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Timo Ronkainen
you can also see:
http://www.pmk.posti.fi/
For some reason there is no information on these stamps in english..

Timo Ronkainen

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"Rumble on, buxom bumble bee!
Go sit on cowslip - far from me!"

timoro at hotmail.com
timoro at sunpoint.net
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Fluks, H.W.
> From: Kenneth Glendinning [mailto:neth80 at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 11:19 AM

> I would like to welcome Thomas Barry to the mailing list I
> hope he gets better treatment than I did.

I'm sure he will! Note the difference in tone between *his* first DCML
message and *yours*:

Thomas:
> Hi everyone
> I'm new on this mailing list.[..]
> I'm waiting forward to hearing from you Duck fans soon

and Kenneth (in digest #384):
> Dose any one here look at other peoples messages I have
> look at most of them and most people get ignored.
> If that is so why do people bother typeing in here.
> Lets just hope some one sees this.

See?

--Harry.
(No, I'm not trying to re-do an old discussion. Just clearing up some
things)
Kenneth Glendinning
This was my first message you where so busy attacking me you did not see it.

Kenneth

Hello I have not been in touch to what is happening with disney comics for a
while can any one tell me when will the new publisher start printing?
The last I heard which was a long time ago now is that Gemstone publishing
was makeing a deal with disney to start printing disney comics again.
Can any one give me a update to what has happend since then?
I guess I will have to be happy with old comics till they start again.

Kenneth
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Fluks, H.W.
> From: Kenneth Glendinning [mailto:neth80 at hotmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 12:04 PM
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Subject: To fluks
>
> This was my first message you where so busy attacking me you
> did not see it.

Yep. Sorry, I missed that one. I stored it on a different archive CD.
And your website *has* improved a lot since the last time I looked.

> Hello

Hello!

--Harry.
Francesco Spreafico
From: "Kenneth Glendinning" <neth80 at hotmail.com>

> This was my first message you where so busy attacking me you did not see
it.

Now will you *please* stop flaming? You're so obviuosly wrong that it
hurts... pass on to another topic, pretty please!

PS: <title>s may contain character entities (for accented characters,
special characters, etc.), but may not contain other markup (including
comments).
Check this out:
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/global.html#edef-TITLE
(The whole W3C reference about HTML4 and CSS 1. If you make a website you
MUST know these specs, no excuses.)

--
Sprea
Thierry Fernand
>I would like to welcome Thomas Barry to the mailing list I hope he gets
>better treatment than I did.
>Kenneth

Hi Kenneth!
I apologise for the bad words I had on your site. I had a wrong first impression.
It's so great to share our Disney comics experiences on this mailing list - I should be burned in
hell.
Your site is GREAT! I love the Daan Jippes drawing (?) on your front page. I love the MM magazine covers.
Sorry everyone for the spam, but I think I had to repair this.

http://www.angelfire.com/ar2/ken2/index.html

Favio
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Teemu.Merikumpu
>I didn't see that poem. I wish I had. But I somehow doubt Unca Carl
>would've advocated Peace At Any Cost.

Peace at any cost? This isn't Kosovo. I wasn't launching NATO operation
to calm down a bloodbath. Those were things (friendship, tolerance, trust
and peace) *I* read from Barks' poem (from between the lines, more or less).

>I haven't really seen anyone picking nits about writing -- just demanding

>that people's writing be sufficiently literate so as to be understood.
Do
>you really think it dishonors Barks' memory to say that a badly-designed

>webpage (whose author shows no interest in learning HTML) is badly-designed?

You can say something is badly designed if it is. In this case I believe
is more of question of inexperience. But that wasn't my point. Look at the
next comment.
I don't know what dishonours Barks' memory and that wasn't my point. I just
hoped to feel some of the warmth on this ML that I felt reading his poem.

And what comes to the understandability of mails I had no problem reading
Kenneth's mail even though my own english is not all that wonderful. So
I don't understand how could you have a problem with it?
We should tolerate less perfect mails here; many of the contributors of
this ML are not native english speakers and their english is not necessarilly
very good. But they still might have lot of interesting things to say.

>There is a distinction between tolerance and silence about substandard

>work. We've had instances of Disney-artist-bashing, and if they aren't

>sacrosanct on this list, why should a mere webpage be above reproach?

And there is a distinction between actual critic and chewing someone's head
off. I'm not advocating silence. That's probably the root of all problems.
And that's why I de-lurked and opened my mouth. What I'm trying to say is
that less aggressive approach usually works better. If it hade been used
in this conversation I wouldn't have to be typing now.

>Wall, Ah dunno if'n Ah agrees witchou, butchou got one parnt -- we don'
need
>no fancy book-larnin' aroun' heah!

You take the words right out of my mouth! Mutc ratter bi riidin duks tan
anatommi & fysialogi.

BTW. I owe an apology to Dan Shane though I didn't mean to make a direct
comment about his answer to Craig. After reading Don Rosa's post on #402
I realised what he was talking about. But without that information it just
looked rude.

And another thing. I don't remember if I have introduced myself on this
list so I'll do it now.

My name is Teemu Merikumpu. I'm finnish and (therefore :-) I like disney
comics. I think my two favourite characters are U$ and DD. Now what else.
I'm a student. I've been reading disney comics since I was 5. I'm not a
collector but just a fan. I read a comic book a couple of times and if I
like I'll save it. If not it'll eventually get lost. I've been lurking on
this list for a year or two now, I guess. The reason I like this list is
that here I can read things about the comics I like and then pick up the
comic that was just discussed and read it again from a different point of
view.
Well, I guess that it. Sorry, that I usually don't have much to contribute
but I'll help if I can.

best wishes to all,
Teemu
An advocate of kind words

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Don Rosa
From: Thomas Barry <thomasbarry2001 at yahoo.co.uk>
>>>Don Rosa: thank you so much for the new LoS episode.
It is one of the greatest LoS chapter story I have
ever read.

Thank you! But where did you see it?

From: "timo ronkainen" <timoro at hotmail.com>
>>>Finnish Post will publish five stamps to celebrate Finnish Aku Ankka?s
50th
anniversary. Stamps features art by Rosa and Barks.

Yes, they just told me about that yesterday! Two of the stamps will be from
my "Kalevala" story, as one might expect. I see the link you provided which
I'm hoping shows the stamps... I'm gonna hurry there for a peek as soon as
I send this off.
By the way, I wonder why Di$ney allowed this? Y'know the story of how the
US Post Office wanted to include Mickey Mouse in their "100th Anniversary
of Comics" series, but Di$ney refused permission unless they received a
stout royalty on the sales of all of the stamps in the government-issue
set. Bless their hearts.

To "Kenneth Glendinning"
Please stop re-quoting other people's *entire* messages in your own --
there's no point in that. It's another "annoying trait". Thanks.
Apostolis Trikourakis
Don Rosa wrote:
> Yes, they just told me about that yesterday! Two of
> the stamps will be from
> my "Kalevala" story, as one might expect. I see the
> link you provided which
> I'm hoping shows the stamps... I'm gonna hurry there
> for a peek as soon as
> I send this off.

That's great! You must be very proud now, don't you?
:)
What they will use as a stamp? the cover of the story
or some panels maybe?
Best Wishes

Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens
E-mail: komix at compulink.gr & komixgreekpage at yahoo.com
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage

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Frank Stajano
At 2001-02-08 17:21 +0100, Marco Barlotti wrote:
>is "be bought" a typo for "we bought" ?

What else?

Frank (filologo disneyano) http://www.uk.research.att.com/~fms/
Anders Christian Sivebaek
I see at least two Rosa-illustrations on those nice
stamps. I shouldn't wonder if Don wont be paid a cent,
even if they publish 100.000 or something of the
stamps? Or maybe again: we're talking finland...
they're mostly nicer, at helsinki media.

?

AC

WElcome to new members and sorry I'm not writing here
so often.

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Anders Christian Sivebaek
acsive at yahoo.com

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Daniel Van Eijmeren
MARCO BARLOTTI, 8 FEBRUARY 2001:

> [Ode to the Disney Ducks] I've always wondered... but never
> got a precise answer... is "be bought" a typo for "we bought" ?

Below you'll see a transciption of a xerox sent to me by a Barks fan.
There are some small differences with the transcription in digest
Vol 1 #402. ("we bought" instead of "be bought"; "scars" instead of
"scar"; and "To read of ducks" instead of "To read ducks")

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Written note (by Carl Barks) in the lower left corner, in an angle
of minus 90 degrees:

So many fans write to say my stories set the pattern for the duck
universe, I tried to write an ode [to] the ducks.

Typewritten:

[Title has a bold larger font, "By Carl Barks" is in an italic font.
I think the font is Times New Roman. All typewritten text is
centered.]

Ode to the Disney Ducks
By Carl Barks

They ride tall ships to the far away,
and see the long ago.
They walk where fabled people trod,
and Yetis trod the snow.

They meet the folks who live on stars,
and find them much like us,
With food and love and happiness the
things they most discuss.

The world is full of clans and cults
abuzz as angry bees,
And Junior Woodchucks snapping jeers
at Littlest Chickadees.

The ducks show us that part of life
is to forgive a slight.
That black eyes given in revenge
keep hatred burning bright.

So when our walks in sun or shade
pass graveyards filled by wars,
It's nice to stop and read of ducks
whose battles leave no scars.

To read of ducks who parody
our vain attempts at glory,
They don't exist, but somehow leave
us glad we bought their story.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Best wishes,

--- Daniel
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Someone sent me a scan of a preliminary pencil drawing to Barks' oil
"Christmas for Shacktown". I think this must be "Gifts For Shacktown"
(75-25) instead, because, as far as I know, this is the only painting
with the Shacktown design.

Interestingly, this layout is in landscape format, while the painting
is in portrait format. It's approximately 16" x 20". The image was made
by pasting 4 separate scans together, thus the fuzziness.

You can find it at:
"http://www.seriesam.com/barks/art_dpr.htm#75-25r"

As this page has become terribly slow (needing a better layout),
you may prefer to go to the large picture directly at:
"http://www.seriesam.com/barks/dpr_shacktown.jpg" (about 355kB)

I was asked the following question:

"Would you have an estimate of the market value of this piece?"

As I don't know anything about the value of original Barks art,
I hope someone can help me out answering this question.

Best wishes,

--- Daniel
Timo Ronkainen
>Re: digest #403 Don Rosa
>Yes, they just told me about that yesterday! By the way, I wonder why
>Di$ney allowed this?

I have no idea. All they say in Finnish Post´s website is that they got the
permission from Disney, and that most of the stamps published around the
world are illegal (?). Maybe D-company gets already enough royalties from
Aku Ankka and other stuff :-?
I guess you didn´t get any money from these, but I hope they´ll send stamps
to you at least..

Timo

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"Rumble on, buxom bumble bee!
Go sit on cowslip - far from me!"

timoro at hotmail.com
timoro at sunpoint.net
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Don Rosa
From: Apostolis Trikourakis <komixgreekpage at yahoo.com>
>>>That's great! You must be very proud now,
What they will use as a stamp?

Parts of panels from the Kalevala story. I was told it was a picture of
Vainemoinen and the scene of the Monster on the Helsinki Cathedral dome
with Donald. But I didn't know anything about these stamps until the same
time you folks did. I just found out yesterday.

From: Anders Christian Sivebaek <acsive at yahoo.com>
>>>I see at least two Rosa-illustrations on those nice
stamps. I shouldn't wonder if Don wont be paid a cent,
even if they publish 100.000 or something of the
stamps? Or maybe again: we're talking finland...
they're mostly nicer, at helsinki media.

Oh, they are VERY nice at Helsinki Media!!!! But no, it's still the same
deal, it's not in HMC's power to change the Disney policy. They can't help
it. Any royalties for the use of my work always go to Disney.
But I think it's enough for me that my stories are so famous in Finland
that the government issued postage stamps of my work in their AKU ANKKA
set. That's fun! Maybe I can get ahold of a batch and sell autographed
first-day-covers or something? I should probably do stuff like that now and
then, but I never think of it, I never want to take the time off from
working on stories to try it.
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