>a) Has Don Rosa drawn other covers for NAFS(k)urien?
>And if so, on what issues?
Oh yes. Check them here:
http://www.nafsk.se/kurir/index.html
Most of the covers have been scanned.
Nafs(k)uriren is A5 in size.
Timo
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Timo Ronkainen
Nafs(k)uriren
Message 166 -
2002-07-18 at 11:17:38
Kriton Kyrimis
Politics in Duckburg
Message 167 -
2002-07-18 at 11:38:10
SIGVALD:
> the job as a mayor at least in the Duck/McDuck family.
> I would think that in Duckburg as in the rest of the
> US, there would only be a few candidates for the job
> as a mayor, because one would need both strong
> economic and moral support to go for such a campaign.
Are you implying that, in a democracy, only rich people can be candidates
for office?
[The problem is not with being a candidate, but with actually getting
elected, which is where money and political backing play an important
part. :( A couple elections back, when I happened to count the
candidates, there were something like forty different candidates for
mayor of Athens. Most of them were lumped from the start as "others",
and hardly got any votes.]
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
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> the job as a mayor at least in the Duck/McDuck family.
> I would think that in Duckburg as in the rest of the
> US, there would only be a few candidates for the job
> as a mayor, because one would need both strong
> economic and moral support to go for such a campaign.
Are you implying that, in a democracy, only rich people can be candidates
for office?
[The problem is not with being a candidate, but with actually getting
elected, which is where money and political backing play an important
part. :( A couple elections back, when I happened to count the
candidates, there were something like forty different candidates for
mayor of Athens. Most of them were lumped from the start as "others",
and hardly got any votes.]
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
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MIKY MAOUS et al
Message 168 -
2002-07-18 at 11:51:34
ARCHONTIS:
> b) Donald Duck in "Famous Failure", D-99232, 12 pages. Script: Dave Rawson;
> Art: Vicar
This is only conjecture, but I suspect that the Greek version of this
story contains a reference to me: In one page in this story, Donald goes
to work for the campaign office of a politician, whose name in Greek is
given as "Kriton Delapatrides".
Armandos Delapatrides was a crackpot who used to make fiery political
speeches in Athens in the 1920s and 1930s, until he was put away in an
asylum; politicians saw him as a threat, because he drew people away from
actual political gatherings!
With an uncommon name like mine, I leave it as an exercise to the
reader to guess how many Kritons the translator might be aware of... ;-)
In any case, I like the name combination!
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> b) Donald Duck in "Famous Failure", D-99232, 12 pages. Script: Dave Rawson;
> Art: Vicar
This is only conjecture, but I suspect that the Greek version of this
story contains a reference to me: In one page in this story, Donald goes
to work for the campaign office of a politician, whose name in Greek is
given as "Kriton Delapatrides".
Armandos Delapatrides was a crackpot who used to make fiery political
speeches in Athens in the 1920s and 1930s, until he was put away in an
asylum; politicians saw him as a threat, because he drew people away from
actual political gatherings!
With an uncommon name like mine, I leave it as an exercise to the
reader to guess how many Kritons the translator might be aware of... ;-)
In any case, I like the name combination!
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Politics in Duckburg
Message 169 -
2002-07-18 at 13:12:25
Kriton Kyrimis <kyrimis at cti.gr> skrev:
> Are you implying that, in a democracy, only rich
> people can be candidates for office?
No, but at least in the US a campaign is very
expensive. That's why US candidates (at least for the
presidency) need an enormous amount of money to run
their campaigns.
Sigvald :-)
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> Are you implying that, in a democracy, only rich
> people can be candidates for office?
No, but at least in the US a campaign is very
expensive. That's why US candidates (at least for the
presidency) need an enormous amount of money to run
their campaigns.
Sigvald :-)
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Politics in Duckburg
Message 170 -
2002-07-18 at 13:33:45
Sigvald:
>>b) HD&L are candidates even though they are children.
That's absurd. It should be obvious that people in
Duckburg would acquire the right to vote and the right
to be a candidate for an election campaign at the age
of 18 as it is most other civilised societies in the
world.
Sure, but Duckburg is not a democracy, but a COMICracy ;-)
And if you give it a second thought, for that same reason HDL shouldn't do
most of the things they usually do (say driving, hiring, doing jobs,
travelling alone, etc).
Or there is another possible explanation: HDL are 6 each one. If they form
one single candidature, 6x3=18 ;-)
Santiago.
>>b) HD&L are candidates even though they are children.
That's absurd. It should be obvious that people in
Duckburg would acquire the right to vote and the right
to be a candidate for an election campaign at the age
of 18 as it is most other civilised societies in the
world.
Sure, but Duckburg is not a democracy, but a COMICracy ;-)
And if you give it a second thought, for that same reason HDL shouldn't do
most of the things they usually do (say driving, hiring, doing jobs,
travelling alone, etc).
Or there is another possible explanation: HDL are 6 each one. If they form
one single candidature, 6x3=18 ;-)
Santiago.
Thomas Pryds Lauritsen
Nafs(k)uriren
Message 171 -
2002-07-18 at 13:43:50
Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr. wrote:
> a) Has Don Rosa drawn other covers for NAFS(k)urien?
> And if so, on what issues?
At least the one with the "Gearloose Universal Translator" from
NAFS(k)uriren #22. Also worth having a look at is the back cover of
NAFS(k)uriren #30. It looks very much like the art of Don Rosa but
actually it's done by Ted Johansson. I have scanned all three if you
want to have a look:
http://lokal.prydslauritsen.dk/misc/se_nk_22a_001.png
http://lokal.prydslauritsen.dk/misc/se_nk_30x_001.png
http://lokal.prydslauritsen.dk/misc/se_nk_31a_001.png
> b) Does there exist an I.N.D.U.C.K.S. code for the
> cover of NAFS(k)urien # 31?
Yes: http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/magazine.php/0/se/NK
> c) What is the actual size of the cover af
> NAFS(k)urien #31? (is it A4? A5? or something else?)
As someone else pointed out they are in A5 format. Or, at least the
issues I have are.
Thomas
--
Thomas Pryds Lauritsen
"There is the theory of the Moebius.
A twist in the fabric of space where time becomes a loop."
> a) Has Don Rosa drawn other covers for NAFS(k)urien?
> And if so, on what issues?
At least the one with the "Gearloose Universal Translator" from
NAFS(k)uriren #22. Also worth having a look at is the back cover of
NAFS(k)uriren #30. It looks very much like the art of Don Rosa but
actually it's done by Ted Johansson. I have scanned all three if you
want to have a look:
http://lokal.prydslauritsen.dk/misc/se_nk_22a_001.png
http://lokal.prydslauritsen.dk/misc/se_nk_30x_001.png
http://lokal.prydslauritsen.dk/misc/se_nk_31a_001.png
> b) Does there exist an I.N.D.U.C.K.S. code for the
> cover of NAFS(k)urien # 31?
Yes: http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/magazine.php/0/se/NK
> c) What is the actual size of the cover af
> NAFS(k)urien #31? (is it A4? A5? or something else?)
As someone else pointed out they are in A5 format. Or, at least the
issues I have are.
Thomas
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A twist in the fabric of space where time becomes a loop."
Kriton Kyrimis
Politics in Duckburg
Message 172 -
2002-07-18 at 13:48:10
> No, but at least in the US a campaign is very
> expensive. That's why US candidates (at least for the
> presidency) need an enormous amount of money to run
> their campaigns.
As I said in my previous message, it's not being a candidate that's
expensive; it's getting elected that is! Even in the US, I understand
that there are usually more than two presidential candidates.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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> expensive. That's why US candidates (at least for the
> presidency) need an enormous amount of money to run
> their campaigns.
As I said in my previous message, it's not being a candidate that's
expensive; it's getting elected that is! Even in the US, I understand
that there are usually more than two presidential candidates.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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Thomas Pryds Lauritsen
NAFS(k)urien - what year?
Message 173 -
2002-07-18 at 14:00:02
Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr. wrote:
> Sorry that NAFS(k)urien was written wrongly in the
> header of my latest mail to this list.
Actually, it *is* spelled "NAFS(k)uriren".
> It seems that our Swedish friends haven't botthered to
> include the year NAFS(k)urien # 31 was published on
> it's cover so I have to ask if anyone her knows that?
It is published once a year and issue #30 says January 1999 and #32 says
October 2001. It is therefore very likely that is was published in 2000
-- *however* Stefan Persson has indexed it in Inducks with a publication
date of February 2001 (maybe it was late?)
Thomas
--
Thomas Pryds Lauritsen
"There is the theory of the Moebius.
A twist in the fabric of space where time becomes a loop."
> Sorry that NAFS(k)urien was written wrongly in the
> header of my latest mail to this list.
Actually, it *is* spelled "NAFS(k)uriren".
> It seems that our Swedish friends haven't botthered to
> include the year NAFS(k)urien # 31 was published on
> it's cover so I have to ask if anyone her knows that?
It is published once a year and issue #30 says January 1999 and #32 says
October 2001. It is therefore very likely that is was published in 2000
-- *however* Stefan Persson has indexed it in Inducks with a publication
date of February 2001 (maybe it was late?)
Thomas
--
Thomas Pryds Lauritsen
"There is the theory of the Moebius.
A twist in the fabric of space where time becomes a loop."
SRoweCanoe
Politics in Duckburg
Message 174 -
2002-07-18 at 14:04:56
In a message dated 7/18/2002 6:15:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
sigvald4 at yahoo.no writes:
> No, but at least in the US a campaign is very
> expensive. That's why US candidates (at least for the
> presidency) need an enormous amount of money to run
> their campaigns.
>
almost all US campaigns need massive and enormous amounts of money.
steven rowe
sigvald4 at yahoo.no writes:
> No, but at least in the US a campaign is very
> expensive. That's why US candidates (at least for the
> presidency) need an enormous amount of money to run
> their campaigns.
>
almost all US campaigns need massive and enormous amounts of money.
steven rowe
Mattias Hallin
NAFS(k)urien - what year?
Message 175 -
2002-07-18 at 14:31:17
On Thu, 18 Jul 2002, Thomas Pryds Lauritsen wrote:
> It is published once a year and issue #30 says January 1999 and #32 says
> October 2001. It is therefore very likely that is was published in 2000
> -- *however* Stefan Persson has indexed it in Inducks with a publication
> date of February 2001 (maybe it was late?)
On page 2 of NAFS(k)uriren 31 it says clearly that it was printed in
January 2001. Furthermore, as an ex-editor of NAFS(k)uriren, I know only
too well that it never had anything even close to a regular schedule. A
new issue would be published when a) there was enough material available,
and b) the editors could find the time to do something about it.
Furthermore I assume that the question regarding the size of the Don Rosa
cover of NK 31 was to find out the size of the original. Being only
marginally involved in the editorial work for that issue, I don't remember
for sure anymore, nor do know for certain whether we actually had the
original drawing or just a very good colour copy. I'm fairly sure, though,
that whatever we used as original, it was about two and a half times the
size of the actual cover, maybe something like 26x40 cm or thereabouts.
All the best,
/Mattias
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> It is published once a year and issue #30 says January 1999 and #32 says
> October 2001. It is therefore very likely that is was published in 2000
> -- *however* Stefan Persson has indexed it in Inducks with a publication
> date of February 2001 (maybe it was late?)
On page 2 of NAFS(k)uriren 31 it says clearly that it was printed in
January 2001. Furthermore, as an ex-editor of NAFS(k)uriren, I know only
too well that it never had anything even close to a regular schedule. A
new issue would be published when a) there was enough material available,
and b) the editors could find the time to do something about it.
Furthermore I assume that the question regarding the size of the Don Rosa
cover of NK 31 was to find out the size of the original. Being only
marginally involved in the editorial work for that issue, I don't remember
for sure anymore, nor do know for certain whether we actually had the
original drawing or just a very good colour copy. I'm fairly sure, though,
that whatever we used as original, it was about two and a half times the
size of the actual cover, maybe something like 26x40 cm or thereabouts.
All the best,
/Mattias
*** Mattias Hallin ** Brussels ** Belgium ** <cmhallin at algonet.se> ***
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Dan Shane
Duckburg landmarks
Message 176 -
2002-07-18 at 15:49:51
CHARLES WROTE:
> With regards to the Mad Duke's Castle - it's entirely
> possible that it's a relatively new building. There is a castle here in
> Toronto that was built in the early 1900s, and was abandoned not too long
> after it was built when the owner went broke. It sat empty for
> decades, and
> was falling apart before it was turned into a tourist attraction.
> The same
> kind of thing might be said for the Mad Duke's place: it was just left to
> fall apart, and the Duckburg rain and winters probably didn't help any!
> Anyway, just my 2 cents.
AND I REPLY:
I've seen that place! It's CASA LOMA, and it is a fabulous tour. The story
of the owner and his poor wife being told while viewing the amazing home is
heartbreaking. The castle was the site of a display of the armour,
weaponry, and other props used in THE LORD OF THE RINGS movie, as I recall.
And of course, there is the prerequisite legend of the house now being
"haunted" by its former owners, so it is a fitting analogy for the Mad
Duke's castle.
Dan
> With regards to the Mad Duke's Castle - it's entirely
> possible that it's a relatively new building. There is a castle here in
> Toronto that was built in the early 1900s, and was abandoned not too long
> after it was built when the owner went broke. It sat empty for
> decades, and
> was falling apart before it was turned into a tourist attraction.
> The same
> kind of thing might be said for the Mad Duke's place: it was just left to
> fall apart, and the Duckburg rain and winters probably didn't help any!
> Anyway, just my 2 cents.
AND I REPLY:
I've seen that place! It's CASA LOMA, and it is a fabulous tour. The story
of the owner and his poor wife being told while viewing the amazing home is
heartbreaking. The castle was the site of a display of the armour,
weaponry, and other props used in THE LORD OF THE RINGS movie, as I recall.
And of course, there is the prerequisite legend of the house now being
"haunted" by its former owners, so it is a fitting analogy for the Mad
Duke's castle.
Dan
CarmenG
Castles, movies, & songs
Message 177 -
2002-07-18 at 17:01:51
>>With regards to the Mad Duke's Castle - it's entirely
possible that it's a relatively new building. There is a castle here in
Toronto that was built in the early 1900s, and was abandoned not too long
after it was built<<
Charles:
--not only Toronto, but in a small town like Versailles, Kentucky! We have a
castle here, too, also built by a millionare but never used. This was built
more recently, though, perhaps in the 1970s?
Italian members:
Thank you for the translations of I Soliti ignoti. Some of you privately
asked me where Donald Duck appears in the movie, so I thought it might be of
some mild interest here.
I don't want to spoil what is a sweet and funny scene, so I'll just say that
he is on three identical aprons worn in the movie.
This got me to thinking about the use of Disney characters in non-Disney
works. It seems unusual, given how strict the company is about their use. I
remember reading that Gene Kelley in "Anchors Aweigh" was originally supposed
to dance with Mickey Mouse, but Disney wouldn't allow it, so Jerry Mouse was
used instead. (I'm not sure of the truth of this, but that's what I heard.)
Mickey Mouse is mentioned in Cole Porter's song "You're the Top," and I
believe Donald Duck is in "Hooray for Hollywood."
Any others?
Carmen
possible that it's a relatively new building. There is a castle here in
Toronto that was built in the early 1900s, and was abandoned not too long
after it was built<<
Charles:
--not only Toronto, but in a small town like Versailles, Kentucky! We have a
castle here, too, also built by a millionare but never used. This was built
more recently, though, perhaps in the 1970s?
Italian members:
Thank you for the translations of I Soliti ignoti. Some of you privately
asked me where Donald Duck appears in the movie, so I thought it might be of
some mild interest here.
I don't want to spoil what is a sweet and funny scene, so I'll just say that
he is on three identical aprons worn in the movie.
This got me to thinking about the use of Disney characters in non-Disney
works. It seems unusual, given how strict the company is about their use. I
remember reading that Gene Kelley in "Anchors Aweigh" was originally supposed
to dance with Mickey Mouse, but Disney wouldn't allow it, so Jerry Mouse was
used instead. (I'm not sure of the truth of this, but that's what I heard.)
Mickey Mouse is mentioned in Cole Porter's song "You're the Top," and I
believe Donald Duck is in "Hooray for Hollywood."
Any others?
Carmen
Timo Ronkainen
Castles, movies, & songs
Message 178 -
2002-07-18 at 17:29:41
>Mickey Mouse is mentioned in Cole Porter's song "You're the Top," and I
>believe Donald Duck is in "Hooray for Hollywood."
>Any others?
In Finland singer/song writer Georg Malmsten made several (four at least)
children songs using Mickey Mouse in 1930's. "Mikki Hiiri Merihädässä" was
one of them (MM peril at sea). I think no lawsuit or anything like that was
never made. Perhaps he got permission.
Timo
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>believe Donald Duck is in "Hooray for Hollywood."
>Any others?
In Finland singer/song writer Georg Malmsten made several (four at least)
children songs using Mickey Mouse in 1930's. "Mikki Hiiri Merihädässä" was
one of them (MM peril at sea). I think no lawsuit or anything like that was
never made. Perhaps he got permission.
Timo
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A question
Message 179 -
2002-07-18 at 18:28:00
Erik Horthe wrote to me, and asked the following question:
>Hi
>
>I am trying to contact one of you from the dcml-list, asking a question: Do
>you think it is possible to buy the sheet with 5 stamps with Disney-motives
>that was released in Fonland March 13th 2001? Where in case do I ask?
>
>Thanks for help!
>
>
>Erik Horthe
So, can someone answer this for me? I don't really know what he is talking
about.
Eero-Pekka
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>Hi
>
>I am trying to contact one of you from the dcml-list, asking a question: Do
>you think it is possible to buy the sheet with 5 stamps with Disney-motives
>that was released in Fonland March 13th 2001? Where in case do I ask?
>
>Thanks for help!
>
>
>Erik Horthe
So, can someone answer this for me? I don't really know what he is talking
about.
Eero-Pekka
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A question
Message 180 -
2002-07-18 at 18:38:08
Oh. I read Erik's message too quickly. He means those stamps in Finland, oh
yes (thanks Antti!). Antti also said that they are still being sold att post
offices. Well, I'll tell Erik.
Eero-Pekka
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yes (thanks Antti!). Antti also said that they are still being sold att post
offices. Well, I'll tell Erik.
Eero-Pekka
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