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Rob Klein
Regarding Dave Rawson's comment that the current creator should not be
constrained by a previously defined setting: I agree, totally. Whatever is
required for the story being created should be available (so long as it does
not make the characters in their milieu unrecogniseable). The creative spirit
is restrained when the "creator" is slavishly constrained to only a defined
closed set of tools and rules. I was only making the point that a different-
looking bridge was likely to have been a different bridge (with historical
precedent for the likelihood of the different bridges existing). I believe
there is room for many artists changing Duckburg from story to story, as needed
for innovation; as well as room for others to keep their Duckburgs consistant
within the universe they have chosen for the stories they create. - Rob
Klein

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Luca Faccioli
Hi all,

After 7 (seven ...) years since the acceptation from Disney Italia of one of my story, the Company finally decided to publish it two months ago !

But unfortunately I missed this issue because the script hasn' t been printed in the more common "Topolino Libretto" ( I receive all the copies in my mailbox as subscriber ) but in "Paperino Mese" .

As I have only 3 stories published in Italy from 1996 can some italian fellow help me sending a copy of that Comic ?

I will obviously reward him satisfyng some Comic request from his side!

The story is :

"Zio Paperone e il torrone monetario " 30 pages
published in "Paperino mese" n. 260 - 1 february 2002
art and ink by Giulio Chierchini.

Thank you again,

Luca Faccioli, Bologna, Italy
Luca Faccioli
Hallo everybody,

Can someone help me in searching the new address of the Don' Money Bin blueprint ?

I put it time ago in my favourites (and I have also printed it to be sure not to loose ...) but now I have to send it by E-mail to a friend and, when I click inside the address, it appears a messagge explaining to look somewhere else because the URL is no more correct.

Thanks you in advance (and congratulations again to Don for his sharp and very detailed work! )

By,

Luca Faccioli, Bologna, Italy
Dan Shane
LUCA WROTE:

Can someone help me in searching the new address of the Don' Money Bin
blueprint ?

I put it time ago in my favourites (and I have also printed it to be sure
not to loose ...) but now I have to send it by E-mail to a friend and, when
I click inside the address, it appears a message explaining to look
somewhere else because the URL is no more correct.

Thanks you in advance (and congratulations again to Don for his sharp and
very detailed work! )

AND I REPLY:

Don certainly deserves the lion's share of the credit for the blueprints, as
they were his idea for his story, and the basic layouts were sketched out by
Don. However, it was I that performed the actual drawing and lettering (in
4 languages, at least), and I contributed many of the gags. The blueprints
were definitely a team effort, one of the very few that Don has ever felt he
needed beyond the editorial process that Byron Erickson and others perform.
Fluks, H.W.
Luca Faccioli:

> Can someone help me in searching the new address of the Don'
> Money Bin blueprint ?

There was no new address: I simply removed the blueprint scans from my
website because I didn't have the space for them anymore.

But now I have more space (thanks to Soeren), so I put the scans (maybe
temporarily) on this address:
http://www.inducks.org/bolderbast/homage/homage.html

--Harry.
Jgarvin
Rob wrote:
--I believe there is room for many artists changing Duckburg from story
to story, as needed
for innovation--

I wonder how many on the list *really* believe this? Take recognised
landmarks, for instance, like Scrooge's moneybin. If I wrote a story
that had it placed in the middle of Duckburg Swamp (instead of on top of
Killmotar hill) because Scrooge built it there in 1918 to save money, do
you really think that readers would just accept this? What if my next
story placed it in the middle of the Duckburg Desert? I think the
readers expect a certain amount of continuity, though of course they
will tolerate the money bin being destroyed in one story, just so long
as it is rebuilt by the next.
Michael Schartau
In a newsflash I read that Toy Story has in an BBC survey been voted the best Disney movie ever.
Do You agree? And wath abot the sequence?
/ Michael
Kriton Kyrimis
JGARVIN:

> If I wrote a story
> that had it placed in the middle of Duckburg Swamp (instead of on top of
> Killmotor hill)

Hmmm.... Killmotor Hill? The hill on which the money bin was shown
at the beginning of Barks' story "The Big Bin on Killmotor Hill"? The
story where Barks had Scrooge move the bin to a valley, then the top of
a mountain, then finally had him put it on treads, so that he could move
it anywhere he liked? I'd say that having the bin appear in the middle
of Duckburg swamp or Duckburg desert, as you mentioned, would preserve
Barks' continuity just fine!!!

Speaking of "The Big Bin on Killmotor Hill", which I re-read recently,
it would seem that it quite contradicts Don's Money Bin story: In the
beginning of the story, Donald shows the kids Uncle Scrooge's *new*
money bin, so this can't have been the building built by Frank Lloyd
Drake in the 1920s. (One might argue that the story takes place in the
1920s, but as Donald mentions that the new bin is protected by radar, the
story can't have taken place before WW II, when radar was invented.) The
original money bin must have been the one which was destroyed at the
end of the first Beagle Boy story, which looked like a safe, complete
with a combination lock decoration on the facade!

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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Kriton Kyrimis
ME:

> The original money bin must have been the one which was destroyed at the
> end of the first Beagle Boy story, which looked like a safe, complete
> with a combination lock decoration on the facade!

Actually, the money bin that looked like a safe was shown in another
story, the one where they had filled the bin with water, to flood out
the Beagle Boys who had been intending to dig their way from below,
where Scrooge had not bothered to build a thick floor, to save on
concrete. The money bin was destroyed in that story, when the water
froze. The Beagle Boys were shown trying to chip coins off the ice,
so they must have known that Scrooge's safe was not the one built by
F. L. Drake. This is another contradiction with Don's story!

In that story, Scrooge mentioned that the walls of the bin were ten
feet thick, which probably answers my question whether a money bin
with straight sides could withstand the pressure of all those coins.
(Of course, Scrooge could have made the sides thinner at the top, saving
enough concrete to build a Beagle-proof floor. Serves him right for not
having done so!)

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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Sanna Rosenvall
I found one Estonian Disney comic magazine in a used-book store here in
Finland. It is "Miki Hiir" issue 1/1996. Now I would be interested in to get
some information about Estonian Disney comic magazines. I would like to know
what Disney comic magazines (those with Duck and Mouse stories) are/have
been published in Estonian and when? Could anyone on the list help me? Thank
you!:)

Sanna Rosenvall

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Francesco Spreafico
Sanna Rosenvall wrote:

> I would like to know what Disney comic magazines (those with Duck and
> Mouse stories) are/have been published in Estonian and when? Could
> anyone on the list help me? Thank you!:)

I think you can find some information in the inducks database:
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/magazine.php/0/ee/MH even though it's
definitely only a little part of the Estonian editions!

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Francesco
S.Schmaelzle
Hello,

I realize that this list is about Disney comics, not Disney animation, but
this may be of interest for many of you: There is a digital version of the
legendary "Der Fuehrer's Face" available on the web; it is encoded in RealMovie
format (requires RealPlayer 8.0 or better, which is available for free at
http://www.real.com) and 37 megabytes large, it has very good quality; the URL
is:
http://mitglied.lycos.de/hazzapallo/dff.rm
I don't know how long it lasts; good luck.

Frau Schm?lzle

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S.Schmaelzle
Hello,

I realize that this list is about Disney comics, not Disney animation, but
this may be of interest for many of you: There is a digital version of the
legendary "Der Fuehrer's Face" available on the web; it is encoded in RealMovie
format (requires RealPlayer 8.0 or better, which is available for free at
http://www.real.com) and 37 megabytes large, it has very good quality; the URL
is:
http://mitglied.lycos.de/hazzapallo/dff.rm
I don't know how long it lasts; good luck.

Frau Schm?lzle

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Timo Ronkainen
>Sanna Rosenvall wrote:
> > I would like to know Estonian .....
>Francesco replied:
>I think you can find some information in the inducks database....

You can also check Arthur De Wolf's wonderful Disney Comics Worldwide -page:
http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw/
direct link to Estonian section:
http://www.wolfstad.com/dcw/country.asp?countryid=21

Timo

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Oyvind J. Karstad
J. Garvin:
> If I wrote a story that had it placed in the middle
> of Duckburg Swamp (instead of on top of Killmotar hill)
> because Scrooge built it there in 1918 to save money,
> do you really think that readers would just accept this?

Carl Barks himself actually did similiar things all the time.

I find this lack of continuity quite irritating.
It's particulary evident if you read both "Danish" and Italian stories.

Michael:
> In a newsflash I read that Toy Story has in an BBC survey
> been voted the best Disney movie ever.
>
> Do You agree? And wath abot the sequence?

You mean the sequel?
I think it was excellent, but I'm not sure which one I prefer.
I agree that these movies are some of Disney's best.
I think my favourite is The Emperor's New Groove.

Oyvind
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