Hellooooooo...I'm hereeeee!
I'm not a ghost, ok? Are you listen to me? ;-)
I like to know more about Jorge David Redo...he's brazilian?
In the Inducks there is a list of some B-coded stories he wrote(including
two Abril's Journalism Awards) and lot's of stories he draw to Egmont.
Any info about this artist?
Fernando!
Author
Topic: 200209
(158 messages)
Fernando Ventura
Jorge David Redo
Message 31 -
2002-09-04 at 18:47:14
Gerd Syllwasschy
Billionaire's Club
Message 32 -
2002-09-04 at 22:56:45
Frank:
> As far as I know the Billionaire's Club had its debut in 'The Christmas
Cha
> Cha' (1960), a story drawn but not written by Barks.
Olivier:
> In WDC&S # 269, "A Matter of Factory" (Feb '63), Album 46), Uncle Scrooge
is ashamed that Donald
> hasn't accomplished anything, whereas his fellow members of the
"Billionaires Club" (p 1 pnael 1)
> keep bragging about their own nephews; he thus appoints Donald manager of
a run-down motel.
The only other reference I can think of is the billionaires picnic in DD 60
"The Titanic Ants". No explicit mention of a club there, if I'm not
mistaken, but they seem to be an association with regular meetings.
Other elitist circles include the Archeologists' Club from US 44 "Crown of
the Mayas" and the Top Brass Club from WDC 264 "Master Wrecker".
Gerd
> As far as I know the Billionaire's Club had its debut in 'The Christmas
Cha
> Cha' (1960), a story drawn but not written by Barks.
Olivier:
> In WDC&S # 269, "A Matter of Factory" (Feb '63), Album 46), Uncle Scrooge
is ashamed that Donald
> hasn't accomplished anything, whereas his fellow members of the
"Billionaires Club" (p 1 pnael 1)
> keep bragging about their own nephews; he thus appoints Donald manager of
a run-down motel.
The only other reference I can think of is the billionaires picnic in DD 60
"The Titanic Ants". No explicit mention of a club there, if I'm not
mistaken, but they seem to be an association with regular meetings.
Other elitist circles include the Archeologists' Club from US 44 "Crown of
the Mayas" and the Top Brass Club from WDC 264 "Master Wrecker".
Gerd
Søren Krarup Olesen
Indian Ducks
Message 33 -
2002-09-04 at 23:19:12
MICHAEL (or Helen is it?):
> "/A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in
> human history -- with the possible exceptions of handguns and
> tequila/."
Seconded. I also find HTML messages (especially those with neon-cyan
coloured backgrounds) fairly close to a mistake as well. In this case
too, the computer is not to be blamed. As HAL said: "Those things have
cropped up before, but they were always due to...human errors" :-)
Anyways, please don't send HTML message. They come out rather awful in
the digests.
Best,
S?ren
> "/A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in
> human history -- with the possible exceptions of handguns and
> tequila/."
Seconded. I also find HTML messages (especially those with neon-cyan
coloured backgrounds) fairly close to a mistake as well. In this case
too, the computer is not to be blamed. As HAL said: "Those things have
cropped up before, but they were always due to...human errors" :-)
Anyways, please don't send HTML message. They come out rather awful in
the digests.
Best,
S?ren
Arthur Faria Jr.
Ventura: Jorge David Redo
Message 34 -
2002-09-05 at 19:57:12
Fernando Ventura wrote:
> I like to know more about Jorge David Redo...he's brazilian?
> In the Inducks there is a list of some B-coded stories he wrote(including
> two Abril's Journalism Awards) and lot's of stories he draw to Egmont.
> Any info about this artist?
There is an error in Inducks -- actually, the correct writer
credits for those B-coded stories should be to the Brazilian
writer Julio de Andrade Filho, not Jorge David Redo!
It was just a typo of mine when writing Andrade's
abbreviation.
I'm very sorry for that mistake -- it'll be corrected
in the next Brazilian Index update (soon).
-- Arthur.
> I like to know more about Jorge David Redo...he's brazilian?
> In the Inducks there is a list of some B-coded stories he wrote(including
> two Abril's Journalism Awards) and lot's of stories he draw to Egmont.
> Any info about this artist?
There is an error in Inducks -- actually, the correct writer
credits for those B-coded stories should be to the Brazilian
writer Julio de Andrade Filho, not Jorge David Redo!
It was just a typo of mine when writing Andrade's
abbreviation.
I'm very sorry for that mistake -- it'll be corrected
in the next Brazilian Index update (soon).
-- Arthur.
Kriton Kyrimis
Colchis in Greek Myth
Message 35 -
2002-09-06 at 11:03:24
DAVE:
> Frankly, I'd love to see the Iliad populated with Disney characters.
Well, there is an Italian story, which in Greece was published titled
"The Trojan War". It was a kind of parody of the Trojan war, taking place
in modern times. It was about the Beagle Boys stealing from Scrooge
a magical checkboard that could double anything you put on the first
square, then double it, then double, it, etc, until you reached the
last square. The ducks came after them, with Donald thinking that the
Beagles had actually kidnapped Daisy. (This is based on some Italian
word-play that sounded quite stretched when translated into Greek,
and would probably make no sense when translated into English.)
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Paranoia is just another word for a heightened appreciation of how badly the
universe wants to get you."
-----
> Frankly, I'd love to see the Iliad populated with Disney characters.
Well, there is an Italian story, which in Greece was published titled
"The Trojan War". It was a kind of parody of the Trojan war, taking place
in modern times. It was about the Beagle Boys stealing from Scrooge
a magical checkboard that could double anything you put on the first
square, then double it, then double, it, etc, until you reached the
last square. The ducks came after them, with Donald thinking that the
Beagles had actually kidnapped Daisy. (This is based on some Italian
word-play that sounded quite stretched when translated into Greek,
and would probably make no sense when translated into English.)
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Paranoia is just another word for a heightened appreciation of how badly the
universe wants to get you."
-----
Eta Beta
KRITON - dame
Message 36 -
2002-09-06 at 14:48:34
Hi Kriton!
>It was about the Beagle Boys stealing from Scrooge
>a magical checkboard
[...]
>The ducks came after them, with Donald thinking that the
>Beagles had actually kidnapped Daisy. (This is based on some Italian
>word-play that sounded quite stretched when translated into Greek,
>and would probably make no sense when translated into English.)
Well, with a bit of stretching, it *could*, possibly better
than in Greek...
The word in question is "dama", from the latin "domina", meaning
in italian both the checkers game and "dame", or lady, actually
its primary meaning, although a bit out of date, perhaps... :-)
Donald is indeed led to believe the Beagles kidnapped his dame.
However, I think the english word "dame" is, or was, also used
to designate the queen piece in the chess game, and since the
board used is the same, they might have used that in an
hypotetical english translation, although it would have taken
quite a bit of turning phrases around, I guess.
Cheers
Eta Beta
>It was about the Beagle Boys stealing from Scrooge
>a magical checkboard
[...]
>The ducks came after them, with Donald thinking that the
>Beagles had actually kidnapped Daisy. (This is based on some Italian
>word-play that sounded quite stretched when translated into Greek,
>and would probably make no sense when translated into English.)
Well, with a bit of stretching, it *could*, possibly better
than in Greek...
The word in question is "dama", from the latin "domina", meaning
in italian both the checkers game and "dame", or lady, actually
its primary meaning, although a bit out of date, perhaps... :-)
Donald is indeed led to believe the Beagles kidnapped his dame.
However, I think the english word "dame" is, or was, also used
to designate the queen piece in the chess game, and since the
board used is the same, they might have used that in an
hypotetical english translation, although it would have taken
quite a bit of turning phrases around, I guess.
Cheers
Eta Beta
Crocker, John
Colchis in Greek Myth
Message 37 -
2002-09-06 at 18:02:25
<< It was about the Beagle Boys stealing from Scrooge
a magical checkboard that could double anything you put on the first
square, then double it, then double, it, etc, until you reached the
last square.
When was this published? It sounds like it could have been based on an Uncle Scrooge gag in which Huey, Dewey, and Louie try to trick Scrooge into putting a penny on the first square and then doubling it for every other square and that would be their allowance or something like that.
Obviously, by using a little math, before getting halfway through the board, one million dollars could be made with the final figure being 1.8x10^17 dollars.
Can anyone confirm my memory of this gag?
John Crocker.
a magical checkboard that could double anything you put on the first
square, then double it, then double, it, etc, until you reached the
last square.
When was this published? It sounds like it could have been based on an Uncle Scrooge gag in which Huey, Dewey, and Louie try to trick Scrooge into putting a penny on the first square and then doubling it for every other square and that would be their allowance or something like that.
Obviously, by using a little math, before getting halfway through the board, one million dollars could be made with the final figure being 1.8x10^17 dollars.
Can anyone confirm my memory of this gag?
John Crocker.
H.W.Fluks
Checker board
Message 38 -
2002-09-06 at 19:00:24
John:
> an Uncle Scrooge gag in which Huey, Dewey, and Louie
> try to trick Scrooge into putting a penny on the first square
> and then doubling it for every other square and that would be
> their allowance or something like that.
> Can anyone confirm my memory of this gag?
I think that's the ending gag of "Mathmagic Land" (see Gladstone's Donald
Duck Adventures #26), or a similar adaptation of an "educational" cartoon.
So it's totally different from the Italian story.
--Harry.
> an Uncle Scrooge gag in which Huey, Dewey, and Louie
> try to trick Scrooge into putting a penny on the first square
> and then doubling it for every other square and that would be
> their allowance or something like that.
> Can anyone confirm my memory of this gag?
I think that's the ending gag of "Mathmagic Land" (see Gladstone's Donald
Duck Adventures #26), or a similar adaptation of an "educational" cartoon.
So it's totally different from the Italian story.
--Harry.
Kriton Kyrimis
KRITON - dame
Message 39 -
2002-09-06 at 19:05:57
> The word in question is "dama", from the latin "domina", meaning
> in italian both the checkers game and "dame", or lady, actually
> its primary meaning, although a bit out of date, perhaps... :-)
That's the same word they used in Greek, except that "dama" in Greek
means something like a female dance partner, which is why I said that
the word-play is quite stretched in Greek.
> However, I think the english word "dame" is, or was, also used
> to designate the queen piece in the chess game, and since the
> board used is the same, they might have used that in an
> hypotetical english translation, although it would have taken
> quite a bit of turning phrases around, I guess.
I don't know if dame has this meaning in English, but since it wasn't
the queen piece that the Beagle Boys had stolen, it would take a *lot*
of turning phrases around!
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"A minute without you is like sixty standardized seconds."
-----
> in italian both the checkers game and "dame", or lady, actually
> its primary meaning, although a bit out of date, perhaps... :-)
That's the same word they used in Greek, except that "dama" in Greek
means something like a female dance partner, which is why I said that
the word-play is quite stretched in Greek.
> However, I think the english word "dame" is, or was, also used
> to designate the queen piece in the chess game, and since the
> board used is the same, they might have used that in an
> hypotetical english translation, although it would have taken
> quite a bit of turning phrases around, I guess.
I don't know if dame has this meaning in English, but since it wasn't
the queen piece that the Beagle Boys had stolen, it would take a *lot*
of turning phrases around!
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"A minute without you is like sixty standardized seconds."
-----
Kriton Kyrimis
Colchis in Greek Myth
Message 40 -
2002-09-06 at 19:16:34
> When was this published? It sounds like it could have been based on an
> Uncle Scrooge gag in which Huey, Dewey, and Louie try to trick Scrooge into
> putting a penny on the first square and then doubling it for every other
> square
Perhaps Eta Beta can answer this.
Note that the Uncle Scrooge gag is based on the legend about the
reward that the inventor of chess is supposed to have asked from the
king/emperor/whatever for whom he invented the game: one grain of wheat
for the first square, two for the second, etc. The emperor agreed at
first, only to realize that all the wheat in the world would not be
enough to pay the inventor. The emperor did find a simple way out of
the deal, however: he had the inventor beheaded! The Trojan war story
is probably based on that idea, and not the Barks gag. In fact, at
one point in the story, the besieged beagles, who have run out of food,
discover a grain of rice, and put the chessboard in operation. There is
a scene where rice is shown pouring out of the Beagles' hut.
In the end of the story we get another lesson in combinatorics, where
the chessboard is broken into its constituent squares, and Scrooge makes
Donald and Gladstone reassemble it in the original order, trying all
possible combinations, as the board will not function if it is assembled
in any other way!
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"That's the trouble with genetically engineered foods; you turn your back
for five minutes, and they've taken over the world."
-----
> Uncle Scrooge gag in which Huey, Dewey, and Louie try to trick Scrooge into
> putting a penny on the first square and then doubling it for every other
> square
Perhaps Eta Beta can answer this.
Note that the Uncle Scrooge gag is based on the legend about the
reward that the inventor of chess is supposed to have asked from the
king/emperor/whatever for whom he invented the game: one grain of wheat
for the first square, two for the second, etc. The emperor agreed at
first, only to realize that all the wheat in the world would not be
enough to pay the inventor. The emperor did find a simple way out of
the deal, however: he had the inventor beheaded! The Trojan war story
is probably based on that idea, and not the Barks gag. In fact, at
one point in the story, the besieged beagles, who have run out of food,
discover a grain of rice, and put the chessboard in operation. There is
a scene where rice is shown pouring out of the Beagles' hut.
In the end of the story we get another lesson in combinatorics, where
the chessboard is broken into its constituent squares, and Scrooge makes
Donald and Gladstone reassemble it in the original order, trying all
possible combinations, as the board will not function if it is assembled
in any other way!
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"That's the trouble with genetically engineered foods; you turn your back
for five minutes, and they've taken over the world."
-----
Paolo Castagno
Colchis in Greek Myth
Message 41 -
2002-09-06 at 19:22:33
> Note that the Uncle Scrooge gag is based on the legend about the
> reward that the inventor of chess is supposed to have asked from the
> king/emperor/whatever for whom he invented the game: one grain of whea
t
> for the first square, two for the second, etc. The emperor agreed at
> first, only to realize that all the wheat in the world would not be
> enough to pay the inventor.
And this very gag was described in Dalmasso/Scala 's story I TL 1068-A
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/I+TL+1068-A/
Ciao,
- Paolo
http://digilander.iol.it/inducks mailto:p.castagno at libero.it
> reward that the inventor of chess is supposed to have asked from the
> king/emperor/whatever for whom he invented the game: one grain of whea
t
> for the first square, two for the second, etc. The emperor agreed at
> first, only to realize that all the wheat in the world would not be
> enough to pay the inventor.
And this very gag was described in Dalmasso/Scala 's story I TL 1068-A
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/I+TL+1068-A/
Ciao,
- Paolo
http://digilander.iol.it/inducks mailto:p.castagno at libero.it
Frank Bubacz
Cheese
Message 42 -
2002-09-06 at 19:29:16
Hi,
This chessboard story everybody's talking about, is it the Bottaro-drawn one
from the late fifties?
Frank
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This chessboard story everybody's talking about, is it the Bottaro-drawn one
from the late fifties?
Frank
_________________________________________________________________
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Cheese
Message 43 -
2002-09-06 at 20:08:18
>This chessboard story everybody's talking about, is it the Bottaro-drawn
>one from the late fifties?
Oh well. It seems I need new glasses. Since you are talking about draughts,
not chess, it's probably not the story I had in mind. Sorry for the
interruption.
Frank
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>one from the late fifties?
Oh well. It seems I need new glasses. Since you are talking about draughts,
not chess, it's probably not the story I had in mind. Sorry for the
interruption.
Frank
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Ari Seppi
Cheese
Message 44 -
2002-09-06 at 20:23:26
Frank:
>Oh well. It seems I need new glasses. Since you are talking about
>draughts, not chess, it's probably not the story I had in mind. Sorry for
>the interruption.
Are you sure it isn't?
There story discussed here suits your description ("Bottaro-drawn one from
the late fifties"):
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/IS+TL++202-A
--
Ari Seppi (ari.seppi at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
Winnie the Pooh is my great guru.
>Oh well. It seems I need new glasses. Since you are talking about
>draughts, not chess, it's probably not the story I had in mind. Sorry for
>the interruption.
Are you sure it isn't?
There story discussed here suits your description ("Bottaro-drawn one from
the late fifties"):
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/IS+TL++202-A
--
Ari Seppi (ari.seppi at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
Winnie the Pooh is my great guru.
Eta Beta
Checkers
Message 45 -
2002-09-07 at 16:30:21
JOHN, HARRY, KRITON 'n' all
>>>It was about the Beagle Boys stealing from Scrooge
>>>a magical checkboard
>
>>When was this published? It sounds like it could have been based on an
>>Uncle Scrooge gag in which Huey, Dewey, and Louie try to trick Scrooge
>I think that's the ending gag of "Mathmagic Land"
So it is, only trick of the memory is that DONALD is playing the stunt,
for once, while the kids think he's gone insane, selling his house for
what seems a few pennies.
And yes, the italian story is indeed "Paperiade", from Topolino #202-204.
Both stories are from 1959, with the italian one slightly earlier, from
january, but I believe Kriton is right in thinking the well-known legend
about the inventor was the common inspiration for both these stories, as
well as the more recent one quoted by Paolo.
Actually, the legend is also quoted by Donald himself in the
Mathmagicland story, while making sure Scrooge never heard of it
before offering the deal to him. (The beheading was omitted, though :-)
Cheers
Eta Beta
---------------------------------------------
"For Pythagoreans you're all reet,
just so's you give your stuff a beat"
Donald with his improvised band in Mathmagicland :-)
>>>It was about the Beagle Boys stealing from Scrooge
>>>a magical checkboard
>
>>When was this published? It sounds like it could have been based on an
>>Uncle Scrooge gag in which Huey, Dewey, and Louie try to trick Scrooge
>I think that's the ending gag of "Mathmagic Land"
So it is, only trick of the memory is that DONALD is playing the stunt,
for once, while the kids think he's gone insane, selling his house for
what seems a few pennies.
And yes, the italian story is indeed "Paperiade", from Topolino #202-204.
Both stories are from 1959, with the italian one slightly earlier, from
january, but I believe Kriton is right in thinking the well-known legend
about the inventor was the common inspiration for both these stories, as
well as the more recent one quoted by Paolo.
Actually, the legend is also quoted by Donald himself in the
Mathmagicland story, while making sure Scrooge never heard of it
before offering the deal to him. (The beheading was omitted, though :-)
Cheers
Eta Beta
---------------------------------------------
"For Pythagoreans you're all reet,
just so's you give your stuff a beat"
Donald with his improvised band in Mathmagicland :-)