Vidar Svendsen <vidar-svendsen at c2i.net> wrote:
>
> Sigvald:
> >Sorry for this OT-mail, but lately I have been bombarded
> >with American spam in both my mail-adresses. Since there
>
> sigh..... I thought you had agreed to send this
> kind of mail to Per.....
Well, that was about virus-mails, but OK in the future I
will treat virus-mails and spam-mails the exact same way.
If I ever again find any reason to believe that someone
who misuses my mail-address(es) have found the address(es)
at DCML I will notify so via private e-mail only!
Sigvald :-)
Author
Topic: 200212
(225 messages)
Sigvald
DCML is misused by spam-"terrorists"?
Message 61 -
2002-12-07 at 21:50:08
Sigvald
About "correct" comics
Message 62 -
2002-12-07 at 22:21:18
"The Fenske's" <dbfenske at telus.net> wrote:
> What do you mean by "correct?" Surely you don't
> mean politically correct, as that just doesn't fit.
No I mean that it's *in* among "cool" people. These
people can say "Donald Duck is for kids", often without
being criticized for it. If someone comes up with some
critics against their beloved comics it's definately
criticized - even at DCML (just remember what happened
to me a few days ago).
> Calvin & Hobbes is popular because it's both very funny
> (not at all a bad thing), and it makes observations about
> us (life, family, friendship, interactions with peers,
> the world of the imagination, etc.) that are both poignant
> and accurate.
These qualities may fit well for a simple news paper strip,
but IMO it looks a bit strange in big hard cover books.
> I have a large collection of Disney comics from the
> 60's, when I was young. Many contain great Barks
> stories, but there are a lot of rather juvenile (and
> totally shallow as far as reflections on life are
> concerned)
Of course they are - real quality comics should be
concerned about entertaining not about reflecting.
Well of course reflections itselves doesn't make a
comics bad, but a comics can IMO *only* be concerned
as good if it's entertaining - just like as it is
with movies.
>>> For that matter, I'm a big fan of Ernie, too, and
>>> Beetle Bailey often gets a laugh out of me as well...
>>
>> Exactly!!! These comics seems to be about one thing
>> - humor. Unfortunately some people seems to believe
>> that short humor gags is all that comics should be
>> concerned about.
>
> But a comic like Calvin & Hobbes, or Bloom County, is
> about so much more. Sure, the humor is there, thankfully,
> but those comics also contain a lot of insight, political
> commentary, etc.
So what? As stated above comics should IMO first be concerned
about entertaining, not act like "60 minutes".
>> Well, I am different, I prefer long comics stories
>> with an intelligent plot. So I very seldom read
>> modern humor gags comics.
>
> Well, you'll only get those from Rosa, some Barks, Gottredson,
> or the better super-hero stories (of which there are a few that
> are worthy of consideration).
I don't read such super-hero stuff (well exept from Captain
Kentucky).
> Maybe the situation is better where you live, however....
Probably, we still have some European quality comics like
Asterix, Luck Luke and Blueberry around here.
Sigvald :-)
> What do you mean by "correct?" Surely you don't
> mean politically correct, as that just doesn't fit.
No I mean that it's *in* among "cool" people. These
people can say "Donald Duck is for kids", often without
being criticized for it. If someone comes up with some
critics against their beloved comics it's definately
criticized - even at DCML (just remember what happened
to me a few days ago).
> Calvin & Hobbes is popular because it's both very funny
> (not at all a bad thing), and it makes observations about
> us (life, family, friendship, interactions with peers,
> the world of the imagination, etc.) that are both poignant
> and accurate.
These qualities may fit well for a simple news paper strip,
but IMO it looks a bit strange in big hard cover books.
> I have a large collection of Disney comics from the
> 60's, when I was young. Many contain great Barks
> stories, but there are a lot of rather juvenile (and
> totally shallow as far as reflections on life are
> concerned)
Of course they are - real quality comics should be
concerned about entertaining not about reflecting.
Well of course reflections itselves doesn't make a
comics bad, but a comics can IMO *only* be concerned
as good if it's entertaining - just like as it is
with movies.
>>> For that matter, I'm a big fan of Ernie, too, and
>>> Beetle Bailey often gets a laugh out of me as well...
>>
>> Exactly!!! These comics seems to be about one thing
>> - humor. Unfortunately some people seems to believe
>> that short humor gags is all that comics should be
>> concerned about.
>
> But a comic like Calvin & Hobbes, or Bloom County, is
> about so much more. Sure, the humor is there, thankfully,
> but those comics also contain a lot of insight, political
> commentary, etc.
So what? As stated above comics should IMO first be concerned
about entertaining, not act like "60 minutes".
>> Well, I am different, I prefer long comics stories
>> with an intelligent plot. So I very seldom read
>> modern humor gags comics.
>
> Well, you'll only get those from Rosa, some Barks, Gottredson,
> or the better super-hero stories (of which there are a few that
> are worthy of consideration).
I don't read such super-hero stuff (well exept from Captain
Kentucky).
> Maybe the situation is better where you live, however....
Probably, we still have some European quality comics like
Asterix, Luck Luke and Blueberry around here.
Sigvald :-)
Sigvald
Today's best Mickey stories
Message 63 -
2002-12-07 at 22:37:45
Hi all!
IMO the stories where Mickey and Goofy travels trough time
with a time machine located in the basement of the Mouston
Museum is the best Mickey stories which are made today. I
also think that the two professors Marlin and Zapotec are
very interesting characters. I therefore think that these
stories should be collected in their own books.
I also think that I.N.D.U.C.K.S. / COA should have these
storied listed by English titles instead of "obscure"
Italian tittles (as with Barks/Rosa) to make it possible
also for non-Italians to fully understand and use that data.
Sigvald :-)
IMO the stories where Mickey and Goofy travels trough time
with a time machine located in the basement of the Mouston
Museum is the best Mickey stories which are made today. I
also think that the two professors Marlin and Zapotec are
very interesting characters. I therefore think that these
stories should be collected in their own books.
I also think that I.N.D.U.C.K.S. / COA should have these
storied listed by English titles instead of "obscure"
Italian tittles (as with Barks/Rosa) to make it possible
also for non-Italians to fully understand and use that data.
Sigvald :-)
Rob Klein
Spam Filter
Message 64 -
2002-12-07 at 23:10:32
Hi everyone. Belated best holiday wishes to our Moslem members for Ramadan and
Eyid al Fitr.
Sorry to be off topic again, but some good has actually occurred from Sigvald's
last computer-related question. Thanks to Georges Helm, I now know why my own
messages have been filtered out of several members' boxes (as SPAM)! My
address <bi442 at lafn.org> contains more numbers than letters in my "member name"
portion. Georges suggests adding my name to list of "friends"(e.g. friendly
message senders), so that they will not be filtered. Thanks, for your
toleration of my off-topic mails.
Holiday season greetings to our Christian, Jewish and Moslem friends.
Rob
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Eyid al Fitr.
Sorry to be off topic again, but some good has actually occurred from Sigvald's
last computer-related question. Thanks to Georges Helm, I now know why my own
messages have been filtered out of several members' boxes (as SPAM)! My
address <bi442 at lafn.org> contains more numbers than letters in my "member name"
portion. Georges suggests adding my name to list of "friends"(e.g. friendly
message senders), so that they will not be filtered. Thanks, for your
toleration of my off-topic mails.
Holiday season greetings to our Christian, Jewish and Moslem friends.
Rob
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Søren Krarup Olesen
Today's best Mickey stories
Message 65 -
2002-12-07 at 23:39:10
SIGVALD :-):
> I also think that I.N.D.U.C.K.S. / COA should have these storied
> listed by English titles instead of "obscure" Italian tittles (as
> with Barks/Rosa) [...]
What English titles are you talking about, Sigvald? Would you like me to
translate every Fellini film title into English or Norwegian for that
matter. I don't think so. And besides, I don't find original titles
obscure--on the contrary.
Only Egmont stories (among those, most of Don's) stories have English
titles.
S?ren
> I also think that I.N.D.U.C.K.S. / COA should have these storied
> listed by English titles instead of "obscure" Italian tittles (as
> with Barks/Rosa) [...]
What English titles are you talking about, Sigvald? Would you like me to
translate every Fellini film title into English or Norwegian for that
matter. I don't think so. And besides, I don't find original titles
obscure--on the contrary.
Only Egmont stories (among those, most of Don's) stories have English
titles.
S?ren
Sigvald
Today's best Mickey stories
Message 66 -
2002-12-08 at 00:14:26
<raptus at stofanet.dk> wrote:
>
>> I also think that I.N.D.U.C.K.S. / COA should have these storied
>> listed by English titles instead of "obscure" Italian tittles (as
>> with Barks/Rosa) [...]
> I don't think so. And besides, I don't find original titles
> obscure--on the contrary.
>
> Only Egmont stories (among those, most of Don's) stories have
> English titles.
That's not enirely correct, also Dell's and Gladstone's
stories have English titles.
Sigvald :-)
>
>> I also think that I.N.D.U.C.K.S. / COA should have these storied
>> listed by English titles instead of "obscure" Italian tittles (as
>> with Barks/Rosa) [...]
> I don't think so. And besides, I don't find original titles
> obscure--on the contrary.
>
> Only Egmont stories (among those, most of Don's) stories have
> English titles.
That's not enirely correct, also Dell's and Gladstone's
stories have English titles.
Sigvald :-)
Stefan Persson
Today's best Mickey stories
Message 67 -
2002-12-08 at 02:54:24
----- Original Message -----
From: <sigvald at duckburg.dk>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: den 7 december 2002 23:14
Subject: Re: Today's best Mickey stories
> > Only Egmont stories (among those, most of Don's) stories have
> > English titles.
>
> That's not enirely correct, also Dell's and Gladstone's
> stories have English titles.
Correction: Only Egmont stories, stories made for any publisher in any
English-speaking country and some occasional story made for any other
publisher have English titles. In the latter case, the English title is
usually not the original title, but a title used in a translation.
Stefan
From: <sigvald at duckburg.dk>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: den 7 december 2002 23:14
Subject: Re: Today's best Mickey stories
> > Only Egmont stories (among those, most of Don's) stories have
> > English titles.
>
> That's not enirely correct, also Dell's and Gladstone's
> stories have English titles.
Correction: Only Egmont stories, stories made for any publisher in any
English-speaking country and some occasional story made for any other
publisher have English titles. In the latter case, the English title is
usually not the original title, but a title used in a translation.
Stefan
Stefan Persson
Today's best Mickey stories
Message 68 -
2002-12-08 at 02:55:37
----- Original Message -----
From: <sigvald at duckburg.dk>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: den 7 december 2002 21:37
Subject: Today's best Mickey stories
> IMO the stories where Mickey and Goofy travels trough time
> with a time machine located in the basement of the Mouston
> Museum is the best Mickey stories which are made today. I
> also think that the two professors Marlin and Zapotec are
> very interesting characters. I therefore think that these
> stories should be collected in their own books.
Are they still being produced? I haven't seen any new time machine story for
years...
Stefan
From: <sigvald at duckburg.dk>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: den 7 december 2002 21:37
Subject: Today's best Mickey stories
> IMO the stories where Mickey and Goofy travels trough time
> with a time machine located in the basement of the Mouston
> Museum is the best Mickey stories which are made today. I
> also think that the two professors Marlin and Zapotec are
> very interesting characters. I therefore think that these
> stories should be collected in their own books.
Are they still being produced? I haven't seen any new time machine story for
years...
Stefan
Wil
NorthWest Territory by Prima and Don Rosa Life/Times series
Message 69 -
2002-12-08 at 03:21:49
Story code on Inducks is D 7146.
I have the complete original artwork for this story, and am looking for
the comic version of this. I am in the US, and would prefer to find the
comic in English (not sure if it was published in English, but the
dialogue on the artwork is in English).
Also - where would one find English versions of the Life and Times
series by Don Rosa (b) issues which were not printed in the US and how
many are there?
thanks very much
Wilson Bernhardt
I have the complete original artwork for this story, and am looking for
the comic version of this. I am in the US, and would prefer to find the
comic in English (not sure if it was published in English, but the
dialogue on the artwork is in English).
Also - where would one find English versions of the Life and Times
series by Don Rosa (b) issues which were not printed in the US and how
many are there?
thanks very much
Wilson Bernhardt
Cord Wiljes
Don Rosa Life/Times series
Message 70 -
2002-12-08 at 21:34:36
Wilson Bernhardt wrote:
> Also - where would one find English versions of the Life and Times
> series by Don Rosa (b) issues which were not printed in the US and how
> many are there?
You can find the complete German series of Don Rosa's Duck stories (27
Albums so far) here:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N2F3223B2
> Also - where would one find English versions of the Life and Times
> series by Don Rosa (b) issues which were not printed in the US and how
> many are there?
You can find the complete German series of Don Rosa's Duck stories (27
Albums so far) here:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?N2F3223B2
Rich Bellacera
HooZoo, just playing around
Message 71 -
2002-12-08 at 22:51:28
I was working on cleaning up some of the new images I'm preparing for the
relaunch of the HooZoo (see I am working on it, as I have time), and I was
playing with the idea of a new banner. This is just preliminary, and
probably
waaaaaaay overboard, but I thought it might be fun for you guys & gals to
see, if just to see how good your knowledge of obscure recurring Disney
characters is. I'm sure I'll come ups with something simpler later. There
are over 80 characters depicted.
You can find it at this link:
http://users.cwnet.com/xephyr/images/HooZooBanner.gif
Don't mind Webby stepping on Huey's foot, though. :-)
-Rich Bellacera
relaunch of the HooZoo (see I am working on it, as I have time), and I was
playing with the idea of a new banner. This is just preliminary, and
probably
waaaaaaay overboard, but I thought it might be fun for you guys & gals to
see, if just to see how good your knowledge of obscure recurring Disney
characters is. I'm sure I'll come ups with something simpler later. There
are over 80 characters depicted.
You can find it at this link:
http://users.cwnet.com/xephyr/images/HooZooBanner.gif
Don't mind Webby stepping on Huey's foot, though. :-)
-Rich Bellacera
Olivier
HooZoo, just playing around
Message 72 -
2002-12-08 at 23:18:45
Hi everyone!
>>>but I thought it might be fun for you guys & gals to see, if just to see how good
>>>your knowledge of obscure recurring Disney characters is.
That's a very nice title banner, Rich! :)
There *are* some characters I don't know. You know what would be nice? Map this image, so that you
can click on a character and go to his HooZoo page. ;)
Best wishes,
Olivier
>>>but I thought it might be fun for you guys & gals to see, if just to see how good
>>>your knowledge of obscure recurring Disney characters is.
That's a very nice title banner, Rich! :)
There *are* some characters I don't know. You know what would be nice? Map this image, so that you
can click on a character and go to his HooZoo page. ;)
Best wishes,
Olivier
Rob Klein
Hoozoo Banner
Message 73 -
2002-12-09 at 00:16:37
Thanks, Rich, for making that fabulous banner. I recognise several of the
figure poses. Did you draw the banner yourself, copying some poses? Or, did
you scan all the figures, then manipulate them around, cutting, pasting and
editing lines? How did you make it?
I like Olivier's idea for character identification. A few of us hard-core
comic book fans are not completely knowledgeable of all the Disney animation
characters. Thanks for all the good work on your graphics and HOOZOO.
As there was NO ENGLISH LANGUAGE PRINTING of US epic D7146, Wil Bernhardt has
decided he would like the original Danish printing in Anders And Extra Nr. 12
from 1984. I hope one of our Danish members can find him a copy.
Rob
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figure poses. Did you draw the banner yourself, copying some poses? Or, did
you scan all the figures, then manipulate them around, cutting, pasting and
editing lines? How did you make it?
I like Olivier's idea for character identification. A few of us hard-core
comic book fans are not completely knowledgeable of all the Disney animation
characters. Thanks for all the good work on your graphics and HOOZOO.
As there was NO ENGLISH LANGUAGE PRINTING of US epic D7146, Wil Bernhardt has
decided he would like the original Danish printing in Anders And Extra Nr. 12
from 1984. I hope one of our Danish members can find him a copy.
Rob
Klein
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Sigvald
Duckburg/Mouston
Message 74 -
2002-12-09 at 01:37:20
Hei, all!
As you probably know, in the US they distinguish between
Donald's home "Duckburg" and Mickey's home "Mouston". Do
any of you know if that's the situation in any European
languages as well?
Sigvald :-)
As you probably know, in the US they distinguish between
Donald's home "Duckburg" and Mickey's home "Mouston". Do
any of you know if that's the situation in any European
languages as well?
Sigvald :-)
Stefan Persson
Duckburg/Mouston
Message 75 -
2002-12-09 at 09:18:14
>From: sigvald at duckburg.dk
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Duckburg/Mouston
>Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 00:37:20 +0100 (CET)
>
>Hei, all!
>
>As you probably know, in the US they distinguish between
>Donald's home "Duckburg" and Mickey's home "Mouston". Do
>any of you know if that's the situation in any European
>languages as well?
Isn't that the way it is in Italy?
Stefan
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>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Duckburg/Mouston
>Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 00:37:20 +0100 (CET)
>
>Hei, all!
>
>As you probably know, in the US they distinguish between
>Donald's home "Duckburg" and Mickey's home "Mouston". Do
>any of you know if that's the situation in any European
>languages as well?
Isn't that the way it is in Italy?
Stefan
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