unknown and well drawn.
You know he come back to animation again, in the 50es; he worked for the
Walter Lantz Studio and for UPA.
> Did you get the information about this
> from that Michael Vances book?
Which book are you talkin' about? It seems to be quite interesting... I read
in a very old "Funnyworld" issue that Mike Barrier (now in this same list -
hello, Mike!) was planning to interview him, among the others, but I don't
know if this thing ever happened. It'd have been Gil's only interview...
> Was the year of birth correct?
Around 1910. You wrote 1914?
Bye (and thanks!),
Luca
Timo Ronkainen
About Gil Turner
Message 210 -
2001-02-20 at 17:29:03
Hi!
And thanks for the info! Very interesting and fascinating!
> > He did funny animal stuff there only?
>He made also stories with "funny men", for instance the long Little Pancho
>Vanilla serial, [...]
>Assorted animal characters: Bears,
>Foxes, Rackety Coons, Roosters...
Would be very interesting to see some of those! He did nothing more or less
realistic?
>You know he come back to animation again, in the 50es; he worked for the
>Walter Lantz Studio and for UPA.
Yes I did knew. forgot to mention.
>Which book are you talkin' about?
It´s about ACG´s history. Not just Turner. Check:
http://www.starland.com/sus/sus000524.htm
> > Was the year of birth correct?
>
>Around 1910. You wrote 1914?
1911.
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And thanks for the info! Very interesting and fascinating!
> > He did funny animal stuff there only?
>He made also stories with "funny men", for instance the long Little Pancho
>Vanilla serial, [...]
>Assorted animal characters: Bears,
>Foxes, Rackety Coons, Roosters...
Would be very interesting to see some of those! He did nothing more or less
realistic?
>You know he come back to animation again, in the 50es; he worked for the
>Walter Lantz Studio and for UPA.
Yes I did knew. forgot to mention.
>Which book are you talkin' about?
It´s about ACG´s history. Not just Turner. Check:
http://www.starland.com/sus/sus000524.htm
> > Was the year of birth correct?
>
>Around 1910. You wrote 1914?
1911.
Timo Ronkainen
.................................
"Rumble on, buxom bumble bee!
Go sit on cowslip - far from me!"
timoro at hotmail.com
timoro at sunpoint.net
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