Gerd:
>I mean, you don't harvest pickles, do you? You first harvest
>cucumbers and then pickle them, I would imagine. Even in the rural parts.
In most grocery store produce sections (in the States, anyway) there are
bins that feature the large salad cucumber, while often there are other bins
containing what are usually called pickling cucumbers, which are smaller and
thinner skinned than the salad variety. Both are cucumbers, but the salad
variety would make a poor pickle, while the latter is particularly suited to
pickling.
I don't know this for sure, but it may be that Barks, who had agricultural
experience, found that American growers did refer to pickling cucumbers as
pickles, and that the harvest of these was called the "pickle crop".
Gary
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Sue And Gary Leach
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Message 16 -
2002-07-01 at 19:32:18
Sue And Gary Leach
DCML digest, Vol 1 #991 - 19 msgs
Message 17 -
2002-07-01 at 21:02:23
Luca (and everybody):
>> The German Barks Library says it has been redrawn by Daan Jippes and a team
>> of Dutch artists. Pages 1-5 and 10 look like Jippes.
>So, it's not made expecially for the USA publications. It seems to be made
>for the Dutch DD and later reprinted in USA...
That's pretty much what I know about it. For the sake of completeness,
however, let me add that in the version that appeared in The Carl Barks
Library, Set VI, Volume One, there are a few panels depicting an African
native beating a drum. The faces on this native were redrawn by Another
Rainbow/Gladstone editor John Clark, to remove the "objectionable" facial
features that were still in the redrawn art.
This story's sure had a torturous existence.
Gary
>> The German Barks Library says it has been redrawn by Daan Jippes and a team
>> of Dutch artists. Pages 1-5 and 10 look like Jippes.
>So, it's not made expecially for the USA publications. It seems to be made
>for the Dutch DD and later reprinted in USA...
That's pretty much what I know about it. For the sake of completeness,
however, let me add that in the version that appeared in The Carl Barks
Library, Set VI, Volume One, there are a few panels depicting an African
native beating a drum. The faces on this native were redrawn by Another
Rainbow/Gladstone editor John Clark, to remove the "objectionable" facial
features that were still in the redrawn art.
This story's sure had a torturous existence.
Gary
Sue And Gary Leach
DCML digest, Vol 1 #993 - 15 msgs
Message 18 -
2002-07-01 at 22:33:45
Timo:
I don't know if Barks gave any
guides to colorist but most of the times he gave any guides they were
ignored (!) mainly because printer who did the printing plates removed them
before comics were colored. Therefore they might even vary in different
reprints. Sad.
Comic books were invented as a second mass market outlet for newspaper comic
strips, so production values were bottom of the barrel. Editors and creators
eventually arose to introduce originality and quality into the stories, but
they were without influence over the production values, which continued on
pretty much as they'd begun. And the coloring, though a prime feature of
comic books, was part of the production process.
Black and white material, such as line art, is something any press can
handle, and for the least expense. Color, on the other hand, is by far the
most costly aspect of a print job (it was originally done by engravers, who
worked directly on the printing plates using very nasty chemicals), and
entirely reliant on the capabilities of a particular press and of the
production process built around it.
As you might imagine, when publishers began putting out magazines promising
"All in Color for a Dime", they wanted to make sure the color was done as
cheaply as possible. Therefore it was the printing plant, not the editors or
artists, that established the color palates and the procedures by which
color would be handled. (Publishers, in fact, often had the printer's color
palates boiled down even more, to further speed up the production process
and reduce cost. And printers often adopted these reduced palates in turn.)
In such an environment, colorists were valued not for their artistry but for
their capacity to accommodate the production process. And as costs rose and
profits margins narrowed, this capacity became increasingly important, to
the point that many publishers had a bare handful of colorists - and
sometimes just one - to crank out color guides that were sent to companies
hiring unskilled labor for minimum wage to produce the materials needed for
printers to burn color plates.
That was the situation for American newsstand comics when Gladstone came
along back in 1985, at the tail end of that whole dubious "era". At that
point the personal computer, like a beneficent virus, began to seriously
invade the comic book production process and eventually bring to the
colorist the power to confidently establish, if not outright cement, what
would go on, and come off, the press.
This has not removed coloring from being part of the production process, but
it has, interestingly enough, turned the colorist into the equivalent of the
old-time engraver - without having to use any of those nasty chemicals,
thank god.
Gary
I don't know if Barks gave any
guides to colorist but most of the times he gave any guides they were
ignored (!) mainly because printer who did the printing plates removed them
before comics were colored. Therefore they might even vary in different
reprints. Sad.
Comic books were invented as a second mass market outlet for newspaper comic
strips, so production values were bottom of the barrel. Editors and creators
eventually arose to introduce originality and quality into the stories, but
they were without influence over the production values, which continued on
pretty much as they'd begun. And the coloring, though a prime feature of
comic books, was part of the production process.
Black and white material, such as line art, is something any press can
handle, and for the least expense. Color, on the other hand, is by far the
most costly aspect of a print job (it was originally done by engravers, who
worked directly on the printing plates using very nasty chemicals), and
entirely reliant on the capabilities of a particular press and of the
production process built around it.
As you might imagine, when publishers began putting out magazines promising
"All in Color for a Dime", they wanted to make sure the color was done as
cheaply as possible. Therefore it was the printing plant, not the editors or
artists, that established the color palates and the procedures by which
color would be handled. (Publishers, in fact, often had the printer's color
palates boiled down even more, to further speed up the production process
and reduce cost. And printers often adopted these reduced palates in turn.)
In such an environment, colorists were valued not for their artistry but for
their capacity to accommodate the production process. And as costs rose and
profits margins narrowed, this capacity became increasingly important, to
the point that many publishers had a bare handful of colorists - and
sometimes just one - to crank out color guides that were sent to companies
hiring unskilled labor for minimum wage to produce the materials needed for
printers to burn color plates.
That was the situation for American newsstand comics when Gladstone came
along back in 1985, at the tail end of that whole dubious "era". At that
point the personal computer, like a beneficent virus, began to seriously
invade the comic book production process and eventually bring to the
colorist the power to confidently establish, if not outright cement, what
would go on, and come off, the press.
This has not removed coloring from being part of the production process, but
it has, interestingly enough, turned the colorist into the equivalent of the
old-time engraver - without having to use any of those nasty chemicals,
thank god.
Gary
Darrin Michaels
Australian and Argentine Comic Issues
Message 19 -
2002-07-01 at 23:01:33
I have come across comics that have been issued in both Australia and
Argentina but did not see them in the listings. Should I add them? Who
should I contact?
Sincerely,
Darrin
--
Please visit my website at:
http://www.spinandmarty.info
The World's #1 place for information about the 1950's
Mickey Mouse Club series: Spin and Marty
Argentina but did not see them in the listings. Should I add them? Who
should I contact?
Sincerely,
Darrin
--
Please visit my website at:
http://www.spinandmarty.info
The World's #1 place for information about the 1950's
Mickey Mouse Club series: Spin and Marty
Don Rosa
12 Duckburg landmarks
Message 20 -
2002-07-01 at 23:51:40
Okay, lemmee run this by you.
I hafta make decisions here. There are too many possibilities and only 12
slots. So...
The first decision I am forced into is that these are LANDMARKS... not
favorite story elements of Duckburg. So....
Shacktown is NOT a landmark. Nobody would take tourists to see such a place.
This margarine factory is out for three reasons. 1) it's not a landmark --
it's not simply an "ordinary factory", people are saying the whole idea is
that it's a boring, less-than-ordinary place. 2) It has been established
that, regardless of how well-known it is now with Euro readers, it
originally was created by a translator's decision to *not* use a Barksian
fact. It doesn't matter if that was a wise decision, it puts a strike
against it on my card. 3) I still don't get the humor of a margarine factory
being a funny place for Donlad to work unless you are *told* that he has a
boring job there. A "skunk oil" factory is inherently funny, and there are
surely a thousand other ideas that would sound inherently funny even in any
Euro language or culture. Counting matches in a match factory, sorting
marbles in a marble factory, working on an assembly line line
making ----------- (fill in the blank with an infinite number of absurd
sounding contraptions)... these are inherently funny, as would be a thousand
other possibilities. To know why working in a margarine plant is funny would
require reading a story or hearing an explanation. As a "writer of humor",
this choice puzzles me -- and regardless of any other merits, regardless of
how well-known it is, it's a strike against it on my card. But if you don't
like that, there's still no getting around reason 1. And I have other
choices to consider, so I move on...
An intersection of 7 routes is not unheard of, and is also not a landmark.
It would require a *large* drawing to make it look funny, and these are not
to be large drawings.
One set of suggestions that puzzles me is wanting to include this "Limpspire
State Building" or this "Vampire State Building". These are too obviously
simple background gags to fill empty spaces in a single panel in a single
story that popped out of Barks' head while drawing. As an example... even
though I am known for basing my stories on actual history and authentic
settings, etc. etc., I frequently fill empty panel backgrounds with
*impossible* sights. Like pictures on walls reacting to the characters or
action. Now, would I have one of my characters suddenly point to that
picture and scream "Eek! That picture moved! It's a miracle!" No, the
picture didn't really move. Well, anyway, you either see my point or not, I
know different people have wildly different views of what constitutes and
what *should* constitute reality in these comics. But anyway, as long as *I*
must make the final decisions, these one-time throw-away background sight
gags are not in the running.
McDuck Tower and Underground Duckburg -- these are features used strictly in
*my* stories. Actually, I'm quite fond of the "underground Duckburg" idea,
but I don't want to force one of my ideas into this list, and it also is not
a "landmark" if it's unseeable and unknown.
There are arguments that could be made against things like Fort Duckburg or
Pizarro's Galleon or Mount Demontooth, but I must also consider what nice
visual variety these landmarks offer the list so it won't just be 100%
boring looking buildings.
So... I think this is my current list (further comments follow it):
1) the Money Bin
2) Cornelius Coot statue
3) Fort Duckburg
4) Junior Woodchucks of the World world HQ
5) Duckburg Museum
6) Notre Duck
7) the Millionaire's Club
8) Cape Quack w/ lighthouse
9) Pizarro's Galleon (in some park)
10) Mount Demontooth
11) Gyro's workshop
12) Duckburg City Hall / Town Square
That last one is a new idea, but suggested by the publisher -- see, these
will appear once each month and they thought that, since the Duckburg City
Hall is a clear possibility after all, it would be nice to show it with a
huge Christmas Tree (as in several Barks tales) in that December edition. It
seems to have pushed $crooge's zoo/estate off the list, and I was still
unsure how close that was to Duckburg, anyway.
The Millionaire's Club -- if various publishers usually call it a
Billionaires' Club, they can do so. But I don't see as there could be enough
Billionaires in Duckburg to rub together... and in "my 1950's setting",
there could not have been any other billionaires besides $crooge in the
whole dang country! So Millionaires/Billionaires, all the same.
Now I am down to one of my own original choices of Gyro's workshop... and
I'm on the verge of talking myself out of it! It is *not* a landmark! It
might be a public eyesore, like Shacktown. I don't see Gyro as being
regarded as a world famous genius by most residents, but more as the local
crackpot inventor. And if I *do* use his workshop, I think some readers will
be expecting "Donald's house" or "Daisy's house" in the series without
asking themselves why the homes of everyday average citizens should be
included in a list of famous landmarks. But... maybe Gyro's shop would be a
nice entry as a "miniature" or "personal" landmark along with all the other
huge ones?
Anyway... that's my current list. I can always change it. The publisher has
the final word....... (once we see if we will actually go through with this
project).
And thanks for all the suggestions! Sometimes your reasonings convinced me
why I *should* use a suggestion, and other times it showed my why I should
*not* use an idea. But as usual, you folks are fabulous in helping me with
such projects! (And I'm not worried that I won't please everybody! I always
know that's totally impossible, so I can't worry about it, just hope for the
best.)
I hafta make decisions here. There are too many possibilities and only 12
slots. So...
The first decision I am forced into is that these are LANDMARKS... not
favorite story elements of Duckburg. So....
Shacktown is NOT a landmark. Nobody would take tourists to see such a place.
This margarine factory is out for three reasons. 1) it's not a landmark --
it's not simply an "ordinary factory", people are saying the whole idea is
that it's a boring, less-than-ordinary place. 2) It has been established
that, regardless of how well-known it is now with Euro readers, it
originally was created by a translator's decision to *not* use a Barksian
fact. It doesn't matter if that was a wise decision, it puts a strike
against it on my card. 3) I still don't get the humor of a margarine factory
being a funny place for Donlad to work unless you are *told* that he has a
boring job there. A "skunk oil" factory is inherently funny, and there are
surely a thousand other ideas that would sound inherently funny even in any
Euro language or culture. Counting matches in a match factory, sorting
marbles in a marble factory, working on an assembly line line
making ----------- (fill in the blank with an infinite number of absurd
sounding contraptions)... these are inherently funny, as would be a thousand
other possibilities. To know why working in a margarine plant is funny would
require reading a story or hearing an explanation. As a "writer of humor",
this choice puzzles me -- and regardless of any other merits, regardless of
how well-known it is, it's a strike against it on my card. But if you don't
like that, there's still no getting around reason 1. And I have other
choices to consider, so I move on...
An intersection of 7 routes is not unheard of, and is also not a landmark.
It would require a *large* drawing to make it look funny, and these are not
to be large drawings.
One set of suggestions that puzzles me is wanting to include this "Limpspire
State Building" or this "Vampire State Building". These are too obviously
simple background gags to fill empty spaces in a single panel in a single
story that popped out of Barks' head while drawing. As an example... even
though I am known for basing my stories on actual history and authentic
settings, etc. etc., I frequently fill empty panel backgrounds with
*impossible* sights. Like pictures on walls reacting to the characters or
action. Now, would I have one of my characters suddenly point to that
picture and scream "Eek! That picture moved! It's a miracle!" No, the
picture didn't really move. Well, anyway, you either see my point or not, I
know different people have wildly different views of what constitutes and
what *should* constitute reality in these comics. But anyway, as long as *I*
must make the final decisions, these one-time throw-away background sight
gags are not in the running.
McDuck Tower and Underground Duckburg -- these are features used strictly in
*my* stories. Actually, I'm quite fond of the "underground Duckburg" idea,
but I don't want to force one of my ideas into this list, and it also is not
a "landmark" if it's unseeable and unknown.
There are arguments that could be made against things like Fort Duckburg or
Pizarro's Galleon or Mount Demontooth, but I must also consider what nice
visual variety these landmarks offer the list so it won't just be 100%
boring looking buildings.
So... I think this is my current list (further comments follow it):
1) the Money Bin
2) Cornelius Coot statue
3) Fort Duckburg
4) Junior Woodchucks of the World world HQ
5) Duckburg Museum
6) Notre Duck
7) the Millionaire's Club
8) Cape Quack w/ lighthouse
9) Pizarro's Galleon (in some park)
10) Mount Demontooth
11) Gyro's workshop
12) Duckburg City Hall / Town Square
That last one is a new idea, but suggested by the publisher -- see, these
will appear once each month and they thought that, since the Duckburg City
Hall is a clear possibility after all, it would be nice to show it with a
huge Christmas Tree (as in several Barks tales) in that December edition. It
seems to have pushed $crooge's zoo/estate off the list, and I was still
unsure how close that was to Duckburg, anyway.
The Millionaire's Club -- if various publishers usually call it a
Billionaires' Club, they can do so. But I don't see as there could be enough
Billionaires in Duckburg to rub together... and in "my 1950's setting",
there could not have been any other billionaires besides $crooge in the
whole dang country! So Millionaires/Billionaires, all the same.
Now I am down to one of my own original choices of Gyro's workshop... and
I'm on the verge of talking myself out of it! It is *not* a landmark! It
might be a public eyesore, like Shacktown. I don't see Gyro as being
regarded as a world famous genius by most residents, but more as the local
crackpot inventor. And if I *do* use his workshop, I think some readers will
be expecting "Donald's house" or "Daisy's house" in the series without
asking themselves why the homes of everyday average citizens should be
included in a list of famous landmarks. But... maybe Gyro's shop would be a
nice entry as a "miniature" or "personal" landmark along with all the other
huge ones?
Anyway... that's my current list. I can always change it. The publisher has
the final word....... (once we see if we will actually go through with this
project).
And thanks for all the suggestions! Sometimes your reasonings convinced me
why I *should* use a suggestion, and other times it showed my why I should
*not* use an idea. But as usual, you folks are fabulous in helping me with
such projects! (And I'm not worried that I won't please everybody! I always
know that's totally impossible, so I can't worry about it, just hope for the
best.)
Rob Klein
Oeps!/Gerkins/Grandma's Car
Message 21 -
2002-07-02 at 00:01:27
Voor Harry F: Oeps! Oeps! Oeps! Ja, Ik ben dat wel vergeten!
I guess I've only been by Knooppunt Ridderkerk several hundred times. You see
what happens when you become older than 50??? I agree that this streamlined
and smoothe, and well-engineered interchange is too functional to be noted as a
tourist landmark. However, the disorganised and chaotic situation of Barks' 7-
route interchange was quite a spectacle to imagine in 1952 (when Barks drew
it). I don't believe we had such superhighway interchanges in 1952. (am I yet
senile here also?) I still think it is worthy as a Duckburg landmark (it's the
place where "road rage" was born in Duckburg (especially involving Donald)).
For Gary: Don't the Americans refer to the small "pickling" cucumbers as
gherkins? - and the large cucumbers as "salad cucumbers" (or is there a special
word for the bigger variety? Refering to raw cucumbers as "pickles" is
definately incorrect! I am sure the farmers and harvesters did not call them
by those names officially. Referring to them that way is a "lazy" informal way
of speaking that becomes common speech if enough people use those terms. This
situation is akin to the common usage of "I COULD care less", when the speaker
clearly MEANS "I couldn't care less". Being an American, and a simple man of
the people, even Carl Barks could (and did) pick up colloquial speech. A large
number of Americans did (and probably still do) refer to cucumbers as pickles.
Having known Carl for approximately 35 years, I would bet the family farm that
he knew the difference between a raw cucumber and a pickled gherkin. Like many
other people, he picked up a common term for a common item. I, myself, have
been guilty of such in a very telling (and ironic) way. I am Jewish, yet, at
times, (after spending much time in USA) when angry or startled, I find myself
saying "Jesus Christ!". This is DEFINATELY something I would not want to say
(for various reasons).
For Frank B., Timo et al: I believe that Al Taliaferro drew Grandma's car
first. But, I am not sure (as we all might guess based on the above note to
Harry). Perhaps David or someone else knowledgeable on the DD Daily strips can
tell us. Barks didn't draw it until 1950. I'm almost certain I saw it in a
1940s strip.
Regarding the model for it: I think it may have been a composite of the late
1890s and early 1900s (horseless carriage models) mixed with the late 1910s
Milburn and Detroit Electric styles; because her car is not built as solidly as
the 1918-19 models, the running boards are different, and the wheels and lamps
are also more old fashioned.
Rob Klein
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I guess I've only been by Knooppunt Ridderkerk several hundred times. You see
what happens when you become older than 50??? I agree that this streamlined
and smoothe, and well-engineered interchange is too functional to be noted as a
tourist landmark. However, the disorganised and chaotic situation of Barks' 7-
route interchange was quite a spectacle to imagine in 1952 (when Barks drew
it). I don't believe we had such superhighway interchanges in 1952. (am I yet
senile here also?) I still think it is worthy as a Duckburg landmark (it's the
place where "road rage" was born in Duckburg (especially involving Donald)).
For Gary: Don't the Americans refer to the small "pickling" cucumbers as
gherkins? - and the large cucumbers as "salad cucumbers" (or is there a special
word for the bigger variety? Refering to raw cucumbers as "pickles" is
definately incorrect! I am sure the farmers and harvesters did not call them
by those names officially. Referring to them that way is a "lazy" informal way
of speaking that becomes common speech if enough people use those terms. This
situation is akin to the common usage of "I COULD care less", when the speaker
clearly MEANS "I couldn't care less". Being an American, and a simple man of
the people, even Carl Barks could (and did) pick up colloquial speech. A large
number of Americans did (and probably still do) refer to cucumbers as pickles.
Having known Carl for approximately 35 years, I would bet the family farm that
he knew the difference between a raw cucumber and a pickled gherkin. Like many
other people, he picked up a common term for a common item. I, myself, have
been guilty of such in a very telling (and ironic) way. I am Jewish, yet, at
times, (after spending much time in USA) when angry or startled, I find myself
saying "Jesus Christ!". This is DEFINATELY something I would not want to say
(for various reasons).
For Frank B., Timo et al: I believe that Al Taliaferro drew Grandma's car
first. But, I am not sure (as we all might guess based on the above note to
Harry). Perhaps David or someone else knowledgeable on the DD Daily strips can
tell us. Barks didn't draw it until 1950. I'm almost certain I saw it in a
1940s strip.
Regarding the model for it: I think it may have been a composite of the late
1890s and early 1900s (horseless carriage models) mixed with the late 1910s
Milburn and Detroit Electric styles; because her car is not built as solidly as
the 1918-19 models, the running boards are different, and the wheels and lamps
are also more old fashioned.
Rob Klein
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Luca Boschi
DCML digest, Vol 1 #991 - 19 msgs
Message 22 -
2002-07-02 at 00:21:29
Hallo, Sue and Gary Leach (and everybody):
>> The German Barks Library says it has been redrawn by Daan Jippes and a team
>> of Dutch artists. Pages 1-5 and 10 look like Jippes.
All this is very interesting. About Daan and his "remaking" old Barks'
stories, I also wish to know if "DD's Atom Bomb" redrawn by him for the
Dutch "Donald Duck" is the *same* version printed in
The Carl Barks Library, or a different one. Just today, incidentally I
stumped into an old catalogue that Daan sent me in the early 90es, where
many original pages by him were offered. Among them, there's also one of 'em
coming from "Race to South Seas", CBL
Set VI, Volume One). It's the same reprinted in DDA # 26, 1992 (but with the
pages' numberscut). Well, in DDA # 26 Daan is not credited, and the same
happened for the Italian translation of that story, in ZP 40.
In case of reprinting, it'd be necessary to do it, isn't it?
Thanks in advance,
Luca
>> The German Barks Library says it has been redrawn by Daan Jippes and a team
>> of Dutch artists. Pages 1-5 and 10 look like Jippes.
All this is very interesting. About Daan and his "remaking" old Barks'
stories, I also wish to know if "DD's Atom Bomb" redrawn by him for the
Dutch "Donald Duck" is the *same* version printed in
The Carl Barks Library, or a different one. Just today, incidentally I
stumped into an old catalogue that Daan sent me in the early 90es, where
many original pages by him were offered. Among them, there's also one of 'em
coming from "Race to South Seas", CBL
Set VI, Volume One). It's the same reprinted in DDA # 26, 1992 (but with the
pages' numberscut). Well, in DDA # 26 Daan is not credited, and the same
happened for the Italian translation of that story, in ZP 40.
In case of reprinting, it'd be necessary to do it, isn't it?
Thanks in advance,
Luca
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
12 Duckburg landmarks
Message 23 -
2002-07-02 at 00:24:53
Don Rosa <donrosa at iglou.com>
> So... I think this is my current list (further
> comments follow it):
> 1) the Money Bin
> 2) Cornelius Coot statue
> 3) Fort Duckburg
> 4) Junior Woodchucks of the World world HQ
> 5) Duckburg Museum
> 6) Notre Duck
> 7) the Millionaire's Club
> 8) Cape Quack w/ lighthouse
> 9) Pizarro's Galleon (in some park)
> 10) Mount Demontooth
> 11) Gyro's workshop
> 12) Duckburg City Hall / Town Square
This looks great. However I still think that Mount
Demontooth should be removed from this list. I can
give several reasons for this:
a) A mountain is boring. It has no history since it
has always been there.
b) The 11 other landmarks are constructions built by
people.
I think that Scrooges Zoo should be added instead. It
can't be that far from Duckburg, and it has appeared
in several stories.
Best regards from
Sigvald :-)
______________________________________________________
F?lg VM i fotball 2002 p? http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
> So... I think this is my current list (further
> comments follow it):
> 1) the Money Bin
> 2) Cornelius Coot statue
> 3) Fort Duckburg
> 4) Junior Woodchucks of the World world HQ
> 5) Duckburg Museum
> 6) Notre Duck
> 7) the Millionaire's Club
> 8) Cape Quack w/ lighthouse
> 9) Pizarro's Galleon (in some park)
> 10) Mount Demontooth
> 11) Gyro's workshop
> 12) Duckburg City Hall / Town Square
This looks great. However I still think that Mount
Demontooth should be removed from this list. I can
give several reasons for this:
a) A mountain is boring. It has no history since it
has always been there.
b) The 11 other landmarks are constructions built by
people.
I think that Scrooges Zoo should be added instead. It
can't be that far from Duckburg, and it has appeared
in several stories.
Best regards from
Sigvald :-)
______________________________________________________
F?lg VM i fotball 2002 p? http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
Shelley Hanson
Chemistry
Message 24 -
2002-07-02 at 06:41:05
An interesting but rather duckless link:
* The Periodic Table of Comic Books
http://www.uky.edu/Projects/Chemcomics/
The careful mixing of chemistry and comics has produced this
curious compound: a Web site that documents the appearance
of elements in the pages of comic books.
* The Periodic Table of Comic Books
http://www.uky.edu/Projects/Chemcomics/
The careful mixing of chemistry and comics has produced this
curious compound: a Web site that documents the appearance
of elements in the pages of comic books.
Kriton Kyrimis
KOMIX #169
Message 25 -
2002-07-02 at 10:16:57
Here's what's in this month's issue of Komix:
* Cover by Don Rosa. I have put a scan at
http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis/pics/komix169.jpg
* Two pages of letters.
* Two pages with "the news of Komix". Among the news items is a reference
to a new, yet unpublished story by Don, about the Beagles using one
of Gyro's inventions to enter Scrooge's mind while dreaming, hoping
to learn the combination of his money bin this way, only to find that
Scrooge does not dream of money.
* "The Lost Charts of Columbus", by Don Rosa. (D94144)
* A one page article titled "The Lost Charts of Columbus", subtitled
"Travels in history, in search of the footsteps of Carl Barks".
* "Plastic Mickey", written by Michael Gilbert and drawn by Cesar Ferioli.
(D93303)
* A four page article, titled "The Manga Epic", subtitled "Japanese comics
conquer the planet".
* "A Midsummer's Night Duck", written by Pat McGreal and drawn by Vicar.
(D96327)
* A one page advertisement about Pokemon and Harry Potter cards, posing
as an article, followed, of course, by an actual ad.
* "Fishy Warden", by Carl Barks. (From Uncle Scrooge #31.)
Komix #164 and #165 did not have any articles about Don, so I will not
be posting any translations this month.
--
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(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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"It sets such a bad precedent when you start letting the world come to an end
every week or so. It seems to erode the confidence people have in their
governments for some reason."
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* Cover by Don Rosa. I have put a scan at
http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis/pics/komix169.jpg
* Two pages of letters.
* Two pages with "the news of Komix". Among the news items is a reference
to a new, yet unpublished story by Don, about the Beagles using one
of Gyro's inventions to enter Scrooge's mind while dreaming, hoping
to learn the combination of his money bin this way, only to find that
Scrooge does not dream of money.
* "The Lost Charts of Columbus", by Don Rosa. (D94144)
* A one page article titled "The Lost Charts of Columbus", subtitled
"Travels in history, in search of the footsteps of Carl Barks".
* "Plastic Mickey", written by Michael Gilbert and drawn by Cesar Ferioli.
(D93303)
* A four page article, titled "The Manga Epic", subtitled "Japanese comics
conquer the planet".
* "A Midsummer's Night Duck", written by Pat McGreal and drawn by Vicar.
(D96327)
* A one page advertisement about Pokemon and Harry Potter cards, posing
as an article, followed, of course, by an actual ad.
* "Fishy Warden", by Carl Barks. (From Uncle Scrooge #31.)
Komix #164 and #165 did not have any articles about Don, so I will not
be posting any translations this month.
--
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"It sets such a bad precedent when you start letting the world come to an end
every week or so. It seems to erode the confidence people have in their
governments for some reason."
-----
Halsten Aastebol
12 Duckburg landmarks
Message 26 -
2002-07-02 at 11:19:41
At 23:24 01.07.02 +0200, Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr. wrote:
>This looks great. However I still think that Mount
>Demontooth should be removed from this list. I can
>give several reasons for this:
>a) A mountain is boring. It has no history since it
>has always been there.
Huh? Since when did a spectacular mountain become boring? Haven't you been
around in your own region gazing at pulpit rock or the Kjerag wall? Boring,
no way! No history? Are you saying the Matterhorn has no history to it? Or
what about Ayers rock? Olympos......
A mountain within a city will always be one that city's important
landmarks, like Sugarloaf and Corcovado (with the statue of Christ the
Redeemer) in Rio de Janeiro.
Regards
Halsten
>This looks great. However I still think that Mount
>Demontooth should be removed from this list. I can
>give several reasons for this:
>a) A mountain is boring. It has no history since it
>has always been there.
Huh? Since when did a spectacular mountain become boring? Haven't you been
around in your own region gazing at pulpit rock or the Kjerag wall? Boring,
no way! No history? Are you saying the Matterhorn has no history to it? Or
what about Ayers rock? Olympos......
A mountain within a city will always be one that city's important
landmarks, like Sugarloaf and Corcovado (with the statue of Christ the
Redeemer) in Rio de Janeiro.
Regards
Halsten
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
12 Duckburg landmarks
Message 27 -
2002-07-02 at 11:41:23
Halsten Aastebol wrote:
>
>> a) A mountain is boring. It has no history since
>> it has always been there.
>
> Huh? Since when did a spectacular mountain become
> boring? Haven't you been around in your own region
> gazing at Pulpit rock...
Yes I've been there. But the Pulpit rock (Prekestolen)
is a landmark in Rogaland, not in Stavanger. And I
guess that Mount Demontooth is more a Calisota
landmark (located near Duckburg) than a Duckburg
landmark.
> A mountain within a city...
Are you sure that it's located within the city? To me
it seems to be lokated somewhere outside the city.
Sigvald :-)
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>
>> a) A mountain is boring. It has no history since
>> it has always been there.
>
> Huh? Since when did a spectacular mountain become
> boring? Haven't you been around in your own region
> gazing at Pulpit rock...
Yes I've been there. But the Pulpit rock (Prekestolen)
is a landmark in Rogaland, not in Stavanger. And I
guess that Mount Demontooth is more a Calisota
landmark (located near Duckburg) than a Duckburg
landmark.
> A mountain within a city...
Are you sure that it's located within the city? To me
it seems to be lokated somewhere outside the city.
Sigvald :-)
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Halsten Aastebol
12 Duckburg landmarks
Message 28 -
2002-07-02 at 12:24:45
At 10:41 02.07.02 +0200, Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr. wrote:
>Yes I've been there. But the Pulpit rock (Prekestolen)
>is a landmark in Rogaland, not in Stavanger.
Well, my point was that it's definitely a landmark and not at all boring. I
do not think of it as a landmark of the the city of Stavanger. It's too far
away.
> And I
>guess that Mount Demontooth is more a Calisota
>landmark (located near Duckburg) than a Duckburg
>landmark.
>
> > A mountain within a city...
>
>Are you sure that it's located within the city? To me
>it seems to be lokated somewhere outside the city.
From the stories where it appears, it's quite obvious Mount Demontooth is
so close to Duckburg that there must be a fantastic view of the city and
it's surroundings from the summit, and Mount Demontooth is probably visible
from most parts of the city. Therefore, it's an obvious landmark.
Regards
Halsten
>Yes I've been there. But the Pulpit rock (Prekestolen)
>is a landmark in Rogaland, not in Stavanger.
Well, my point was that it's definitely a landmark and not at all boring. I
do not think of it as a landmark of the the city of Stavanger. It's too far
away.
> And I
>guess that Mount Demontooth is more a Calisota
>landmark (located near Duckburg) than a Duckburg
>landmark.
>
> > A mountain within a city...
>
>Are you sure that it's located within the city? To me
>it seems to be lokated somewhere outside the city.
From the stories where it appears, it's quite obvious Mount Demontooth is
so close to Duckburg that there must be a fantastic view of the city and
it's surroundings from the summit, and Mount Demontooth is probably visible
from most parts of the city. Therefore, it's an obvious landmark.
Regards
Halsten
Timo Ronkainen
Chemistry
Message 29 -
2002-07-02 at 13:32:21
>An interesting but rather duckless link:
>
>* The Periodic Table of Comic Books
>http://www.uky.edu/Projects/Chemcomics/
Sure there is Mad Chemist and some other duck stuff:
http://www.uky.edu/Projects/Chemcomics/html/nitrogen.html
Timo
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>
>* The Periodic Table of Comic Books
>http://www.uky.edu/Projects/Chemcomics/
Sure there is Mad Chemist and some other duck stuff:
http://www.uky.edu/Projects/Chemcomics/html/nitrogen.html
Timo
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Grandma Duck's car
Message 30 -
2002-07-02 at 14:35:32
Timo,
Thanks for the great link!
George
----- Original Message -----
From: timo ronkainen
To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: Grandma Duck's car
>George Milburn:
>>1919 Milburn Electric
>>automobile. Their website suggests that Grandma Duck's car was patterned
Halsten Aastebol:
>Trondheim, Norway in 1991 claims that Grandma's car was a Detroit Electric.
Detroit electric is most often mentioned with Grandma Duck's car. They look
a like too. I don't know about Milburn Electric. Is there any pic's on web?
Grandma's car on Gilles Maurice's great page:
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/cars/grandma.html
Timo
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Thanks for the great link!
George
----- Original Message -----
From: timo ronkainen
To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: Grandma Duck's car
>George Milburn:
>>1919 Milburn Electric
>>automobile. Their website suggests that Grandma Duck's car was patterned
Halsten Aastebol:
>Trondheim, Norway in 1991 claims that Grandma's car was a Detroit Electric.
Detroit electric is most often mentioned with Grandma Duck's car. They look
a like too. I don't know about Milburn Electric. Is there any pic's on web?
Grandma's car on Gilles Maurice's great page:
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/cars/grandma.html
Timo
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20540 Turku ------------------- -
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