Halston,
Thank you for the information. It looks likely that the car was a Detroit Electric. It would have been fun if it were a Milburn Electric, given my interest in them, though it has still been fun to consider the question. :)
Thanks,
George
----- Original Message -----
From: Halsten Aastebol
To: George Milburn ; dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 3:44 AM
Subject: Re: Grandma Duck's car
At 21:21 30.06.02 -0400, George Milburn wrote:
The Norwegian Museum of Science & Technology has a 1919 Milburn Electric automobile. Their website suggests that Grandma Duck's car was patterned after this line of vehicles, and I am interested in whether this may be true.
A one shot magazine called "Duckmobiles" published by ducks fans in Trondheim, Norway in 1991 claims that Grandma's car was a Detroit Electric.
I don't which is true.
Regards
Halsten
Author
Topic: 200207
(255 messages)
George Milburn
Grandma Duck's car
Message 31 -
2002-07-02 at 14:38:53
Frank Bubacz
12 Duckburg landmarks
Message 32 -
2002-07-02 at 15:14:37
>From: "Don Rosa"
>There are arguments that could be made against things like Fort Duckburg or
>Pizarro's Galleon or Mount Demontooth, but I must also consider what nice
>visual variety these landmarks offer the list so it won't just be 100%
>boring looking buildings.
Absolutely! Keep these three in your list!
>Now I am down to one of my own original choices of Gyro's workshop... and
>I'm on the verge of talking myself out of it! It is *not* a landmark!
Right! Throw it out!
As you don't like too many "boring" buildings and given the fact that Old
Demontooth is the only "nature" element in the list yet, how about Cedar
Creek ("Only a poor old man")? Maybe it's not a spectacular landmark, but at
least it has a story (and most people know it). I'm sure word has spread to
the Duckburgians about what happened there and people are still visiting the
broken dam saying things like: "Son, this is the place where the old miser
had his biggest triumph against the Beagle Boys!" It could be a nice
drawing with the broken dam in the background. Also, Cedar Creek must be
located somewhere in or near the outskirts of Duckburg, because it's easy
for HDL to follow the BB's lorry. In addition, those Duckburgian villains
also live near it.
Frank
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>There are arguments that could be made against things like Fort Duckburg or
>Pizarro's Galleon or Mount Demontooth, but I must also consider what nice
>visual variety these landmarks offer the list so it won't just be 100%
>boring looking buildings.
Absolutely! Keep these three in your list!
>Now I am down to one of my own original choices of Gyro's workshop... and
>I'm on the verge of talking myself out of it! It is *not* a landmark!
Right! Throw it out!
As you don't like too many "boring" buildings and given the fact that Old
Demontooth is the only "nature" element in the list yet, how about Cedar
Creek ("Only a poor old man")? Maybe it's not a spectacular landmark, but at
least it has a story (and most people know it). I'm sure word has spread to
the Duckburgians about what happened there and people are still visiting the
broken dam saying things like: "Son, this is the place where the old miser
had his biggest triumph against the Beagle Boys!" It could be a nice
drawing with the broken dam in the background. Also, Cedar Creek must be
located somewhere in or near the outskirts of Duckburg, because it's easy
for HDL to follow the BB's lorry. In addition, those Duckburgian villains
also live near it.
Frank
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Duckburg's 12 landmarks: Correction & Question
Message 33 -
2002-07-02 at 15:18:09
JUSSI WRITES:
> *interesting idea springs to mind*
> Wouldn't _that_ be a cool picture of a Duckburg landmark: the twin towers
> crashing, damaged by a flying Money Bin?
>
> (is there any chance that anyone would get offended by that?-)
AND I REPLY:
I'm offended by the mere mention of it. It seems to me to absolutely fall
within the description of bad taste.
Dan
> *interesting idea springs to mind*
> Wouldn't _that_ be a cool picture of a Duckburg landmark: the twin towers
> crashing, damaged by a flying Money Bin?
>
> (is there any chance that anyone would get offended by that?-)
AND I REPLY:
I'm offended by the mere mention of it. It seems to me to absolutely fall
within the description of bad taste.
Dan
Dan Shane
By Godfrey...
Message 34 -
2002-07-02 at 15:38:32
SIGVALD ASKS:
> > "By Godfrey" is an USA acceptable way of saying
> > "by God"
>
> OK, but how is this according to Disney policy? I've
> got the impression that it's somehow tabu to mention
> the christian God, Jesus Christ, etc. in Disney
> comics.
AND I REPLY:
The English language uses many euphemisms to replace "objectionable" words.
Many of them have become perfectly innocent phrases to most people, and some
have more familiar roots than others. Disney probably views most or all of
the following as acceptable forms of "cursing" since most English speaking
people don't call to mind the root words when hearing the bowdlerized
counterparts.
God -- Gad, Godfrey, gosh, golly
Jesus -- Geez, Gee Whiz
Jesus Christ -- Jiminy Crickets (let's see Disney remove that one from their
canon!)
Jehovah -- Jehosophat, Jove (also the Roman name for Zeus)
Hell -- heck
Damn -- dang, darn
God damn -- daggone, doggone, dadblast, dadgum
Dan (not part of the above list, just my name)
> > "By Godfrey" is an USA acceptable way of saying
> > "by God"
>
> OK, but how is this according to Disney policy? I've
> got the impression that it's somehow tabu to mention
> the christian God, Jesus Christ, etc. in Disney
> comics.
AND I REPLY:
The English language uses many euphemisms to replace "objectionable" words.
Many of them have become perfectly innocent phrases to most people, and some
have more familiar roots than others. Disney probably views most or all of
the following as acceptable forms of "cursing" since most English speaking
people don't call to mind the root words when hearing the bowdlerized
counterparts.
God -- Gad, Godfrey, gosh, golly
Jesus -- Geez, Gee Whiz
Jesus Christ -- Jiminy Crickets (let's see Disney remove that one from their
canon!)
Jehovah -- Jehosophat, Jove (also the Roman name for Zeus)
Hell -- heck
Damn -- dang, darn
God damn -- daggone, doggone, dadblast, dadgum
Dan (not part of the above list, just my name)
Kriton Kyrimis
By Godfrey...
Message 35 -
2002-07-02 at 16:08:56
DAN:
> The English language uses many euphemisms to replace "objectionable" words.
> ...
And then there's #$@%#$%@$#%! which, if I remember correctly, one reader
once wrote to Gladstone to point out that he found it objectionable!
Does anyone know if "Great Scott", which Scrooge and others use in Barks'
stories, is one of these euphemisms?
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"The important systems are functioning. Oxygen, power and the laws of
physics are still in evidence. Mostly."
-----
> The English language uses many euphemisms to replace "objectionable" words.
> ...
And then there's #$@%#$%@$#%! which, if I remember correctly, one reader
once wrote to Gladstone to point out that he found it objectionable!
Does anyone know if "Great Scott", which Scrooge and others use in Barks'
stories, is one of these euphemisms?
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"The important systems are functioning. Oxygen, power and the laws of
physics are still in evidence. Mostly."
-----
Dan Shane
12 Duckburg landmarks
Message 36 -
2002-07-02 at 16:39:26
DON WROTE:
> Now I am down to one of my own original choices of Gyro's workshop... and
> I'm on the verge of talking myself out of it! It is *not* a landmark! It
> might be a public eyesore, like Shacktown. I don't see Gyro as being
> regarded as a world famous genius by most residents, but more as the local
> crackpot inventor. And if I *do* use his workshop, I think some
> readers will
> be expecting "Donald's house" or "Daisy's house" in the series without
> asking themselves why the homes of everyday average citizens should be
> included in a list of famous landmarks. But... maybe Gyro's shop
> would be a
> nice entry as a "miniature" or "personal" landmark along with all
> the other
> huge ones?
AND I REPLY:
After these countless messages about what constitutes a landmark, I'm still
unclear about YOUR definition. Is a landmark simply a positive point of
interest, like a tourist attraction or civic structure? Or can it be any
building, geological feature or locale that serves as a geographic point of
reference? To me, any roadside shack or stand of trees CAN serve as
landmarks when I'm driving if they stand alone and mark a point on my route
to make a turn. If Gyro's workshop is on the corner of a busy intersection,
it would definitely "mark the land," eyesore or not. If, on the other hand,
it sits behind his house, out of general view, it could not properly be
called a landmark no matter how many customers or rock-throwers it draws.
Dan
> Now I am down to one of my own original choices of Gyro's workshop... and
> I'm on the verge of talking myself out of it! It is *not* a landmark! It
> might be a public eyesore, like Shacktown. I don't see Gyro as being
> regarded as a world famous genius by most residents, but more as the local
> crackpot inventor. And if I *do* use his workshop, I think some
> readers will
> be expecting "Donald's house" or "Daisy's house" in the series without
> asking themselves why the homes of everyday average citizens should be
> included in a list of famous landmarks. But... maybe Gyro's shop
> would be a
> nice entry as a "miniature" or "personal" landmark along with all
> the other
> huge ones?
AND I REPLY:
After these countless messages about what constitutes a landmark, I'm still
unclear about YOUR definition. Is a landmark simply a positive point of
interest, like a tourist attraction or civic structure? Or can it be any
building, geological feature or locale that serves as a geographic point of
reference? To me, any roadside shack or stand of trees CAN serve as
landmarks when I'm driving if they stand alone and mark a point on my route
to make a turn. If Gyro's workshop is on the corner of a busy intersection,
it would definitely "mark the land," eyesore or not. If, on the other hand,
it sits behind his house, out of general view, it could not properly be
called a landmark no matter how many customers or rock-throwers it draws.
Dan
Dan Shane
12 Duckburg landmarks
Message 37 -
2002-07-02 at 16:49:43
SIGVALD SAYS:
> This looks great. However I still think that Mount
> Demontooth should be removed from this list. I can
> give several reasons for this:
> a) A mountain is boring. It has no history since it
> has always been there.
> b) The 11 other landmarks are constructions built by
> people.
I can't follow that logic. A mountain definitely marks the land, and I
never found any tall peak to be boring. One of the most famous landmarks in
America is Chimney Rock in Nebraska. It was not built by people, but I
doubt any manmade structure had so large an impact on this country's
history, at least as far as a point of reference for travelers. Here is the
text of the historical marker at the site:
"No single sight along the Oregon and Mormon trails attracted more attention
than Chimney Rock, 1 [&] 1/2miles south of here [(a point on Nebraska State
Highway 92, southerly, from Bayard, Nebraska)]. Rising 475 feet above the
Platte River, the natural tour served as beacon to pioneers.
"Tired travelers described it in many ways during the three to four days it
was part of their horizon. For some it created mirage-like effects. Some
judged it to be 50 feet high, others 700. Many tried to scale it, but none
succeeded. Later it became the setting for pony express, telegraph, and
stage stations.
"Many pioneers speculated on the fragility of the tower. They feared the
Brule clay with interlayers of volcanic ash and Arikaree sandstone would
soon crumble to nothingness on the prairie.
"Hundreds of names were scratched on the soft base. The names have washed
away, but the tower remains, as do references in faded diaries that attest
Chimney Rock was one of the celebrated landmarks on the pioneer trunklines
to the west."
Marker Text Copyright ? "[Nebraska] Historical Markers Council"
> This looks great. However I still think that Mount
> Demontooth should be removed from this list. I can
> give several reasons for this:
> a) A mountain is boring. It has no history since it
> has always been there.
> b) The 11 other landmarks are constructions built by
> people.
I can't follow that logic. A mountain definitely marks the land, and I
never found any tall peak to be boring. One of the most famous landmarks in
America is Chimney Rock in Nebraska. It was not built by people, but I
doubt any manmade structure had so large an impact on this country's
history, at least as far as a point of reference for travelers. Here is the
text of the historical marker at the site:
"No single sight along the Oregon and Mormon trails attracted more attention
than Chimney Rock, 1 [&] 1/2miles south of here [(a point on Nebraska State
Highway 92, southerly, from Bayard, Nebraska)]. Rising 475 feet above the
Platte River, the natural tour served as beacon to pioneers.
"Tired travelers described it in many ways during the three to four days it
was part of their horizon. For some it created mirage-like effects. Some
judged it to be 50 feet high, others 700. Many tried to scale it, but none
succeeded. Later it became the setting for pony express, telegraph, and
stage stations.
"Many pioneers speculated on the fragility of the tower. They feared the
Brule clay with interlayers of volcanic ash and Arikaree sandstone would
soon crumble to nothingness on the prairie.
"Hundreds of names were scratched on the soft base. The names have washed
away, but the tower remains, as do references in faded diaries that attest
Chimney Rock was one of the celebrated landmarks on the pioneer trunklines
to the west."
Marker Text Copyright ? "[Nebraska] Historical Markers Council"
Lars Jensen
Duckburg's 12 landmarks: Correction & Question
Message 38 -
2002-07-02 at 18:30:38
Jussi Mantere wrote:
> *interesting idea springs to mind*
> Wouldn't _that_ be a cool picture of a Duckburg landmark: the twin
towers
> crashing, damaged by a flying Money Bin?
>
> (is there any chance that anyone would get offended by that?-)
I was so astounded by this that I didn't comment on it; I was sure it
was either a bad joke or a trollish posting. However, since another
member of DCML has chosen to reply, so will I:
Your remark is one of the most heartless I've ever seen. You should be
ashamed of yourself.
Lars Jensen
> *interesting idea springs to mind*
> Wouldn't _that_ be a cool picture of a Duckburg landmark: the twin
towers
> crashing, damaged by a flying Money Bin?
>
> (is there any chance that anyone would get offended by that?-)
I was so astounded by this that I didn't comment on it; I was sure it
was either a bad joke or a trollish posting. However, since another
member of DCML has chosen to reply, so will I:
Your remark is one of the most heartless I've ever seen. You should be
ashamed of yourself.
Lars Jensen
H.W.Fluks
Redrawn Barks (Luca)
Message 39 -
2002-07-02 at 18:48:00
Luca asked:
> About Daan [Jippes] and his "remaking"
> old Barks' stories, I also wish to know if "DD's Atom Bomb"
> redrawn by him for the Dutch "Donald Duck" is the *same*
> version printed in
> The Carl Barks Library, or a different one.
The artwork is by Jippes in most panels. Except when Jippes' version was too
different from the original, they used a newly restored original panel.
The two final panels of the story have been censored in the CBL version (but
not in the Dutch Jippes version).
Also note that Jippes drew the story has an 8-page 4-tier story.
Gladstone/AR re-arranged some Jippes artwork to come closer to the original
layout (30-page 1-tier).
Some time ago, I've been comparing the various versions panel by panel (I
also have xeroxes of the original story).
> "Race to South Seas", CBL
> Set VI, Volume One). It's the same reprinted in DDA # 26,
> 1992 (but with the pages' numberscut).
There is still proof for the Jippes version: the text "Dagobert McDuck" on
page 2 (I think), and the Dutch text "Kwaak" on a boat in the story. I think
these things were removed in later reprints (in Gladstone comics/albums).
> Well, in DDA # 26 Daan
> is not credited, and the same happened for the Italian
> translation of that story, in ZP 40.
> In case of reprinting, it'd be necessary to do it, isn't it?
Yes, that's one thing that I found annoying in the Carl Barks Library. They
should have mentioned at least the fact that some of the stories were
redrawn.
--Harry.
> About Daan [Jippes] and his "remaking"
> old Barks' stories, I also wish to know if "DD's Atom Bomb"
> redrawn by him for the Dutch "Donald Duck" is the *same*
> version printed in
> The Carl Barks Library, or a different one.
The artwork is by Jippes in most panels. Except when Jippes' version was too
different from the original, they used a newly restored original panel.
The two final panels of the story have been censored in the CBL version (but
not in the Dutch Jippes version).
Also note that Jippes drew the story has an 8-page 4-tier story.
Gladstone/AR re-arranged some Jippes artwork to come closer to the original
layout (30-page 1-tier).
Some time ago, I've been comparing the various versions panel by panel (I
also have xeroxes of the original story).
> "Race to South Seas", CBL
> Set VI, Volume One). It's the same reprinted in DDA # 26,
> 1992 (but with the pages' numberscut).
There is still proof for the Jippes version: the text "Dagobert McDuck" on
page 2 (I think), and the Dutch text "Kwaak" on a boat in the story. I think
these things were removed in later reprints (in Gladstone comics/albums).
> Well, in DDA # 26 Daan
> is not credited, and the same happened for the Italian
> translation of that story, in ZP 40.
> In case of reprinting, it'd be necessary to do it, isn't it?
Yes, that's one thing that I found annoying in the Carl Barks Library. They
should have mentioned at least the fact that some of the stories were
redrawn.
--Harry.
H.W.Fluks
Donaldist community
Message 40 -
2002-07-02 at 19:19:05
Erik Bergwall wrote:
> Today, June 29th, birthday of Don Rosa, we have published our
> scandinavian
> donaldist community on the web. It's a community where you,
> as a member
> (don't cost you a thing), can discuss and talk with other
> donaldists as
> well, by forum, internal mail, etc. Each member has their own
> presentation
> page about him/herself. You can view the site in four
> languages; english, danish, swedish and norwegian.
> www.donaldisten.dk
9 years and 11 months ago, we started our Disney comics mailing list.
It's a community where you, as a member (don't cost you a thing), can
discuss and talk with other donaldists as well, by forum. Each member can
have an own presentation page about him/herself. You can view the mail and
the site in one language; English.
http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
Spot the differences. 8-)
--Harry.
> Today, June 29th, birthday of Don Rosa, we have published our
> scandinavian
> donaldist community on the web. It's a community where you,
> as a member
> (don't cost you a thing), can discuss and talk with other
> donaldists as
> well, by forum, internal mail, etc. Each member has their own
> presentation
> page about him/herself. You can view the site in four
> languages; english, danish, swedish and norwegian.
> www.donaldisten.dk
9 years and 11 months ago, we started our Disney comics mailing list.
It's a community where you, as a member (don't cost you a thing), can
discuss and talk with other donaldists as well, by forum. Each member can
have an own presentation page about him/herself. You can view the mail and
the site in one language; English.
http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
Spot the differences. 8-)
--Harry.
H.W.Fluks
Notre-Duck
Message 41 -
2002-07-02 at 19:25:08
Eero-Pekka Halinen:
> Of course, we[']ll have to assume
> that Notre Dame is the building that Notre Duck refers to.
> And I really think that :-).
Many catholic churches are devoted to Mary, or in French "Notre Dame". The
Notre Dame church in Paris is the most famous one. But "Notre Duck" could be
referring to any other church.
Besides, the Notre Duck story is also clearly based on "The Phantom of the
Opera", the Opera being another famous building in Paris. Maybe Barks
decided that he liked drawing a church to drawing an opera building.
Note that there are very few religious marks in Barks' Notre Duck. It might
as well have been an opera building, with a church-like architecture, and a
big theatre organ...
--Harry.
> Of course, we[']ll have to assume
> that Notre Dame is the building that Notre Duck refers to.
> And I really think that :-).
Many catholic churches are devoted to Mary, or in French "Notre Dame". The
Notre Dame church in Paris is the most famous one. But "Notre Duck" could be
referring to any other church.
Besides, the Notre Duck story is also clearly based on "The Phantom of the
Opera", the Opera being another famous building in Paris. Maybe Barks
decided that he liked drawing a church to drawing an opera building.
Note that there are very few religious marks in Barks' Notre Duck. It might
as well have been an opera building, with a church-like architecture, and a
big theatre organ...
--Harry.
G-hasne
Grandma's car and Duckburg landmarks
Message 42 -
2002-07-02 at 21:04:35
1) As author of Duckmobiles I need to state that the Detroit Electric car was
the only one we could find pictured of the cars existing at the time that
could have been models for Grandma Duck's car. The model could be any of the
electric cars at the time.
However, Barks wrote to me in response to the Duckmobiles booklet and said
that there was an old lady in his hometown who drove an electric car, and this
gave him the impression that electric cars were for old women, especially as
they are so easy to handle. And this electric car was made before 1910.
So I will not say that the Milburn car is ruled out. I remember that about
1970 I saw a huge book listing all car models made with photographs (Danish, I
think), and from that I infer that it is possible to find somewhere or other a
listing and depiction of all electric cars.
As far as I understood from Barks, his depiction of Grandma Duck's car was
based on his own experience and not other comic book artists'.
What about a car factory in Duckburg called "Duick"? In the Norwegian Andeby
it could be called "Fiord".
2) I wonder whether the Demontooth mountain exists in the vicinity of
Duckburg, as it appeared in Donald's dream? I don't think it shoudl be viewed
as one of the landmarks of Duckburg.
As for Gyro's inventor's shack, it is not a landmark in the "tourist"
understanding of the word. It would have been if Gyro had become world famous
and rich, but as he is not - which I think was one of Barks' important
attitudes to Gyro and his work; that he did NOT become famous because
inventions cannot be valuated properly - the shack is not something that
tourists would flock to. Just as they would flock to the cabin where Abraham
Lincoln was born.
As Duckburg is a center of travel and transport, it would certainly have an
international harbour and international airport.
Further, doesn't it have a zoo within the city limits?
Further, have you mentioned the city playground with the rotating restaurant?
I am away from my computer and just log in via the website and thus I don't
have easy access to what you have already found out.
The Cornelius Coot center has been depicted by Don. I would think that
Duckburg would have a center for its heritage, but it would necessarily be a
part of the museum and / or university. Does Duckburg have a university? As it
is the capital of Calisota and it has more than 100 000 inhabitants it sure
has.
Duckburg must necessarily have a sports stadium too, where the olympic
qualification was held on many occasions.
The TV and radio house would necessarily be something Duckburg would be proud
of in the 50s. Both Scrooge and Donald were there on many occasions.
Geir Hasnes
the only one we could find pictured of the cars existing at the time that
could have been models for Grandma Duck's car. The model could be any of the
electric cars at the time.
However, Barks wrote to me in response to the Duckmobiles booklet and said
that there was an old lady in his hometown who drove an electric car, and this
gave him the impression that electric cars were for old women, especially as
they are so easy to handle. And this electric car was made before 1910.
So I will not say that the Milburn car is ruled out. I remember that about
1970 I saw a huge book listing all car models made with photographs (Danish, I
think), and from that I infer that it is possible to find somewhere or other a
listing and depiction of all electric cars.
As far as I understood from Barks, his depiction of Grandma Duck's car was
based on his own experience and not other comic book artists'.
What about a car factory in Duckburg called "Duick"? In the Norwegian Andeby
it could be called "Fiord".
2) I wonder whether the Demontooth mountain exists in the vicinity of
Duckburg, as it appeared in Donald's dream? I don't think it shoudl be viewed
as one of the landmarks of Duckburg.
As for Gyro's inventor's shack, it is not a landmark in the "tourist"
understanding of the word. It would have been if Gyro had become world famous
and rich, but as he is not - which I think was one of Barks' important
attitudes to Gyro and his work; that he did NOT become famous because
inventions cannot be valuated properly - the shack is not something that
tourists would flock to. Just as they would flock to the cabin where Abraham
Lincoln was born.
As Duckburg is a center of travel and transport, it would certainly have an
international harbour and international airport.
Further, doesn't it have a zoo within the city limits?
Further, have you mentioned the city playground with the rotating restaurant?
I am away from my computer and just log in via the website and thus I don't
have easy access to what you have already found out.
The Cornelius Coot center has been depicted by Don. I would think that
Duckburg would have a center for its heritage, but it would necessarily be a
part of the museum and / or university. Does Duckburg have a university? As it
is the capital of Calisota and it has more than 100 000 inhabitants it sure
has.
Duckburg must necessarily have a sports stadium too, where the olympic
qualification was held on many occasions.
The TV and radio house would necessarily be something Duckburg would be proud
of in the 50s. Both Scrooge and Donald were there on many occasions.
Geir Hasnes
Jussi Mantere
Duckburg's 12 landmarks: Correction & Question
Message 43 -
2002-07-02 at 21:19:06
On Tue, 2 Jul 2002, Lars Jensen wrote:
> Your remark is one of the most heartless I've ever seen. You should be
> ashamed of yourself.
I must apologize to the whole list.
As you pointed out the comment was heartless AND tasteless, and I too knew
it even before the message was sent.
Actually, it was never meant to reach the list; after typing, I understand
how tasteless it was and meant to cancel it. Accidentally my mailer sent
it, and I am really sorry that you had to read it.
Hopefully most of you understand that I wouldn't joke about such things;
things that I too find tasteless, and especially to people who I _know_
would be even much more offended by such a comment than myself.
I am ashamed and sorry; and I also promise to try to think before typing
instead of typing before thinking.
--
. jussi mantere
. http://www.iki.fi/obs/
. mister, i ain't no boy, no i'm a man
.. and i believe in the promised land
> Your remark is one of the most heartless I've ever seen. You should be
> ashamed of yourself.
I must apologize to the whole list.
As you pointed out the comment was heartless AND tasteless, and I too knew
it even before the message was sent.
Actually, it was never meant to reach the list; after typing, I understand
how tasteless it was and meant to cancel it. Accidentally my mailer sent
it, and I am really sorry that you had to read it.
Hopefully most of you understand that I wouldn't joke about such things;
things that I too find tasteless, and especially to people who I _know_
would be even much more offended by such a comment than myself.
I am ashamed and sorry; and I also promise to try to think before typing
instead of typing before thinking.
--
. jussi mantere
. http://www.iki.fi/obs/
. mister, i ain't no boy, no i'm a man
.. and i believe in the promised land
Olaf Solstrand
DCML digest, Vol 1 #996 - 14 msgs
Message 44 -
2002-07-02 at 21:50:10
>Message: 14
>From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com
>
>9 years and 11 months ago, we started our Disney comics mailing list.
Does that mean that a big anniversary is coming up? :)
Olaf
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>From: H.W.Fluks at kpn.com
>
>9 years and 11 months ago, we started our Disney comics mailing list.
Does that mean that a big anniversary is coming up? :)
Olaf
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DCML digest, Vol 1 #995 - 10 msgs
Message 45 -
2002-07-02 at 21:59:59
Halsten wrote:
A mountain within a city will always be one that city's important
landmarks, like Sugarloaf and Corcovado (with the statue of Christ the
Redeemer) in Rio de Janeiro.
Right! Arizona is rife with naturally occurring landmarks, from Camelback
Mountain in Phoenix to Thumb Butte right here in Prescott to?well, how about
The Grand Canyon? Not much doubt about the concept of "landmark" when you
cast your peepers on that baby!
Anyway, by my day-use dictionary a landmark firstly means an object that
marks a boundary or division or is a guide. So, if one wanted a straight up,
unambiguous landmark for Duckburg, how about a "Duckburg City Limits" sign?
Barks certainly drew several of those over the years.
Gary
A mountain within a city will always be one that city's important
landmarks, like Sugarloaf and Corcovado (with the statue of Christ the
Redeemer) in Rio de Janeiro.
Right! Arizona is rife with naturally occurring landmarks, from Camelback
Mountain in Phoenix to Thumb Butte right here in Prescott to?well, how about
The Grand Canyon? Not much doubt about the concept of "landmark" when you
cast your peepers on that baby!
Anyway, by my day-use dictionary a landmark firstly means an object that
marks a boundary or division or is a guide. So, if one wanted a straight up,
unambiguous landmark for Duckburg, how about a "Duckburg City Limits" sign?
Barks certainly drew several of those over the years.
Gary