Here's what's in this month's issue of Komix:
* Cover by Carl Barks, from the September 1949 issue of Walt Disney's
Comics and Stories. I have put a scan of the cover at
http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis/pics/komix170.jpg
* Two pages of letters.
* Three pages with "the news of Komix". Among the articles, there is
one about a new Italian series called "X-Mickey", inspired by the
X-Files, and one about two French Canadians [I think this is incorrect],
Achde and Laurent Gerra, who will be taking over from the late Morris,
producing new adventures of Lucky Luke, who will be moving to Quebec!
* Carl Barks' "The not so Ancient Mariner", from the September 1966
issue of Walt Disney's Comics & Stories. (WDC 312-01)
* A four page article, titled "Especially Dedicated!", subtitled
"Young and veteran artists honor Carl Barks".
* Carl Barks' "Wailing Whalers", redrawn by Daan Jippes. (H98239)
* Carl Barks' "Hang Gliders Be Hanged", drawn by Vicar. (D6886)
* A one page article titled "Details and Searches", subtitled "Don Rosa
comments on the story _And Eye for Detail_.
* Don Rosa's "An Eye for Detail". (D94121)
* "The Flying Rock Mystery", written by Carl Fallberg nd drawn by Jack
Bradbury, from the October 1958 issue of Mickey Mouse. (W MM 62-01).
--
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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KOMIX #170
Message 226 -
2002-07-29 at 08:47:38
Kriton Kyrimis
Articles from Komix #166 and #167
Message 227 -
2002-07-29 at 08:48:19
Here is my back log of translations from Komix #166 and #167. (Actually,
only #166, as there were no Rosa-related aricles in #167.)
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Warning! Do not show this issue to the Beagle Boys!
The Money Bin's Blueprints
Don Rosa presents the history of the creation of a unique
document... The original plans of the money bin of the richest duck
in the world.
Two years ago, _Egmont_ decided to prepare a cycle of ten stories to
celebrate the one hundredth anniversary from the birth of the great
Carl Barks. Ten artists wrote stories with the ten most important
characters created by the Duck Man. These stories proved how interesting
these characters are and that they can star comfortably in their own
stories. I chose the Beagle Boys, but pointed out that the _Egmont_
people had not included in their list a "character" whom I consider to
be the second most importance presence, after Scrooge, in Barks world:
the Money Bin itself. Meanwhile, the people from the French _Picsou
Magazine_ had asked me to write a story for the fiftieth anniversary of
the appearance of the Beagle Boys and the Money Bin and had suggested
that I show the blueprints of the Money Bin.
Thus, I decided to write a story starring the Beagle Boys and the
Money Bin. It is a fight between the Beagle Boys and the Money Bin,
which takes place while Scrooge is away. As usual, my enthusiasm made me
add to my story some specialized information. Thus, I decided to dedicate
some panels to a conversation regarding the origin of the Beagle Boys
gang and the construction of the Money Bin. I included in the story two
pages withe the blueprints of the Money Bin. These blueprints are, to a
large extent, independent of the story. That is, the story can be read by
itself, without the blueprints, and the blueprints can be presented alone,
as a poster. [Komix appear to have chose a third way, as they have printed
the blueprints on both sides of the same page, as an illustration to an
article.] The final blueprints were made on a computer, which allows both
me to make occasional changes and the editors to present them with their
own additions or a different layout. I described to my friend, Dan Shane,
the form that they should have. He sent me, by e-mail, every part that he
completed, for approval. It was a time-consuming process, but it was fun!
Of course I know that the original drawings were not made with a
computer: there were no computers in 1902! You don't need a computer
to draw a straight line, you know! This was the form of architectural
drawings at that time. This is why we took care to draw dimension lines
using the style of that tie, without the arrows at the end which modern
technique demands.
We are also preparing a second edition of the blueprints, which will
be able to be used as a poster on its own. There will be more modern
additions, and floors will be shown. The blueprints that _Komix_ publishes
are the original 1902 blueprints, those that were used in my story. This
is why the modern additions that we'll be making to the poster are not
shown: a computer room with one of those huge Univac computers of the
1950s, which will take half a story and will have the computing power
of a modern calculator.
It was a challenge for me to go through my memories and through
the suggestions of my friends and other friends of the duck world,
to decide which elements I should include in the blueprints and
which to ignore. Many of the rooms that Barks shows are absolutely
essential. However, other rooms or views of the building had been made for
a particular purpose in the set-up of a panel or an entire story. In other
occasions, some rooms are the basis for a throw-away gag. This is how I
treat the Money Bin in my own stories. Therefore, I do not think that
Barks expected that, one day, someone would make a consistent blueprint
of the Money Bin. Besides, I did it only for my own enjoyment. I have
always drawn views of the interior spaces and offices of the Money Bin,
without worrying how they all fit together or whether I am going to draw
the same office in the same way again for a second time. Even now that
the Money Bin blueprints are complete, I doubt whether I am going to be
consulting them the next time that I will be drawing Scrooge's office.
Finally, I intend to leave one or two floors without a description,
so that I can add more elements that I had not imagined previously. In
addition, if a friend of the ducks believes that I have ignored some
element or room that I should have included in my blueprints, he is free
to assume that it is in of of those particular empty floors!
[Signed] Don Rosa
[Caption, p.1, left]
The two first appearances of uncle Scrooge's Money Bin: The exterior
view of the Money Bin was first shown in December 1951 in Carl Barks'
story _The Money Bin on Killmotor Hill_ (_Komix_ #116). However, Barks
himself had shown his hero in the interior of the Money Bin a year
earlier, in July 1950, in his story _The Pixilated Parrot_ (_Komix_
#52), to which the second panel belongs.
[Caption, p.1, center]
The Beagle Boys attempt to break into uncle Scrooge's Money Bin once more,
and Carl Barks finds the inspiration for one more of his oil paintings.
[Side column]
ATTAAAAACK!
The story that inspired Don Rosa to draw the architectural blueprints
of the Money Bin.
_Attaaaaack!_ does not have anything special, it is just a gag that
develops in twelve pages. You will not find any extensive research
in which I could take pride here, there are no details of particular
historic accuracy, not even any hidden references to old Barks stories
or classic movies. I like to write such simple stories occasionally,
but I would soon have become bored I I could not return to the deep and
detailed historic research and other more complex tasks in which I am
completely absorbed. Besides, this is what constitutes food for my mind!
In _Attaaaaack!_, which is the second story after _The Coin_, which I
write for the French _Disney_ editions, the Beagle Boys, Magica de Spell,
and the pig-faced villain (who appears in various roles in Barks' stories)
make brief appearances. An unscheduled, but longer appearance is made by
a new villain of my own creation, Arpene Lusin, the rich international
play-boy burglar, who wants to close his career in glory, by emptying
Scrooge McDuck's Money Bin. Arpene Lusin represents yet another danger
for Scrooge. Lusin does not need Scrooge's money: it is enough for him
to destroy the contents of the Money Bin and to give the impression that
he has stolen them. In this case, Scrooge would have had no chance of
getting back what no longer exists. I have already written a good story
with Arpene Lusin, _The Black Knight_, but the future will show if I
will manage to come up with something else for such a peculiar character.
I would like to point out something more... When I drew the scene where
Scrooge blows up the front of the Money Bin, revealing the office spaces,
I thought that this was the first time when readers can have a full
picture of the construction of the interior of the Money Bin. Thus, I
decided that the moment had come to work on an idea that some publishers
had been asking me to implement for years: the blueprints of the Money
Bin. I finally decided that I could not make these blueprints for
_Attaaaaack!_. However, this idea was implemented a bit later, with the
opportunity of the story which I wrote for the fiftieth anniversary from
the first reference to the Beagle Boys gang and to the Money Bin and of
course, the one hundredth anniversary from the birth of Carl Barks.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fifty years of inventions... The history of a Barksian character
The Ingenious Gyro Gearloose
Fifty years are completed these days from the first appearance of Gyro
Gearloose, the most inventive inventor in the Ninth Art.
Gyro Gearloose is, without doubt, one of the most likable figures in
the world created by Carl Barks. For five decades he has been creating
home appliances at bargain prices and coming up with the most incredible
machines, to order or otherwise. Brilliant, absent-minded, and naive,
Gyro is capable of both solving the most complex problems and of sewing
panic in fractions of a second, each time he loses control of his
strange creations.
THE FIRST APPEARANCES
Gyro Gearloose is a creation of Carl Barks. He made is first appearance in
May, 1952, in the ten-page story _Gladstone's Terrible Secret_, in _Walt
Disney Comics_ magazine. In his first appearance he was a gawky Barksian
fowl of unspecified species, with several extra kilos. In 1953 his tiny
helper appeared, a pocket robot who, although he appears insignificant,
often intervenes, rescuing his master out of a difficult situation.
In 1956, the people at _Wester Publishing_ asked the Duck Man to add to
each issue of _Uncle Scrooge) magazine a short story, in which uncle
Scrooge, Donald, or the nephews did not appear, to take advantage of
some special postal rates. Because of this, Gyro soon took his final
form and became the central character of a series of most enjoyable
short stories. In the 1960s, Gyro got his own comic book, and Carl Barks
created some of his best stories for this short-lived publication.
AN INVENTOR FROM THE CRADLE
What is Gyro's position in the duck universe? Don Rosa has studied
carefully Carl Barks' references to Gyro's past and has managed to include
them in the _Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck_ and the story of Duckburg
in general. Always according to Don, uncle Scrooge met Gyro's great
grandfather, Ratchet Gearloose, in Louisville, Kentucky, in 1880. Ratchet,
an inventor and big-time tinkerer, embarks, along with young Scrooge,
i\on Mississippi's river boats (_The Life * Times of Scrooge McDuck_,
Chapter 2, _Komix_ #101). In 1883, they meet again in Java (_The Cowboy
Captain of the Cutty Sark_, _Komix_ #156). In 1902, uncle Scrooge decides
to settle in Duckburg, and among the kids, who have their headquarters in
old fort Duckburg, is little Fulton Gearloose, Gyro's father: one of the
founding members of the Junior Woodchucks Club. Don reveals more details
about Gyro's past in his new story titled _Gyro's First Invention_,
from which we have obtained and present to you some draft drawings.
IMAGINARY INVENTOR
Gyro Gearloose has a lot in common with his creator, uncle Carl. His
profession has to do with the last, if not the next one, word in
technology, and his place would have reasonably been in some ultramodern
industrial complex... Gyro, however, prefers to work in his humble
workshop. Uncle Carl himself preferred to work at home, secluded in
his studio, far from the din of the offices of the large publishing
hose that published his stories. Gyro is one of those characters who
seem to mirror an aspect of the personality of their creator... Besides,
Barks had admitted that he had always wanted to be an inventor. From the
impressive Paul Bunyan machines (_Komix_ #41) to the atom subtracter in
_The Titanic Ants_ (_Komix_ #70) or the rocket in _The 24 Carat Moon_
(_Komix_ #32), uncle Carl's classic stories are full of fantastic devices,
pioneering vehicles and all sorts of weird gadgets, which appear to have
come out directly from a science fiction movie. The great creator was
an imaginary inventor... and imaginary colleague of his charismatic hero.
[Captions]
[p.1, bottom]
A model sheet by Carl Barks.
[p.1, top right]
GYRO'S EVOLUTION
Gyro's first appearance in the story _Gladstone's Terrible Secret_. One
month later, he obtains a leading part and his look changes... The truth
is that, initially, Barks was used the form of Gus Goose, as he appeared
in the cartoon Interior Decorators. Soon, however, Gyro will obtain his
final look.
[p.2., inset]
DON ROSA'S DRAFT DRAWINGS
Draft drawings by Don Rosa for the story _Gyro's First Invention_. One
of the nephews begins by saying: "Say it is the anniversary of when Gyro
opened his shop. I almost forgot!" And Donald adds: "He's certainly a
genius. Though he seldom seems to think up anything with a practical
value."
UTOPIAN QUESTS
Carl Barks used to have fun by drawing futuristic panels full of the
strangest gadgets. In the story _monsterville_, he shows Gyro Gearloose
dreaming of and building the Duckburg of the future. A Duckburg where
technology is supposed to cater for even the simplest needs of the city's
inhabitants. The results of the experiment are completely the opposite
of what Gyro had hoped. One more bitter, ironic comment by uncle Carl
on blind faith in technology.
[Caption]
Cover from the magazine that was published in America starring Gyro.
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Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Destiny is the art of throwing darts at random and claiming that anything
you hit was the target all along."
-----
only #166, as there were no Rosa-related aricles in #167.)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Warning! Do not show this issue to the Beagle Boys!
The Money Bin's Blueprints
Don Rosa presents the history of the creation of a unique
document... The original plans of the money bin of the richest duck
in the world.
Two years ago, _Egmont_ decided to prepare a cycle of ten stories to
celebrate the one hundredth anniversary from the birth of the great
Carl Barks. Ten artists wrote stories with the ten most important
characters created by the Duck Man. These stories proved how interesting
these characters are and that they can star comfortably in their own
stories. I chose the Beagle Boys, but pointed out that the _Egmont_
people had not included in their list a "character" whom I consider to
be the second most importance presence, after Scrooge, in Barks world:
the Money Bin itself. Meanwhile, the people from the French _Picsou
Magazine_ had asked me to write a story for the fiftieth anniversary of
the appearance of the Beagle Boys and the Money Bin and had suggested
that I show the blueprints of the Money Bin.
Thus, I decided to write a story starring the Beagle Boys and the
Money Bin. It is a fight between the Beagle Boys and the Money Bin,
which takes place while Scrooge is away. As usual, my enthusiasm made me
add to my story some specialized information. Thus, I decided to dedicate
some panels to a conversation regarding the origin of the Beagle Boys
gang and the construction of the Money Bin. I included in the story two
pages withe the blueprints of the Money Bin. These blueprints are, to a
large extent, independent of the story. That is, the story can be read by
itself, without the blueprints, and the blueprints can be presented alone,
as a poster. [Komix appear to have chose a third way, as they have printed
the blueprints on both sides of the same page, as an illustration to an
article.] The final blueprints were made on a computer, which allows both
me to make occasional changes and the editors to present them with their
own additions or a different layout. I described to my friend, Dan Shane,
the form that they should have. He sent me, by e-mail, every part that he
completed, for approval. It was a time-consuming process, but it was fun!
Of course I know that the original drawings were not made with a
computer: there were no computers in 1902! You don't need a computer
to draw a straight line, you know! This was the form of architectural
drawings at that time. This is why we took care to draw dimension lines
using the style of that tie, without the arrows at the end which modern
technique demands.
We are also preparing a second edition of the blueprints, which will
be able to be used as a poster on its own. There will be more modern
additions, and floors will be shown. The blueprints that _Komix_ publishes
are the original 1902 blueprints, those that were used in my story. This
is why the modern additions that we'll be making to the poster are not
shown: a computer room with one of those huge Univac computers of the
1950s, which will take half a story and will have the computing power
of a modern calculator.
It was a challenge for me to go through my memories and through
the suggestions of my friends and other friends of the duck world,
to decide which elements I should include in the blueprints and
which to ignore. Many of the rooms that Barks shows are absolutely
essential. However, other rooms or views of the building had been made for
a particular purpose in the set-up of a panel or an entire story. In other
occasions, some rooms are the basis for a throw-away gag. This is how I
treat the Money Bin in my own stories. Therefore, I do not think that
Barks expected that, one day, someone would make a consistent blueprint
of the Money Bin. Besides, I did it only for my own enjoyment. I have
always drawn views of the interior spaces and offices of the Money Bin,
without worrying how they all fit together or whether I am going to draw
the same office in the same way again for a second time. Even now that
the Money Bin blueprints are complete, I doubt whether I am going to be
consulting them the next time that I will be drawing Scrooge's office.
Finally, I intend to leave one or two floors without a description,
so that I can add more elements that I had not imagined previously. In
addition, if a friend of the ducks believes that I have ignored some
element or room that I should have included in my blueprints, he is free
to assume that it is in of of those particular empty floors!
[Signed] Don Rosa
[Caption, p.1, left]
The two first appearances of uncle Scrooge's Money Bin: The exterior
view of the Money Bin was first shown in December 1951 in Carl Barks'
story _The Money Bin on Killmotor Hill_ (_Komix_ #116). However, Barks
himself had shown his hero in the interior of the Money Bin a year
earlier, in July 1950, in his story _The Pixilated Parrot_ (_Komix_
#52), to which the second panel belongs.
[Caption, p.1, center]
The Beagle Boys attempt to break into uncle Scrooge's Money Bin once more,
and Carl Barks finds the inspiration for one more of his oil paintings.
[Side column]
ATTAAAAACK!
The story that inspired Don Rosa to draw the architectural blueprints
of the Money Bin.
_Attaaaaack!_ does not have anything special, it is just a gag that
develops in twelve pages. You will not find any extensive research
in which I could take pride here, there are no details of particular
historic accuracy, not even any hidden references to old Barks stories
or classic movies. I like to write such simple stories occasionally,
but I would soon have become bored I I could not return to the deep and
detailed historic research and other more complex tasks in which I am
completely absorbed. Besides, this is what constitutes food for my mind!
In _Attaaaaack!_, which is the second story after _The Coin_, which I
write for the French _Disney_ editions, the Beagle Boys, Magica de Spell,
and the pig-faced villain (who appears in various roles in Barks' stories)
make brief appearances. An unscheduled, but longer appearance is made by
a new villain of my own creation, Arpene Lusin, the rich international
play-boy burglar, who wants to close his career in glory, by emptying
Scrooge McDuck's Money Bin. Arpene Lusin represents yet another danger
for Scrooge. Lusin does not need Scrooge's money: it is enough for him
to destroy the contents of the Money Bin and to give the impression that
he has stolen them. In this case, Scrooge would have had no chance of
getting back what no longer exists. I have already written a good story
with Arpene Lusin, _The Black Knight_, but the future will show if I
will manage to come up with something else for such a peculiar character.
I would like to point out something more... When I drew the scene where
Scrooge blows up the front of the Money Bin, revealing the office spaces,
I thought that this was the first time when readers can have a full
picture of the construction of the interior of the Money Bin. Thus, I
decided that the moment had come to work on an idea that some publishers
had been asking me to implement for years: the blueprints of the Money
Bin. I finally decided that I could not make these blueprints for
_Attaaaaack!_. However, this idea was implemented a bit later, with the
opportunity of the story which I wrote for the fiftieth anniversary from
the first reference to the Beagle Boys gang and to the Money Bin and of
course, the one hundredth anniversary from the birth of Carl Barks.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fifty years of inventions... The history of a Barksian character
The Ingenious Gyro Gearloose
Fifty years are completed these days from the first appearance of Gyro
Gearloose, the most inventive inventor in the Ninth Art.
Gyro Gearloose is, without doubt, one of the most likable figures in
the world created by Carl Barks. For five decades he has been creating
home appliances at bargain prices and coming up with the most incredible
machines, to order or otherwise. Brilliant, absent-minded, and naive,
Gyro is capable of both solving the most complex problems and of sewing
panic in fractions of a second, each time he loses control of his
strange creations.
THE FIRST APPEARANCES
Gyro Gearloose is a creation of Carl Barks. He made is first appearance in
May, 1952, in the ten-page story _Gladstone's Terrible Secret_, in _Walt
Disney Comics_ magazine. In his first appearance he was a gawky Barksian
fowl of unspecified species, with several extra kilos. In 1953 his tiny
helper appeared, a pocket robot who, although he appears insignificant,
often intervenes, rescuing his master out of a difficult situation.
In 1956, the people at _Wester Publishing_ asked the Duck Man to add to
each issue of _Uncle Scrooge) magazine a short story, in which uncle
Scrooge, Donald, or the nephews did not appear, to take advantage of
some special postal rates. Because of this, Gyro soon took his final
form and became the central character of a series of most enjoyable
short stories. In the 1960s, Gyro got his own comic book, and Carl Barks
created some of his best stories for this short-lived publication.
AN INVENTOR FROM THE CRADLE
What is Gyro's position in the duck universe? Don Rosa has studied
carefully Carl Barks' references to Gyro's past and has managed to include
them in the _Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck_ and the story of Duckburg
in general. Always according to Don, uncle Scrooge met Gyro's great
grandfather, Ratchet Gearloose, in Louisville, Kentucky, in 1880. Ratchet,
an inventor and big-time tinkerer, embarks, along with young Scrooge,
i\on Mississippi's river boats (_The Life * Times of Scrooge McDuck_,
Chapter 2, _Komix_ #101). In 1883, they meet again in Java (_The Cowboy
Captain of the Cutty Sark_, _Komix_ #156). In 1902, uncle Scrooge decides
to settle in Duckburg, and among the kids, who have their headquarters in
old fort Duckburg, is little Fulton Gearloose, Gyro's father: one of the
founding members of the Junior Woodchucks Club. Don reveals more details
about Gyro's past in his new story titled _Gyro's First Invention_,
from which we have obtained and present to you some draft drawings.
IMAGINARY INVENTOR
Gyro Gearloose has a lot in common with his creator, uncle Carl. His
profession has to do with the last, if not the next one, word in
technology, and his place would have reasonably been in some ultramodern
industrial complex... Gyro, however, prefers to work in his humble
workshop. Uncle Carl himself preferred to work at home, secluded in
his studio, far from the din of the offices of the large publishing
hose that published his stories. Gyro is one of those characters who
seem to mirror an aspect of the personality of their creator... Besides,
Barks had admitted that he had always wanted to be an inventor. From the
impressive Paul Bunyan machines (_Komix_ #41) to the atom subtracter in
_The Titanic Ants_ (_Komix_ #70) or the rocket in _The 24 Carat Moon_
(_Komix_ #32), uncle Carl's classic stories are full of fantastic devices,
pioneering vehicles and all sorts of weird gadgets, which appear to have
come out directly from a science fiction movie. The great creator was
an imaginary inventor... and imaginary colleague of his charismatic hero.
[Captions]
[p.1, bottom]
A model sheet by Carl Barks.
[p.1, top right]
GYRO'S EVOLUTION
Gyro's first appearance in the story _Gladstone's Terrible Secret_. One
month later, he obtains a leading part and his look changes... The truth
is that, initially, Barks was used the form of Gus Goose, as he appeared
in the cartoon Interior Decorators. Soon, however, Gyro will obtain his
final look.
[p.2., inset]
DON ROSA'S DRAFT DRAWINGS
Draft drawings by Don Rosa for the story _Gyro's First Invention_. One
of the nephews begins by saying: "Say it is the anniversary of when Gyro
opened his shop. I almost forgot!" And Donald adds: "He's certainly a
genius. Though he seldom seems to think up anything with a practical
value."
UTOPIAN QUESTS
Carl Barks used to have fun by drawing futuristic panels full of the
strangest gadgets. In the story _monsterville_, he shows Gyro Gearloose
dreaming of and building the Duckburg of the future. A Duckburg where
technology is supposed to cater for even the simplest needs of the city's
inhabitants. The results of the experiment are completely the opposite
of what Gyro had hoped. One more bitter, ironic comment by uncle Carl
on blind faith in technology.
[Caption]
Cover from the magazine that was published in America starring Gyro.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Destiny is the art of throwing darts at random and claiming that anything
you hit was the target all along."
-----
Kriton Kyrimis
Fort knox
Message 228 -
2002-07-29 at 09:21:32
CORD:
> The whole thing gets even more complicated since we started using
> money which has no (controllable) physical representation at all:
> Just little numbers on paper or in a computer. What is their worth?
Actually, when we started using paper money, they were more like
checks. Apart from those little numbers that you mention, there was
usually a phrase saying something like "pay to the bearer the sum of
XXX". In old times, you could actually take your paper money to the
bank and exchange them for gold coins of the same value. [I recently
read that this is exactly what people used to do in Greece in times of
economic crisis, which is why the government would temporarily suspend
the exchange of paper money, so that they would not lose their entire
gold stock. Given the frequency of economic crisis in Greece, this was
almost a permanent situation. :( ]
The drachmas that I used to have in my wallet until last year still
said that XXX drachmas were "payable upon display" of each note, even
though I doubt that there was such a thing as golden drachmas other than
a few coins especially minted for collectors. However, the euro notes
that replaced them do not have a similar phrase, which means, I suppose,
that I have to take the European Central Bank's word on what these notes
are worth.
> But in the
> end it all boils down to trust. But trust in whom? In the seller?
> the bank? the government? the future?
In the government. Trust them to make life for you extremely difficult
if you do not accept their money...
And if you think what you've described is complicated, try taking
international exchange rates into account. These last few months, the
dollar has lost something like 10% of its value compared to the euro,
but I doubt that prices in the US have risen significantly during that
period, and I know that they did not drop by an equivalent amount in
Europe. It is actually European prices that have gone up!
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"I'm *depending* on luck, lieutenant; It's almost the only tool we have that
will work now!"
-----
> The whole thing gets even more complicated since we started using
> money which has no (controllable) physical representation at all:
> Just little numbers on paper or in a computer. What is their worth?
Actually, when we started using paper money, they were more like
checks. Apart from those little numbers that you mention, there was
usually a phrase saying something like "pay to the bearer the sum of
XXX". In old times, you could actually take your paper money to the
bank and exchange them for gold coins of the same value. [I recently
read that this is exactly what people used to do in Greece in times of
economic crisis, which is why the government would temporarily suspend
the exchange of paper money, so that they would not lose their entire
gold stock. Given the frequency of economic crisis in Greece, this was
almost a permanent situation. :( ]
The drachmas that I used to have in my wallet until last year still
said that XXX drachmas were "payable upon display" of each note, even
though I doubt that there was such a thing as golden drachmas other than
a few coins especially minted for collectors. However, the euro notes
that replaced them do not have a similar phrase, which means, I suppose,
that I have to take the European Central Bank's word on what these notes
are worth.
> But in the
> end it all boils down to trust. But trust in whom? In the seller?
> the bank? the government? the future?
In the government. Trust them to make life for you extremely difficult
if you do not accept their money...
And if you think what you've described is complicated, try taking
international exchange rates into account. These last few months, the
dollar has lost something like 10% of its value compared to the euro,
but I doubt that prices in the US have risen significantly during that
period, and I know that they did not drop by an equivalent amount in
Europe. It is actually European prices that have gone up!
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"I'm *depending* on luck, lieutenant; It's almost the only tool we have that
will work now!"
-----
Arttu Salminen
Don Rosa -covers
Message 229 -
2002-07-29 at 10:32:43
Sorry for this being a bit off-topic...
This is my second mail on this. I need the scans of the covers of Don Rosa's
Comics and Stories 1-2 and The Captain Kentucky Collection 1-3, and (as text
or as a scan) the forewords on Don Rosa's Comics and Stories #1. I need them
for an article I'm making, and I'd really appreciate it if some friendly
soul could sent them to me or tell me where I could find them.
Arttu Salminen
arttusal at perunamaa.net
This is my second mail on this. I need the scans of the covers of Don Rosa's
Comics and Stories 1-2 and The Captain Kentucky Collection 1-3, and (as text
or as a scan) the forewords on Don Rosa's Comics and Stories #1. I need them
for an article I'm making, and I'd really appreciate it if some friendly
soul could sent them to me or tell me where I could find them.
Arttu Salminen
arttusal at perunamaa.net
Ari Seppi
An Italian series about the Clan McDuck
Message 230 -
2002-07-29 at 11:00:28
Sigvald:
>In one of the big white books "Det var en gang",
>published in Norway in 1992, there are the 3 first of
>8 chapters of an Italian series (published in Topolino
>in April-May 1970) about the Clan McDuck.
>2. Can anyone come up with summaries of the last 5
>chapters here on DCML?
Chapter 4: Not published in Finland.
Chapter 5: Ducks in Spain
Scrooge arranges a bullfight and Donald is the matador, they plan
to use a tame bull, but Gladstone has different plans and Donald
ends up running.
Chapter 6: Ducks in Florida
Donald is a famous pirate and Rockerduck and Beagle Boys are
after him.
Chapter 7: Ducks in Missisippi
Scrooge tries to make money during Civil War.
Chapter 8: Ducks in Alaska
Scrooge and Rockerduck settle old scores of their ancestors, fall in
love (no, not with each other :-) ) and have children.
>3. Who made this series?
Guido Martina, Romano Scarpa, Giorgio Cavazzano and
Giovan Battista Carpi.
More accurately, for example:
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/issue.php/0/it/LGPM++1
--
Ari Seppi (ari.seppi at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
Winnie the Pooh is my great guru.
>In one of the big white books "Det var en gang",
>published in Norway in 1992, there are the 3 first of
>8 chapters of an Italian series (published in Topolino
>in April-May 1970) about the Clan McDuck.
>2. Can anyone come up with summaries of the last 5
>chapters here on DCML?
Chapter 4: Not published in Finland.
Chapter 5: Ducks in Spain
Scrooge arranges a bullfight and Donald is the matador, they plan
to use a tame bull, but Gladstone has different plans and Donald
ends up running.
Chapter 6: Ducks in Florida
Donald is a famous pirate and Rockerduck and Beagle Boys are
after him.
Chapter 7: Ducks in Missisippi
Scrooge tries to make money during Civil War.
Chapter 8: Ducks in Alaska
Scrooge and Rockerduck settle old scores of their ancestors, fall in
love (no, not with each other :-) ) and have children.
>3. Who made this series?
Guido Martina, Romano Scarpa, Giorgio Cavazzano and
Giovan Battista Carpi.
More accurately, for example:
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/issue.php/0/it/LGPM++1
--
Ari Seppi (ari.seppi at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
Winnie the Pooh is my great guru.
Lgiver
Gyro's practical invention
Message 231 -
2002-07-29 at 11:18:06
Following up on the discussion of Gyro's 50-year history, he did indeed
make his first appearance in the DD 10-page story "Gladstone's Terrible
Secret". In those 4 panels, he gave up trying to make butter from cream
by hopping on a pogo stick, gave those things to Gladstone, and said he
would return to his home to invent "butterless buttered popcorn". Barks
may have thought that was an impractical and silly idea in 1952, but
Gyro must have been very successful, as butterless buttered popcorn is
today very popular, both in movie theaters and in bags to microwave at
home. Since Gyro did early work on butter-flavor substitutes (not just
margerine), and we know he often applies for patents, I wonder if he's
collecting royalties for this invention. More likely all royalties from
Gyro's patents were assigned to the Disney Corporation.
----Larry Giver.
make his first appearance in the DD 10-page story "Gladstone's Terrible
Secret". In those 4 panels, he gave up trying to make butter from cream
by hopping on a pogo stick, gave those things to Gladstone, and said he
would return to his home to invent "butterless buttered popcorn". Barks
may have thought that was an impractical and silly idea in 1952, but
Gyro must have been very successful, as butterless buttered popcorn is
today very popular, both in movie theaters and in bags to microwave at
home. Since Gyro did early work on butter-flavor substitutes (not just
margerine), and we know he often applies for patents, I wonder if he's
collecting royalties for this invention. More likely all royalties from
Gyro's patents were assigned to the Disney Corporation.
----Larry Giver.
Lgiver
Carl Barks, professor of economics
Message 232 -
2002-07-29 at 11:42:58
Still more discussion of money, value, economics, etc. At the end of
his seminar, HorizonHse asks "how did we get on this topic?" Clearly,
Scrooge is very interested in money, value, and economics, and this
interest is transmitted to his readers and fans. Indeed, Carl Barks was
truly my first professor of economics. Consider one of the early Donald
Duck 10-page stories that had Scrooge: "A Financial Fable" C&S 126,
March 1951. Donald is unhappy with his job working on Scrooge's farm,
and wishes for a windfall of riches. But to not be greedy just for
himself, he wished that everyone could have a million dollars, and then
no one would have to work. And that's what happened when a tornado
emptied Scrooge's 3 cubic acre corn-crib money bin, putting all that
cash in many other people's hands and back into circulation. Then
since many people were instantly rich, they perceived they no longer
have to work for money and quit their jobs. With very few people
working, the economy came to a stand-still, and scarcity followed. With
lots of money in circulation, but very few goods (Scrooge's farm was the
last source of food), a huge inflation followed. Donald had to spend
his million dollars to get a few things to eat and beg Uncle Scrooge to
give him his job back. I learned all this economic stuff from this
story and many others by Carl Barks---it certainly wasn't taught in the
schools. So I expect this is true for other fans, too--knowledge of
financial and economic things entered our heads at an early age from
reading Scrooge stories by Carl Barks.
his seminar, HorizonHse asks "how did we get on this topic?" Clearly,
Scrooge is very interested in money, value, and economics, and this
interest is transmitted to his readers and fans. Indeed, Carl Barks was
truly my first professor of economics. Consider one of the early Donald
Duck 10-page stories that had Scrooge: "A Financial Fable" C&S 126,
March 1951. Donald is unhappy with his job working on Scrooge's farm,
and wishes for a windfall of riches. But to not be greedy just for
himself, he wished that everyone could have a million dollars, and then
no one would have to work. And that's what happened when a tornado
emptied Scrooge's 3 cubic acre corn-crib money bin, putting all that
cash in many other people's hands and back into circulation. Then
since many people were instantly rich, they perceived they no longer
have to work for money and quit their jobs. With very few people
working, the economy came to a stand-still, and scarcity followed. With
lots of money in circulation, but very few goods (Scrooge's farm was the
last source of food), a huge inflation followed. Donald had to spend
his million dollars to get a few things to eat and beg Uncle Scrooge to
give him his job back. I learned all this economic stuff from this
story and many others by Carl Barks---it certainly wasn't taught in the
schools. So I expect this is true for other fans, too--knowledge of
financial and economic things entered our heads at an early age from
reading Scrooge stories by Carl Barks.
Johan Nordkvist
Don Rosa book
Message 233 -
2002-07-29 at 14:26:41
I NEED MORE NAMES !!
PLEASE!
Original message below.
READ AND RESPOND!
don_rosa_book at nordkvist.zzn.com
You dont have to enter *all* the
info I required (name, e-mail, location)
if thats what stopping you
(although I can't imagine why though)
but at least send me a mail
As published in:
DCML digest, Vol 1 #1013 - 12 msgs
Message: 2
From: "Johan Nordkvist" <johan at nordkvist.zzn.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:47:18 +0200
To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
Subject: Rosa book
Hi
I would like to have some hardcover books
with Don Rosa comics, would you ??
When I spoke to Egmont some time
ago they said they were waiting
for more Rosa comics before they'd be
printing some books. But I think
there is enough to start printing
some books, I hope you all agree!
Send a mail in this form
Name
E-mail
Location
example:
Johan Nordkvist
johan at nordkvist.zzn.com
J?mtland, Sweden
to this adress
don_rosa_book at nordkvist.zzn.com
When I'get enough names I'll send
the list to Egmont, maybe they'll
start printing some books then!
Have fun !
Johan Nordkvist
SO COME ON AND WRITE TO ME!
don_rosa_book at nordkvist.zzn.com
http://www.nordkvist.zzn.com
_______________________________________________________________
Skaffa din egen webbaserade E-post Tj?nst p? http://www.zzn.com
PLEASE!
Original message below.
READ AND RESPOND!
don_rosa_book at nordkvist.zzn.com
You dont have to enter *all* the
info I required (name, e-mail, location)
if thats what stopping you
(although I can't imagine why though)
but at least send me a mail
As published in:
DCML digest, Vol 1 #1013 - 12 msgs
Message: 2
From: "Johan Nordkvist" <johan at nordkvist.zzn.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2002 12:47:18 +0200
To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
Subject: Rosa book
Hi
I would like to have some hardcover books
with Don Rosa comics, would you ??
When I spoke to Egmont some time
ago they said they were waiting
for more Rosa comics before they'd be
printing some books. But I think
there is enough to start printing
some books, I hope you all agree!
Send a mail in this form
Name
Location
example:
Johan Nordkvist
johan at nordkvist.zzn.com
J?mtland, Sweden
to this adress
don_rosa_book at nordkvist.zzn.com
When I'get enough names I'll send
the list to Egmont, maybe they'll
start printing some books then!
Have fun !
Johan Nordkvist
SO COME ON AND WRITE TO ME!
don_rosa_book at nordkvist.zzn.com
http://www.nordkvist.zzn.com
_______________________________________________________________
Skaffa din egen webbaserade E-post Tj?nst p? http://www.zzn.com
Frank Bubacz
L'inferno di Topolino
Message 234 -
2002-07-29 at 19:18:31
Hi,
I read "L'inferno di Topolino" recently (the German version) and wonder what
exactly was censored in this story. Can anybody enlighten me? Also, I seem
to remember that I once saw some of the censored panels in the internet, but
can't remember where. Help!
Frank
_________________________________________________________________
Testen Sie MSN Messenger f?r Ihren Online-Chat mit Freunden:
http://messenger.msn.de
I read "L'inferno di Topolino" recently (the German version) and wonder what
exactly was censored in this story. Can anybody enlighten me? Also, I seem
to remember that I once saw some of the censored panels in the internet, but
can't remember where. Help!
Frank
_________________________________________________________________
Testen Sie MSN Messenger f?r Ihren Online-Chat mit Freunden:
http://messenger.msn.de
Ari Seppi
L'inferno di Topolino
Message 235 -
2002-07-29 at 19:38:09
Frank:
>I read "L'inferno di Topolino" recently (the German version) and wonder
>what exactly was censored in this story. Can anybody enlighten me?
Based on the earlier discussion on the list: panels where
characters were cut in pieces with fans are censored.
>Also, I seem to remember that I once saw some of the censored panels in
>the internet, but can't remember where. Help!
You might remember the scans Paolo Castagno took
for the earlier discussion, but those panels are no longer
on-line.
--
Ari Seppi (ari.seppi at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
Winnie the Pooh is my great guru.
>I read "L'inferno di Topolino" recently (the German version) and wonder
>what exactly was censored in this story. Can anybody enlighten me?
Based on the earlier discussion on the list: panels where
characters were cut in pieces with fans are censored.
>Also, I seem to remember that I once saw some of the censored panels in
>the internet, but can't remember where. Help!
You might remember the scans Paolo Castagno took
for the earlier discussion, but those panels are no longer
on-line.
--
Ari Seppi (ari.seppi at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
Winnie the Pooh is my great guru.
99E
Carl Barks, professor of economics
Message 236 -
2002-07-29 at 22:16:15
Yeah,..
And as far as I remember, Barks once said, that wir?th this story he'd told
the truth about socialism - or something like that...
Hug Your Ducks,
99E
"Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left To Loose..."
www.99e.dk
----- Original Message -----
From: <lgiver at postoffice.pacbell.net>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:42 AM
Subject: Carl Barks, professor of economics
> Still more discussion of money, value, economics, etc. At the end of
> his seminar, HorizonHse asks "how did we get on this topic?" Clearly,
> Scrooge is very interested in money, value, and economics, and this
> interest is transmitted to his readers and fans. Indeed, Carl Barks was
> truly my first professor of economics. Consider one of the early Donald
> Duck 10-page stories that had Scrooge: "A Financial Fable" C&S 126,
> March 1951. Donald is unhappy with his job working on Scrooge's farm,
> and wishes for a windfall of riches. But to not be greedy just for
> himself, he wished that everyone could have a million dollars, and then
> no one would have to work. And that's what happened when a tornado
> emptied Scrooge's 3 cubic acre corn-crib money bin, putting all that
> cash in many other people's hands and back into circulation. Then
> since many people were instantly rich, they perceived they no longer
> have to work for money and quit their jobs. With very few people
> working, the economy came to a stand-still, and scarcity followed. With
> lots of money in circulation, but very few goods (Scrooge's farm was the
> last source of food), a huge inflation followed. Donald had to spend
> his million dollars to get a few things to eat and beg Uncle Scrooge to
> give him his job back. I learned all this economic stuff from this
> story and many others by Carl Barks---it certainly wasn't taught in the
> schools. So I expect this is true for other fans, too--knowledge of
> financial and economic things entered our heads at an early age from
> reading Scrooge stories by Carl Barks.
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
And as far as I remember, Barks once said, that wir?th this story he'd told
the truth about socialism - or something like that...
Hug Your Ducks,
99E
"Freedom's Just Another Word For Nothing Left To Loose..."
www.99e.dk
----- Original Message -----
From: <lgiver at postoffice.pacbell.net>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:42 AM
Subject: Carl Barks, professor of economics
> Still more discussion of money, value, economics, etc. At the end of
> his seminar, HorizonHse asks "how did we get on this topic?" Clearly,
> Scrooge is very interested in money, value, and economics, and this
> interest is transmitted to his readers and fans. Indeed, Carl Barks was
> truly my first professor of economics. Consider one of the early Donald
> Duck 10-page stories that had Scrooge: "A Financial Fable" C&S 126,
> March 1951. Donald is unhappy with his job working on Scrooge's farm,
> and wishes for a windfall of riches. But to not be greedy just for
> himself, he wished that everyone could have a million dollars, and then
> no one would have to work. And that's what happened when a tornado
> emptied Scrooge's 3 cubic acre corn-crib money bin, putting all that
> cash in many other people's hands and back into circulation. Then
> since many people were instantly rich, they perceived they no longer
> have to work for money and quit their jobs. With very few people
> working, the economy came to a stand-still, and scarcity followed. With
> lots of money in circulation, but very few goods (Scrooge's farm was the
> last source of food), a huge inflation followed. Donald had to spend
> his million dollars to get a few things to eat and beg Uncle Scrooge to
> give him his job back. I learned all this economic stuff from this
> story and many others by Carl Barks---it certainly wasn't taught in the
> schools. So I expect this is true for other fans, too--knowledge of
> financial and economic things entered our heads at an early age from
> reading Scrooge stories by Carl Barks.
>
> _______________________________________________
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
Per Martinson
Don Rosa book
Message 237 -
2002-07-30 at 12:03:13
I have to say I disagree. I think Egmont have released too much hardcover
books already, and it's time to release some cheaper albums. I don't like
these expensive hardcover books, that you nearly cannot touch, because they
will loose their value. Comics are made to be read, then cheaper albums will
make it possible for more people to read them.
I also think, I know this might be provocative, that Don Rosa isn't such a
good comic writer. He is a good donaldist, but he doesn't write anything
really new and innovative, he only uses things that Barks created. Why is
everything Barks made seen as law? He was an incomparably good writer, but
that was to a large extent because he made so much new things. There is many
other writers today that makes this much better than Don Rosa. Why is people
today only talking about him?
If everyone would write comics based on Barks' facts we wouldn't have
anything new to read and discuss. That's why I think Don Rosa shuold just
stay as a donaldist, and not write comics, and that's also why I think other
writers should get more space.
I even want to point out that Egmont alreadey has released "The Life and
Times of Scrooge McDuck" in hardcover, isn't it time for someone else now?!!
Per Martinson
books already, and it's time to release some cheaper albums. I don't like
these expensive hardcover books, that you nearly cannot touch, because they
will loose their value. Comics are made to be read, then cheaper albums will
make it possible for more people to read them.
I also think, I know this might be provocative, that Don Rosa isn't such a
good comic writer. He is a good donaldist, but he doesn't write anything
really new and innovative, he only uses things that Barks created. Why is
everything Barks made seen as law? He was an incomparably good writer, but
that was to a large extent because he made so much new things. There is many
other writers today that makes this much better than Don Rosa. Why is people
today only talking about him?
If everyone would write comics based on Barks' facts we wouldn't have
anything new to read and discuss. That's why I think Don Rosa shuold just
stay as a donaldist, and not write comics, and that's also why I think other
writers should get more space.
I even want to point out that Egmont alreadey has released "The Life and
Times of Scrooge McDuck" in hardcover, isn't it time for someone else now?!!
Per Martinson
Anders Christian Sivebaek
Summer report 1
Message 238 -
2002-07-30 at 14:32:42
Hi all
To whom it may interest here's the first of two reports of what I've
been doing this summer - on-topic-wise that is.
Started out in the end of june by driving all the way to Vaucluse,
France (Near provence, Avignon and Mont Ventaux). In well time before I
had mailed with Francois and found out about 3 second-hand-comic shops
in Avignon.
On the way to Southern France we stopped at a number of gas station and
I found the Sonderheft and Pocketbook that i usually want for souvenirs
from this part of Europe. (I'm a subscirber to the weekly Micky Maus,
so i didn't need that).
For the night we stopped in Mulhouse, just past the borderline - In a
mall there I found the new Picsou Mag, the new Journal de Mickey and an
extra copy of Picsou 349 with the Sharpie of Culebra Cut. - I'm sorry
to admit being some kind of vulgar donaldist as it was probably my own
fault when my scanner ate a corner of the cover of my first copy of the
issue.
Further on we drove to the little village Mallemort du Comtat - I'm
convinced that we were the only, at least danish, tourists in town. The
owner of the 3 metres wide house (very long) we lived in was a very
nice elderly man who was kind to suplly us with spices, beans,
courgettes and figs. I got very friendly with his cat too, I allowed
myself to call him Oscar, which he didn't seem to mind.
One of the first days we went to carpentras where we did pass a closed
second-hand-store. another one which we passed on the way to the car
was extremely interesting for me. It was called Shakespeare - the owner
was english and had a wide selection of english authors, including of
course a section with Shakespeare - so I bought the collected works of
Shakespeare for 8 euroes - in France!
Since then I've read both hamlet and Romeo and Juliet (spoiler ahead!)
and it didn't excactly make me happier than I already was to read that
they all die in those plays...
Why would I be a bit sad when I was on a nice trip to southern France
with 35 degreses celsius every day? Well, I guess I missed one certain
person back in Denmark - but I'll include that a bit later, as it
actually gets on-topic in a totally insane way...
Also in Carpentras we visited a bookstore where I saw the wide
selection of my favorite genre that the french publisher offer for the
children - Fantasy, including, Harry Potter, Philip Pullman, Tolkien,
C. S. Lewis, Diane Wynne-Jones and the like.
The day came when we drove to Avignon - and I had top slap myself in
the face when remembering halfway there that I had forgotten my print
of Francois' mail with 3 adresses for good second-hand-shops in the
city... but well, all settled after we had visited the castle of the
Avignon-pope - a very interesting place, that our french friends here
well be able to tell you more about the history behind. The tourist
information was able to tell me two of the shops I had to go to. so we
went there. The first place the owner did have some old Journal de
Mickey, but I was looking for Picsous, so I just looked at the wide
selection of other albums in the store, especially french ones. - The
next store could show some old Mickey pockets, among which I bought one
with the gold nugget boat-story by Barks - only old Picsous there.
I had gotten a lot of my french back so I was able to ask the owner
about the 3rd store Francois had told me about. He knew where it was -
just in the neighbourhood, so we went there, and even found a 4th store
too. But none of these places I found the Picsous I had been looking
for - I saw the many french comics that I like, and of course had to
buy the first issue of Asterix (le Galois).
I brought all my own Picsous with me and a comparisson doesn't do the
new issues good at all. What did you say happened with the old editor?
He was promoted or such? well, it shows!
Picsou is reprinting the Lo$ - everytime with the same picture of
little Scrooge was 1877, everytime with awfull coloring (comapared to
colorings of the Coin, Attaaaaaack and Sharpie the coloring is trash...
sorry to say it) and some times with cuttings of the splash panel.
And of course there's allways the french tradtion of pages about
movies, videogames and such things, which are only going to close the
comics at some point.
Sad.
A couple of days before my mother and I went on this trip I had started
to keep a diary of my dreams - what insane things happen in them is
strange. The craziest one I had on the last night before we were
leaving Southern France - When I woke up I had to yell no, as it was
all too unlikely. But it hadn't been in the dream. I had only been
confused that a girl I see as my best friend, and another were in the
newest Donald Duck pocket book (humans, on pictures in a pocket
book??), as they hadn't told me about it, knowing that i would have
liked to know...
Thinking about it, it would never be possible, but it just shows what
my brain was thinking of - donald duck - and her...
That's all I have to tell about the trip to France - Next time i would
like to meet with some of you list members - I just got the idea that
none of you live quite near Vaucluse and France is BIG.
Yours sincerely
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
To whom it may interest here's the first of two reports of what I've
been doing this summer - on-topic-wise that is.
Started out in the end of june by driving all the way to Vaucluse,
France (Near provence, Avignon and Mont Ventaux). In well time before I
had mailed with Francois and found out about 3 second-hand-comic shops
in Avignon.
On the way to Southern France we stopped at a number of gas station and
I found the Sonderheft and Pocketbook that i usually want for souvenirs
from this part of Europe. (I'm a subscirber to the weekly Micky Maus,
so i didn't need that).
For the night we stopped in Mulhouse, just past the borderline - In a
mall there I found the new Picsou Mag, the new Journal de Mickey and an
extra copy of Picsou 349 with the Sharpie of Culebra Cut. - I'm sorry
to admit being some kind of vulgar donaldist as it was probably my own
fault when my scanner ate a corner of the cover of my first copy of the
issue.
Further on we drove to the little village Mallemort du Comtat - I'm
convinced that we were the only, at least danish, tourists in town. The
owner of the 3 metres wide house (very long) we lived in was a very
nice elderly man who was kind to suplly us with spices, beans,
courgettes and figs. I got very friendly with his cat too, I allowed
myself to call him Oscar, which he didn't seem to mind.
One of the first days we went to carpentras where we did pass a closed
second-hand-store. another one which we passed on the way to the car
was extremely interesting for me. It was called Shakespeare - the owner
was english and had a wide selection of english authors, including of
course a section with Shakespeare - so I bought the collected works of
Shakespeare for 8 euroes - in France!
Since then I've read both hamlet and Romeo and Juliet (spoiler ahead!)
and it didn't excactly make me happier than I already was to read that
they all die in those plays...
Why would I be a bit sad when I was on a nice trip to southern France
with 35 degreses celsius every day? Well, I guess I missed one certain
person back in Denmark - but I'll include that a bit later, as it
actually gets on-topic in a totally insane way...
Also in Carpentras we visited a bookstore where I saw the wide
selection of my favorite genre that the french publisher offer for the
children - Fantasy, including, Harry Potter, Philip Pullman, Tolkien,
C. S. Lewis, Diane Wynne-Jones and the like.
The day came when we drove to Avignon - and I had top slap myself in
the face when remembering halfway there that I had forgotten my print
of Francois' mail with 3 adresses for good second-hand-shops in the
city... but well, all settled after we had visited the castle of the
Avignon-pope - a very interesting place, that our french friends here
well be able to tell you more about the history behind. The tourist
information was able to tell me two of the shops I had to go to. so we
went there. The first place the owner did have some old Journal de
Mickey, but I was looking for Picsous, so I just looked at the wide
selection of other albums in the store, especially french ones. - The
next store could show some old Mickey pockets, among which I bought one
with the gold nugget boat-story by Barks - only old Picsous there.
I had gotten a lot of my french back so I was able to ask the owner
about the 3rd store Francois had told me about. He knew where it was -
just in the neighbourhood, so we went there, and even found a 4th store
too. But none of these places I found the Picsous I had been looking
for - I saw the many french comics that I like, and of course had to
buy the first issue of Asterix (le Galois).
I brought all my own Picsous with me and a comparisson doesn't do the
new issues good at all. What did you say happened with the old editor?
He was promoted or such? well, it shows!
Picsou is reprinting the Lo$ - everytime with the same picture of
little Scrooge was 1877, everytime with awfull coloring (comapared to
colorings of the Coin, Attaaaaaack and Sharpie the coloring is trash...
sorry to say it) and some times with cuttings of the splash panel.
And of course there's allways the french tradtion of pages about
movies, videogames and such things, which are only going to close the
comics at some point.
Sad.
A couple of days before my mother and I went on this trip I had started
to keep a diary of my dreams - what insane things happen in them is
strange. The craziest one I had on the last night before we were
leaving Southern France - When I woke up I had to yell no, as it was
all too unlikely. But it hadn't been in the dream. I had only been
confused that a girl I see as my best friend, and another were in the
newest Donald Duck pocket book (humans, on pictures in a pocket
book??), as they hadn't told me about it, knowing that i would have
liked to know...
Thinking about it, it would never be possible, but it just shows what
my brain was thinking of - donald duck - and her...
That's all I have to tell about the trip to France - Next time i would
like to meet with some of you list members - I just got the idea that
none of you live quite near Vaucluse and France is BIG.
Yours sincerely
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
Brigitta McDuck
Don Rosa book
Message 239 -
2002-07-30 at 14:38:58
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From: "Per Martinson"<per.martinson at home.se>
> I don't like these expensive hardcover books, that you nearly cannot touch, because they will loose their value.
Comics are made to be read, then cheaper albums will
>make it possible for more people to read them.
If you handle any book or comic in the proper way, you can manage to read everything. I believe that new readers could be discouraged by big hardcover volumes, for the comic is often considered a "quick" reading, but I am not intimidated by a good quality book.
>I also think, I know this might be provocative, that Don Rosa isn't such a good comic writer. He is a good donaldist, but he doesn't write anything really new and innovative, he only uses things that Barks created.
I do not agree, I am afraid. It is not easy to develop new and original stories with so "traditional" and "closed" environment. Personally, I have loved and I have several edition of "The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck", and I think that it has helped many readers in re - discovering Disney comics.
> There is many other writers today that makes this much better than Don Rosa. Why is people today only talking about him?
I am Italian, so I have access to a huge amount of Disney comics, good and bad, old and new, "classic" and innovative. But Don Rosa is on this list, and he cares answering our questions and debating his work. Not so many authors are like this.
> I think other writers should get more space.
this is true, but it depends from the editors, not the writers.
Gabriella Rizzo
Disney fan from Italy
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From: "Per Martinson"<per.martinson at home.se>
> I don't like these expensive hardcover books, that you nearly cannot touch, because they will loose their value.
Comics are made to be read, then cheaper albums will
>make it possible for more people to read them.
If you handle any book or comic in the proper way, you can manage to read everything. I believe that new readers could be discouraged by big hardcover volumes, for the comic is often considered a "quick" reading, but I am not intimidated by a good quality book.
>I also think, I know this might be provocative, that Don Rosa isn't such a good comic writer. He is a good donaldist, but he doesn't write anything really new and innovative, he only uses things that Barks created.
I do not agree, I am afraid. It is not easy to develop new and original stories with so "traditional" and "closed" environment. Personally, I have loved and I have several edition of "The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck", and I think that it has helped many readers in re - discovering Disney comics.
> There is many other writers today that makes this much better than Don Rosa. Why is people today only talking about him?
I am Italian, so I have access to a huge amount of Disney comics, good and bad, old and new, "classic" and innovative. But Don Rosa is on this list, and he cares answering our questions and debating his work. Not so many authors are like this.
> I think other writers should get more space.
this is true, but it depends from the editors, not the writers.
Gabriella Rizzo
Disney fan from Italy
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Message 240 -
2002-07-30 at 15:55:08
PER MARTINSON WROTE:
> I also think, I know this might be provocative, that Don Rosa isn't such a
> good comic writer. He is a good donaldist, but he doesn't write anything
> really new and innovative, he only uses things that Barks created. Why is
> everything Barks made seen as law? He was an incomparably good writer, but
> that was to a large extent because he made so much new things.
AND I RESPOND:
Barks created many of the characters in his stories, and others he made his
own by pure creative force. It isn't surprising that other writers would
want to emulate the style that entertained so many for decades. I like to
compare the Duck "mythology" to the Oz stories of Baum. He had successors
who built on his creations, and in many instances made the series richer.
Ruth Plumly Thompson was the best of these in my opinion, and she authored
books that were a good mix of new and established characters and places.
The work of Don and others use Barks' work as a foundation, and there is
little doubt that Don is at the forefront of those who use Barksian "facts"
as background for further Duck adventures. Others, such as Van Horn, don't
rely so heavily (or at all) on the Ducks' "past." There is plenty of room
for both, but I'm not surprised at the popularity of stories that provide a
continuity to the lives of the Ducks. Such consistency makes the characters
seem more real to me, taking them out of the realm of standard funny animal
fare.
What ever Don adds that is "new" may be too subtle for you to notice, but it
is there. He didn't create the Money Bin, but it was a long time before
anyone tackled the daunting task of providing detailed plans of the
structure. I would say that the design he came up with was innovative.
Anyone could say, "Here's a big square building filled with cash." To
actually represent that in pseudo-authentic plans to the level that Don did
required creative juices that few possess. Some would find such attention
to detail irritating and pointless, but others thought it warranted
inclusion in newspaper articles.
> I also think, I know this might be provocative, that Don Rosa isn't such a
> good comic writer. He is a good donaldist, but he doesn't write anything
> really new and innovative, he only uses things that Barks created. Why is
> everything Barks made seen as law? He was an incomparably good writer, but
> that was to a large extent because he made so much new things.
AND I RESPOND:
Barks created many of the characters in his stories, and others he made his
own by pure creative force. It isn't surprising that other writers would
want to emulate the style that entertained so many for decades. I like to
compare the Duck "mythology" to the Oz stories of Baum. He had successors
who built on his creations, and in many instances made the series richer.
Ruth Plumly Thompson was the best of these in my opinion, and she authored
books that were a good mix of new and established characters and places.
The work of Don and others use Barks' work as a foundation, and there is
little doubt that Don is at the forefront of those who use Barksian "facts"
as background for further Duck adventures. Others, such as Van Horn, don't
rely so heavily (or at all) on the Ducks' "past." There is plenty of room
for both, but I'm not surprised at the popularity of stories that provide a
continuity to the lives of the Ducks. Such consistency makes the characters
seem more real to me, taking them out of the realm of standard funny animal
fare.
What ever Don adds that is "new" may be too subtle for you to notice, but it
is there. He didn't create the Money Bin, but it was a long time before
anyone tackled the daunting task of providing detailed plans of the
structure. I would say that the design he came up with was innovative.
Anyone could say, "Here's a big square building filled with cash." To
actually represent that in pseudo-authentic plans to the level that Don did
required creative juices that few possess. Some would find such attention
to detail irritating and pointless, but others thought it warranted
inclusion in newspaper articles.