>By the way, why isn't Jos? Carioca and Panchito
>Pistoles included in the Duck-universe?
'Cause both of then has their own universe, specially Jos?! :-)
Fernando!
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Topic: 200207
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Fernando Ventura
Sigvald: José and Panchito!
Message 91 -
2002-07-06 at 01:48:24
COR4049 - CORNELIUS, MARK A
DCML digest, Vol 1 #973 - 13 msgs
Message 92 -
2002-07-06 at 07:58:46
please stop sending me emails. i was the victim of someones prank. my inbox is flooded everyday with 50 new messages from people ive never heard of. i thank you for your cooperation and ask that my email address be removed from your list.
Timo Ronkainen
Once more about Notre Duck
Message 93 -
2002-07-07 at 00:16:57
There is indeed lots of neogothic churces in USA. Several in N.Y. alone,
like this one, St. Patrick's Cathedral:
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/medny/stpat1.html
Looks a lot like Notre Duck.
I don't know about western coast where Duckburg is supposed to be. I could
imagine gothic influenced spain originated chapels in southern California
with whitewash walls. Not these huge gothic cathedrals.. ??
But how about Mad Duke's Castle? It's style is much more older.
Timo
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like this one, St. Patrick's Cathedral:
http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/medny/stpat1.html
Looks a lot like Notre Duck.
I don't know about western coast where Duckburg is supposed to be. I could
imagine gothic influenced spain originated chapels in southern California
with whitewash walls. Not these huge gothic cathedrals.. ??
But how about Mad Duke's Castle? It's style is much more older.
Timo
^^''*''^^
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Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
YO-kylä 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
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DCML digest, Vol 1 #991 - 19 msgs
Message 94 -
2002-07-07 at 20:11:00
DAVID:
>Given the way that the translations from each country read, it appears that
>each country translated the story from the previous country's translation!
>(So Erika Fuchs did not, I can only suppose, always work from English.)
I still can't really believe it, but now that you say it I remember that in
the very first Barks tenpager that was released in the German Micky Maus
(WDC 95) HDL's piggy bank has their Danish names Rip,Rap&Rup on it. This
seems to be another evidence!
Frank
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>Given the way that the translations from each country read, it appears that
>each country translated the story from the previous country's translation!
>(So Erika Fuchs did not, I can only suppose, always work from English.)
I still can't really believe it, but now that you say it I remember that in
the very first Barks tenpager that was released in the German Micky Maus
(WDC 95) HDL's piggy bank has their Danish names Rip,Rap&Rup on it. This
seems to be another evidence!
Frank
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Helper's Affection for light bulbs
Message 95 -
2002-07-07 at 20:15:14
Last week I re-read Rosa's 4-page story "Fir-Tree Fracas (AR109)".
This story is relevant to the recent discussion here about Helper's
head---light bulb or vacuum radio tube. In this little story Gyro
brings some
Christmas lights he made specially for Donald in page 2, panels 4-7.
Helper is carrying the bulb at the end of the string. The bulb looks
just like his own, including the pointy tip. In panel 7 Helper has taken
it off the string; he wants to keep this one.
I think Rosa is true to Barks here---I recall a couple times in
Barks' stories that Helper was attracted to certain other light
bulbs. -------Larry
This story is relevant to the recent discussion here about Helper's
head---light bulb or vacuum radio tube. In this little story Gyro
brings some
Christmas lights he made specially for Donald in page 2, panels 4-7.
Helper is carrying the bulb at the end of the string. The bulb looks
just like his own, including the pointy tip. In panel 7 Helper has taken
it off the string; he wants to keep this one.
I think Rosa is true to Barks here---I recall a couple times in
Barks' stories that Helper was attracted to certain other light
bulbs. -------Larry
Frank Bubacz
DCML digest, Vol 1 #991 - 19 msgs
Message 96 -
2002-07-07 at 22:50:49
This is just David's interesting mail again, which somehow wasn't saved for
the archives. Another try!
>From: ramapith at mail.dk
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Re: DCML digest, Vol 1 #991 - 19 msgs
>Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:31:35 +0200
>
> Hey, everyone...
>
> RE: DEMONTOOTH MOUNTAIN
> I've checked and yes, it is also in DDOS 203 ("The Golden Christmas
>Tree"), making it a landmark that Barks used more than once.
>
> RE: TRANSLATIONS
> There was a period in the 1950s, at least, when translators did seem to
>translate from non-English languages. I have a set of discarded Egmont
>master pages from 1957. Danish type has been glued over the original
>English. Swedish has been glued on top of the Danish and German on top of
>the Swedish. Given the way that the translations from each country read, it
>appears that each country translated the story from the previous country's
>translation!
> This would seem to be a very unwieldy process. But the margarine factory
>situation seems to be evidence that it's what was indeed done. (So Erika
>Fuchs did not, I can only suppose, always work from English.)
>
> Also RE: MARGARINE FACTORY
> The Vicar-drawn margarine story from a few weeks ago (Pat and Carol
>McGreal's "Margarine Of Error") was produced because we were asked for it.
>The margarine factory is *so* popular with our readers that our publishers
>specifically ask that we do margarine factory-related stories once in
>awhile.
> All the more reason to make the factory a landmark, I think.
>
> David
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the archives. Another try!
>From: ramapith at mail.dk
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Re: DCML digest, Vol 1 #991 - 19 msgs
>Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2002 19:31:35 +0200
>
> Hey, everyone...
>
> RE: DEMONTOOTH MOUNTAIN
> I've checked and yes, it is also in DDOS 203 ("The Golden Christmas
>Tree"), making it a landmark that Barks used more than once.
>
> RE: TRANSLATIONS
> There was a period in the 1950s, at least, when translators did seem to
>translate from non-English languages. I have a set of discarded Egmont
>master pages from 1957. Danish type has been glued over the original
>English. Swedish has been glued on top of the Danish and German on top of
>the Swedish. Given the way that the translations from each country read, it
>appears that each country translated the story from the previous country's
>translation!
> This would seem to be a very unwieldy process. But the margarine factory
>situation seems to be evidence that it's what was indeed done. (So Erika
>Fuchs did not, I can only suppose, always work from English.)
>
> Also RE: MARGARINE FACTORY
> The Vicar-drawn margarine story from a few weeks ago (Pat and Carol
>McGreal's "Margarine Of Error") was produced because we were asked for it.
>The margarine factory is *so* popular with our readers that our publishers
>specifically ask that we do margarine factory-related stories once in
>awhile.
> All the more reason to make the factory a landmark, I think.
>
> David
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DCML digest, Vol 1 #991 - 19 msgs
Message 97 -
2002-07-07 at 23:04:26
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Bubacz" <frankbubacz at hotmail.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: DCML digest, Vol 1 #991 - 19 msgs
> This is just David's interesting mail again, which somehow wasn't saved
for
> the archives. Another try!
Actually, David's original message *was* saved in the archieves. However,
the date setting on his computer is wrong (30th of June instead of 7th of
July), so the message was saved at the wrong place. Take a look at the
messages from June, and you'll find that David's mail is there.
Stefan
From: "Frank Bubacz" <frankbubacz at hotmail.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: DCML digest, Vol 1 #991 - 19 msgs
> This is just David's interesting mail again, which somehow wasn't saved
for
> the archives. Another try!
Actually, David's original message *was* saved in the archieves. However,
the date setting on his computer is wrong (30th of June instead of 7th of
July), so the message was saved at the wrong place. Take a look at the
messages from June, and you'll find that David's mail is there.
Stefan
Stefan Persson
DCML digest, Vol 1 #991 - 19 msgs
Message 98 -
2002-07-07 at 23:13:01
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Bubacz" <frankbubacz at hotmail.com>
To: <ramapith at mail.dk>; <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: DCML digest, Vol 1 #991 - 19 msgs
David>Given the way that the translations from each country read, it appears
that
David>each country translated the story from the previous country's
translation!
David>(So Erika Fuchs did not, I can only suppose, always work from
English.)
Frank>I still can't really believe it, but now that you say it I remember
that in
Frank>the very first Barks tenpager that was released in the German Micky
Maus
Frank>(WDC 95) HDL's piggy bank has their Danish names Rip,Rap&Rup on it.
This
Frank>seems to be another evidence!
Another evidence is the Swedish name of Scrooge McDuck: in the first story
where he appeared in Scandinavia, the Barks 10-pager in WDC 98, he was
called "farbror Gamle Rike P?r" (="uncle Old Rich Man," a Swedish pun) in
Sweden and "onkel Joakim" (="uncle Joakim") in Denmark. The next time he
appeared in Sweden, he carried the name "farbror Joakim," suggesting that
the Swedish translation was made from Danish. This matter was discussed
some time ago on the Swedish Ankism list, and that is where I got part of
the information above.
Stefan
From: "Frank Bubacz" <frankbubacz at hotmail.com>
To: <ramapith at mail.dk>; <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: DCML digest, Vol 1 #991 - 19 msgs
David>Given the way that the translations from each country read, it appears
that
David>each country translated the story from the previous country's
translation!
David>(So Erika Fuchs did not, I can only suppose, always work from
English.)
Frank>I still can't really believe it, but now that you say it I remember
that in
Frank>the very first Barks tenpager that was released in the German Micky
Maus
Frank>(WDC 95) HDL's piggy bank has their Danish names Rip,Rap&Rup on it.
This
Frank>seems to be another evidence!
Another evidence is the Swedish name of Scrooge McDuck: in the first story
where he appeared in Scandinavia, the Barks 10-pager in WDC 98, he was
called "farbror Gamle Rike P?r" (="uncle Old Rich Man," a Swedish pun) in
Sweden and "onkel Joakim" (="uncle Joakim") in Denmark. The next time he
appeared in Sweden, he carried the name "farbror Joakim," suggesting that
the Swedish translation was made from Danish. This matter was discussed
some time ago on the Swedish Ankism list, and that is where I got part of
the information above.
Stefan
Archontis Pantsios
MIKY MAOUS et al
Message 99 -
2002-07-08 at 15:49:26
Fellow Quackeroos:
Another week of Greek Disneys:
1) MIKY MAOUS #1876, June 28, 2002 (100 pages; cover price: 1.20 euro)
a) Donald Duck in "La scampagnata sfortunata", from "Almanacco Topolino"
#78, 1963 (27 re-mounted, 3-tiered pages). Script: The Barosso brothers;
Art: Giovan Battista Carpi (Note: MM lists no story-code or creators for
that story.)
b) Gilberto in "Il magico genio dei Pippi", from "Topolino" #2161, 1997 (20
pages). Script: Claudia Salvadori; Art: Comicup
c) Black Pete in "Il colpo da star", from "Topolino" #2344, 2000 (15 pages).
Script: Stafano Pertruccelli; Art: Marco Mazzarello
d) Fethry Duck in "The Sculptor", 11 pages. Story-code and creators unknown.
2) ALMANAKO #137, July 2002 (100 pages; cover price: 1.75 euro)
a) Indiana Goofy in "Le vacanze di Indiana Pipps", from "Topolino" #2281,
1999 (32 pages). Script: Sergio Tulipano; Art: Roberto Vian
b) Paperinik in "Alieno per caso", from "Paperinik" #78, 2000 (33 pages).
Script: Bruno Enna; Art: Vincenzo Arcuri
3) MINNI #70, July 2002 (100 pages; cover price: 1.75 euro)
a) Minnie Mouse in "Il laccio di Jussuf Roman "il bello"", from "Minni" #64,
1998 (51 pages in 2 parts). Script: Rodolfo Cimino; Art: Roberto Ronchi
b) Magica de Spell in "Il fuoriscooter", from "Topolino" #2344, 2000 (12
pages). Script: Gaja Arrighini; Art: Luciano Milano
"Til next time,
Archontis
--------------------------------------------------
Archontis L. Pantsios, Ph.D.
Assistant Academic Dean & Professor of Economics
The American College of Thessaloniki
Thessaloniki--GREECE
Phone #: +30-310-398228
Another week of Greek Disneys:
1) MIKY MAOUS #1876, June 28, 2002 (100 pages; cover price: 1.20 euro)
a) Donald Duck in "La scampagnata sfortunata", from "Almanacco Topolino"
#78, 1963 (27 re-mounted, 3-tiered pages). Script: The Barosso brothers;
Art: Giovan Battista Carpi (Note: MM lists no story-code or creators for
that story.)
b) Gilberto in "Il magico genio dei Pippi", from "Topolino" #2161, 1997 (20
pages). Script: Claudia Salvadori; Art: Comicup
c) Black Pete in "Il colpo da star", from "Topolino" #2344, 2000 (15 pages).
Script: Stafano Pertruccelli; Art: Marco Mazzarello
d) Fethry Duck in "The Sculptor", 11 pages. Story-code and creators unknown.
2) ALMANAKO #137, July 2002 (100 pages; cover price: 1.75 euro)
a) Indiana Goofy in "Le vacanze di Indiana Pipps", from "Topolino" #2281,
1999 (32 pages). Script: Sergio Tulipano; Art: Roberto Vian
b) Paperinik in "Alieno per caso", from "Paperinik" #78, 2000 (33 pages).
Script: Bruno Enna; Art: Vincenzo Arcuri
3) MINNI #70, July 2002 (100 pages; cover price: 1.75 euro)
a) Minnie Mouse in "Il laccio di Jussuf Roman "il bello"", from "Minni" #64,
1998 (51 pages in 2 parts). Script: Rodolfo Cimino; Art: Roberto Ronchi
b) Magica de Spell in "Il fuoriscooter", from "Topolino" #2344, 2000 (12
pages). Script: Gaja Arrighini; Art: Luciano Milano
"Til next time,
Archontis
--------------------------------------------------
Archontis L. Pantsios, Ph.D.
Assistant Academic Dean & Professor of Economics
The American College of Thessaloniki
Thessaloniki--GREECE
Phone #: +30-310-398228
Lars Jensen
which story is this?
Message 100 -
2002-07-08 at 16:39:57
Luca Boschi wrote:
> well... Romano Scarpa is gonna draw your story, soon (before that one
of
> Olaf), inspired by the old b&w movie called "Accadde Domani" in Italy
> ("Happened Tomorrow").
>
> He's happy to do it (now, he's completing another story, made by him).
Romano Scarpa told you he's happy to be drawing my story? Great! Next
time you see him, please tell him *I'm* very happy to have *him* draw my
story. :-) He truly is a comics legend, isn't he?!
Frank Bubacz wrote:
> Interesting! Is it the Rene Clair movie (1944)?
Just to clarify things: I believe Luca is referring to Olaf Solstrand's
story. Mine is *not* based on It Happened Tomorrow - or any other movie.
Except possibly Little Shop of Horrors. :-)
Lars
> well... Romano Scarpa is gonna draw your story, soon (before that one
of
> Olaf), inspired by the old b&w movie called "Accadde Domani" in Italy
> ("Happened Tomorrow").
>
> He's happy to do it (now, he's completing another story, made by him).
Romano Scarpa told you he's happy to be drawing my story? Great! Next
time you see him, please tell him *I'm* very happy to have *him* draw my
story. :-) He truly is a comics legend, isn't he?!
Frank Bubacz wrote:
> Interesting! Is it the Rene Clair movie (1944)?
Just to clarify things: I believe Luca is referring to Olaf Solstrand's
story. Mine is *not* based on It Happened Tomorrow - or any other movie.
Except possibly Little Shop of Horrors. :-)
Lars
Frank Bubacz
It happened tomorrow
Message 101 -
2002-07-08 at 17:31:54
Hi,
just in case anybody else is interested in old movies (and their adaptations
to comics),Luca told me in private mail that it is the Clair movie indeed,
adding that Romano Scarpa is a big fan of this kind of Hollywood 30s/40s
comedies, call them "screwball" or "sophisticated"
or whatever. And so am I. :-)
In this case the film is a mixture of comedy and fantasy, which was very
popular at the time. It's about a man being able to read tomorrow's
newspaper headlines. The problems begin when he reads about his own death...
Although I know a few movies by Clair, I've never seen this one. Seems to be
a strange scenario for a Disney comic. I'm really curious how it turns out.
Frank
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just in case anybody else is interested in old movies (and their adaptations
to comics),Luca told me in private mail that it is the Clair movie indeed,
adding that Romano Scarpa is a big fan of this kind of Hollywood 30s/40s
comedies, call them "screwball" or "sophisticated"
or whatever. And so am I. :-)
In this case the film is a mixture of comedy and fantasy, which was very
popular at the time. It's about a man being able to read tomorrow's
newspaper headlines. The problems begin when he reads about his own death...
Although I know a few movies by Clair, I've never seen this one. Seems to be
a strange scenario for a Disney comic. I'm really curious how it turns out.
Frank
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"Hidden Barks"
Message 102 -
2002-07-08 at 20:31:18
Hi.
I don't know if this topic was dealed with before, but I just found a
hidden "Barks" in Don Rosa's "The Crocodile Collector" among with the
hieroglyphs in El Faijum (page 7 panel 5 of that story).
I only know of two other ones, the one in "The Sharpie of the
Culebra Cut" and the one where Barks can be seen on a "WANTED"-Poster
in the police office in "Cash Flow".
Does anybody (maybe Don himself) know about other "hidden Barks" in Don's stories?
Best regards,
Arne.
I don't know if this topic was dealed with before, but I just found a
hidden "Barks" in Don Rosa's "The Crocodile Collector" among with the
hieroglyphs in El Faijum (page 7 panel 5 of that story).
I only know of two other ones, the one in "The Sharpie of the
Culebra Cut" and the one where Barks can be seen on a "WANTED"-Poster
in the police office in "Cash Flow".
Does anybody (maybe Don himself) know about other "hidden Barks" in Don's stories?
Best regards,
Arne.
H.W.Fluks
"Hidden Barks"
Message 103 -
2002-07-08 at 20:36:04
Arne:
> Does anybody (maybe Don himself) know about other "hidden
> Barks" in Don's stories?
I'm sure he does. But isn't it much more fun to discover them yourself?
--Harry.
> Does anybody (maybe Don himself) know about other "hidden
> Barks" in Don's stories?
I'm sure he does. But isn't it much more fun to discover them yourself?
--Harry.
Apostolis Trikourakis
New Disney magazine
Message 104 -
2002-07-09 at 03:05:27
Hi all
A new Disney magazine came out in Greece on July 4th.
It's called "MM" (means both Mickey Mouse and Mickey
Mystery") and it's a new series, starring Mickey Mouse
as a detective in Dark City. It will b-monthly and the
first issue has a T-shirt with the cover of the
magazine :-)
The first Mickey Mystery series started in 1995 and
finished in August 1999, after 26 great issues. The
new series will publish 12 issues. The magazine first
appeared in Italy from 1999 until 2001.
Nice edition, very good printing and coloring, with
stories mostly (I think) by Giorgio Cavazzano.
Best Wishes
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A new Disney magazine came out in Greece on July 4th.
It's called "MM" (means both Mickey Mouse and Mickey
Mystery") and it's a new series, starring Mickey Mouse
as a detective in Dark City. It will b-monthly and the
first issue has a T-shirt with the cover of the
magazine :-)
The first Mickey Mystery series started in 1995 and
finished in August 1999, after 26 great issues. The
new series will publish 12 issues. The magazine first
appeared in Italy from 1999 until 2001.
Nice edition, very good printing and coloring, with
stories mostly (I think) by Giorgio Cavazzano.
Best Wishes
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Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens, Greece
E-mail: komixgreekpage at yahoo.com
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New Disney magazine
Message 105 -
2002-07-09 at 03:13:35
Apostolis Trikourakis wrote:
> Nice edition, very good printing and coloring, with
> stories mostly (I think) by Giorgio Cavazzano.
Only the first is drawn by Cavazzano, sorry.
Anyway it's a good series... so good that it was stopped :-/
--
Sprea
> Nice edition, very good printing and coloring, with
> stories mostly (I think) by Giorgio Cavazzano.
Only the first is drawn by Cavazzano, sorry.
Anyway it's a good series... so good that it was stopped :-/
--
Sprea