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LARRY:

> Thanks to Krinton Kyrimis

Um, "Kriton"!

> But Don's first story, "Son of the Sun (AR102)" was first published
> by Gladstone in US219 in 1987; it was a sequel to US26 "Prize of Pizarro"
> and was full of Barks references.

Full of Barks references it certainly was, but I don't think it was
a sequel to "The Prize of Pizarro" just because it took place in the
Andes. For the same reason, it's not even a sequel to "Lost in the Andes",
where there is an even stronger connection to that story, with that old
vicuna herder.

I believe that the same holds for most of the stories you mention, apart
from "Return to plain Awful". There are strong Barks references, but
the plot does not rely on them. E.g., just because uncle Scrooge's zoo
has a unicorn, this does not make "The Crocodile Collector" a sequel to
"Trail of the Unicorn", as the story revolves about something completely
different. A sequel would be, say, about finding a mate for the unicorn,
returning the unicorn home, taking the unicorn along on a treasure hunt
using a map found carved on its horn, or preventing Magica from kidnapping
the unicorn to grind its horn into a potion!

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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From: Kriton Kyrimis <kyrimis at cti.gr>
>>>DON said about "The Lost Charts of Columbus" (translated back to
English):
(blah blah blah)
>>>There may be an even older traveler who reached America from
Europe:

Oh, yes, there is no lack of historians claiming pre-Columbian European
visitors to America. And I wouldn't be surprised if most of them were not
completely true! These explorers (and windblown sailors) had no idea what
they had stumbled upon, and they had no reliable method for recording proof
of their trip or any reason to try.
In doing research for my latest story, I have come across entire books
written about another voyage to America that I did not even find in my
research while doing the "Lost Charts..." story. A Scot named William
Sinclair with an Italian navigator named Zeno and a small fleet seem to have
sailed to the same area of North America as Leif Erickson settled, following
the same route, and established their own "lost colonies" in Nova Scotia and
Rhode Island (I think it was -- I don't have my notes here) in 1398. There
is even a round stone lighthouse that has always been a landmark in Rhode
Island that was there when the first colonists arrived (but nobody made a
big deal about it at the time since they weren't especially interested in
such things). Apparently there is a detailed log of the entire voyage with
every detail of the trip and the colony recorded. The only reason it has
never been an accepted fact is that the existing log is a COPY of the
original, which is lost. But the people who believe in this story site the
fact that even though the book is written around 1500, it still contains
accurate details that were not known at that time of a part of America that
had yet to be "discovered". There are history books that nowadays tell of
this 1398 voyage as if it is accepted fact, and don't even bother to
question it.
I am a big fan of the "Age of Exploration" and pre-Columbian voyages to
these
shores -- but none of these tales takes any credit away from my boy Columbus
since, even if he wasn't first and even if he didn't know where he was, he
was the only guy who did it properly so that somebody noticed. And even
Columbus was almost forgotten and ignored until a resurgence in interest in
his life occurred about a century after he died. Even his trip to America
was
almost lost to history.

From: lgiver at postoffice.pacbell.net
Subject: Don Rosa's Sequels for Gladstone
>>>But Don's first story, "Son of the Sun (AR102)" was first published
by Gladstone in US219 in 1987; it was a sequel to US26 "Prize of Pizarro"
and was full of Barks references. It was a tremendous success, and
there were 5 other sequel stories (AR103, 106, 113, 125, and 130) in
the next 2 years during Gladstone's first run up through 1989.
These were "Nobody's Business" sequel to C&S155 "Some Heir over the
Rainbow";
"Cash Flow" sequel to US8 "Message from Mysterious Island";
"Last Sled to Dawson" sequel to "Back to the Klondike" and US59 "North of
the Yukon"; "Crockodile Collector" sequel to "Trail of the Unicorn"; and
"Return to Plain Awful" sequel to "Lost in the Andes". These were all
tremendous sequel stories, but I still like "Return to Xanadu" the best.

I see that my buddy Kriton has saved me some work and already explained your
error in perception. These were not "sequels"... they did not require
familiarity with the original stories you mention for the new story to
function. They merely contained references to earlier tales just for fun or
as an homage. The only story I did for Gladstone that was a sequel was
"Return to Plain Awful" and (as I've explained before) the editor allowed me
to do a previously-forbidden sequel in this case only because Another
Rainbow needed a comic to accompany the Barks litho that showed $crooge
entering Plain Awful (since he was not in Barks' "Lost in the Andes"). I was
told that many litho buyers were investors rather than Barks fans and had
never read "Lost in the Andes" and would have been quite puzzled by the
square chicken. It was not a self-explanatory scene of $crooge in the Money
Bin or like that.
And I assume we know that "Return to Xanadu" was done for Europe, not
Gladstone. The European editors *wanted* sequels... their readers had been
requesting them for years.

Michiel:

> I found one on the internet. It might be the same vase.
>
> http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/image?lookup=1993.01.0547

Amazing!

--Harry.

the link of the site, would be a good begin to enjoy :)
Fabio

DON:

> Oh, yes, there is no lack of historians claiming pre-Columbian European
> visitors to America.

Indeed, but who among these visitors was the *first* one? From what you
describe, William Sinclair is almost modern, while Jason goes back to the
age of myths. I guess what fascinated me most about this was the mention
of Colchis being in America, with the unexpected associations with Barks'
story. Another example of history being stranger than fiction!

I don't know enough to argue with Dimos' arguments, but I would like to
point out that place names from the Mycenaean era are under dispute. For
many places mentioned in the Iliad there are at least two places in
Greece that lay claim to be that place, so it is by no means certain
where most of these places were. I don't see why the same should not be
true for places mentioned in another story dating from Mycenaean times,
such as Colchis.

I will feel free, however, not to cut Dimos in on the loot when I claim my
inheritance as a direct descendant of Jason, though. [See our discussion
about Charlemagne!]

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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In reply to Don Rosa's comments on his early Gladstone stories:
I certainly never expected to be debating Don Rosa about
the definition of a sequel story. Don's definition of a sequel
requires that the reader have some familiarity with the original
story or the sequel won't make sense. Such as square chickens
being returned to Plain Awful, or how it came about that there
were a billion bottle caps in Tralla La. But as a reader, I didn't
have such a strict definition, and considered a story that followed
up and expanded on a Barks story to be a sequel. Surely
The "Last Sled to Dawson" was the first of several sequels to
"Back to the Klondike". Quoting Scrooge: "...pack your
bags, boys! We're going back to the Klondike....AGAIN!"
(page 10, panel 4 of Last Sled). So of course I considered it
a sequel; even the ducks knew they were in a sequel, and
Scrooge announced it to the readers.
Now I wouldn't try to make the case that every story
built on a Barks reference is a sequel. For example, I didn't
consider "Oolated Luck" to be a sequel to Barks' "Turkey
Trouble (WDC&S 75)" just because Donald Duck has a
can of oolated squiggs (page 4, panel 4) in that story. That
can was incidental to Barks' story, and the 2 stories have
nothing else in common. But I was very impressed that
such a tiny detail in Barks' story could inspire such a fun, new
story.
And thanks again, Don, for autographing my copy of
the German edition of Scrooge Life & Times, parts 1 & 2.
Best wishes, ---Larry Giver.

>From: "Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr."

>In "The Status Seeker" from 1963, Barks mentions a
>richman?s club in Duckburg. Can anyone who has the
>US-version of this story please tell if Barks names
>this club "The millionaires club" or "The billionaires
>club"?

Can't help you with this question, but it seems to me that it's a different
club.

>And by the way, is this club mentioned anywhere else
>before that story?

As far as I know the Billionaire's Club had its debut in 'The Christmas Cha
Cha' (1960), a story drawn but not written by Barks. Of course, Barks always
tried to improve on the scripts given to him, but we can't say for sure
whose creation it is, I guess. Except if it had been used by a different
artist before. ;-)

Frank

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