Keskustelujen arkisto

Hi!
Could anyone send me scans of the covers of Don Rosa's Comics and Stories
1-2 and Captain Kentucky Collection 1-3? And in text or as a scan the
forewords (by Roger Stern and by Don Rosa) in DRC&S #1? I'd be really
grateful.

Arttu Salminen
arttusal at perunamaa.net

PS. Don Rosa - The New Duckmaster now has a new webmaster. Go check the News
for more information. http://www.perunamaa.net/donrosa

lgiver at postoffice.pacbell.net wrote:

> at the end of "Return to Plain Awful", HDL left a copy of the guidebook for
> the Awfultonians to read! The implication was that the next time we see
> Plain Awful, the residents there will all be organized into Junior
> Woodchuck troops.

I think they left a copy of the guidebook because they knew that the
Awfultonians would never leave their city and use it for any bad
purpose.

> And then in "The Curse of Nostrildamus", all of us
> readers get to see a page of the Guidebook with the picture of
> Nostrildamus wearing his necklace with the locket, and Scrooge must have
> seen this picture, too, so he could know what to look for, as HDL did
> not go with Scrooge and Donald in this story.

I think they showed him just the picture and didn't let continue him
reading.

> I thought it would be really wild if we had an on-line website version of
> the guidebook for all of us fans of the Junior Woodchucks to use!

I'm working at a (German) website (http://www.don-mcduck.de) in the moment where I'm collecting all the
entries of the guidebook which Don Rosa has mentioned anywhere in his
stories. Unfortunately it's a very big project (because of some other
regions on that website like a character guide and detailed
information about Don's stories) and it would take a long time to
translate everything into English. But maybe I'll do that when having
finished the website in the far future.

Arne.

The "blue-prints" of Scrooge's Money Bin has recently been posted on
some websites, complete with dimensions in feet. About 2 months ago I
noted on the DUCK-Hunt mail list that the dimensions of this bin are
much too small to hold 3 cubic acres of cash; since there's lots of
other stuff in these blueprints, there's not enough room for even 10% of
Scrooge's 3 cubic acres. One possibility we considered was that not
all of Scrooge's 3 cubic acres of cash are in this bin. Barks' story
"Statuesque Spendthrifts (C&S 138, March'52)" ends with Scrooge showing
the Maharajah of Howduyustan his 3 cubic acres of cash in the basement
of his downtown Duckburg office building. Now I've just re-read the
Gyro and Scrooge story "Pied Piper of Duckburg (H89174)", which was
started by Barks and finished by Don Rosa. Indeed, on page 1, panel 5,
Scrooge complains to Gyro that rats are in his overflow bin, which is in
his Duckburg office building. With this explicit reference to an
"overflow bin", I can accept the dimensions of the blue-prints for the
Killmotor Hill bin. Scrooge built that bin early, then set out
building his world-wide business empire, and apparently accumulated much
more cash than he expected when he built the Killmotor Hill bin. So
when he built his downtown office building, he included the big basement
bin and an overflow bin.

Fellow Quackeroos:

Here's the most recent crop of Greek Disneys:

1) MIKY MAOUS #1878, July 12, 2002 (100 pages; cover price: 1.20 euro)
a) Bum Bum Ghigno in "Il faraone empio", from "Topolino" #2367, 2001 (35
pages). Script & art: Corrado Mastantuono
b) Goofy in "Pippo mago e i Sette Nani", from "Topolino" #148, 1956 (32
pages). Script: Guido Martina; Art: Giulio Chierchini.
c) Grandma Duck in "The Treasure of the Lake", 10 pages. Story code and
creators unknown.

2) DONALD #56, July 2002 (100 pages; cover price: 1.75 euro)
a) Donald Duck in "La piramidina di Ment-Akut", from "Topolino" #2096 (64
pages in 2 parts). Script: Carlo Gentina; Art: Salvatore Deiana
b) Uncle Scrooge in "Il tesoro troppo facile", from "Topolino" #2274, 1999
(10 pages). Script: Gianfranco Cordara; Art: Massimiliano Lucania
c) Grandma Duck in "Il concorso agreste", from "Minni" #90, 2000 (4 pages).
Script: Nino Russo; Art: Donald Soffriti

3) MIKY MYSTIRIO #1 (SERIES II), July 2002 (76 pages; cover price: 5.90
euro--the price includes a t-shirt featuring one of three covers from the
series first issues):
Mickey Mouse in "Anderville", from "Mickey Mouse Mystery Magazine" #0, 1999
(64 pages). Script: Tito Faraci; Art: Giorgio Cavazzano

This column will be on hiatus for the next few weeks--it's time to enjoy the
summer!

'Til next time,

Archontis

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Archontis L. Pantsios, Ph.D.
Assistant Academic Dean & Professor of Economics
The American College of Thessaloniki
Thessaloniki--GREECE
Phone #: +30-310-398228

> From: lgiver at postoffice.pacbell.net
> Subject: Scrooge's other money bins?
> The "blue-prints" of Scrooge's Money Bin has recently been posted on
> some websites, complete with dimensions in feet. About 2 months ago I
> noted on the DUCK-Hunt mail list that the dimensions of this bin are
> much too small to hold 3 cubic acres of cash;

I am always tied strictly to Barksian facts. Sometimes $crooge would mention
this fanciful "3 cubic acres" idea... other times he'd mention absurd
denominations such as "fantasticatillions" and so forth... but one thing
that was always shown in Money Bin scenes was a depth gauge that indicated
the money level to be near the 100 ft. mark. This told me that our
blueprints had to show the depth of the money should obviously be about 10
stories, with another coupla' stories of empty air above (corresponding to
several more floors in the side office section). And I knew that the outside
appearance of the Bin was roughly a cube shape. So, I only used the usual
dimensions and visual shape that I saw in Barks' stories (though, yes, there
were some deviations in the old tales as Barks was not trying to be strictly
consistent).

> I can accept the dimensions of the blue-prints for the
> Killmotor Hill bin. Scrooge built that bin early, then set out
> building his world-wide business empire, and apparently accumulated much
> more cash than he expected when he built the Killmotor Hill bin. So
> when he built his downtown office building, he included the big basement
> bin and an overflow bin.

Of course, that's obvious. In chapter 12 of my "Lo$", I expressly addressed
that matter. Correct -- the cash in the Money Bin (in *my* stories) is ONLY
that money that $crooge earned earliest in his career, the money he loves
the most as "trophies" of his grit and moxie, let's say from 1898 to about
1930 -- money that he earned on the spot, in person, with his own sweat,
labor and brains. His wealth from his endeavors since those years, after he
relocated to his Duckburg base in 1930 and had to manage his own affairs
because his two sisters and brother-in-law quit and left, is spread out in
overflow bins and banks and investment holdings all over the world.

Don replied to lgiver:

> > more cash than he expected when he built the Killmotor Hill bin. So
> > when he built his downtown office building, he included the
> > big basement bin and an overflow bin.

> Of course, that's obvious. In chapter 12 of my "Lo$", I
> expressly addressed
> that matter. Correct -- the cash in the Money Bin (in *my*
> stories) is ONLY
> that money that $crooge earned earliest in his career

That does not fully explain why Scrooge keeps telling that he's broke when
he loses the full content of that bin. One may think that he is always
exaggerating and sentimental, but in most stories, Donald and the nephews
seem to take it seriously.

I thought about the following possibility. Scrooge has an agreement with the
banks, that he can use cheques and stuff, to represent the money that is in
his bin. Just like an American banknote represents the gold in Fort Knox
(more or less). So Scrooge gets credits from the banks, as long as he can
show that he can solve the credits at any time by the money in his bin.

Scrooge would make such an arrangement for sentimental reasons (e.g. he
likes to swim). This would explain why Scrooge would be broke when losing
his bin content.

But it would also imply that most of the contents of his bin is not actually
*his* money... Maybe that's not a very nice thought.

Well, never mind.

--Harry.

Vidar:
>> I'm working on a page with all info from the Guidebook in Barks' stories.
>> Don't know when I'll finish it, though.

And I still have this project of doing JW pages with background information for certain stories
(information on the Panama Canal & Roosevelt for instance), and two sections inspired from the
adventures: places & people, with all the mysterious places the ducks have explored (Atlantis, ...)
, the strange people they have met (extra-terrestrials, ...).
But it takes time, and that's something I'm seriously lacking. :(

Olivier

> From: Kriton Kyrimis <kyrimis at cti.gr>
> DON:
>
> As long as this has been brought up, why did you change Barks' text to
> mention an overflow bin, rather than the regular one?

Well, Bruce Hamilton wanted me to complete that story, and it seemed like a
fun idea to try. However, there was the scene, as there sometimes was in
Gyro stories or other non-$crooge logoed stories, that showed the Money Bin
on a downtown street corner rather than up on the usual hill overlooking
Duckburg. Barks tried to be consistent up to a point but not entirely,
whereas I don't try to be absolutely consistent, though I do hold onto my
consistency a bit beyond Barks' point because *I* have that added knowledge
that many people are watching and remembering (and also simply because it
pleases me). Anyway, one point of consistency I can *never* ignore is that
the Bin is on that hill. So I could NOT continue that story if I had to
stick to Barks' script where $crooge calls that his main Money Bin. We
didn't want to change any art, but I convinced them to just change a few
words in one balloon so that I could work on completing the story

> From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com
> That does not fully explain why Scrooge keeps telling that he's broke when
> he loses the full content of that bin.

I addressed that exact question in that new Gyro story because the beginning
of that sequel to "Xmas for Shacktown" put me in that very situation --
$crooge was declaring himself flat broke even though he'd only lost the cash
in his Money Bin. When the main "collateral" of $crooge's Bin is gone,
operations of his huge empire uses up what little other cash reserves he has
very quickly. In a matter of some months or a year he must begin to
liquidate everything and go broke. Beyond that, Donald & the Nephews (at
least the Nephews) take him seriously because they know that the Money in
the Bin *is* the money that's most important. And Donald might not analyze
it much and just believe what $crooge says. No, that doesn't explain it
perfectly, but I just don't worry about it. We know that the Bin can't
possibly be ALL of $crooge's money, but we also know that some stories must
treat it that way for dramatic and narrational effect.

> I thought about the following possibility. Scrooge has an agreement with
the
> banks, that he can use cheques and stuff, to represent the money that is
in
> his bin. Just like an American banknote represents the gold in Fort Knox
> (more or less). So Scrooge gets credits from the banks, as long as he can
> show that he can solve the credits at any time by the money in his bin.
> Scrooge would make such an arrangement for sentimental reasons (e.g. he
> likes to swim). This would explain why Scrooge would be broke when losing
> his bin content.

By gosh, I answered your question before I read this. You bluffed me into
answering your question when you already had a better-worded answer than I
did!