The Norwegian Museum of Science & Technology has a 1919 Milburn Electric automobile. Their website suggests that Grandma Duck's car was patterned after this line of vehicles, and I am interested in whether this may be true.
The Milburn Electric automobile was steered by a tiller, as well as using a tiller to control its speed. It had batteries both front and back, covered by latched hoods. It had a bud vase on each side for flowers. The front and rear windows lowered, as well as the door windows.
My recollection of Grandma Duck's car is weak, but this link seems like a possible. Does anyone have (or recall) a strip with her car, and what the features might have been, or know of its inspiration?
George
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George Milburn
Grandma Duck's car
Message 1 -
2002-07-01 at 04:21:36
Halsten Aastebol
Grandma Duck's car
Message 2 -
2002-07-01 at 10:44:57
At 21:21 30.06.02 -0400, George Milburn wrote:
>The Norwegian Museum of Science & Technology has a 1919 Milburn Electric
>automobile. Their website suggests that Grandma Duck's car was patterned
>after this line of vehicles, and I am interested in whether this may be true.
A one shot magazine called "Duckmobiles" published by ducks fans in
Trondheim, Norway in 1991 claims that Grandma's car was a Detroit Electric.
I don't which is true.
Regards
Halsten
>The Norwegian Museum of Science & Technology has a 1919 Milburn Electric
>automobile. Their website suggests that Grandma Duck's car was patterned
>after this line of vehicles, and I am interested in whether this may be true.
A one shot magazine called "Duckmobiles" published by ducks fans in
Trondheim, Norway in 1991 claims that Grandma's car was a Detroit Electric.
I don't which is true.
Regards
Halsten
H.W.Fluks
Darkest Africa's (other) Artist(s)
Message 3 -
2002-07-01 at 10:46:10
Luca:
> Subject: Re: Darkest Africa's (other) Artist(s)
> I also got the news about Daan, but... it couldn't be alla
> made by himself!
The re-inking was indeed finished by Dick Vlottes (who fortunately had a
very short carreer at Disney comics).
> So, it's not made expecially for the USA publications. It
> seems to be made
> for the Dutch DD and later reprinted in USA...
Right. The Dutch version is from 1982. It misses one panel of the original
(too stereotyped cannibals close-up). The USA version was even more
censored: the remaining cannibals had their mouths redrawn.
This USA version has been used afterwards in Europe (except Holland), so
Italy probably uses that same redrawn, censored, re-censored version.
--Harry.
(www.inducks.org)
> Subject: Re: Darkest Africa's (other) Artist(s)
> I also got the news about Daan, but... it couldn't be alla
> made by himself!
The re-inking was indeed finished by Dick Vlottes (who fortunately had a
very short carreer at Disney comics).
> So, it's not made expecially for the USA publications. It
> seems to be made
> for the Dutch DD and later reprinted in USA...
Right. The Dutch version is from 1982. It misses one panel of the original
(too stereotyped cannibals close-up). The USA version was even more
censored: the remaining cannibals had their mouths redrawn.
This USA version has been used afterwards in Europe (except Holland), so
Italy probably uses that same redrawn, censored, re-censored version.
--Harry.
(www.inducks.org)
Timo Ronkainen
Grandma Duck's car
Message 4 -
2002-07-01 at 10:50:36
>George Milburn:
>>1919 Milburn Electric
>>automobile. Their website suggests that Grandma Duck's car was patterned
Halsten Aastebol:
>Trondheim, Norway in 1991 claims that Grandma's car was a Detroit Electric.
Detroit electric is most often mentioned with Grandma Duck's car. They look
a like too. I don't know about Milburn Electric. Is there any pic's on web?
Grandma's car on Gilles Maurice's great page:
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/cars/grandma.html
Timo
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>>1919 Milburn Electric
>>automobile. Their website suggests that Grandma Duck's car was patterned
Halsten Aastebol:
>Trondheim, Norway in 1991 claims that Grandma's car was a Detroit Electric.
Detroit electric is most often mentioned with Grandma Duck's car. They look
a like too. I don't know about Milburn Electric. Is there any pic's on web?
Grandma's car on Gilles Maurice's great page:
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/cars/grandma.html
Timo
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Questions for my Dutch friends
Message 5 -
2002-07-01 at 12:21:40
I need the Dutch names for the following characters:
a) Jos? Carioca
(from "The Three Caballeros Ride Again")
b) Panchito Pistoles
(from "The Three Caballeros Ride Again")
c) Scottie McTerrier
(from Lo$-IX -"The Billionaire of the Dismal Downs")
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a) Jos? Carioca
(from "The Three Caballeros Ride Again")
b) Panchito Pistoles
(from "The Three Caballeros Ride Again")
c) Scottie McTerrier
(from Lo$-IX -"The Billionaire of the Dismal Downs")
Best regards from
Sigvald :-)
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Questions for my Italian friends
Message 6 -
2002-07-01 at 12:22:13
I need the Italian names for the following characters:
a) Jos? Carioca
(from "The Three Caballeros Ride Again")
b) Panchito Pistoles
(from "The Three Caballeros Ride Again")
c) Scottie McTerrier
(from Lo$-IX -"The Billionaire of the Dismal Downs")
Best regards from
Sigvald :-)
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a) Jos? Carioca
(from "The Three Caballeros Ride Again")
b) Panchito Pistoles
(from "The Three Caballeros Ride Again")
c) Scottie McTerrier
(from Lo$-IX -"The Billionaire of the Dismal Downs")
Best regards from
Sigvald :-)
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Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Scottie McTerrier
Message 7 -
2002-07-01 at 12:23:43
I need the Swedish and Portuguese name for Scottie
McTerrier
(from Lo$-IX -"The Billionaire of the Dismal Downs")
Best regards from
Sigvald :-)
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McTerrier
(from Lo$-IX -"The Billionaire of the Dismal Downs")
Best regards from
Sigvald :-)
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Frank Bubacz
Grandma's car
Message 8 -
2002-07-01 at 13:04:20
Here's a nice drawing of a Milburn Electric:
http://www.ece.msstate.edu/~jwbruce/EVads/Milburn.jpg
I don't want to decide if Grandma's car is a Detroit or a Milburn.
Frank
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I don't want to decide if Grandma's car is a Detroit or a Milburn.
Frank
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Archontis Pantsios
MIKY MAOUS & KLASIKA
Message 9 -
2002-07-01 at 13:26:07
Fellow Quackeroos:
Here's what hit the Greek stands last week:
1) MIKY MAOUS #1875, June 21, 2002 (100 pages; cover price: 1.20 euro)
a) Mickey Mouse in "Il diamante rosa", from "Topolino" #2239, 1998 (26
pages). Script & art: Davide Cesarello
b) Donald Duck in "The Wishing Ring", 24 pages. Story code: unknown. Script:
Jerry Siegel; Art: Tiberio Colantuoni
c) Gyro Gearloose in "L' aria di progresso", from "Topolino" #2288, 1999 (14
pages). Script: Stefano Ambrosio; Art: Claudio Panarese
d) The Beagle Boys in "Crime Can Pay", D-3503, 10 pages. Script: The Disney
Studio; Art: Antonio Gil-Bao
2) KLASIKA #173, June-July 2002 (164 pages; cover price: 1.75 euro)
a) Donald Duck in "Paperino... Anno 2001", from "Topolino" #309, 1961 (39
pages). Script: Attilio Mazzanti; Art: Luciano Gatto (Note: The original
publication had 40 pages; the introduction is re-drawn by Giuseppe Perego).
b) Mickey Mouse in "La gratitudine stellare", from "Topolino" #1216, 1979
(35 pages). Script: Guido Martina; Art: Massimo De Vita
c) Uncle Scrooge in "I segreti del vento", from "Topolino" #887, 1972 (38
pages). Script: Rodolfo Cimino; Art: Giorgio Bordini
d) Gyro Gearloose in "For a Dishful of Dollars", 19 pages. Story code and
creators unknown.
e) Clarabell Cow in "Surprise Picnic", S-75152, 15 pages. Script: C.
Fallberg; Art: Owen
"Til next time,
Archontis
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Assistant Academic Dean & Professor of Economics
The American College of Thessaloniki
Thessaloniki--GREECE
Phone #: +30-310-398228
Here's what hit the Greek stands last week:
1) MIKY MAOUS #1875, June 21, 2002 (100 pages; cover price: 1.20 euro)
a) Mickey Mouse in "Il diamante rosa", from "Topolino" #2239, 1998 (26
pages). Script & art: Davide Cesarello
b) Donald Duck in "The Wishing Ring", 24 pages. Story code: unknown. Script:
Jerry Siegel; Art: Tiberio Colantuoni
c) Gyro Gearloose in "L' aria di progresso", from "Topolino" #2288, 1999 (14
pages). Script: Stefano Ambrosio; Art: Claudio Panarese
d) The Beagle Boys in "Crime Can Pay", D-3503, 10 pages. Script: The Disney
Studio; Art: Antonio Gil-Bao
2) KLASIKA #173, June-July 2002 (164 pages; cover price: 1.75 euro)
a) Donald Duck in "Paperino... Anno 2001", from "Topolino" #309, 1961 (39
pages). Script: Attilio Mazzanti; Art: Luciano Gatto (Note: The original
publication had 40 pages; the introduction is re-drawn by Giuseppe Perego).
b) Mickey Mouse in "La gratitudine stellare", from "Topolino" #1216, 1979
(35 pages). Script: Guido Martina; Art: Massimo De Vita
c) Uncle Scrooge in "I segreti del vento", from "Topolino" #887, 1972 (38
pages). Script: Rodolfo Cimino; Art: Giorgio Bordini
d) Gyro Gearloose in "For a Dishful of Dollars", 19 pages. Story code and
creators unknown.
e) Clarabell Cow in "Surprise Picnic", S-75152, 15 pages. Script: C.
Fallberg; Art: Owen
"Til next time,
Archontis
--------------------------------------------------
Archontis L. Pantsios, Ph.D.
Assistant Academic Dean & Professor of Economics
The American College of Thessaloniki
Thessaloniki--GREECE
Phone #: +30-310-398228
Lunnan & Hjort
Don Rosa to Norway in September
Message 10 -
2002-07-01 at 13:53:56
As I don't have time to fully scrutinise all DCML digests I don't know
whether this has been mentioned already, but I did search for "Raptus"
through DCML June without finding it. Therefore:
Don Rosa is among his year's "invited artists" for the annual "Raptus
Festival" in Bergen. This comics festival derives its inspiring and
inspired name from "Raptus von Rupp", who is Ludwig von Drake.
It takes place in Grieghallen, the Grieg hall, which derives its equally
inspired and inspiring name from the composer who lived from 1843
to 1907, which is easy to remember since Johannes Brahms lived
from 1833 to 1897. The dates (for the festival, not Brahms' life, which
as we know started on May 7) are Friday to Sunday September 13-15.
It's not fully clear to me, or to Don, what is actually required of him
as an "invited artist" at this festival, but we'll learn in time. He will
spend a day or so in Oslo before going on to Bergen. There are plans
for combining his Raptus Festival presence with a book signing event,
featuring his two hardcover books "The Don Rosa Archives I & II",
respectively the "Captain Kentucky" and "The Pertwillaby Papers", which
were published by Gazette Bok of Oslo last year.
You may have a look at www.raptus.no , which I suppose will contain
more precise information in due time.
Nils Lid Hjort
whether this has been mentioned already, but I did search for "Raptus"
through DCML June without finding it. Therefore:
Don Rosa is among his year's "invited artists" for the annual "Raptus
Festival" in Bergen. This comics festival derives its inspiring and
inspired name from "Raptus von Rupp", who is Ludwig von Drake.
It takes place in Grieghallen, the Grieg hall, which derives its equally
inspired and inspiring name from the composer who lived from 1843
to 1907, which is easy to remember since Johannes Brahms lived
from 1833 to 1897. The dates (for the festival, not Brahms' life, which
as we know started on May 7) are Friday to Sunday September 13-15.
It's not fully clear to me, or to Don, what is actually required of him
as an "invited artist" at this festival, but we'll learn in time. He will
spend a day or so in Oslo before going on to Bergen. There are plans
for combining his Raptus Festival presence with a book signing event,
featuring his two hardcover books "The Don Rosa Archives I & II",
respectively the "Captain Kentucky" and "The Pertwillaby Papers", which
were published by Gazette Bok of Oslo last year.
You may have a look at www.raptus.no , which I suppose will contain
more precise information in due time.
Nils Lid Hjort
Lunnan & Hjort
Kalle Anka-partiet
Message 11 -
2002-07-01 at 14:01:41
Thanks to Theresa Wiegert and Stefan Persson for information
(some weeks ago) about the "Kalla Anka-partiet" in Sweden.
Has a "political programme" of sorts ever been published?
I suppose there would be, since people actually vote for this party.
Nils Lid Hjort
(some weeks ago) about the "Kalla Anka-partiet" in Sweden.
Has a "political programme" of sorts ever been published?
I suppose there would be, since people actually vote for this party.
Nils Lid Hjort
George Milburn
Grandma Duck's car
Message 12 -
2002-07-01 at 14:15:24
Yes, as my brother has two Milburn Electrics (about 1818 vintage) and we couldn't find much on them, I've started a website devoted to gathering information about these old cars at www.milburn.us.
George
----- Original Message -----
From: timo ronkainen
To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: Grandma Duck's car
>George Milburn:
>>1919 Milburn Electric
>>automobile. Their website suggests that Grandma Duck's car was patterned
Halsten Aastebol:
>Trondheim, Norway in 1991 claims that Grandma's car was a Detroit Electric.
Detroit electric is most often mentioned with Grandma Duck's car. They look
a like too. I don't know about Milburn Electric. Is there any pic's on web?
Grandma's car on Gilles Maurice's great page:
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/cars/grandma.html
Timo
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----- Original Message -----
From: timo ronkainen
To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: Grandma Duck's car
>George Milburn:
>>1919 Milburn Electric
>>automobile. Their website suggests that Grandma Duck's car was patterned
Halsten Aastebol:
>Trondheim, Norway in 1991 claims that Grandma's car was a Detroit Electric.
Detroit electric is most often mentioned with Grandma Duck's car. They look
a like too. I don't know about Milburn Electric. Is there any pic's on web?
Grandma's car on Gilles Maurice's great page:
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/cars/grandma.html
Timo
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YO-kyl? 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
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http://www.geocities.com/timoro2/
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Grandma Duck's car
Message 13 -
2002-07-01 at 14:25:12
>Yes, as my brother has two Milburn Electrics
Hard to say. Well, Barks perhaps used different models or drew Grandma's car
from memory.
>website devoted to gathering information about these old cars at
> >www.milburn.us.
Beautiful car and interesting site. That old Instruction manual especially
is fun to read. :-)
Timo
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Hard to say. Well, Barks perhaps used different models or drew Grandma's car
from memory.
>website devoted to gathering information about these old cars at
> >www.milburn.us.
Beautiful car and interesting site. That old Instruction manual especially
is fun to read. :-)
Timo
^^''*''^^
Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
YO-kylä 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
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Frank Bubacz
Grandma Duck's car
Message 14 -
2002-07-01 at 16:36:40
>Barks perhaps used different models or drew Grandma's car
>from memory.
Who was the first artist to draw Grandma's car, BTW?
Was it Barks in "You Can't Guess" or one of the artists who drew the Grandma
stories in WDC&S ? Or was it even Taliaferro himself?
It's certainly the second best known car in Disney comics.
Frank
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>from memory.
Who was the first artist to draw Grandma's car, BTW?
Was it Barks in "You Can't Guess" or one of the artists who drew the Grandma
stories in WDC&S ? Or was it even Taliaferro himself?
It's certainly the second best known car in Disney comics.
Frank
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Slightly OT: Seven-route interchange
Message 15 -
2002-07-01 at 19:21:51
Rob Klein wrote:
> It is one thing to have FOUR major
> roads converge at ONE point with limited access connecting
> each road from each
> direction to all other roads in all other directions. But
> SEVEN!!! I don't believe that exists!
There is a seven-route interchange in Holland, near Rotterdam. Two pairs of
roads are in fact parallel freeways, one for long-distance and one for local
traffic.
In fact you've been there. 8-) I'm talking about "Knooppunt Ridderkerk", the
freeway interchange of:
A 16 (North) to Den Haag
A 16 (North) parallel to Feijenoord
A 38 to Ridderkerk
A 15 (East) to Gorinchem
A 16 (South) to Breda
A 15 (West) to Europoort
A 15 (West) parallel to Barendrecht (and also to a McDonald's 8-)
Drawing maps of freeways is one of my weird hobbies. I haven't succeeded yet
to draw this interchange (by head) without making at least one mistake...
Anyway, this intersection is not a landmark: tourists prefer the line-up of
17 wind mills (following A 15 eastward).
--Harry.
> It is one thing to have FOUR major
> roads converge at ONE point with limited access connecting
> each road from each
> direction to all other roads in all other directions. But
> SEVEN!!! I don't believe that exists!
There is a seven-route interchange in Holland, near Rotterdam. Two pairs of
roads are in fact parallel freeways, one for long-distance and one for local
traffic.
In fact you've been there. 8-) I'm talking about "Knooppunt Ridderkerk", the
freeway interchange of:
A 16 (North) to Den Haag
A 16 (North) parallel to Feijenoord
A 38 to Ridderkerk
A 15 (East) to Gorinchem
A 16 (South) to Breda
A 15 (West) to Europoort
A 15 (West) parallel to Barendrecht (and also to a McDonald's 8-)
Drawing maps of freeways is one of my weird hobbies. I haven't succeeded yet
to draw this interchange (by head) without making at least one mistake...
Anyway, this intersection is not a landmark: tourists prefer the line-up of
17 wind mills (following A 15 eastward).
--Harry.