In an interview in TEGN #1/1986 by Tor ?demark, Helene C. Kl?vstad, translator
of Norwegian Donald Duck & Co 1948-1960, says that she often was handed pages
in Swedish or Danish - which she found annoying, as she was not as "free" as if
she'd gotten the American originals. So yes - this is nothing but a _fact_. It
_was_ quite usual that the Gutenberghus translators often had just another
country's translation to translate.
Besides, that's quite obvious. The perfect example and evidence is "The
screaming cowboy" - which was translated into "Den hulkende s?mand" in Denmark
and "Den sorgfulle sj?mann" in Norway. For those who don't understand
Danish/Norwegian, a "sj?mann/s?mand" is a sailor on the sea and has nothing to
do with cowboys at all.
"Skjenk meg en grav i det iskalde hav, la b?lgene kvele min gr?t"
Olaf the Blue
Author
Topic: 200207
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Olaf Solstrand
The Margarine Mystery
Message 136 -
2002-07-11 at 15:57:29
Olivier
Don Rosa Posters
Message 137 -
2002-07-11 at 16:10:28
Hi everyone!
>> By the way. The pin-ups published in Picsou are they covers or miniature posters?
They were "inside covers", ie, on the back of the (glossy) front cover.
Olivier
>> By the way. The pin-ups published in Picsou are they covers or miniature posters?
They were "inside covers", ie, on the back of the (glossy) front cover.
Olivier
Erik Arnesen
Coloring the comics
Message 138 -
2002-07-11 at 22:01:00
Who are coloring the comics, - are the drawers doing it themselves, or is it
done by others.
By hand or by computers?
And has somebody got a clue why Scrooge's walking stick is blue in Norway,
and brown in i.e USA?
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done by others.
By hand or by computers?
And has somebody got a clue why Scrooge's walking stick is blue in Norway,
and brown in i.e USA?
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Anniversary
Message 139 -
2002-07-12 at 00:59:47
Harry wrote:
>If so, that would be on August 3rd, exactly 10 years
>after the first mail message was sent.
Interesting.
That means I sent my first DCML-message exactly two
weeks after the list's last anniversary (5 years).
I'll also have an anniversary soon, too... :-)
?yvind
>If so, that would be on August 3rd, exactly 10 years
>after the first mail message was sent.
Interesting.
That means I sent my first DCML-message exactly two
weeks after the list's last anniversary (5 years).
I'll also have an anniversary soon, too... :-)
?yvind
H.W.Fluks
News from Holland
Message 140 -
2002-07-12 at 14:20:39
Yesterday I visited the Dutch editors for doing some indexing for INDUCKS.
News:
The weeklies from 1953 will be reprinted in 2 deluxe albums (EUR 34,50
each). Release planned for week 34.
(I've been told that new releases are announced on the website
www.xs4all.nl/~rslegt, under "Verwacht/Nieuw")
Donald Duck POCKET 89, "De Zebra-mossel", is planned for week 38. It
contains a full-colour reprint of pocket book 1 (series 1).
In 2 months or so, the new OOM DAGOBERT album will be released. Number 68.
Contents still all-Rosa: D 96089 (Pizen Bluff), D 91076 (Super Snooper), AR
143 (Nostrildamus).
DONALD DUCK EXTRA #10 will contain a Jippes story: D 2001-040. Number 11
will contain an Italian Scarpa story. They plan to have more variety like
that, instead of Egmont-only. This makes DD EXTRA more interesting to me!
(This month's issue contains an old Bradbury story that was never printed in
Holland before - taken from MAESTRI DISNEY or ZIO PAPERONE.)
Jippes' redrawing of Barks' "High-wire heroes" (H 98254) will finally be
printed, in weekly 34.
(Any "Danish" stories by Jippes will be reprinted in Holland after they have
been published in Denmark or Germany.)
Somewhere in fall 2002, album BIG FUN #4 will be released. Not a copy of a
Danish BIG FUN this time, but an all-reprint issue with stories from
DUBBELALBUM and DUCKTALES.
BESTE VERHALEN #112 contains the Italian version of "Back to the Klondike",
including the colouring! Except for the 1/2 page of new artwork, for which
they used the Jippes inked version. BESTE VERHALEB #113 will again contain
an Italian version, this time of "The Philosopher's Stone". Thanks to ZIO
PAPERONE we get to see these stories in excellent condition!
--Harry.
News:
The weeklies from 1953 will be reprinted in 2 deluxe albums (EUR 34,50
each). Release planned for week 34.
(I've been told that new releases are announced on the website
www.xs4all.nl/~rslegt, under "Verwacht/Nieuw")
Donald Duck POCKET 89, "De Zebra-mossel", is planned for week 38. It
contains a full-colour reprint of pocket book 1 (series 1).
In 2 months or so, the new OOM DAGOBERT album will be released. Number 68.
Contents still all-Rosa: D 96089 (Pizen Bluff), D 91076 (Super Snooper), AR
143 (Nostrildamus).
DONALD DUCK EXTRA #10 will contain a Jippes story: D 2001-040. Number 11
will contain an Italian Scarpa story. They plan to have more variety like
that, instead of Egmont-only. This makes DD EXTRA more interesting to me!
(This month's issue contains an old Bradbury story that was never printed in
Holland before - taken from MAESTRI DISNEY or ZIO PAPERONE.)
Jippes' redrawing of Barks' "High-wire heroes" (H 98254) will finally be
printed, in weekly 34.
(Any "Danish" stories by Jippes will be reprinted in Holland after they have
been published in Denmark or Germany.)
Somewhere in fall 2002, album BIG FUN #4 will be released. Not a copy of a
Danish BIG FUN this time, but an all-reprint issue with stories from
DUBBELALBUM and DUCKTALES.
BESTE VERHALEN #112 contains the Italian version of "Back to the Klondike",
including the colouring! Except for the 1/2 page of new artwork, for which
they used the Jippes inked version. BESTE VERHALEB #113 will again contain
an Italian version, this time of "The Philosopher's Stone". Thanks to ZIO
PAPERONE we get to see these stories in excellent condition!
--Harry.
Luca Boschi
News from Holland
Message 141 -
2002-07-12 at 16:03:06
Very, interesting, Harry!
For what concern my interests, expecially for:
> DONALD DUCK EXTRA #10 will contain a Jippes story: D 2001-040
Which story is it? At its first publication ever?
> (This month's issue contains an old Bradbury story that was never printed in
> Holland before - taken from MAESTRI DISNEY or ZIO PAPERONE.)
Surely from Zio Paperone. Very interesting, becouse it means that our
research job is somehow useful for the good comics' diffusion. Can you tell
us which story is it?
In this very month, in two days or so, the new ZP 'll hit the newsstands
with a very, very rare other Bradbury Ducks Summer story. Coming from a
Giant, never reprinted in USA, printed in trimmed/strange form in Italy in
the past (in an article we also show how "strange" were its previous
publishings, with panels by Strobl, Taliaferro and Murry added), completely
restored by... ehm... Let me guess...
I hopo thta readers can appreciate this difficult job...
L.
For what concern my interests, expecially for:
> DONALD DUCK EXTRA #10 will contain a Jippes story: D 2001-040
Which story is it? At its first publication ever?
> (This month's issue contains an old Bradbury story that was never printed in
> Holland before - taken from MAESTRI DISNEY or ZIO PAPERONE.)
Surely from Zio Paperone. Very interesting, becouse it means that our
research job is somehow useful for the good comics' diffusion. Can you tell
us which story is it?
In this very month, in two days or so, the new ZP 'll hit the newsstands
with a very, very rare other Bradbury Ducks Summer story. Coming from a
Giant, never reprinted in USA, printed in trimmed/strange form in Italy in
the past (in an article we also show how "strange" were its previous
publishings, with panels by Strobl, Taliaferro and Murry added), completely
restored by... ehm... Let me guess...
I hopo thta readers can appreciate this difficult job...
L.
CarmenG
Language, movies
Message 142 -
2002-07-12 at 16:48:42
This talk of old movies reminds me of a question I'd like to ask the native
Italian members, who have helped me with my Italian in private e-mails.
In the United States, the movie I Soliti ignoti is called Big Deal on Madonna
Street. That is obviously not the real translation, but can anyone tell me
what I Soliti ignoti means? Is it translatable? Idiomatic?
This is not as off-topic as it seems, for Donald Duck appears in this movie!
Carmen
Italian members, who have helped me with my Italian in private e-mails.
In the United States, the movie I Soliti ignoti is called Big Deal on Madonna
Street. That is obviously not the real translation, but can anyone tell me
what I Soliti ignoti means? Is it translatable? Idiomatic?
This is not as off-topic as it seems, for Donald Duck appears in this movie!
Carmen
Stefan Persson
News from Holland
Message 143 -
2002-07-12 at 17:45:24
----- Original Message -----
From: "Luca Boschi" <cnotw at zen.it>
To: <H.W.Fluks at kpn.com>; <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: News from Holland
> Very, interesting, Harry!
>
> For what concern my interests, expecially for:
>
> > DONALD DUCK EXTRA #10 will contain a Jippes story: D 2001-040
>
> Which story is it? At its first publication ever?
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/D+2001-040//_
Stefan
From: "Luca Boschi" <cnotw at zen.it>
To: <H.W.Fluks at kpn.com>; <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: News from Holland
> Very, interesting, Harry!
>
> For what concern my interests, expecially for:
>
> > DONALD DUCK EXTRA #10 will contain a Jippes story: D 2001-040
>
> Which story is it? At its first publication ever?
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/D+2001-040//_
Stefan
Luca Boschi
Language, movies
Message 144 -
2002-07-12 at 21:25:37
Well...
> This talk of old movies reminds me of a question I'd like to ask the native
> Italian members, who have helped me with my Italian in private e-mails.
> In the United States, the movie I Soliti ignoti is called Big Deal on Madonna
> Street. That is obviously not the real translation, but can anyone tell me
> what I Soliti ignoti means? Is it translatable? Idiomatic?
Not exactly... Literally means "The usual unknowns". It's an expression used
(maybe from the 40es on) to point the small fry crooks who made small
robberies and never go to jail...
Even better, when something is stolen by someone impoble to be recognize, we
say "sporgiamo denuncia contro ignoti" (make a trial against unknown
people).
> This talk of old movies reminds me of a question I'd like to ask the native
> Italian members, who have helped me with my Italian in private e-mails.
> In the United States, the movie I Soliti ignoti is called Big Deal on Madonna
> Street. That is obviously not the real translation, but can anyone tell me
> what I Soliti ignoti means? Is it translatable? Idiomatic?
Not exactly... Literally means "The usual unknowns". It's an expression used
(maybe from the 40es on) to point the small fry crooks who made small
robberies and never go to jail...
Even better, when something is stolen by someone impoble to be recognize, we
say "sporgiamo denuncia contro ignoti" (make a trial against unknown
people).
Luca Boschi
News from Holland
Message 145 -
2002-07-12 at 21:27:57
Thank you a lot, Stefan, for DONALD DUCK EXTRA #10 with the Jippes story!
Luca
Luca
Lgiver
Barks' reference link posted by Johan Nordkvist
Message 146 -
2002-07-14 at 08:32:58
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>Much thanks to Johan Nordkvist for posting the website of Gilles Maurice, filled with Rosa's use of Barks' references. Gilles Maurice describes the site as a "sequel of Asger Jensen's website". It's great to see another Barks' references website, and I'm expecting to enjoy looking through it in great detail.
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-----------Larry Giver
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-----------Larry Giver
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Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
New section: Don Rosa - Special art gallery
Message 147 -
2002-07-15 at 00:39:17
Hi all!
First Happy July 14th to all French friends here! By
the way, I saw on TV that president Chirac was nearly
assassinated during a parade today. Was this because
of the way he acted in the election campaign? Anyway I
hope all is well in France now!
To day I have added a new section to my "The
D.U.C.K.man" pages. It's called "Don Rosa ? Special
art gallery".
http://duckman.pettho.com/art/index.html
Sigvald :-)
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First Happy July 14th to all French friends here! By
the way, I saw on TV that president Chirac was nearly
assassinated during a parade today. Was this because
of the way he acted in the election campaign? Anyway I
hope all is well in France now!
To day I have added a new section to my "The
D.U.C.K.man" pages. It's called "Don Rosa ? Special
art gallery".
http://duckman.pettho.com/art/index.html
Sigvald :-)
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Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
The fine art of Walt Disney's Donald Duck by Carl Barks
Message 148 -
2002-07-15 at 00:49:57
Hi all!
Today I got a mail from a friend in Bergen. He asks
about a book called "The fine art of Walt Disney's
Donald Duck by Carl Barks" which is said to include
most or all oil-paintings by Barks. From what he has
heared it was published in 1800 copies worldwide (only
2-3 in Norway) in 1980 and that this book is now worth
more than 10000 NOK ($1200). Is this correct?
He also asks if there are any possibilities that
Egmont will someday publish such a book in
Scandinavia?
Sigvald :-)
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Today I got a mail from a friend in Bergen. He asks
about a book called "The fine art of Walt Disney's
Donald Duck by Carl Barks" which is said to include
most or all oil-paintings by Barks. From what he has
heared it was published in 1800 copies worldwide (only
2-3 in Norway) in 1980 and that this book is now worth
more than 10000 NOK ($1200). Is this correct?
He also asks if there are any possibilities that
Egmont will someday publish such a book in
Scandinavia?
Sigvald :-)
______________________________________________________
F? den nye Yahoo! Messenger p? http://no.messenger.yahoo.com/
N? med webkamera, stemmechat, interaktiv bakgrunn og mye mer!
Olivier
New section: Don Rosa - Special art gallery
Message 149 -
2002-07-15 at 12:15:10
Hi everyone!
>> First Happy July 14th to all French friends here!
Thanks :)
>>> To day I have added a new section to my "The D.U.C.K.man" pages. It's
>>called "Don Rosa - Special art gallery".
I'll go see that! :)
>>By the way, I saw on TV that president Chirac was nearly assassinated during
>>a parade today. Was this because of the way he acted in the election campaign?
>>Anyway I hope all is well in France now!
Whoa whoa whoa! What was that? There was an attempt, indeed, which was thwarted by people watching
the parade. But President Chirac never misbehaved in any way during the campaign: *he* was the one
who was attacked. If anyone is interested in this, send me a private e-mail as this is not DCML
matter, and I will tell you-- and I'm e-mailing you, Sigvald.
All the best,
Olivier
>> First Happy July 14th to all French friends here!
Thanks :)
>>> To day I have added a new section to my "The D.U.C.K.man" pages. It's
>>called "Don Rosa - Special art gallery".
I'll go see that! :)
>>By the way, I saw on TV that president Chirac was nearly assassinated during
>>a parade today. Was this because of the way he acted in the election campaign?
>>Anyway I hope all is well in France now!
Whoa whoa whoa! What was that? There was an attempt, indeed, which was thwarted by people watching
the parade. But President Chirac never misbehaved in any way during the campaign: *he* was the one
who was attacked. If anyone is interested in this, send me a private e-mail as this is not DCML
matter, and I will tell you-- and I'm e-mailing you, Sigvald.
All the best,
Olivier
Olivier
The fine art of Walt Disney's Donald Duck by Carl Barks
Message 150 -
2002-07-15 at 12:17:07
>> Today I got a mail from a friend in Bergen. He asks
>> about a book called "The fine art of Walt Disney's
>> Donald Duck by Carl Barks" which is said to include
>> most or all oil-paintings by Barks. From what he has
>> heared it was published in 1800 copies worldwide (only
>> 2-3 in Norway) in 1980 and that this book is now worth
>> more than 10000 NOK ($1200). Is this correct?
>> about a book called "The fine art of Walt Disney's
>> Donald Duck by Carl Barks" which is said to include
>> most or all oil-paintings by Barks. From what he has
>> heared it was published in 1800 copies worldwide (only
>> 2-3 in Norway) in 1980 and that this book is now worth
>> more than 10000 NOK ($1200). Is this correct?