Jaakko:
> Well, I made myself look like an idiot
No, no... you'll have to do a lot of other things to make yourself look like
an idiot. 8-)
--Harry.
Author
Topic: 200209
(158 messages)
H.W.Fluks
Posting twice
Message 136 -
2002-09-26 at 18:02:04
H.W.Fluks
Dutch duck collectors
Message 137 -
2002-09-26 at 18:29:27
Age Middelkoop wrote:
> Are there any Dutch memebers that
> are willing and able to give specific info on a couple of
> dozen issues???
I've sent Age a private mail (in Dutch 8-) about our Disney comics database,
INDUCKS (http://inducks.org and http://bolderbast.inducks.org).
--Harry.
> Are there any Dutch memebers that
> are willing and able to give specific info on a couple of
> dozen issues???
I've sent Age a private mail (in Dutch 8-) about our Disney comics database,
INDUCKS (http://inducks.org and http://bolderbast.inducks.org).
--Harry.
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Magica De Spell - The Midas Touch (US 36) Ten-cent Valentine (WDC 258)
Message 138 -
2002-09-26 at 19:13:27
GERD SYLLWASSCHI to LARRY, 16-09-2002:
>> Why doesn't Donald recognize Magica (page 8, panel 4)?
>> Great question. I think the answer is simply that
>> Barks goofed---he forgot to put her into a disguise.
> "Goofed" may be a too strong word ... Magica had to be recognizable
> to Donald's nephews and Scrooge in the following scene, maybe Barks
> just couldn't spare the place for a quick-change stunt?!?
In the Dutch publication, Donald has been REMOVED from panel 8.4.
There, Magica just stands for a closed front door, telling to herself
that as soon as Donald opens the door, she will push the perfume under
his beak.
Panel 8.5 of the Dutch publication is the first where Donald is shown,
sniffing Magica's parfume.
I agree that the confrontation in panel 8.4, as shown in The Carl Barks
Library, raises questions. If Barks made an error, then I think that the
Dutch publication has properly and logically solved it.
> Did you notice that Magica's pose in the panel in question was
> clearly traced from page 2, panel 3 in US 36 "The Midas Touch"?
> The same is true for several other panels. One might suspect
> Barks was in quite a hurry when he did WDC 258.
Set 4, page 676 of The Carl Barks Library contains drawings of
Magica de Spell, and a little article titled "Models for a
Sorceress". It says that the drawings on lower half of that page
comprise a single model sheet that Barks made for his own reference,
tracing poses from the ink art for "The Midas Touch". He copied
three of these into his second Magica story "Ten-Cent Valentine"
(WDC 258).
I've compared the model drawings with "Ten-Cent Valentine".
These are the panels with similar poses in the model sheet:
7.7 (difference: mouth closed on model sheet)
8.4 (difference: Magica only holds her bag on model sheet)
8.5 (difference: only Magica's face is shown on model sheet)
I remember reading/hearing that such traced drawings were made by Barks
and/or other artists, in order to still have reference material in the
period between the submission of a story and the publication of a story.
Especially, this was needed at the time when it was difficult/expensive
to make xeroxes.
According to Barrier, "The Midas Touch" was submitted on April 17, 1961.
Publication date: December 1961 - February 1962
"Ten-Cent Valentine" was submitted, two months later, on June 14, 1961.
Publication date: March 1962
So, when making "Ten-Cent Valentine", Barks didn't have any comic books
as reference material to check or compare the looks of Magica. Maybe
that's why he made those model sheet drawings.
Summing this up: Barks did not trace poses from "The Midas Touch" for
"Ten-Cent Valentine". He traced *model sheets* based on "The Midas Touch".
Best wishes,
--- Daniel
"Stop! You're scrambling my digital rejiggerator!"
(which Barks story? :-))
>> Why doesn't Donald recognize Magica (page 8, panel 4)?
>> Great question. I think the answer is simply that
>> Barks goofed---he forgot to put her into a disguise.
> "Goofed" may be a too strong word ... Magica had to be recognizable
> to Donald's nephews and Scrooge in the following scene, maybe Barks
> just couldn't spare the place for a quick-change stunt?!?
In the Dutch publication, Donald has been REMOVED from panel 8.4.
There, Magica just stands for a closed front door, telling to herself
that as soon as Donald opens the door, she will push the perfume under
his beak.
Panel 8.5 of the Dutch publication is the first where Donald is shown,
sniffing Magica's parfume.
I agree that the confrontation in panel 8.4, as shown in The Carl Barks
Library, raises questions. If Barks made an error, then I think that the
Dutch publication has properly and logically solved it.
> Did you notice that Magica's pose in the panel in question was
> clearly traced from page 2, panel 3 in US 36 "The Midas Touch"?
> The same is true for several other panels. One might suspect
> Barks was in quite a hurry when he did WDC 258.
Set 4, page 676 of The Carl Barks Library contains drawings of
Magica de Spell, and a little article titled "Models for a
Sorceress". It says that the drawings on lower half of that page
comprise a single model sheet that Barks made for his own reference,
tracing poses from the ink art for "The Midas Touch". He copied
three of these into his second Magica story "Ten-Cent Valentine"
(WDC 258).
I've compared the model drawings with "Ten-Cent Valentine".
These are the panels with similar poses in the model sheet:
7.7 (difference: mouth closed on model sheet)
8.4 (difference: Magica only holds her bag on model sheet)
8.5 (difference: only Magica's face is shown on model sheet)
I remember reading/hearing that such traced drawings were made by Barks
and/or other artists, in order to still have reference material in the
period between the submission of a story and the publication of a story.
Especially, this was needed at the time when it was difficult/expensive
to make xeroxes.
According to Barrier, "The Midas Touch" was submitted on April 17, 1961.
Publication date: December 1961 - February 1962
"Ten-Cent Valentine" was submitted, two months later, on June 14, 1961.
Publication date: March 1962
So, when making "Ten-Cent Valentine", Barks didn't have any comic books
as reference material to check or compare the looks of Magica. Maybe
that's why he made those model sheet drawings.
Summing this up: Barks did not trace poses from "The Midas Touch" for
"Ten-Cent Valentine". He traced *model sheets* based on "The Midas Touch".
Best wishes,
--- Daniel
"Stop! You're scrambling my digital rejiggerator!"
(which Barks story? :-))
SRoweCanoe
Walt Disney comics and stories n. 4 complimentary issue
Message 139 -
2002-09-26 at 20:42:15
In a message dated Thu, 26 Sep 2002 14:00:03 +0200, ordi at tekpro.it writes:
> Is there anyone who can tell me somethingh about this comics
> Walt Disney comics and stories n. 4 complimentary issue
> Is it really so rare (overstreet says only five copy knows)?
Probably that rare. It was sent only to folks who's subscription to "Mickey Mouse Magazine" had expired, and if they were no longer interested in Mickey -- most were most likely thrown out.
(contents same as the regular wdc&s though)
Steven Rowe
SRoweCanoe at aol.com
> Is there anyone who can tell me somethingh about this comics
> Walt Disney comics and stories n. 4 complimentary issue
> Is it really so rare (overstreet says only five copy knows)?
Probably that rare. It was sent only to folks who's subscription to "Mickey Mouse Magazine" had expired, and if they were no longer interested in Mickey -- most were most likely thrown out.
(contents same as the regular wdc&s though)
Steven Rowe
SRoweCanoe at aol.com
Eugenio Miosi
Forget it
Message 140 -
2002-09-26 at 21:52:17
AAAHHH!!! Italy hasn't published "Forget it" yet. I need a long explanation of this story because I love Magica and Rosa's stories, so FORGET IT! Help me!
Cebarat
DCML digest, Vol 1 #1082 - 4 msgs
Message 141 -
2002-09-27 at 02:08:08
<<I must vigorously disagree with these prejudiced & unnecessary comments.
And
in addition these views are in a minority. The Richie Rich character has
appeared in one of the most successful comics of all time. He was
illustrated by very talented artists such as Ernie Colon & Warren Kremer.
The Harvey comics tended to appeal to younger children, not the 'mature'
audience that now is interested in Scrooge McDuck. Hence they tended to be
more light weight but nonetheless of high quality artwork. Please direct
such scathing abuse to more worthy targets.>>
Hear, hear. Richie had a great career and even appeared in more than his
share of "Scrooge-like" adventures. I write a column on Richie for the
fanzine The Harveyville Fun Times! (THFT) and have been writing about
Richie's adventurous past for a number of years. Barks-level it wasn't, but
it was certainly worthy of respect.
(BTW, who's "Melvin Martian"?)
Chris Barat
And
in addition these views are in a minority. The Richie Rich character has
appeared in one of the most successful comics of all time. He was
illustrated by very talented artists such as Ernie Colon & Warren Kremer.
The Harvey comics tended to appeal to younger children, not the 'mature'
audience that now is interested in Scrooge McDuck. Hence they tended to be
more light weight but nonetheless of high quality artwork. Please direct
such scathing abuse to more worthy targets.>>
Hear, hear. Richie had a great career and even appeared in more than his
share of "Scrooge-like" adventures. I write a column on Richie for the
fanzine The Harveyville Fun Times! (THFT) and have been writing about
Richie's adventurous past for a number of years. Barks-level it wasn't, but
it was certainly worthy of respect.
(BTW, who's "Melvin Martian"?)
Chris Barat
David Dávila
New Group of Comics in spanish
Message 142 -
2002-09-27 at 09:05:35
Hello everybody :
I have opened a new Group to share scans but in spanish language. I know
that English is an universal language, but many would want to read comics in
our native language. And since I have an extensive collection of comics in
this language, desire to share them with all those interested ones.
The address is: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicsdisney/
So long
DAVID
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I have opened a new Group to share scans but in spanish language. I know
that English is an universal language, but many would want to read comics in
our native language. And since I have an extensive collection of comics in
this language, desire to share them with all those interested ones.
The address is: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/comicsdisney/
So long
DAVID
_________________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Informaci?n de Estados Unidos y Am?rica Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias.
Vis?tanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com
Vic Pratt
Who Is Melvin Martian?
Message 143 -
2002-09-27 at 13:12:05
Chris...can't say that I share your appreciation of
Richie Rich...but as for Melvin Martian, that was a
mistake on my part...what I meant to type was "Melvin
Monster", a brilliant but short lived Dell Comic by
the great John Stanley....
Best Wishes
VIC
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Richie Rich...but as for Melvin Martian, that was a
mistake on my part...what I meant to type was "Melvin
Monster", a brilliant but short lived Dell Comic by
the great John Stanley....
Best Wishes
VIC
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Dan Shane
Background duck characters
Message 144 -
2002-09-27 at 14:49:37
KRITON SCRIBBLED:
> I guess that being the only ducks in Duckburg makes them stand out as
> special, which I suppose they are. For some reason, a town of mostly
> dog-faced people, with only a few ducks, reminds me of Monty Python's
> "bicycle repairman" sketch! [For those who haven't seen it, it was
> about a town where everybody looked like superman, except for the hero,
> an ordinary bicycle repairman.]
"Oh, Bicycle Repairman! Thank goodness you've come!"
> I guess that being the only ducks in Duckburg makes them stand out as
> special, which I suppose they are. For some reason, a town of mostly
> dog-faced people, with only a few ducks, reminds me of Monty Python's
> "bicycle repairman" sketch! [For those who haven't seen it, it was
> about a town where everybody looked like superman, except for the hero,
> an ordinary bicycle repairman.]
"Oh, Bicycle Repairman! Thank goodness you've come!"
Olivier
Rejiggerrator quiz
Message 145 -
2002-09-27 at 19:30:18
Hi everyone!
And Hi again to Daniel:
>> "Stop! You're scrambling my digital rejiggerator!"
>> (which Barks story? :-))
I missed your quizes.
But what a comeback: I'm at a loss here. I haven't had much time to search my brain, but haven't
found so far. How about a hint?
I'll try and think about it again. Let's see... A machine. Gyro or maybe another inventor-- but
maybe the inventor doesn't appear, and it's someone else saying this. Someone touches
(accidentally?) the machine, and this probably creates difficulty.
:\
Best wishes,
Olivier
And Hi again to Daniel:
>> "Stop! You're scrambling my digital rejiggerator!"
>> (which Barks story? :-))
I missed your quizes.
But what a comeback: I'm at a loss here. I haven't had much time to search my brain, but haven't
found so far. How about a hint?
I'll try and think about it again. Let's see... A machine. Gyro or maybe another inventor-- but
maybe the inventor doesn't appear, and it's someone else saying this. Someone touches
(accidentally?) the machine, and this probably creates difficulty.
:\
Best wishes,
Olivier
Eugenio Miosi
I don't need the explanation of "Forget it". Italy' ll publish it in November
Message 146 -
2002-09-28 at 13:32:00
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Rejiggerator quiz
Message 147 -
2002-09-28 at 19:44:33
OLIVIER to me, 27-09-2002:
>> "Stop! You're scrambling my digital rejiggerator!"
>> (which Barks story? :-))
> I missed your quizes.
I'll be back. It might take some months, though.
> But what a comeback: I'm at a loss here. I haven't had
> much time to search my brain, but haven't found so far.
> How about a hint?
I'll do your thinking for you! RELAX, man! RELAX!
(Don't take this personal. It's the hint you asked for.) :-)
> I'll try and think about it again. Let's see... A machine.
Right. The comment comes from a machine.
> Gyro
Partly right. The comment is not by Gyro, but he does appear in
the story.
> or maybe another inventor--
The machine is made by another inventor, more or less.
> but maybe the inventor doesn't appear,
Wrong.
> Someone touches (accidentally?) the machine, and this probably
> creates difficulty.
> :\
The machine is touched indeed, but not accidentally!
Best wishes and succes with your quest, :-)
--- Daniel
>> "Stop! You're scrambling my digital rejiggerator!"
>> (which Barks story? :-))
> I missed your quizes.
I'll be back. It might take some months, though.
> But what a comeback: I'm at a loss here. I haven't had
> much time to search my brain, but haven't found so far.
> How about a hint?
I'll do your thinking for you! RELAX, man! RELAX!
(Don't take this personal. It's the hint you asked for.) :-)
> I'll try and think about it again. Let's see... A machine.
Right. The comment comes from a machine.
> Gyro
Partly right. The comment is not by Gyro, but he does appear in
the story.
> or maybe another inventor--
The machine is made by another inventor, more or less.
> but maybe the inventor doesn't appear,
Wrong.
> Someone touches (accidentally?) the machine, and this probably
> creates difficulty.
> :\
The machine is touched indeed, but not accidentally!
Best wishes and succes with your quest, :-)
--- Daniel
Arne Voigtmann
German Don Rosa Album No. 27
Message 148 -
2002-09-28 at 23:23:00
This week the 27th (well, to be exact it's the 28th because there
exists a No. 0) Don Rosa Album has been published in Germany,
including the following:
* A Little Something Special
* Beagle Boys vs. Money Bin
* the Money Bin blueprints - or blackprints :) - which have
fortunately not been translated
* Forget it!
* Leaky Luck (first publication of that story in Germany)
In contrast to the 26th Album there were no covers and sketches in it
- and surprisingly even the obligatory commentaries by Don Rosa are
missing (maybe Don knows why. Didn't Ehapa ask you to comment these
stories for the new album, or didn't you have time to do it?)
Despite of the missing extras the new album represents some very good
stories and after the next one Don Rosa's Disney Comics will have been nearly
completely published in this series.
Arne.
exists a No. 0) Don Rosa Album has been published in Germany,
including the following:
* A Little Something Special
* Beagle Boys vs. Money Bin
* the Money Bin blueprints - or blackprints :) - which have
fortunately not been translated
* Forget it!
* Leaky Luck (first publication of that story in Germany)
In contrast to the 26th Album there were no covers and sketches in it
- and surprisingly even the obligatory commentaries by Don Rosa are
missing (maybe Don knows why. Didn't Ehapa ask you to comment these
stories for the new album, or didn't you have time to do it?)
Despite of the missing extras the new album represents some very good
stories and after the next one Don Rosa's Disney Comics will have been nearly
completely published in this series.
Arne.
Fabio Blanco
What a fanzine can contain?
Message 149 -
2002-09-29 at 04:08:04
HelpThat the question. I have some themes about I would like publish a fanzine --pulps, Doc Savage partycularly, and Disney Comics-- but is a fanzine related to Barks, Rosa and other Duck artists and duck art what I am thinking about just now.
Well, I know some of you have experience on fanzines, so I would like know about what I can publish and what no in a Disney comics fanzine. Of course will be a very limited run of issues...
I'll thank you any word about the matter...
Fabio
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
Well, I know some of you have experience on fanzines, so I would like know about what I can publish and what no in a Disney comics fanzine. Of course will be a very limited run of issues...
I'll thank you any word about the matter...
Fabio
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
Merlin Haas
Daniel's quiz
Message 150 -
2002-09-29 at 16:57:59
Daniel van Eijmeren wrote
>
>>> "Stop! You're scrambling my digital rejiggerator!"
>>> (which Barks story? :-))
>
>> I missed your quizes.
>
>I'll be back. It might take some months, though.
>
>> But what a comeback: I'm at a loss here. I haven't had
>> much time to search my brain, but haven't found so far.
>> How about a hint?
>
>I'll do your thinking for you! RELAX, man! RELAX!
>
I needed this hint. It's from "Monsterville" from Gyro
Gearloose Four Color 1184 (1961). Gyro invents machines that do all
the work for everyone in Duckburg, with unexpected results. His
Helper invents a robot that will do Gyro's work for him, He's the one
who says the quotes.
Only the art is by Barks. (Thanks to Inducks for the issue number)
best -- Merlin Haas
>
>>> "Stop! You're scrambling my digital rejiggerator!"
>>> (which Barks story? :-))
>
>> I missed your quizes.
>
>I'll be back. It might take some months, though.
>
>> But what a comeback: I'm at a loss here. I haven't had
>> much time to search my brain, but haven't found so far.
>> How about a hint?
>
>I'll do your thinking for you! RELAX, man! RELAX!
>
I needed this hint. It's from "Monsterville" from Gyro
Gearloose Four Color 1184 (1961). Gyro invents machines that do all
the work for everyone in Duckburg, with unexpected results. His
Helper invents a robot that will do Gyro's work for him, He's the one
who says the quotes.
Only the art is by Barks. (Thanks to Inducks for the issue number)
best -- Merlin Haas