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SRoweCanoe
In a message dated 9/24/2002 7:19:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Halsten.Aastebol at elkraft.ntnu.no writes:

> It's possible that I'm real slow here, but does that mean that Little Orphan
> Annie is the very same as in the musical "Annie"?
>

i dont know about you being slow, but yes, the musical "annie" was based on
the comic strip: Little Orphan Annie (with the politics removed: Gray was an
FDR-bahser)

steven rowe
Frank Bubacz
>From: Halsten Aastebol

>It's possible that I'm real slow here, but does that mean that Little
>Orphan Annie is the very same as in the musical "Annie"?

Yes. John Huston directed it and Albert Finney played Daddy Warbucks, if I'm
not mistaken.

BTW, J.D.Hackensacker III. is also missing in the list.

Frank

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Yes, Daddy Warbucks was a good american who made his fortune selling arms
and was very proud (like Annie) of his honest work. Is something like the
father of "Commander Barbara" (?) from Bernard Shaw. Anyway, like Scrooge
McDuck, he would lost all his money for regain trough his skills in
business.
I always think, that Daddy Warbucks would be some influence in the Scrooge's
characterization, but I'm not sure.

Beyond all that, I can say that "Little Orphan Annie" is a great comic, I
think is fascinant.

FABIO
from the new depression land ;)

> At 23:32 23.09.02 -0700, lgiver at postoffice.pacbell.net wrote:
> >I don't
> >know much about Little Orphan Annie, but I suppose at some point
> >she was adopted by Big Daddy Warbucks.
> > ---Larry Giver.
>
> Warbucks.... Does that name suggest that he made his bucks through war
> related activities during WW1? (selling arms, profiting from black market
> or something)
>
> Regards
> Halsten
>
> _______________________________________________
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Cebarat
Just for the record: Richie Rich has been around in one form or another since
1953, and once held the (US) record for the most comic-book titles
concurrently devoted to a single character. You can find out more about him
at

http://thft.home.att.net

Daddy Warbucks has been a leading character in the Little Orphan Annie (now
just Annie) comic strip since the 1920s.

Chris Barat
Soeren Schridde
Hi all,

I didn't read about this in the ML so far, so I wanted to tell you:

In the German weekly Micky Maus the editors did some things relating
to the (at that point) upcoming election of the German parliament.
They published several stories related to politics over the last
weeks and also did some elections for the major of Duckburg. An
indirect link to the actual campaigns in Germany was the name of a
small boy in one of the stories: Gerd-Edmund, mixing the first names
of the two candidates Gerhard Schroeder and Edmund Stoiber...

Candidates with the actual no. of votes:
- Donald 3525
- Micky 2118
- Scrooge 925
- Goofy 890
- a Beagle Boy 377
- Grandma Duck 361,
but the votes sent in by snail mail still not included.

In their newsletter Ehapa stated they got even a request from a
famous German museum (don't remember which, but related to German
history and/or politics) for the albums to be archived.

What are your comments on this, i.e. following actual main topics in
the "adult world" with stories and interactive things?

And another thing that puzzled me lately:
In some albums included are reader polls to be sent back as feedback.
In the case of the weekly Micky Maus, not targeted towards
collectors, but mainly on kids, should an relatively old collector
like me (26) send that in?

I fear that my judgment on pages containing special interest stuff /
no comics will be different from that one of the average buyer of it.
So do you see the danger, too, to take influence promoting my own,
"not target-group" opinion in a way that moves the product "Micky
Maus" away from the opinion's group that pays the most!

Yours, SoerenSoeren Schridde
------
Diskussionszitat zur Notwendigkeit von Datenschutz:
>Versucht mal, einem Durchschnittsmenschen die
>Wichtigkeit von Datenschutz zu erkl?ren! Da kommt
>immer nur: "Ich hab doch nix zu verbergen!"
Frag mal Deine Nachbarin, ob sie damit einverstanden ist,
wenn der Brieftr?ger vor ihren Augen ihre Post ?ffnet,
den Inhalt mit dem Lesestift abscannt und ihr erkl?rt,
diese Unterlage jetzt zur Polizei zu bringen, damit sie
dort sieben Jahre gespeichert und ausgewertet werden kann.
Das ist vielleicht ein bisschen weniger abstrakt als
"Datenschutz"...
vgl. http://www.heise.de/tp/deutsch/special/enfo/7968/1.html

Martinistr. 52, 49078 Osnabrueck, Germany, Earth
eMail: sschridde at web.de (2nd: sschridde at gmx.de)
Tel./Fax: Acc.Code+ (0)541/44063343
Lgiver
I'm finally looking at some of the many details in Don Rosa's
Life & Times of Scrooge, part 11, which covers the
years 1909 to 1930. In Scrooge's first trip after completion of
his money bin, he takes his sisters up the Congo and Mumbo
Jumbo rivers to buy the Kachoonga diamond mine from
Chief Boo-boo of the Qwak Qwak tribe. He gives the
chief a coin with "a miniature portrait of the chief of my
village" (page 5, panel 5). Chief Boo-boo looks it over, and
reads: "ooo---chief 'quarter-dollar'! Most impressive".
Scrooge gave him an American quarter-dollar with an
American president's portrait on it?
Scrooge couldn't do that, because George Washington
wasn't on the quarter-dollar until 1932. No president was
on any American coin until 1909, unlike today, when
presidents are on all fractional-dollar coins. Lincoln (Disney's
favorite president, although others may disagree) was
the first on a coin, the penny, in 1909, followed by
Washington on the quarter in 1932, Jefferson on the
5-cent coin in 1938, Franklin D. Rosevelt on the 10-cent
coin in 1946, and Kennedy on the half-dollar in 1964, and
they're all still there.
So in 1909 or 1910, the only coin Scrooge could have featuring
"the chief of my village" would have been the Lincoln penny!
Scrooge should have given chief Boo-Boo a brand-new shiny
copper penny, featuring 'chief one-cent'. The 1909 pennies from
the San Francisco (not Sacramento) mint with the tiny letters
V.D.B. under the portrait (sort of like Rosa's d.u.c.k.) are in big
demand by those dreaded coin collectors, so if chief Boo-Boo
had one of those in perfect condition, it would be worth almost
as much as an Uncle Scrooge #1 comic book in top condition!
------Larry Giver.
Shad Z.
Matt Feazel's content page doodles ("Dizzy Adventures") are
given story code JZ681

1) The Hair Pair, JZ686, 1 page.
Story and art by Charly La Greca.
Characters include Squatty da Hamster and Bernerd da Guinea
Pig.
Ignore what I said last time, The Hair Pair are definitely
Disney characters/properties, the Disney copyright appears
on their story again this month

2) Jet Pack Pets: "An Absorbing Adventure!", JZ680, 4 pages.
Story by Michael Stewart. Art by Scott Koblish.
Jet Pack Pets is not a Disney property, it is copyright
Michael Stewart & Garry Black.

3) Disney's Tall Tales, JZ683, 1/3 page.
Writing and art by Glenn McCoy.
Characters include Mickey Mouse and Goofy.

4) Monsters, Inc.: "Pie Power!", JZ684, 3 1/3 pages.
Story by Michael Stewart. Pencils by Steven Butler. Inks by
Jim Amash.
Characters include James "Sulley" Sullivan, Mike Wazowski
and Celia.

5) Beauty and the Beast: "Sittin' Pretty!", JZ685, 1 2/3
pages.
Story by John Green. Pencils by Steven Butler. Inks by Jim
Amash.
Characters include Beast, Cogsworth, Lumiere, Chip, Fifi
and Belle.

6) The Last Laugh: "Amazing new Pet Supplies!", JZ682, 1
page.
Written by John Green. Art by Jim Paillot.

Shad Z.????????????????????? ^Q^
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Anders Christian Siveb¾k
Hi all

(Danes, keep an eye out for the issue of Familie Journalen which I will
soon tell you the issue number of. Today from 2.15 to 3.30 a journalist
and photographer came her to interview me about our donaldist society. The
journalist had seen me in the regional newpaper where a 3 page article
about the society was published some weeks ago.)

Sigvald
>
>Have you seen this?
>http://www.forbes.com/2002/09/13/400fictional.html
>
>Today Norwegian Text-TV reffered to this list from a so-called serious
>American economic magazine called Forbes have somehow managed to put
>together this stupid list over the world's 15 richest fictional
>billionaires - which should make us all laugh:
>
>Rank Name Net Worth
>==========================================
>1. Santa Claus $ ??
>2. Richie Rich 24.7 billion
>3. Oliver "Daddy" Warbucks 10.0 billion
>4. Scrooge McDuck 8.2 billion
>5. Thurston Howell III 8.0 billion
>6. Willie Wonka 8.0 billion
>7. Bruce Wayne 6.3 billion
>8. Lex Luthor 4.7 billion
>9. J.R. Ewing 2.8 billion
>10. Auric Goldfinger 1.2 billion
>11. C. Montgomery Burns 1.0 billion
>12. Charles Foster Kane 1.0 billion
>13. Cruella De Vil 875 millon
>14. Gordon Gekko 650 millon
>15. Jay Gatsby 600 millon
>==========================================

We talked about the same thing today in Science -
Batmans alter ego Bruce Wayne was mentioned.

>Thirdly - how the he.. can they estimate Uncle $crooges fortune to ONLY
>$8.2 billion. That's completely ridiculus.
Comnpletely - in danish stories he usually has 25 fantaticatillions or
something the like..
>
>Fourthly - where the he.. is Flintheart Glomgold and Rockerduck?
They aren't known by the amateuers who made the list.

>My conlusion: the Forbes list of fiction billionaires is completely
>non-scientific and totally worthless.
It is - it's made by someone who just wanted to be fun, cause comics can't
be taken serious by some people.
>
>I'll say
>#1 - Scrooge McDuck
>#2 - Flintheart Glomgold
>#? - John D. Rockerduck
Hear hear
>
>And please forgive me for being a bit upset over this matter, but I hate
>it when stupid people neglects facts about our dear Ducks.
I understand you and I count the times that I've been annoyed of articles
with wrong facts. I've written letters to the reader column about
Timboktou not being placed in Faraway-satn as some insane traveller's
columnist claimed. - I've complained to the Norwegian journalist who used
egmonts press material for the blueprint-story where some experts made fun
about the bin. I felt ridiculed by the letter she send back.
But our job, as fans here and in out society, Sigvald is to inform these
media how things are. - The article in the newpaper about me was serious -
so will the next one be.
Let us neglect these amateurs and enjoy the comics and be postiviely
surprised when once in a while something is published which comes from an
actual comic fan who knows how many money this rich old scotsman has!

Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist
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> 2. Richie Rich and Warbucks
> (Vic Pratt)
> 3. Re: Who was Daddy Warbucks? (Halsten Aastebol)
> 4. Re: Who was Daddy Warbucks?
> (SRoweCanoe at aol.com)
> 5. Re: Who was Daddy Warbucks? (Frank Bubacz)
> 6. RE: Who was Daddy Warbucks? (Fabio Blanco)
> 7. Re: Richie and Daddy (Cebarat at aol.com)
> 8. political comics (Soeren Schridde)
> 9. Disney Adventures vol 12, no 8 (October 2002)
> (Shad Z.)
> 10. Scrooge paid too much for the Kachoonga
> diamond mine. (lgiver at postoffice.pacbell.net)
> 11. Re:#1080 (Anders
> Christian Siveb¾k)
>

> ATTACHMENT part 3.1 message/rfc822
> From: SRoweCanoe at aol.com
> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 06:14:27 EDT
> Subject: Re: Who was Daddy Warbucks?
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>
> In a message dated 9/24/2002 2:45:01 AM Eastern
> Daylight Time,
> lgiver at postoffice.pacbell.net writes:
>
>
> > Daddy Warbucks is certainly not a new character.
> He's from
> > the old (1924-1979) newspaper comic strip "Little
> Orphan Annie".
> >
>
> that strip is still running today, under the
> title"Annie"
>
> right, the Warbucks took on Annie real early in
> the strip (1925?)
> sr
>

> ATTACHMENT part 3.2 message/rfc822
> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:59:36 +0100 (BST)
> From: Vic Pratt <thebeesong at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Richie Rich and Warbucks
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>
> Daddy Warbucks is the bald-headed, rough tough
> adventurer millionaire of Harold Gray's excellent
> Little Orphan Annie newspaper strip. Warbucks is a
> kind of rugged individualist reflecting Gray's
> right-leaning politics...but don't let that put you
> off-though prone to moralising, Gray is a unique and
> gifted cartoonist, that you chaps ought to
> investigate...the strip is currently appearing in
> that
> fine magazine Comics Revue.
>
> As for Richie Rich, I have nothing good to say about
> him. He's some creepy weedy little spoilt rich kid,
> wearing some dumb velvet pantaloons and bow tie. By
> rights all comics featuring the little milksop
> should
> be shredded.
>
> But neither of these rich folk have a string
> collection to rival Mc Duck. He should be at the top
> of the list.
>
> Cheerio
>
> VIC
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 3.3 message/rfc822
> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:18:29 +0200
> To: SRoweCanoe at aol.com, dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> From: Halsten Aastebol
> <Halsten.Aastebol at elkraft.ntnu.no>
> Subject: Re: Who was Daddy Warbucks?
>
> At 06:14 24.09.02 -0400, SRoweCanoe at aol.com wrote:
> >In a message dated 9/24/2002 2:45:01 AM Eastern
> Daylight Time,
> >lgiver at postoffice.pacbell.net writes:
> >
> >
> >>Daddy Warbucks is certainly not a new character.
> He's from
> >>the old (1924-1979) newspaper comic strip "Little
> Orphan Annie".
> >
> >
> >that strip is still running today, under the
> title"Annie"
> >
> > right, the Warbucks took on Annie real early in
> the strip (1925?)
> >sr
>
> It's possible that I'm real slow here, but does that
> mean that Little
> Orphan Annie is the very same as in the musical
> "Annie"?
>
> Regards
> Halsten

> ATTACHMENT part 3.4 message/rfc822
> From: SRoweCanoe at aol.com
> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 07:23:38 EDT
> Subject: Re: Who was Daddy Warbucks?
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>
> In a message dated 9/24/2002 7:19:37 AM Eastern
> Daylight Time,
> Halsten.Aastebol at elkraft.ntnu.no writes:
>
>
> > It's possible that I'm real slow here, but does
> that mean that Little Orphan
> > Annie is the very same as in the musical "Annie"?
> >
>
> i dont know about you being slow, but yes, the
> musical "annie" was based on
> the comic strip: Little Orphan Annie (with the
> politics removed: Gray was an
> FDR-bahser)
>
> steven rowe
>

> ATTACHMENT part 3.5 message/rfc822
> From: "Frank Bubacz" <frankbubacz at hotmail.com>
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Subject: Re: Who was Daddy Warbucks?
> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:34:47 +0200
>
> >From: Halsten Aastebol
>
> >It's possible that I'm real slow here, but does
> that mean that Little
> >Orphan Annie is the very same as in the musical
> "Annie"?
>
> Yes. John Huston directed it and Albert Finney
> played Daddy Warbucks, if I'm
> not mistaken.
>
> BTW, J.D.Hackensacker III. is also missing in the
> list.
>
> Frank
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> ATTACHMENT part 3.6 message/rfc822
> From: "Fabio Blanco" <longtom at oeste.com.ar>
> To: "DCML" <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
> Subject: RE: Who was Daddy Warbucks?
> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:23:09 -0400
>
> Yes, Daddy Warbucks was a good american who made his
> fortune selling arms
> and was very proud (like Annie) of his honest work.
> Is something like the
> father of "Commander Barbara" (?) from Bernard Shaw.
> Anyway, like Scrooge
> McDuck, he would lost all his money for regain
> trough his skills in
> business.
> I always think, that Daddy Warbucks would be some
> influence in the Scrooge's
> characterization, but I'm not sure.
>
> Beyond all that, I can say that "Little Orphan
> Annie" is a great comic, I
> think is fascinant.
>
> FABIO
> from the new depression land ;)
>
>
> > At 23:32 23.09.02 -0700,
> lgiver at postoffice.pacbell.net wrote:
> > >I don't
> > >know much about Little Orphan Annie, but I
> suppose at some point
> > >she was adopted by Big Daddy Warbucks.
> > > ---Larry
> Giver.
> >
> > Warbucks.... Does that name suggest that he made
> his bucks through war
> > related activities during WW1? (selling arms,
> profiting from black market
> > or something)
> >
> > Regards
> > Halsten
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
>
>
>

> ATTACHMENT part 3.7 message/rfc822
> From: Cebarat at aol.com
> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 19:29:19 EDT
> Subject: Re: Richie and Daddy
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>
> Just for the record: Richie Rich has been around in
> one form or another since
> 1953, and once held the (US) record for the most
> comic-book titles
> concurrently devoted to a single character. You can
> find out more about him
> at
>
> http://thft.home.att.net
>
> Daddy Warbucks has been a leading character in the
> Little Orphan Annie (now
> just Annie) comic strip since the 1920s.
>
> Chris Barat
>

> ATTACHMENT part 3.8 message/rfc822
> From: "Soeren Schridde" <sschridde at web.de>
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 01:30:56 +0200
> Subject: political comics
>
> Hi all,
>
> I didn't read about this in the ML so far, so I
> wanted to tell you:
>
> In the German weekly Micky Maus the editors did some
> things relating
> to the (at that point) upcoming election of the
> German parliament.
> They published several stories related to politics
> over the last
> weeks and also did some elections for the major of
> Duckburg. An
> indirect link to the actual campaigns in Germany was
> the name of a
> small boy in one of the stories: Gerd-Edmund, mixing
> the first names
> of the two candidates Gerhard Schroeder and Edmund
> Stoiber...
>
> Candidates with the actual no. of votes:
> - Donald 3525
> - Micky 2118
> - Scrooge 925
> - Goofy 890
> - a Beagle Boy 377
> - Grandma Duck 361,
> but the votes sent in by snail mail still not
> included.
>
> In their newsletter Ehapa stated they got even a
> request from a
> famous German museum (don't remember which, but
> related to German
> history and/or politics) for the albums to be
> archived.
>
> What are your comments on this, i.e. following
> actual main topics in
> the "adult world" with stories and interactive
> things?
>
> And another thing that puzzled me lately:
> In some albums included are reader polls to be sent
> back as feedback.
> In the case of the weekly Micky Maus, not targeted
> towards
> collectors, but mainly on kids, should an relatively
> old collector
> like me (26) send that in?
>
> I fear that my judgment on pages containing special
> interest stuff /
> no comics will be different from that one of the
> average buyer of it.
> So do you see the danger, too, to take influence
> promoting my own,
> "not target-group" opinion in a way that moves the
> product "Micky
> Maus" away from the opinion's group that pays the
> most!
>
> Yours, SoerenSoeren Schridde
> ------
> Diskussionszitat zur Notwendigkeit von Datenschutz:
> >Versucht mal, einem Durchschnittsmenschen die
> >Wichtigkeit von Datenschutz zu erkl?ren! Da kommt
> >immer nur: "Ich hab doch nix zu verbergen!"
> Frag mal Deine Nachbarin, ob sie damit einverstanden
> ist,
> wenn der Brieftr?ger vor ihren Augen ihre Post
> ?ffnet,
> den Inhalt mit dem Lesestift abscannt und ihr
> erkl?rt,
> diese Unterlage jetzt zur Polizei zu bringen, damit
> sie
> dort sieben Jahre gespeichert und ausgewertet werden
> kann.
> Das ist vielleicht ein bisschen weniger abstrakt als
>
> "Datenschutz"...
> vgl.
>
http://www.heise.de/tp/deutsch/special/enfo/7968/1.html
>
> Martinistr. 52, 49078 Osnabrueck, Germany, Earth
> eMail: sschridde at web.de (2nd: sschridde at gmx.de)
> Tel./Fax: Acc.Code+ (0)541/44063343
>
>

> ATTACHMENT part 3.9 message/rfc822
> From: "Shad Z." <shadz at email.com>
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:09:17 -0700
> Subject: Disney Adventures vol 12, no 8 (October
> 2002)
>
> Matt Feazel's content page doodles ("Dizzy
> Adventures") are
> given story code JZ681
>
> 1) The Hair Pair, JZ686, 1 page.
> Story and art by Charly La Greca.
> Characters include Squatty da Hamster and Bernerd da
> Guinea
> Pig.
> Ignore what I said last time, The Hair Pair are
> definitely
> Disney characters/properties, the Disney copyright
> appears
> on their story again this month
>
> 2) Jet Pack Pets: "An Absorbing Adventure!", JZ680,
> 4 pages.
> Story by Michael Stewart. Art by Scott Koblish.
> Jet Pack Pets is not a Disney property, it is
> copyright
> Michael Stewart & Garry Black.
>
> 3) Disney's Tall Tales, JZ683, 1/3 page.
> Writing and art by Glenn McCoy.
> Characters include Mickey Mouse and Goofy.
>
> 4) Monsters, Inc.: "Pie Power!", JZ684, 3 1/3 pages.
> Story by Michael Stewart. Pencils by Steven Butler.
> Inks by
> Jim Amash.
> Characters include James "Sulley" Sullivan, Mike
> Wazowski
> and Celia.
>
> 5) Beauty and the Beast: "Sittin' Pretty!", JZ685, 1
> 2/3
> pages.
> Story by John Green. Pencils by Steven Butler. Inks
> by Jim
> Amash.
> Characters include Beast, Cogsworth, Lumiere, Chip,
> Fifi
> and Belle.
>
> 6) The Last Laugh: "Amazing new Pet Supplies!",
> JZ682, 1
> page.
> Written by John Green. Art by Jim Paillot.
>
> Shad Z.????????????????????? ^Q^
>
(ShadZ at rocketmail.com,ShadZ at email.com,Jackalope7 at go.com)
> ??????????? http://shadz.homestead.com/files/
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> ATTACHMENT part 3.10 message/rfc822
> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 21:08:29 -0700
> From: lgiver at postoffice.pacbell.net
> Subject: Scrooge paid too much for the Kachoonga
> diamond mine.
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>
> I'm finally looking at some of the many details in
> Don Rosa's
> Life & Times of Scrooge, part 11, which covers the
> years 1909 to 1930. In Scrooge's first trip after
> completion of
> his money bin, he takes his sisters up the Congo and
> Mumbo
> Jumbo rivers to buy the Kachoonga diamond mine from
> Chief Boo-boo of the Qwak Qwak tribe. He gives the
> chief a coin with "a miniature portrait of the
> chief of my
> village" (page 5, panel 5). Chief Boo-boo looks it
> over, and
> reads: "ooo---chief 'quarter-dollar'! Most
> impressive".
> Scrooge gave him an American quarter-dollar with an
> American president's portrait on it?
> Scrooge couldn't do that, because George
> Washington
> wasn't on the quarter-dollar until 1932. No
> president was
> on any American coin until 1909, unlike today, when
> presidents are on all fractional-dollar coins.
> Lincoln (Disney's
> favorite president, although others may disagree)
> was
> the first on a coin, the penny, in 1909, followed by
> Washington on the quarter in 1932, Jefferson on the
> 5-cent coin in 1938, Franklin D. Rosevelt on the
> 10-cent
> coin in 1946, and Kennedy on the half-dollar in
> 1964, and
> they're all still there.
> So in 1909 or 1910, the only coin Scrooge could
> have featuring
> "the chief of my village" would have been the
> Lincoln penny!
> Scrooge should have given chief Boo-Boo a brand-new
> shiny
> copper penny, featuring 'chief one-cent'. The 1909
> pennies from
> the San Francisco (not Sacramento) mint with the
> tiny letters
> V.D.B. under the portrait (sort of like Rosa's
> d.u.c.k.) are in big
> demand by those dreaded coin collectors, so if chief
> Boo-Boo
> had one of those in perfect condition, it would be
> worth almost
> as much as an Uncle Scrooge #1 comic book in top
> condition!
> ------Larry Giver.
>
>

> ATTACHMENT part 3.11 message/rfc822
> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 11:39:00 +0200
> Subject: Re:#1080
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> From: "Anders Christian_Siveb?k"
> <anders_sivebaek at nns.dk>
>
> Hi all
>
> (Danes, keep an eye out for the issue of Familie
> Journalen which I will
> soon tell you the issue number of. Today from 2.15
> to 3.30 a journalist
> and photographer came her to interview me about our
> donaldist society. The
> journalist had seen me in the regional newpaper
> where a 3 page article
> about the society was published some weeks ago.)
>
> Sigvald
> >
> >Have you seen this?
> >http://www.forbes.com/2002/09/13/400fictional.html
> >
> >Today Norwegian Text-TV reffered to this list from
> a so-called serious
> >American economic magazine called Forbes have
> somehow managed to put
> >together this stupid list over the world's 15
> richest fictional
> >billionaires - which should make us all laugh:
> >
> >Rank Name Net Worth
> >==========================================
> >1. Santa Claus $ ??
> >2. Richie Rich 24.7 billion
> >3. Oliver "Daddy" Warbucks 10.0 billion
> >4. Scrooge McDuck 8.2 billion
> >5. Thurston Howell III 8.0 billion
> >6. Willie Wonka 8.0 billion
> >7. Bruce Wayne 6.3 billion
> >8. Lex Luthor 4.7 billion
> >9. J.R. Ewing 2.8 billion
> >10. Auric Goldfinger 1.2 billion
> >11. C. Montgomery Burns 1.0 billion
> >12. Charles Foster Kane 1.0 billion
> >13. Cruella De Vil 875 millon
> >14. Gordon Gekko 650 millon
> >15. Jay Gatsby 600 millon
> >==========================================
>
> We talked about the same thing today in Science -
> Batmans alter ego Bruce Wayne was mentioned.
>
> >Thirdly - how the he.. can they estimate Uncle
> $crooges fortune to ONLY
> >$8.2 billion. That's completely ridiculus.
> Comnpletely - in danish stories he usually has 25
> fantaticatillions or
> something the like..
> >
> >Fourthly - where the he.. is Flintheart Glomgold
> and Rockerduck?
> They aren't known by the amateuers who made the
> list.
>
> >My conlusion: the Forbes list of fiction
> billionaires is completely
> >non-scientific and totally worthless.
> It is - it's made by someone who just wanted to be
> fun, cause comics can't
> be taken serious by some people.
> >
> >I'll say
> >#1 - Scrooge McDuck
> >#2 - Flintheart Glomgold
> >#? - John D. Rockerduck
> Hear hear
> >
> >And please forgive me for being a bit upset over
> this matter, but I hate
> >it when stupid people neglects facts about our dear
> Ducks.
> I understand you and I count the times that I've
> been annoyed of articles
> with wrong facts. I've written letters to the reader
> column about
> Timboktou not being placed in Faraway-satn as some
> insane traveller's
> columnist claimed. - I've complained to the
> Norwegian journalist who used
> egmonts press material for the blueprint-story where
> some experts made fun
> about the bin. I felt ridiculed by the letter she
> send back.
> But our job, as fans here and in out society,
> Sigvald is to inform these
> media how things are. - The article in the newpaper
> about me was serious -
> so will the next one be.
> Let us neglect these amateurs and enjoy the comics
> and be postiviely
> surprised when once in a while something is
> published which comes from an
> actual comic fan who knows how many money this rich
> old scotsman has!
>
> Hilsen/Yours
> Anders Christian Siveb?k
> Donaldist
>
>
>
> > _______________________________________________
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> http://stp.ling.uu.se/mailman/listinfo/dcml
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Whoops, sorry chums, just sent the last mail back as a
reply, owing to dratted mouse. No, not Mickey,
computer mouse with mind of its own.

And all I wanted to say was....

> Just for the record: Richie Rich has been around in
> one form or another since
> 1953, and once held the (US) record for the most
> comic-book titles
> concurrently devoted to a single character.

....that there's no justice in the world. "Melvin
Martian" hardly made it to ten issues.

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Jaakko Pirinen
Hi..
I just bought the newest 'Aku Ankka' with second part of the "The Sharpie of the Culebra Cut" here in Finland and I'm quite confused. I know that in some countries Matilda's hair colour is brown and Hortensy's yellow (and this is what Don intended, if I'm not mistaken?), and in some countries including Finland it has always been counterwise. But with the first part of the Sharpie came a poster, and there the colours were (for the first time I've seen in Finland) right with Matilda's yellow hair and Hortensy's brown (was it coloured by Don himself, or in some country where they support the "right pattern"?).
But that's not the thing that confused me most: in the actual story, Scrooge's _both_ sisters had brown hair (Hortense's hair being a bit darker). And now, in the second part of the very same story, colours are again "normal" (ie. Matilda has brown hair and Hortense yellow)!
Could anyone tell what's happening?

Sincerely,
Jaakko

PS. And by the way, greetings to you all as this is my first post to the list, although I have been reading this for some time already :)
Donald D. Markstein
I wonder if this list of fictional billionaires is related in some way to an
e-mail I got at the Toonopedia(tm) address several months ago, apparently
from a financial writer of some sort. He said he'd seen conflicting reports
about Daddy Warbucks and Richie Rich, some claiming they have millions and
some claiming they have billions, and he wanted an accurate accounting for
both.

I told him they have zillions, and added, "Jeez, the questions people ask!"

I mean, this is kind of like kids in the school yard debating over who's
stronger, Superman or The Incredible Hulk. (Only in my day, it was Superman
or Captain Marvel.)

Scrooge is the richest because he is defined as being the richest. The
others are fabulously wealthy, but none of them are defined by their writers
as being absolutely the wealthiest person in the entire world -- nor did any
of them prove it by unrolling miles of string across Africa.

But all of them are as wealthy as they need to be in any given story.

And by the way, he didn't even mention Andy Gump's Uncle Bim.

Whatever specious "knowledge" they used for their data, I have one final
word for the people who figured all this out: GET A LIFE!

Quack, Don

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anders Christian Siveb?k" <anders_sivebaek at nns.dk>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 2:39 AM
Subject: Re:#1080

> Hi all
>
> (Danes, keep an eye out for the issue of Familie Journalen which I will
> soon tell you the issue number of. Today from 2.15 to 3.30 a journalist
> and photographer came her to interview me about our donaldist society. The
> journalist had seen me in the regional newpaper where a 3 page article
> about the society was published some weeks ago.)
>
> Sigvald
> >
> >Have you seen this?
> >http://www.forbes.com/2002/09/13/400fictional.html
> >
> >Today Norwegian Text-TV reffered to this list from a so-called serious
> >American economic magazine called Forbes have somehow managed to put
> >together this stupid list over the world's 15 richest fictional
> >billionaires - which should make us all laugh:
> >
> >Rank Name Net Worth
> >==========================================
> >1. Santa Claus $ ??
> >2. Richie Rich 24.7 billion
> >3. Oliver "Daddy" Warbucks 10.0 billion
> >4. Scrooge McDuck 8.2 billion
> >5. Thurston Howell III 8.0 billion
> >6. Willie Wonka 8.0 billion
> >7. Bruce Wayne 6.3 billion
> >8. Lex Luthor 4.7 billion
> >9. J.R. Ewing 2.8 billion
> >10. Auric Goldfinger 1.2 billion
> >11. C. Montgomery Burns 1.0 billion
> >12. Charles Foster Kane 1.0 billion
> >13. Cruella De Vil 875 millon
> >14. Gordon Gekko 650 millon
> >15. Jay Gatsby 600 millon
> >==========================================
>
> We talked about the same thing today in Science -
> Batmans alter ego Bruce Wayne was mentioned.
>
> >Thirdly - how the he.. can they estimate Uncle $crooges fortune to ONLY
> >$8.2 billion. That's completely ridiculus.
> Comnpletely - in danish stories he usually has 25 fantaticatillions or
> something the like..
> >
> >Fourthly - where the he.. is Flintheart Glomgold and Rockerduck?
> They aren't known by the amateuers who made the list.
>
> >My conlusion: the Forbes list of fiction billionaires is completely
> >non-scientific and totally worthless.
> It is - it's made by someone who just wanted to be fun, cause comics can't
> be taken serious by some people.
> >
> >I'll say
> >#1 - Scrooge McDuck
> >#2 - Flintheart Glomgold
> >#? - John D. Rockerduck
> Hear hear
> >
> >And please forgive me for being a bit upset over this matter, but I hate
> >it when stupid people neglects facts about our dear Ducks.
> I understand you and I count the times that I've been annoyed of articles
> with wrong facts. I've written letters to the reader column about
> Timboktou not being placed in Faraway-satn as some insane traveller's
> columnist claimed. - I've complained to the Norwegian journalist who used
> egmonts press material for the blueprint-story where some experts made fun
> about the bin. I felt ridiculed by the letter she send back.
> But our job, as fans here and in out society, Sigvald is to inform these
> media how things are. - The article in the newpaper about me was serious -
> so will the next one be.
> Let us neglect these amateurs and enjoy the comics and be postiviely
> surprised when once in a while something is published which comes from an
> actual comic fan who knows how many money this rich old scotsman has!
>
> Hilsen/Yours
> Anders Christian Siveb?k
> Donaldist
>
>
>
>
Simon DeBeer
>As for Richie Rich, I have nothing good to say about
>him. He's some creepy weedy little spoilt rich kid,
>wearing some dumb velvet pantaloons and bow tie. By
>rights all comics featuring the little milksop should
>be shredded.

I must vigorously disagree with these prejudiced & unnecessary comments. And
in addition these views are in a minority. The Richie Rich character has
appeared in one of the most successful comics of all time. He was
illustrated by very talented artists such as Ernie Colon & Warren Kramer.
The Harvey comics tended to appeal to younger children, not the 'mature'
audience that now is interested in Scrooge McDuck. Hence they tended to be
more light weight but nonetheless of high quality artwork. Please direct
such scathing abuse to more worthy targets.

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DON M.:

> I told him they have zillions, and added, "Jeez, the questions people ask!"

Oddly enough, I remember once taking an operating systems course given
by Rob Pike, where he defined and used "zillion" as an actual number. I
think it was something like 1000000 base 16, i.e., 16777216!

> Whatever specious "knowledge" they used for their data, I have one final
> word for the people who figured all this out: GET A LIFE!

I assume that you're addressing this admonishment to the people who
compiled the infamous list in Forbes magazine, but I can't help feeling
that those people are not much different from us. Either we all need to
get a life, or those people tried to have some fun with what knowledge
they have about comics, just like we do in this list!

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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Olivier
Hi!

>>He gives the chief a coin with "a miniature portrait of the chief of my
>>> village" (page 5, panel 5). Chief Boo-boo looks it over, and
>> reads: "ooo---chief 'quarter-dollar'! Most impressive".

*chuckle*

>> Scrooge gave him an American quarter-dollar with an
>> American president's portrait on it?
>> Scrooge couldn't do that, because George Washington
>> wasn't on the quarter-dollar until 1932. No president was
>> on any American coin until 1909, unlike today [...]

Impressive detective work, and quite an interesting fact: so such portraits appeared fairly late in
the history of American currency. how about the bills? Does your source have info on that as well?

Thanks, Larry!

Olivier,
wondering how many mint (ad) pages from U$ # 1
his little cache of portraits of the late chief "1 Franc"
will be worth in 50 years...
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