I just re-read Rosa's Life & Times of Scrooge, part 11.
I hadn't examined the many details of this story before
when Gladstone first printed it, since there were lots
of new comics to read then. Don locates Foola Zoola's
original village somewhere up the Congo river in
central Africa, very near the Kachoonga diamond mine
and the Quak Quak tribe in Barks' "Bongo on the
Congo" story (US 33). But did Barks intend central
Africa as the location of Foola Zoola in his
"Voodoo Hoodoo" story? The clues were confusing,
because I recalled when Huey, Dewey, and Louie buy
a spear from one of Foola Zoola's guards for $10,000,
he runs off "to Capetown, boy, --Shopping." Capetown
is in South Africa. Also, the very name, Foola Zoola,
suggests he is a Zulu, who are in South Africa.
However, they are near Scrooge's rubber plantation,
and rubber plantations are located in rainy tropical regions, not
South Africa. Also, if Capetown is nearby, there would
be no need to use the airport at Whambo Jambo (page 16).
So should we presume Foola Zoola's guard is planning
a very long trip to go shopping in Capetown?
Or if Foola Zoola's village in Voodoo Hoodoo is
really in South Africa, how far is it from Glomgold's
money bin in the Limpopo valley of South Africa?
Author
Topic: 200209
(158 messages)
Lgiver
Location of Foola Zoola's village
Message 91 -
2002-09-22 at 12:35:34
Sigvald
New mail adress
Message 92 -
2002-09-22 at 19:38:37
Hi all!
I have just done a little change so that DCML-mail from no on will reach me at:
sigvald at duckburg.dk
But privately you reach me at both this new adress and the old one:
sigvald4 at yahoo.no
Sigvald :-)
I have just done a little change so that DCML-mail from no on will reach me at:
sigvald at duckburg.dk
But privately you reach me at both this new adress and the old one:
sigvald4 at yahoo.no
Sigvald :-)
Lgiver
Correction: Not Fort Bragg
Message 93 -
2002-09-22 at 22:38:15
My prior post exploring the possibilities that the Russians
were involved in Duckburg early history mentioned the
Russian settlement fort at Fort Bragg, California It was in
fact Fort Ross that I had in mind that I remembered
visiting. It's near the Russian River, north of San
Francisco. Established in 1818, the very year that
Don Rosa had Fort Duckburg being attacked by "a
passel of Spainyerd soljers" (page 5, panels 5 & 6 of
His Majesty, McDuck). In fact, at that time the Spanish
had insufficient resources in northern California to keep
the Russians out, and maintained the peace via some
arranged marriage. The Russians gave up on their
settlement around 1840, and sold the fort to Sutter, who
started the California gold rush 8 years later.
Fort Bragg was an American fort established in
1857.
The Russians were still active with trading activities
and fur-trapping in Oregon and Washington until
they sold Alaska, so for Duckburg purposes, you can
imagine a damaged Russian ship carried south by the
current, and coming aground near Duckburg, which was
very small at the time 1852-1860. Remember the old movie,
"The Russians are Coming!", when a Russian submarine ran
aground on the coast of Maine, I think it was? By analogy,
the locals at Duckburg could be frightened and believed
themselves under attack, and Stonewall Duck drove them
off.
For earlier history, Barks had a Spanish galleon bury
treasure in Duckburg's bay, as they were worried they
would be captured by Drake. That must have been in
1579, when Drake sailed up the Tulebug river. Huey,
Dewey, and Louie financed a retired sailor to dig up that
treasure in WDC&S 155, "Some Heir over the Rainbow"
were involved in Duckburg early history mentioned the
Russian settlement fort at Fort Bragg, California It was in
fact Fort Ross that I had in mind that I remembered
visiting. It's near the Russian River, north of San
Francisco. Established in 1818, the very year that
Don Rosa had Fort Duckburg being attacked by "a
passel of Spainyerd soljers" (page 5, panels 5 & 6 of
His Majesty, McDuck). In fact, at that time the Spanish
had insufficient resources in northern California to keep
the Russians out, and maintained the peace via some
arranged marriage. The Russians gave up on their
settlement around 1840, and sold the fort to Sutter, who
started the California gold rush 8 years later.
Fort Bragg was an American fort established in
1857.
The Russians were still active with trading activities
and fur-trapping in Oregon and Washington until
they sold Alaska, so for Duckburg purposes, you can
imagine a damaged Russian ship carried south by the
current, and coming aground near Duckburg, which was
very small at the time 1852-1860. Remember the old movie,
"The Russians are Coming!", when a Russian submarine ran
aground on the coast of Maine, I think it was? By analogy,
the locals at Duckburg could be frightened and believed
themselves under attack, and Stonewall Duck drove them
off.
For earlier history, Barks had a Spanish galleon bury
treasure in Duckburg's bay, as they were worried they
would be captured by Drake. That must have been in
1579, when Drake sailed up the Tulebug river. Huey,
Dewey, and Louie financed a retired sailor to dig up that
treasure in WDC&S 155, "Some Heir over the Rainbow"
Stefan Persson
Swedish election
Message 94 -
2002-09-23 at 01:23:48
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Schartau" <michael.schartau at swipnet.se>
To: "DCML" <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 9:00 PM
Subject: Swedish election
>The wotes from the swedish election is counted.
>"Kalle Anka[-]partiet" (Donald Duck Party; not registred) got ten, I repeat
ten wotes this time.
>This was the last time wotes on non registred partys will be counted.
Where did you find that information?
Stefan
From: "Michael Schartau" <michael.schartau at swipnet.se>
To: "DCML" <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 9:00 PM
Subject: Swedish election
>The wotes from the swedish election is counted.
>"Kalle Anka[-]partiet" (Donald Duck Party; not registred) got ten, I repeat
ten wotes this time.
>This was the last time wotes on non registred partys will be counted.
Where did you find that information?
Stefan
Michael Schartau
Swedish election
Message 95 -
2002-09-23 at 11:54:23
If You are refering to the number of woters it was in a newspaper. Metro or SvD, saturday, probably friday.
It is confirmed by the official website http://www.val.se/slutresultat/00R/00.html.
/Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: Stefan Persson
To: Michael Schartau ; DCML
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: Swedish election
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Schartau" <michael.schartau at swipnet.se>
To: "DCML" <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 9:00 PM
Subject: Swedish election
>The wotes from the swedish election is counted.
>"Kalle Anka[-]partiet" (Donald Duck Party; not registred) got ten, I repeat
ten wotes this time.
>This was the last time wotes on non registred partys will be counted.
Where did you find that information?
Stefan
It is confirmed by the official website http://www.val.se/slutresultat/00R/00.html.
/Michael
----- Original Message -----
From: Stefan Persson
To: Michael Schartau ; DCML
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 12:23 AM
Subject: Re: Swedish election
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Schartau" <michael.schartau at swipnet.se>
To: "DCML" <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 9:00 PM
Subject: Swedish election
>The wotes from the swedish election is counted.
>"Kalle Anka[-]partiet" (Donald Duck Party; not registred) got ten, I repeat
ten wotes this time.
>This was the last time wotes on non registred partys will be counted.
Where did you find that information?
Stefan
Sigvald
Stupid list from Forbes
Message 96 -
2002-09-23 at 15:45:29
Hi all!
Have you seen this?
http://www.forbes.com/2002/09/13/400fictional.html
A so-called serious American economiac magazine called Forbes have somehow managed to put together this stupid list over the world's 15 richest fictional billionaires - which should make us all laugh:
Rank Name Net Worth
=======================
1. Santa Claus $ ?
2. Richie Rich 24.7 billion
3. Oliver "Daddy" Warbucks 10 billion
4. Scrooge McDuck 8.2 billion
5. Thurston Howell III 8 billion
6. Willie Wonka 8 billion
7. Bruce Wayne 6.3 billion
8. Lex Luthor 4.7 billion
9. J.R. Ewing 2.8 billion
10. Auric Goldfinger 1.2 billion
11. C. Montgomery Burns 1 billion
12. Charles Foster Kane 1 billion
13. Cruella De Vil 875 millon
14. Gordon Gekko 650 millon
15. Jay Gatsby 600 millon
Have you seen this?
http://www.forbes.com/2002/09/13/400fictional.html
A so-called serious American economiac magazine called Forbes have somehow managed to put together this stupid list over the world's 15 richest fictional billionaires - which should make us all laugh:
Rank Name Net Worth
=======================
1. Santa Claus $ ?
2. Richie Rich 24.7 billion
3. Oliver "Daddy" Warbucks 10 billion
4. Scrooge McDuck 8.2 billion
5. Thurston Howell III 8 billion
6. Willie Wonka 8 billion
7. Bruce Wayne 6.3 billion
8. Lex Luthor 4.7 billion
9. J.R. Ewing 2.8 billion
10. Auric Goldfinger 1.2 billion
11. C. Montgomery Burns 1 billion
12. Charles Foster Kane 1 billion
13. Cruella De Vil 875 millon
14. Gordon Gekko 650 millon
15. Jay Gatsby 600 millon
Sigvald
Stupid list from Forbes
Message 97 -
2002-09-23 at 15:59:37
Hi all!
Have you seen this?
http://www.forbes.com/2002/09/13/400fictional.html
Today Norwegian Text-TV reffered to this list from a so-called serious American economic magazine called Forbes have somehow managed to put together this stupid list over the world's 15 richest fictional billionaires - which should make us all laugh:
Rank Name Net Worth
==========================================
1. Santa Claus $ ?
2. Richie Rich 24.7 billion
3. Oliver "Daddy" Warbucks 10.0 billion
4. Scrooge McDuck 8.2 billion
5. Thurston Howell III 8.0 billion
6. Willie Wonka 8.0 billion
7. Bruce Wayne 6.3 billion
8. Lex Luthor 4.7 billion
9. J.R. Ewing 2.8 billion
10. Auric Goldfinger 1.2 billion
11. C. Montgomery Burns 1.0 billion
12. Charles Foster Kane 1.0 billion
13. Cruella De Vil 875 millon
14. Gordon Gekko 650 millon
15. Jay Gatsby 600 millon
==========================================
First - when did Santa Claus get particularly rich? I have never learened that from Norwegiuan traditions nor from my Disney comics. So including good old santa on this list is no less than bu..-sh...
Secondly - who the he.. is the two nobodys called "Richie Rich" and "Oliver 'Daddy' Warbucks". Are they some obscure modern US-characters created for today's kids?
Thirdly - how the he.. can they estimate Uncle $crooges fortune to ONLY $8.2 billion. That's completely ridiculus.
Fourthly - where the he.. is Flintheart Glomgold and Rockerduck?
My conlusion: the Forbes list of fiction billionaires is completely non-scientific and totally worthless.
I'll say
#1 - Scrooge McDuck
#2 - Flintheart Glomgold
#? - John D. Rockerduck
And please forgive me for being a bit upset over this matter, but I hate it when stupid people neglects facts about our dear Ducks.
Sigvald :-)
Have you seen this?
http://www.forbes.com/2002/09/13/400fictional.html
Today Norwegian Text-TV reffered to this list from a so-called serious American economic magazine called Forbes have somehow managed to put together this stupid list over the world's 15 richest fictional billionaires - which should make us all laugh:
Rank Name Net Worth
==========================================
1. Santa Claus $ ?
2. Richie Rich 24.7 billion
3. Oliver "Daddy" Warbucks 10.0 billion
4. Scrooge McDuck 8.2 billion
5. Thurston Howell III 8.0 billion
6. Willie Wonka 8.0 billion
7. Bruce Wayne 6.3 billion
8. Lex Luthor 4.7 billion
9. J.R. Ewing 2.8 billion
10. Auric Goldfinger 1.2 billion
11. C. Montgomery Burns 1.0 billion
12. Charles Foster Kane 1.0 billion
13. Cruella De Vil 875 millon
14. Gordon Gekko 650 millon
15. Jay Gatsby 600 millon
==========================================
First - when did Santa Claus get particularly rich? I have never learened that from Norwegiuan traditions nor from my Disney comics. So including good old santa on this list is no less than bu..-sh...
Secondly - who the he.. is the two nobodys called "Richie Rich" and "Oliver 'Daddy' Warbucks". Are they some obscure modern US-characters created for today's kids?
Thirdly - how the he.. can they estimate Uncle $crooges fortune to ONLY $8.2 billion. That's completely ridiculus.
Fourthly - where the he.. is Flintheart Glomgold and Rockerduck?
My conlusion: the Forbes list of fiction billionaires is completely non-scientific and totally worthless.
I'll say
#1 - Scrooge McDuck
#2 - Flintheart Glomgold
#? - John D. Rockerduck
And please forgive me for being a bit upset over this matter, but I hate it when stupid people neglects facts about our dear Ducks.
Sigvald :-)
Kriton Kyrimis
Stupid list from Forbes
Message 98 -
2002-09-23 at 16:08:14
SIGVALD:
> 4. Scrooge McDuck 8.2 billion
I wonder where they got that 8.2 billion figure. I always thought
that uncle Scrooge's fortune was in the area of 9 fantasticatillion,
4 billion-jillion, centrifugalillion dollars and 16 cents. Besides,
according to that list, uncle Scrooge is not #4, but #1, even if only
by a few inches of saved string!
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Chocolate wasn't introduced to England until the mid-seventeenth century,
you know, and I have no intention of going without my daily ration!
-----
> 4. Scrooge McDuck 8.2 billion
I wonder where they got that 8.2 billion figure. I always thought
that uncle Scrooge's fortune was in the area of 9 fantasticatillion,
4 billion-jillion, centrifugalillion dollars and 16 cents. Besides,
according to that list, uncle Scrooge is not #4, but #1, even if only
by a few inches of saved string!
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"Chocolate wasn't introduced to England until the mid-seventeenth century,
you know, and I have no intention of going without my daily ration!
-----
Timo Ronkainen
Stupid list from Forbes
Message 99 -
2002-09-23 at 16:15:03
>American economic magazine called Forbes have somehow managed to put
>together this stupid list
>First - when did Santa Claus get particularly rich?
I thouhgt there were no money involved with Santa's business...
>Secondly - who the he.. is the two nobodys called "Richie Rich" and "Oliver
>'Daddy' Warbucks".
They are both old American comics characters. Richie Rich is "the richest
kid in the world", and Daddy Warbucks was Little Orphan Annie's guardian.
Richie's dad must be welthier than Rich by the way.
>Thirdly - how the he.. can they estimate Uncle $crooges fortune to ONLY
>$8.2 billion.
I wonder how that person, whoever he/she might be, made the calculations?
And why... Huh...??
BTW, I was nearly to say that Charles Foster Kane is not fictional
character... :-)
Timo
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>together this stupid list
>First - when did Santa Claus get particularly rich?
I thouhgt there were no money involved with Santa's business...
>Secondly - who the he.. is the two nobodys called "Richie Rich" and "Oliver
>'Daddy' Warbucks".
They are both old American comics characters. Richie Rich is "the richest
kid in the world", and Daddy Warbucks was Little Orphan Annie's guardian.
Richie's dad must be welthier than Rich by the way.
>Thirdly - how the he.. can they estimate Uncle $crooges fortune to ONLY
>$8.2 billion.
I wonder how that person, whoever he/she might be, made the calculations?
And why... Huh...??
BTW, I was nearly to say that Charles Foster Kane is not fictional
character... :-)
Timo
^^''*''^^
Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
YO-kylä 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
timoro at hotmail.com
timoro at sunpoint.net
¨¨ Personal:
http://www.geocities.com/timoro2/
¨¨ Ankkalinnan Pamaus:
http://www.perunamaa.net/ankistit/
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Go sit on cowslip - far from me!"
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Kriton Kyrimis
Stupid list from Forbes
Message 100 -
2002-09-23 at 16:27:40
> First - when did Santa Claus get particularly rich?
Well, he's been making all those toys and giving them for free all these
years, so he *must* be rich.
Somehow, reducing such things to a matter of available cash, even if
infinite, sounds like sacrilege to me.
> Secondly - who the he.. is the two nobodys called "Richie Rich" and "Oliver
> 'Daddy' Warbucks". Are they some obscure modern US-characters created for
> today's kids?
Richie Rich is a comic book hero who is supposed to be an extremely
rich kid, and according to Don Markstein's toonopedia, he is anything
but obscure. (Even I had heard of him, having read a story or two.) I've
no idea who Oliver 'Daddy' Warbucks" is.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"I'm what monsters have nightmares about!"
-----
Well, he's been making all those toys and giving them for free all these
years, so he *must* be rich.
Somehow, reducing such things to a matter of available cash, even if
infinite, sounds like sacrilege to me.
> Secondly - who the he.. is the two nobodys called "Richie Rich" and "Oliver
> 'Daddy' Warbucks". Are they some obscure modern US-characters created for
> today's kids?
Richie Rich is a comic book hero who is supposed to be an extremely
rich kid, and according to Don Markstein's toonopedia, he is anything
but obscure. (Even I had heard of him, having read a story or two.) I've
no idea who Oliver 'Daddy' Warbucks" is.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"I'm what monsters have nightmares about!"
-----
Lgiver
Who was Daddy Warbucks?
Message 101 -
2002-09-24 at 09:32:27
Kriton:
Daddy Warbucks is certainly not a new character. He's from
the old (1924-1979) newspaper comic strip "Little Orphan Annie".
Forbes shows a picture of real people, as there was fairly recently
a musical movie "Annie" based on that comic strip. Daddy Warbucks
is earlier than the first appearance (1947) of Scrooge. I don't
know much about Little Orphan Annie, but I suppose at some point
she was adopted by Big Daddy Warbucks.
---Larry Giver.
Daddy Warbucks is certainly not a new character. He's from
the old (1924-1979) newspaper comic strip "Little Orphan Annie".
Forbes shows a picture of real people, as there was fairly recently
a musical movie "Annie" based on that comic strip. Daddy Warbucks
is earlier than the first appearance (1947) of Scrooge. I don't
know much about Little Orphan Annie, but I suppose at some point
she was adopted by Big Daddy Warbucks.
---Larry Giver.
Halsten Aastebol
Who was Daddy Warbucks?
Message 102 -
2002-09-24 at 11:40:52
At 23:32 23.09.02 -0700, lgiver at postoffice.pacbell.net wrote:
>I don't
>know much about Little Orphan Annie, but I suppose at some point
>she was adopted by Big Daddy Warbucks.
> ---Larry Giver.
Warbucks.... Does that name suggest that he made his bucks through war
related activities during WW1? (selling arms, profiting from black market
or something)
Regards
Halsten
>I don't
>know much about Little Orphan Annie, but I suppose at some point
>she was adopted by Big Daddy Warbucks.
> ---Larry Giver.
Warbucks.... Does that name suggest that he made his bucks through war
related activities during WW1? (selling arms, profiting from black market
or something)
Regards
Halsten
SRoweCanoe
Who was Daddy Warbucks?
Message 103 -
2002-09-24 at 13:14:27
In a message dated 9/24/2002 2:45:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
lgiver at postoffice.pacbell.net writes:
> Daddy Warbucks is certainly not a new character. He's from
> the old (1924-1979) newspaper comic strip "Little Orphan Annie".
>
that strip is still running today, under the title"Annie"
right, the Warbucks took on Annie real early in the strip (1925?)
sr
lgiver at postoffice.pacbell.net writes:
> Daddy Warbucks is certainly not a new character. He's from
> the old (1924-1979) newspaper comic strip "Little Orphan Annie".
>
that strip is still running today, under the title"Annie"
right, the Warbucks took on Annie real early in the strip (1925?)
sr
Vic Pratt
Richie Rich and Warbucks
Message 104 -
2002-09-24 at 13:59:36
Daddy Warbucks is the bald-headed, rough tough
adventurer millionaire of Harold Gray's excellent
Little Orphan Annie newspaper strip. Warbucks is a
kind of rugged individualist reflecting Gray's
right-leaning politics...but don't let that put you
off-though prone to moralising, Gray is a unique and
gifted cartoonist, that you chaps ought to
investigate...the strip is currently appearing in that
fine magazine Comics Revue.
As for Richie Rich, I have nothing good to say about
him. He's some creepy weedy little spoilt rich kid,
wearing some dumb velvet pantaloons and bow tie. By
rights all comics featuring the little milksop should
be shredded.
But neither of these rich folk have a string
collection to rival Mc Duck. He should be at the top
of the list.
Cheerio
VIC
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adventurer millionaire of Harold Gray's excellent
Little Orphan Annie newspaper strip. Warbucks is a
kind of rugged individualist reflecting Gray's
right-leaning politics...but don't let that put you
off-though prone to moralising, Gray is a unique and
gifted cartoonist, that you chaps ought to
investigate...the strip is currently appearing in that
fine magazine Comics Revue.
As for Richie Rich, I have nothing good to say about
him. He's some creepy weedy little spoilt rich kid,
wearing some dumb velvet pantaloons and bow tie. By
rights all comics featuring the little milksop should
be shredded.
But neither of these rich folk have a string
collection to rival Mc Duck. He should be at the top
of the list.
Cheerio
VIC
=====
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http://come.to/thefleacircus
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Halsten Aastebol
Who was Daddy Warbucks?
Message 105 -
2002-09-24 at 14:18:29
At 06:14 24.09.02 -0400, SRoweCanoe at aol.com wrote:
>In a message dated 9/24/2002 2:45:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>lgiver at postoffice.pacbell.net writes:
>
>
>>Daddy Warbucks is certainly not a new character. He's from
>>the old (1924-1979) newspaper comic strip "Little Orphan Annie".
>
>
>that strip is still running today, under the title"Annie"
>
> right, the Warbucks took on Annie real early in the strip (1925?)
>sr
It's possible that I'm real slow here, but does that mean that Little
Orphan Annie is the very same as in the musical "Annie"?
Regards
Halsten
>In a message dated 9/24/2002 2:45:01 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>lgiver at postoffice.pacbell.net writes:
>
>
>>Daddy Warbucks is certainly not a new character. He's from
>>the old (1924-1979) newspaper comic strip "Little Orphan Annie".
>
>
>that strip is still running today, under the title"Annie"
>
> right, the Warbucks took on Annie real early in the strip (1925?)
>sr
It's possible that I'm real slow here, but does that mean that Little
Orphan Annie is the very same as in the musical "Annie"?
Regards
Halsten