Hi,
the latest issue of the German Donald Duck-Sonderheft contains the story
"The Pied Piper of Duckburgh" (H 89174). From Gladstone's Carl Barks
Library I have the information that Carl Barks scripted and penciled the
first three pages in the 1950s and then put the unfinished story aside.
In the late 1980s, Don Rosa inked the Barks pages and completed the
eight-page story.
I would like to know about the story behind this story: How did this
project come into being? Was there a personal contact between Carl Barks
and Don Rosa? Was the project the idea of an editor? Why didn't Carl
Barks finish the story in the 1950s? How did the story surface again
after more than 40 years?
By the way, is this the only time Carl and Don worked on the same story?
All the best
Sven
Author
Topic: 200204
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Heike Und Sven
The Pied Piper of Duckburgh
Message 151 -
2002-04-16 at 13:17:41
Apostolis Trikourakis
The Pied Piper of Duckburg
Message 152 -
2002-04-16 at 15:49:29
Hi all
Heike und Sven wrote:
> Why didn't Carl Barks finish the story in the 1950s?
I read some years ago that Carl Barks hadn't enough
time to draw all these mice on every panel, so he put
the story aside. I don't know if that's true, it's
just what I know about the story...
> By the way, is this the only time Carl and Don
> worked on the same story?
Don also draw some panels for Carl's "How Green was my
Lettuce" story, if that's what you mean.
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Heike und Sven wrote:
> Why didn't Carl Barks finish the story in the 1950s?
I read some years ago that Carl Barks hadn't enough
time to draw all these mice on every panel, so he put
the story aside. I don't know if that's true, it's
just what I know about the story...
> By the way, is this the only time Carl and Don
> worked on the same story?
Don also draw some panels for Carl's "How Green was my
Lettuce" story, if that's what you mean.
Best Wishes
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Taliaferro heads in Bottaro's stories
Message 153 -
2002-04-16 at 23:07:02
Gilles, Luca:
> The small Donald's
>pictures were glued on the paper by the Mondadori's
>editors (Mario Gentilini, Ambrogio Vergani) in the
>50es before the story's first printing.
Doesn't it appear in several (many?) other stories of
the same period in Italy. I wonder why the Italian
editors did not ask the artist (Bottaro) to draw them
himself.
>Since the story is so beautiful, we choose it to be
>reprinted in one of the last issueos of "I Maestri
>Disney", last year, and for this reason it was
>discovered by the clever French editors, who like
>Bottaro's style very much.
And maybe also Martina? They published quite a few of
his stories lately. I noticed though, when the
dialogues are too violent, they badly soften it. For
instance, I learned that in the first Paperinik story,
Scrooge said to Donald that he "was not even able to
steal a thing from a blind and paralytic deaf-mute".
This was totally censored in the French reprint...
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> The small Donald's
>pictures were glued on the paper by the Mondadori's
>editors (Mario Gentilini, Ambrogio Vergani) in the
>50es before the story's first printing.
Doesn't it appear in several (many?) other stories of
the same period in Italy. I wonder why the Italian
editors did not ask the artist (Bottaro) to draw them
himself.
>Since the story is so beautiful, we choose it to be
>reprinted in one of the last issueos of "I Maestri
>Disney", last year, and for this reason it was
>discovered by the clever French editors, who like
>Bottaro's style very much.
And maybe also Martina? They published quite a few of
his stories lately. I noticed though, when the
dialogues are too violent, they badly soften it. For
instance, I learned that in the first Paperinik story,
Scrooge said to Donald that he "was not even able to
steal a thing from a blind and paralytic deaf-mute".
This was totally censored in the French reprint...
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DCML digest #895
Message 154 -
2002-04-17 at 00:09:35
Don Rosa wrote:
> Are you asking whether Barks ever had funny pictures hanging on background
> walls, or if I copied these *particular* pictures from an old Barks story?
It was the second thing I wanted to know, but since you have answered
both questions that doesn't matter any more :).
> I scribble these pictures as they pop into my head while I'm penciling...
> they are not planned in my scripts. I don't think too hard whether I am
> subconsciously reusing one that I saw once before, but at the time I'm
> thinking they are original, such itty-bitty gags that they are. Of course,
> working for Egmont (rather than when I was doing the stuff for Gladstone),
> it gets *very* difficult to think of a gag for a picture in $crooge's
> office -- there are a thousand little gags that would work if there was a
> "$" (or its equivalent) that could appear in the pic... but I can't put one
> in because someone would remove it and not bother to replace it with a "Kr"
> or a "Mk" or anything else. That explains why many of my older stories in
> Egmont editions show that $crooge seems to like to decorate his office with
> pictures of lumpy, unidentified bags of... peanuts? Rocks? Who knows? And I
> can't put "$"s hovering around what I intend to be a coin. So... you saw
> $crooge chasing a coin and praying before a coin? Some readers might wonder
> why he's so devoted to pingpong balls.
Fortunately we all know what Scrooge is most devoted to - although it
might be possible for him chasing after pingpong balls. Do you know how
expensive they are?!?
> Are you asking whether Barks ever had funny pictures hanging on background
> walls, or if I copied these *particular* pictures from an old Barks story?
It was the second thing I wanted to know, but since you have answered
both questions that doesn't matter any more :).
> I scribble these pictures as they pop into my head while I'm penciling...
> they are not planned in my scripts. I don't think too hard whether I am
> subconsciously reusing one that I saw once before, but at the time I'm
> thinking they are original, such itty-bitty gags that they are. Of course,
> working for Egmont (rather than when I was doing the stuff for Gladstone),
> it gets *very* difficult to think of a gag for a picture in $crooge's
> office -- there are a thousand little gags that would work if there was a
> "$" (or its equivalent) that could appear in the pic... but I can't put one
> in because someone would remove it and not bother to replace it with a "Kr"
> or a "Mk" or anything else. That explains why many of my older stories in
> Egmont editions show that $crooge seems to like to decorate his office with
> pictures of lumpy, unidentified bags of... peanuts? Rocks? Who knows? And I
> can't put "$"s hovering around what I intend to be a coin. So... you saw
> $crooge chasing a coin and praying before a coin? Some readers might wonder
> why he's so devoted to pingpong balls.
Fortunately we all know what Scrooge is most devoted to - although it
might be possible for him chasing after pingpong balls. Do you know how
expensive they are?!?
Francois Willot
COA/Inducks new URL
Message 155 -
2002-04-17 at 12:50:09
The COA/Inducks Disney comics database has a new URL:
http://coa.duckburg.dk
I would like to thank Thomas Pryds Lauritsen, from
Denmark, for hosting the site and configuring the
above URL. Thanks again, Thomas!
This is a good occasion to explain and clarify a few
thing. I call the site "COA/Inducks", but all the data
in the web search it contains is from the Inducks
database, updated nightly, and only from it. The
Inducks search on Per Starback's DCML website uses an
outdated version of the Inducks, from last August, so
only the COA has (for the time being) an up-to-date
version of Inducks.
(Apart for the search engine, the site also has a few
pages with Disney articles I wrote, which are not part
of Inducks of course, and some very short pages on
mathematics as an extra...)
If you have bookmarks or links, it's not necessary to
change them as there is a redirection anyway.
Francois
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http://coa.duckburg.dk
I would like to thank Thomas Pryds Lauritsen, from
Denmark, for hosting the site and configuring the
above URL. Thanks again, Thomas!
This is a good occasion to explain and clarify a few
thing. I call the site "COA/Inducks", but all the data
in the web search it contains is from the Inducks
database, updated nightly, and only from it. The
Inducks search on Per Starback's DCML website uses an
outdated version of the Inducks, from last August, so
only the COA has (for the time being) an up-to-date
version of Inducks.
(Apart for the search engine, the site also has a few
pages with Disney articles I wrote, which are not part
of Inducks of course, and some very short pages on
mathematics as an extra...)
If you have bookmarks or links, it's not necessary to
change them as there is a redirection anyway.
Francois
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DCML digest #897
Message 156 -
2002-04-17 at 14:33:51
> From: Heike und Sven <taeger-troschke at 01019freenet.de>
> Subject: The Pied Piper of Duckburgh
> I would like to know about the story behind this story: How did this
> project come into being?
Bruce Hamilton at Gladstone Comics had those original first three penciled
pages from Barks. He thought it would be interesting if I completed the
story, so he gave me copies of those pages to trace and ink. I had no idea
how Mr. Barks planned to end the story, but I think they told me that it was
originally left uncompleted because Barks decided he "didn't feel like
drawing all those pages of mice and children" -- so whatever the original
ending was, it also involved lots of children doing something.
> Was there a personal contact between Carl Barks and Don Rosa?
Nope.
> By the way, is this the only time Carl and Don worked on the same story?
> From: Apostolis Trikourakis <komixgreekpage at yahoo.com>
> Don also draw some panels for Carl's "How Green was my
> Lettuce" story, if that's what you mean.
That's the same, only different. It was the same in that there was some
missing (rather than never done) panels which Gladstone wanted me to fill
in... it was the same in that no one had any idea what the panels originally
depicted. It was different in that I did not actually ink any traced Barks
pencils.
I also once inked at least one Barks penciled-cover (copy) that was rejected
by Gold Key for the story, um, what was it?... "Lost Beneath the Sea" I
think.
> Subject: The Pied Piper of Duckburgh
> I would like to know about the story behind this story: How did this
> project come into being?
Bruce Hamilton at Gladstone Comics had those original first three penciled
pages from Barks. He thought it would be interesting if I completed the
story, so he gave me copies of those pages to trace and ink. I had no idea
how Mr. Barks planned to end the story, but I think they told me that it was
originally left uncompleted because Barks decided he "didn't feel like
drawing all those pages of mice and children" -- so whatever the original
ending was, it also involved lots of children doing something.
> Was there a personal contact between Carl Barks and Don Rosa?
Nope.
> By the way, is this the only time Carl and Don worked on the same story?
> From: Apostolis Trikourakis <komixgreekpage at yahoo.com>
> Don also draw some panels for Carl's "How Green was my
> Lettuce" story, if that's what you mean.
That's the same, only different. It was the same in that there was some
missing (rather than never done) panels which Gladstone wanted me to fill
in... it was the same in that no one had any idea what the panels originally
depicted. It was different in that I did not actually ink any traced Barks
pencils.
I also once inked at least one Barks penciled-cover (copy) that was rejected
by Gold Key for the story, um, what was it?... "Lost Beneath the Sea" I
think.
Sue And Gary Leach
DCML digest, Vol 1 #897 - 5 msgs
Message 157 -
2002-04-18 at 00:42:28
Re "Pied Piper of Duckburg":
> I would like to know about the story behind this story: How did this
> project come into being?
This unfinished story was well known to Barks devotees, and the extant Barks
material was always intended to be published in the original CBL. I'm pretty
sure Bruce Hamilton, the Another Rainbow/Gladstone publisher, was the one
who was first struck with the idea of having Don Rosa make something of the
fragment for comic book publication.
> Why didn't Carl Barks finish the story in the 1950s?
See CBL Set VI, volume II, page 375. It was about the time and the money,
basically.
> By the way, is this the only time Carl and Don worked on the same story?
I wonder if we can really call what Carl did and Don did the same story. Not
only are their individual efforts separated by a considerable amount of
time, but Don developed a story of his own out of something that Carl had
abandoned before he'd made it clear where he expected to go.
Of keenest interest to me is the shift of artistic sensibility from page 3
to page 4, from Don-over-Carl to pure Don. It's somewhat suggestive of "What
If Carl Barks Had Hired Don Rosa as His Assistant", where the assistant
starts out on finishes and eventually takes over the full art chores ? only
in this case there's no waiting to see what sort of individual style the
assistant would develop.
Gary
> I would like to know about the story behind this story: How did this
> project come into being?
This unfinished story was well known to Barks devotees, and the extant Barks
material was always intended to be published in the original CBL. I'm pretty
sure Bruce Hamilton, the Another Rainbow/Gladstone publisher, was the one
who was first struck with the idea of having Don Rosa make something of the
fragment for comic book publication.
> Why didn't Carl Barks finish the story in the 1950s?
See CBL Set VI, volume II, page 375. It was about the time and the money,
basically.
> By the way, is this the only time Carl and Don worked on the same story?
I wonder if we can really call what Carl did and Don did the same story. Not
only are their individual efforts separated by a considerable amount of
time, but Don developed a story of his own out of something that Carl had
abandoned before he'd made it clear where he expected to go.
Of keenest interest to me is the shift of artistic sensibility from page 3
to page 4, from Don-over-Carl to pure Don. It's somewhat suggestive of "What
If Carl Barks Had Hired Don Rosa as His Assistant", where the assistant
starts out on finishes and eventually takes over the full art chores ? only
in this case there's no waiting to see what sort of individual style the
assistant would develop.
Gary
Fluks, H.W.
Pied Piper
Message 158 -
2002-04-18 at 10:51:19
Gary:
> I'm pretty
> sure Bruce Hamilton, the Another Rainbow/Gladstone publisher,
> was the one
> who was first struck with the idea of having Don Rosa make
> something of the fragment for comic book publication.
A Dutch fanzine reports that Daan Jippes has been working on an "8-page Gyro
story based on a Barks script". This must have been around 1986, the time
that Jippes was Gladstone's regular cover artist. So my theory is that
Hamilton asked Jippes to finish the Piper story. Jippes started doing that,
but never finished it (Jippes often starts things without finishing
them...). So finally, Hamilton asked Rosa to do the job in stead.
Don once told us here that he didn't know anything of a Jippes version of
this story. Maybe you know about it, Gary?
And one more detail: the Rosa version of the Pied Piper story was paid by
the Dutch publishers (and therefore has a code starting with H). Probably
because Gladstone wasn't in the position anymore to pay for newly made
stories when Don finished the story.
--Harry.
> I'm pretty
> sure Bruce Hamilton, the Another Rainbow/Gladstone publisher,
> was the one
> who was first struck with the idea of having Don Rosa make
> something of the fragment for comic book publication.
A Dutch fanzine reports that Daan Jippes has been working on an "8-page Gyro
story based on a Barks script". This must have been around 1986, the time
that Jippes was Gladstone's regular cover artist. So my theory is that
Hamilton asked Jippes to finish the Piper story. Jippes started doing that,
but never finished it (Jippes often starts things without finishing
them...). So finally, Hamilton asked Rosa to do the job in stead.
Don once told us here that he didn't know anything of a Jippes version of
this story. Maybe you know about it, Gary?
And one more detail: the Rosa version of the Pied Piper story was paid by
the Dutch publishers (and therefore has a code starting with H). Probably
because Gladstone wasn't in the position anymore to pay for newly made
stories when Don finished the story.
--Harry.
Apostolis Trikourakis
KOMIX #165 & #166
Message 159 -
2002-04-18 at 14:22:39
Hi all
Here's what's in the last two months issues of Komix:
Issue #165, March 2002, ?2,65
* Cover from Michel Nadorp. No reason to scan it...
* A two-page letters column about Carl Barks Legacy,
Euros, Artists, Walt Disney and other.
* A three-page column with "Komix News" about first
Oscar Award for a cartoon, Torino's exposition, new
Disneyland's theme on France, Internet Comics, Gold
Rush, Manga Comics and other.
* Giorgio Cavazzano's "L' Uomo dei Paperi", 21 pages,
with Carl Barks as the main character! :-) Code: I TL
1919-C
* A three-page article titled "Carl Barks in Italy",
subtitled "An American in the country of Dantes".
* Massimo De Vita's "L'Imperatore d'America", 8 pages,
sequel of Barks' "The Golden Helmet" story. Code: I TD
18-2
[Both stories are part of a Carl Barks Book titled
"L'Uomo di Paperi"]
* Vicar's "Euro-Go-Round", first published on...
Komix! 12 pages. Code: D 2001-085. Story about Euro
:-)
* Sergio Aragones' "Groo & Rufferto", part 3 of 4...
Issue #166, April 2002, ?2,65
* Cover by... who knows...
* A two-page letters column about hidden details on
Aragones' "Space Circus", Carl Barks and other.
* A two-page column with "Komix News" about new Peter
Pan's story, Corto Maltese, new Spiderman's movie,
Herge's exposition in Belgium and other.
* Don Rosa's "Attaaaaaack!", 12 pages, code: F PM
00201 C. The last page is has been misprinted to all
issues: in the last 5 panels, the colors have been
"shaked" a little bit... :-( The rest of the story is
superb :-)
* A two-page article titled "Bin's Blueprints",
subtitled "Attention! Do not show this issue to Beagle
Boys" :-) The article includes Don's blueprints of the
money bin.
* Fabio Celoni's "Torna a Casa, Paperino!", 26 pages,
code: I TL 2084-2
* A two-page article titled "The Brilliant Gyro
Gearloose", subtitled "50 years of inventions... The
Chronicles of a Barksian hero". The article includes
black/white pro-scetches of Don's "Gyro's First
Invention" new story!
* Carl Barks' "Krankenstein Gyro", 4 pages, code: W US
26-02
* Sergio Aragones' "Groo & Rufferto", part 4 of 4...
May's issue is dedicated to the 70th birthday of Goofy
with 3 stories by Romano Scarpa, Paul Murry and Hector
Adolfo de Urtiaga, plus a story by Carl Barks.
[Codes are from Inducks database]
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Here's what's in the last two months issues of Komix:
Issue #165, March 2002, ?2,65
* Cover from Michel Nadorp. No reason to scan it...
* A two-page letters column about Carl Barks Legacy,
Euros, Artists, Walt Disney and other.
* A three-page column with "Komix News" about first
Oscar Award for a cartoon, Torino's exposition, new
Disneyland's theme on France, Internet Comics, Gold
Rush, Manga Comics and other.
* Giorgio Cavazzano's "L' Uomo dei Paperi", 21 pages,
with Carl Barks as the main character! :-) Code: I TL
1919-C
* A three-page article titled "Carl Barks in Italy",
subtitled "An American in the country of Dantes".
* Massimo De Vita's "L'Imperatore d'America", 8 pages,
sequel of Barks' "The Golden Helmet" story. Code: I TD
18-2
[Both stories are part of a Carl Barks Book titled
"L'Uomo di Paperi"]
* Vicar's "Euro-Go-Round", first published on...
Komix! 12 pages. Code: D 2001-085. Story about Euro
:-)
* Sergio Aragones' "Groo & Rufferto", part 3 of 4...
Issue #166, April 2002, ?2,65
* Cover by... who knows...
* A two-page letters column about hidden details on
Aragones' "Space Circus", Carl Barks and other.
* A two-page column with "Komix News" about new Peter
Pan's story, Corto Maltese, new Spiderman's movie,
Herge's exposition in Belgium and other.
* Don Rosa's "Attaaaaaack!", 12 pages, code: F PM
00201 C. The last page is has been misprinted to all
issues: in the last 5 panels, the colors have been
"shaked" a little bit... :-( The rest of the story is
superb :-)
* A two-page article titled "Bin's Blueprints",
subtitled "Attention! Do not show this issue to Beagle
Boys" :-) The article includes Don's blueprints of the
money bin.
* Fabio Celoni's "Torna a Casa, Paperino!", 26 pages,
code: I TL 2084-2
* A two-page article titled "The Brilliant Gyro
Gearloose", subtitled "50 years of inventions... The
Chronicles of a Barksian hero". The article includes
black/white pro-scetches of Don's "Gyro's First
Invention" new story!
* Carl Barks' "Krankenstein Gyro", 4 pages, code: W US
26-02
* Sergio Aragones' "Groo & Rufferto", part 4 of 4...
May's issue is dedicated to the 70th birthday of Goofy
with 3 stories by Romano Scarpa, Paul Murry and Hector
Adolfo de Urtiaga, plus a story by Carl Barks.
[Codes are from Inducks database]
Best Wishes
=====
Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens, Greece
E-mail: komixgreekpage at yahoo.com
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Message 160 -
2002-04-18 at 15:13:28
>* Vicar's "Euro-Go-Round", first published on...
>Komix! 12 pages. Code: D 2001-085. Story about Euro
>:-)
This was published in Finnish Aku Ankka January 2nd, in n:o 1.
Timo
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>Komix! 12 pages. Code: D 2001-085. Story about Euro
>:-)
This was published in Finnish Aku Ankka January 2nd, in n:o 1.
Timo
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Piper story
Message 161 -
2002-04-18 at 16:38:22
Since I read the story one thing has been bugging me.
On page 2 panel 4 gyro reads helpers instructions and
a bridge is shown. Later when gyro's on the bridge it
doesn't look same. Is it the same, if not, why not.
Jyri
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On page 2 panel 4 gyro reads helpers instructions and
a bridge is shown. Later when gyro's on the bridge it
doesn't look same. Is it the same, if not, why not.
Jyri
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And once again the Pied Piper
Message 162 -
2002-04-18 at 18:47:10
Someone already mentioned that the Pied Piper story has been published in the
newest issue of the German "Donald Duck Sonderheft".
What I am really wondering about is that all the bubbles seem to have
been redrawn by somebody (between the version in the Barks' Library
and the one in the "DD Sonderheft"). Their sizes have been changed and
some of them have even moved to another corner of the panel.
But why would someone do that? Is there some mysterious reason behind
this?
Greetings,
Arne Voigtmann.
newest issue of the German "Donald Duck Sonderheft".
What I am really wondering about is that all the bubbles seem to have
been redrawn by somebody (between the version in the Barks' Library
and the one in the "DD Sonderheft"). Their sizes have been changed and
some of them have even moved to another corner of the panel.
But why would someone do that? Is there some mysterious reason behind
this?
Greetings,
Arne Voigtmann.
Olaf Solstrand
Danish story codes
Message 163 -
2002-04-19 at 05:26:08
Can anyone tell me the difference between a D-code, a D/D-code, a D/E-code
etcetera?
Until two minutes ago, I thought my story had story code D 2001-013. It
doesn't - it's D/D 2001-013. I'm curious what this means.
Olaf the Blue
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etcetera?
Until two minutes ago, I thought my story had story code D 2001-013. It
doesn't - it's D/D 2001-013. I'm curious what this means.
Olaf the Blue
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Sue And Gary Leach
DCML digest, Vol 1 #898 - 3 msgs
Message 164 -
2002-04-19 at 05:28:40
Harry:
> So my theory is that
> Hamilton asked Jippes to finish the Piper story. Jippes started doing that,
> but never finished it?
I began working for Another Rainbow/Gladstone in mid-July of 1986, so I
couldn't say whether your theory is valid or not, but it would have been
rather early in the Gladstone game for Bruce to have approached Jippes about
a project like this.
Gary
> So my theory is that
> Hamilton asked Jippes to finish the Piper story. Jippes started doing that,
> but never finished it?
I began working for Another Rainbow/Gladstone in mid-July of 1986, so I
couldn't say whether your theory is valid or not, but it would have been
rather early in the Gladstone game for Bruce to have approached Jippes about
a project like this.
Gary
Olaf Solstrand
Pied Piper
Message 165 -
2002-04-19 at 08:28:00
>Bruce Hamilton at Gladstone Comics had those original first three
>penciled pages from Barks. He thought it would be interesting if I
>completed the story, so he gave me copies of those pages to trace
>and ink. I had no idea how Mr. Barks planned to end the story, but
>I think they told me that it was originally left uncompleted because
>Barks decided he "didn't feel like drawing all those pages of mice
>and children" -- so whatever the original ending was, it also
>involved lots of children doing something.
I don't know about you, but to me, this sounds like a funny gag to that
Hameln-magic-flute-player-tale, where the flute player (flutist?) uses his
magic flute to get all the rats out of Hameln, and when the town does not
pay him, he starts playing his flute to get the children out of Hameln
instead. After all, Gyro _was_ finding a way to get rid of rats (mice?) in
this story, and he used the same technique as the flutist - he tricked the
rats into following him - out of the city - to then blow up the bridge (I
think the Hameln guy did this? There _must_ be someone here that knows this
story better than me... what is that, is it Grimm?) I also get relations to
this from the title, and from what Gyro was singing on page 3. That's a
theory.
Olaf the Blue
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>penciled pages from Barks. He thought it would be interesting if I
>completed the story, so he gave me copies of those pages to trace
>and ink. I had no idea how Mr. Barks planned to end the story, but
>I think they told me that it was originally left uncompleted because
>Barks decided he "didn't feel like drawing all those pages of mice
>and children" -- so whatever the original ending was, it also
>involved lots of children doing something.
I don't know about you, but to me, this sounds like a funny gag to that
Hameln-magic-flute-player-tale, where the flute player (flutist?) uses his
magic flute to get all the rats out of Hameln, and when the town does not
pay him, he starts playing his flute to get the children out of Hameln
instead. After all, Gyro _was_ finding a way to get rid of rats (mice?) in
this story, and he used the same technique as the flutist - he tricked the
rats into following him - out of the city - to then blow up the bridge (I
think the Hameln guy did this? There _must_ be someone here that knows this
story better than me... what is that, is it Grimm?) I also get relations to
this from the title, and from what Gyro was singing on page 3. That's a
theory.
Olaf the Blue
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